00:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arimja (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 573 points, T:1790, zombified by an orc zombie, while fainted from lack of food
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06:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 323 points, T:1442, killed by a werejackal
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07:27 <aosdict> about to take on kathryn wish me luck
07:29 <amateurhour> use a precious wish on giving you luck? I need to wish for an artifact sorry
07:30 <aosdict> crap I forgot to put on alchemy smock
07:30 <aosdict> noped out of there
07:35 <aosdict> ok there is some weirdness here I was kinda expecting
07:36 <aosdict> wait, is it intended that if I make Bourbon and Ozzy submit, and then continue to attack Kathryn, they'll re-hostilify themselves?
07:36 <amateurhour> I feel like it's not, but can't remember 
07:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:34904
07:37 <amateurhour> \o/
07:38 <aosdict> the weirdness: "Your weapon poisons Bourbon! The poison was deadly... Bourbon submits and is no longer hostile"
07:38 <aosdict> I assume this would be the same for Kathryn
07:38 <aosdict> and probably other instakill messages
07:41 <mobileuser> the dogs revive immediately
07:47 <aosdict> confirmed in wizmode that it happens for different messages and happens to Kathryn
07:58 <K2> yes its intended the dogs will become hostile again if you continue to attack Kathryn
07:59 <aosdict> if they come back as good as new, I don't see why anyone should attack them at all
08:03 <mobileuser> it's often more practical to just teleport them away
08:03 <K2> i'm open to suggestions to make it better
08:03 <K2> outright killing them is not an option
08:06 <aosdict> mobileuser: heh didn't even think of that... I haven't found telewand yet
08:07 <aosdict> all that prep and the alchemy smock and all, and not ONE acid blast >:(
08:10 * K2 changes kathryn spell list to only use acid blast
08:12 <aosdict> I'd be down for that
08:12 <aosdict> alchemy smock = ez pz
08:14 <amateurhour> still can't believe you stole the ice queen branch from slex
08:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:73540
08:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:73545
08:15 <K2> ikr?
08:15 <K2> horrible
08:16 <rebatela> chromatic scales. wish i could wear 
08:16 <rebatela> going to play a non-monk next i thin k
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08:22 <mobileuser> you had the eye AND the scales drop, wow
08:23 <rebatela> what are the odds on the scales?
08:24 <rebatela> i really like the new variety in gehennom k2. box o chocolates 
08:25 <rebatela> easy to say that since i survived lol 
08:26 <K2> 1 in 3
08:26 <mobileuser> rebatela same as any scales drop, I think one third
08:26 <mobileuser> confirmed :-)
08:26 <rebatela> i got hit for some serious damage. actually retreated and put on lifesaving !
08:27 <rebatela> boulder fort doesn't work obviously 
08:27 <mobileuser> I used boulder fort + aklys in a previous game
08:27 <rebatela> i think i died early in this game actually and was wearing unid'd lifesaving 
08:27 <rebatela> oh nice mobileuser
08:28 <mobileuser> it helps if you have probing to check progress
08:28 <rebatela> yeah, i just took my chances and meleed, went up the stairs and healed once, put on lifesaving and went back for more, then yeenoghu showed up 
08:29 <mobileuser> yeah Tiamad is tough
08:29 <mobileuser> has all the resistances, attack spells do nothing
08:32 <rebatela> yeah at first i was psyched to not see demo on that level... that changed pretty quickly 
08:34 <mobileuser> that new Gra (?) demon is also pretty bad
08:34 <mobileuser> can't find it on the wiki
08:35 <K2> i havent added info about new monsters on the wiki yet (0.7)
08:35 <mobileuser> I don't know all the new names by heart yet :-)
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08:51 <rebatela> Graz'zt
08:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:30217
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09:15 <mobileuser> yes Graz'zt, that's the one
09:16 <amateurhour> gratz
09:54 <aosdict> so the ice queen palace contains the BotH in one of the crystal chests?
09:54 <aosdict> that's great, I don't have magical opening...
10:09 <VaderFLAG> It's in the one behind the bars
10:09 <VaderFLAG> I often have to resort to using bell of opening on them
10:14 <mobileuser> the VotD has a wand of opening
10:14 <mobileuser> bottom left, secret room 
10:17 <aosdict> I know but it sucks to have to go through the valley (not yet done for me) to get pre-castle rewards
10:18 <aosdict> I suppose I could hoof it back to my stash and get the bell. I would have just brought it along if I knew there were crystal chests to open
10:18 <aosdict> also I suppose I need acid to get through the iron bars? wand of striking didn't work
10:19 <mobileuser> yes, acid, there are potions of acid in one of the crystal chests
10:20 <mobileuser> and apples (hint, hint)
10:21 <aosdict> everyone tells me the pegasi are wimps who die quickly
10:23 <K2> you were fed false info
10:24 <mobileuser> I would agree
10:24 <K2> my last evilhack game I got my pegasus to the sanctury and back out part way through the ascrun
10:25 <K2> barding goes a long way
10:25 <VaderFLAG> I usually move all the chests together on the left then use one bell charge for all 5, and then realize I forgot to bless the bell then curse at myself for a few minutes
10:25 <aosdict> wait what does blessing it do
10:25 <VaderFLAG> Only does magical opening if blessed
10:25 <amateurhour> this is vanilla I think
10:25 <VaderFLAG> Ya think so
10:26 <K2> you didnt know about uncursed vs blessed BoO?
10:26 <amateurhour> I use it to open drawbridges sometimes
10:26 <mobileuser> mistake
10:26 <K2> vanilla behavior
10:26 <mobileuser> destroy all drawbridges :-)
10:26 <VaderFLAG> DESTROY ALL DRAWBRIDGES
10:26 <amateurhour> YANI: Bell of [spell]
10:26 <amateurhour> new base item for bell of opening, holds a random spell type
10:28 <aosdict> I don't want to rock any boats but I think the security on the bag of the hesperides might be a tad too high
10:29 <amateurhour> because it's in a crystal chest?
10:29 <aosdict> and behind iron bars
10:29 <aosdict> you need two specific items to get it out, plus y'know completing the branch
10:29 <amateurhour> teleport it and use object detection maybe? I didn't realise it was behind the bars
10:30 <K2> aosdict - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2550/source
10:30 <aosdict> whinge whinge whinge
10:30 <K2> i could replace the iron bars and crystal chests with beholders and vorpal jabberwocks
10:30 <K2> yeah sounds good, great idea aosdict
10:36 <aosdict> do ALL wands turn to dust when zapped at 0 charges? the wiki doesn't mention this
10:38 <K2> they can. there's a chance you'll wrest one more charge out of them based on BUC status
10:38 <mobileuser> including the WoW :-(
10:38 <K2> yup
10:38 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9f53846407fc5d9169e791053489893842e879b7
10:39 <K2> from unnethack i believe
10:40 <amateurhour> EPI: zapping an item which isn't a wand, even by accident, causing it to turn to dust
10:40 <aosdict> so if I'm reading it right, 4/5 chance of wresting a blessed wand, 5/6 uncursed, 6/7 cursed?
10:40 <K2> 1/5 1/6 1/7
10:41 <aosdict> no
10:41 <aosdict> you have it as zap_it = rn2(prob)
10:41 <K2> ah yeah
10:41 <mobileuser> huh?
10:41 <aosdict> I dunno if anything breaks if values > 1 are returned from zappable()
10:41 <K2> thats messed up
10:41 <K2> rn2 should have been !rn2
10:42 <aosdict> I was going to say, such high odds of wresting make it really disincentivized to zap unknown wands :)
10:42 <mobileuser> are you telling me a cursed WoW has a better chance?
10:42 <K2> yup i forgot a !
10:42 <mobileuser> interesting...
10:42 <amateurhour> wow
10:42 <mobileuser> no updates in june! :-)
10:42 <K2> ^ flase hah
10:43 <K2> false even
10:43 <mobileuser> updates only for severe bugs?
10:44 <amateurhour> bug: too many people are getting an extra wish from their wow
10:44 <amateurhour> severity: critical
10:44 <K2> added it to the pad
10:45 <K2> not sure what's more fun for aosdict - playing evilhack or identify and recording all of the bugs he's found
10:45 <K2> *identifying
10:46 <amateurhour> you should play another game of xnh and do the same
10:46 <amateurhour> we all win as the bugs get fixed
10:46 <amateurhour> :)
10:46 <K2> i reported a few
10:46 <K2> xnethack prob has way less bugs
10:50 <aosdict> I called in the Yendorian Exterminators. Cost a lot of zorkmids, but it was worth it
10:50 <bhaak> I don't have to look at the code but I'm pretty sure I used rnf so I didn't have to think about rn2
10:51 <aosdict> bhaak: rnf in vanilla when
10:51 <bhaak> it's not in enough variants yet
10:53 <amateurhour> what's rnf?
10:54 <amateurhour> nvm I just went to the source
10:56 <K2> bhaak you did
11:00 <bhaak> no thinking, no mistakes. the art of programming is make you think less while not being able to make a mistake :-)
11:01 <amateurhour> don't underestimate my ability to make mistakes, it will be ur downfall
11:01 <K2> here, hold my beer
11:01 <amateurhour> B^)
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11:12 <aosdict> weredemons can only infect me in hell hound form right?
11:13 <VaderFLAG> I think I got infected once when they were in & form, but possibly misremembering
11:17 <aosdict> VaderFLAG: well he summoned help in & form so who knows
11:28 <K2> should only be in d form
11:59 <aosdict> ok there's an unknown wand in the secret graveyard in the valley lower left - this is opening?
12:02 <aosdict> are magic traps super biased towards the "summon monsters" outcome? this is like the 5th out of 7 times I've triggered that in the valley...
12:12 <amateurhour> they are super biased yeah, even in vanilla
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12:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 4 points, T:38, killed by a system shock
12:58 <aosdict> aaaaauuuuugggghhh
12:58 <aosdict> the unknown wand from the valley is NOT the wand of opening
13:00 <K2> Charon has one if you're feeling frisky
13:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1114 points, T:3722, killed by a straw golem, while being terrified of a ghost
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13:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] kaguya (Inf Ith Mal Una), 163 points, T:262, killed by trying to drink molten lava
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14:03 <aosdict> time to step on a magic trap again
14:03 <aosdict> who wants to bet that it will summon monsters
14:03 <aosdict> the other one did
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14:09 <aosdict> okay, this is an INCREDIBLY goofy image
14:09 <aosdict> "The shade squeaks in terror!"
14:16 <aosdict> You have a little trouble removing Q - a dragonhide bag of holding named Bag of the Hesperides
14:16 <aosdict> finally
14:18 <amateurhour> gratz
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14:48 <mobileuser> or grazzt?
14:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:76208
14:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:76210
15:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63340
15:12 <K2> hmm sluggoman's crash - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/evilhack/ttyrec/2021-06-16.18:19:32.ttyrec.gz
15:12 <K2> as soon as his ancient pseudodragon killed a werewolf, boom
15:13 <aosdict> maybe related to corpse?
15:13 <aosdict> werecreatures have two PM entries and that could be related
15:13 <K2> not sure. can try to recreate
15:13 <aosdict> I killed a werewolf earlier and it was not a problem
15:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63350
15:14 <aosdict> don't remember if it dropped a corpse
15:15 <K2> there wasnt a coredump, so this ttyrec is all I have to go by
15:15 <K2> mm_aggression is first thing called
15:15 <K2> then mfind_target
15:16 <K2> then find_offensive
15:16 <aosdict> you haven't implemented function-call level telemetry throughout the codebase? blasphemy
15:16 <K2> ah lemme do that real quick
15:16 <K2> ... done
15:16 <K2> o.O
15:17 <K2> but that's not the original crash
15:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:63377
15:18 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/evilhack/ttyrec/2021-06-16.17:31:31.ttyrec.gz
15:18 <K2> ^ that's it
15:18 <K2> attack_checks then attack
15:19 <K2> was attacking a barrow wight riding a nightmare (nightmare is actually a chameleon)
15:19 <K2> barrow wight is invis
15:20 <K2> using magicbane as weapon
15:20 <K2> hmmm
15:21 <K2> oooooh
15:22 <K2> its 'tail of a nightmare, being ridden'
15:22 <K2> dammit
15:22 <K2> and its present in the second crash, i think the pet tried to target it
15:24 <aosdict> I continue to be vindicated in not pulling in monster steeds
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16:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:63525
16:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63528
16:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 855 points, T:1662, killed by an ancient pseudodragon
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16:30 <rebatela> are you playing no geno, mobileuser? 
16:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 1041 points, T:2359, quit
16:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 1420 points, T:2557, killed by a white unicorn
16:51 <mobileuser> hi rebatela
16:51 <mobileuser> I am playing no Vecna :-)
16:52 <mobileuser> Finally out of gehennom
16:52 <rebatela> nice
16:53 <mobileuser> every time I quaff cursed gain level in the VotD, I get a message about a bad taste
16:53 <mobileuser> I have no idea why
16:53 <rebatela> yeah i still haven't genocided alhoons or L. I think I genocided one of the mind flayers though
16:53 <rebatela> i've never seen that message, but i've never tried to quaff there 
16:53 <mobileuser> lack of geno scrolls?
16:53 <rebatela> yeah
16:54 <mobileuser> I like to escape the VotD that way
16:54 <rebatela> big time and i've been polypiling the whole game 
16:54 <Umbire> It means you can't levelport out
16:54 <Umbire> VotD is no tele generally?
16:54 <Umbire> I forget specifics
16:54 <mobileuser> why would that leave a bad taste?
16:54 <rebatela> it's usually that you can't curse tele until you kill that gatekeeper dog 
16:54 <rebatela> no idea about gl though 
16:55 <mobileuser> rebatela no healing in the VotD
16:55 <rebatela> ah right
16:55 <mobileuser> so I like to get out there asap on the asc run
16:55 <rebatela> i noticed that clearing it out 
16:55 <rebatela> gotcha
16:55 <rebatela> you can heal yourself though right? it's just no regeneration?
16:56 <mobileuser> well I wouldn't like to waste FH pots there
16:56 <rebatela> right, but you're not going to die either 
16:56 <mobileuser> wizard could turn up...
16:56 <rebatela> yep
16:56 <mobileuser> why not get out immediately
16:56 <rebatela> oh i totally understand
16:56 <rebatela> but it sounds like maybe k2 was a step ahead?
16:57 <rebatela> or you think it's a bug?
16:57 <mobileuser> oh the potion works fine!
16:57 <rebatela> oh you just get the message in addition?
16:57 <mobileuser> it's just that I don't understand the message
16:57 <rebatela> i c
16:58 <rebatela> i have a handful of those potions myself 
16:58 <mobileuser> "You rise up, through the temple's ceiling! It tasted bad."
16:58 <mobileuser> for completeness :-)
16:58 <rebatela> i guess the ceiling of the valley of the dead tastes bad?
17:00 <Umbire> Cursed gain level probably just tastes bad period
17:00 <Umbire> like spoiled rare candy
17:00 <Umbire> or curd-of-wraith
17:02 <mobileuser> it only happens when leaving VotD
17:02 <mobileuser> I suspect a remnant of an earlier commit
17:02 <mobileuser> to do with Cerberus
17:06 <rebatela> thank god i finally found a death wand 
17:06 <mobileuser> \o/
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:78936
17:11 <rebatela> better late than never?
17:15 <rebatela> shoot i just remembered i have to kill the quest leader? Do i need to have the bell with me or anything or it will just make the bell work once i kill him ? 
17:17 <rebatela> oh i see. he lifted the curse but wants the eyes 
17:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Grand Master, on T:79025
17:22 <amateurhour> mobileuser: it's meant to say it tastes bad when the potion didn't make you change floors
17:22 <mobileuser> rip Master Po
17:23 <amateurhour> like drinking it in ludios or something
17:23 <amateurhour> it is a bug that it's saying that in the valley
17:23 <mobileuser> yeah, I suspect it's a leftover
17:23 <amateurhour> K2 needs an else if there rather than just an if probably
17:23 <amateurhour> probs always been bugged
17:23 <amateurhour> it actually calls goto_level twice
17:24 <amateurhour> nice find
17:25 <mobileuser> I remember that some time ago K2 wanted to stop people leaving the VotD that way
17:25 <mobileuser> But he changed his mind
17:25 <mobileuser> Maybe after long whining by me :b 
17:26 <amateurhour> :D
17:26 <amateurhour> go team whinge \o/
17:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:80433
17:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:64894
17:41 <rebatela> mobileuser has an artifact weapon for every monster!
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17:45 <krm26> Ugh. Evilhack, level 1, apparently totally blocked from down stairs by lava.
17:47 <Umbire> Screencap?
17:47 <krm26> I'm on the eu server if you wanna peek
17:47 <mobileuser> I am armed to the teeth rebatela
17:47 <rebatela> :)
17:47 <mobileuser> I'm like a barbarian porcupine :-)
17:47 <rebatela> haha
17:47 <krm26> I wanted a nice ez for levels after losing a 2nd astral planes character, bleargh
17:48 <amateurhour> haha krm
17:48 <amateurhour> that's really unlucky
17:48 <aosdict> rip
17:49 <aosdict> there might be another door into the room?
17:49 <krm26> Fiq astral was not at all like I remembered it from years ago -- couldn't teleport enemies, death ferociously drained my permanent health to nothing (worked his way through "oLS and 15 full healing)... brutal, especially considering everything in the main dungeon was a joke
17:49 <krm26> I've done 20 turns searching everywhere but I'm gonna go back and do it again :-P
17:50 <aosdict> I'm looking at that missing space beneath the >
17:50 <aosdict> why is it missing
17:50 <krm26> Presumably a door -- just not to the part of the dungeon I can get to
17:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:65033
17:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided krakens, on T:65034
17:51 <aosdict> unless it's a failed corridor, that's not likely
17:51 <krm26> Sure it is -- because the actual connection is through lava
17:51 <aosdict> try searching along the top of that 2-tall corridor, there may be a hidden corridor leading to it, to join rooms 3 and 4
17:52 <krm26> I've done that too but will do again until I starve
17:54 <aosdict> 100% disint resistance acquired \o/
17:56 <aosdict> krm26 I took a screenshot for posterity
17:56 <aosdict> of the lavaroom
17:57 <amateurhour> will you frame it and keep it beside your bed
17:57 <aosdict> for if K2 wants to see what happened
17:57 <amateurhour> fall asleep with a smile on your face
17:57 <amateurhour> "another dungeon generation bug was spotted today"
17:58 <amateurhour> I once had a totally disconnected room in evilhack ages ago, no secret doors and no path between stairs
17:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) had a dwarvish roundshield entrusted to him by Crom, on T:38238
17:58 <aosdict> no
17:58 <aosdict> not using that
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18:03 <krm26> Confirmed via 40s in every square, no route to stairs :-(
18:03 <Umbire> I legitimately wish you could Captain America shield in a variant
18:04 <Umbire> shields*
18:05 <krm26> Think K2 cares? Or is the occasional unprogressable level 1 due to lava ok?
18:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Crom, on T:39016
18:06 <aosdict> no I just wanted to zero prayer timeout noooo
18:07 <mobileuser> K2 I get the feeling #terrain is not working properly on the plane of water. Second game now where the portal doesn't show on option 'b'
18:07 <aosdict> krm26: my solution to this is to defer themed rooms where the terrain can randomly block progress to after level 4 so the mines are guaranteed accessible
18:07 <aosdict> of course evilhack doesn't really have the setup for this
18:09 <Umbire> aosdict: "hehehe gift machine go brrrrrrrrr"
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18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:65127
18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:65128
18:22 <mobileuser> haha, home!
18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 5033069 points, T:65146, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1621797088.evil.html
18:24 <Umbire> Geeg
18:28 <mobileuser> bedtime :-)
18:28 <mobileuser> see you!
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18:45 <K2> !who
18:45 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] mung [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
18:45 <K2> krm26 yes I care
18:48 <K2> ah i see
18:48 <K2> this is super rare
18:49 <K2> just bad luck with the lava placement
18:49 <K2> if you had started as a archeologist, this would be a non-issue
18:49 <K2> or a dwarf (they will sometimes spawn with a pick-axe regardless of role)
19:01 <krm26> Yup
19:01 <krm26> Just more of my patented luck :-)
19:02 <krm26> It might be reasonable to just not allow lava rooms on the 1st level -- if you get that luck on the 2nd level, at least you descended once :-)
19:02 <krm26> I'll go ahead and startscum that run
19:03 <K2> :/
19:03 <qt> k2 did you see the puddle thing earlier?
19:03 <K2> i think so
19:03 <K2> please refresh my memory?
19:03 <qt> puddles apparently can be generated on top of stairs
19:04 <qt> and then when you dip things into the stairs-puddle and use it all up, it turns into a . instead of a staircase
19:04 <qt> so it erases the stairs from the map
19:04 <krm26> OOh, neat
19:05 <qt> the specific bug report was about mindflayer nests
19:05 <qt> so idk, maybe the generation code needs to check for stairs when placing puddles there
19:06 <qt> gonna go do dishes be back later
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19:14 <K2> ooof ok
19:14 <K2> thanks
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19:15 <K2> i do recall seeing a bit about the puddle being used up *before* it affects what was dipped in it, should be after
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20:26 <qt> K2: I think this will fix the mind flayer puddle thing https://termbin.com/vtng
20:29 <qt> i also changed the neolithid thing in that patch so it rolls once at the start to make the entire nursery 'neolithid rampage' themed, instead of rolling once per square
20:30 <qt> I was thinking that's probably what you intended, because the current setup means even if you do happen to get the neolithid guy, the other squares of the nursery will still be full of larvae (unless they happen to also succeed in independent 1/100 rolls).
20:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 422 points, T:983, killed by a magic missile
20:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 189 points, T:731, killed by a green mold
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21:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) stole 27 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Yad's hardware store, on T:3176
21:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 2668 points, T:3185, killed by a watchman, while sleeping
21:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Misha (Inf Ith Fem Una), 416 points, T:868, killed by a little dog
21:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1271 points, T:1656, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze
21:58 <K2> qt thank you very much
22:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1749 points, T:2279, killed by a dingo, while praying
22:54 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±10] https://git.io/JnCg9
22:54 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 ab960b4 - Change 'its' to 'his/her' under certain circumstances when a monster is killed via illness or disease.
22:54 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 8717d8d - Different feedback if a shopkeeper nymph tries to steal your mirror.
22:54 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 649de20 - Fix: prevent shallow water in mindflayer nurseries from forming on stairs.
22:55 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 839ce31 - - Fix: prevent shallow water that has formed over stairs from drying up.
22:57 <aosdict> K2: the puddle dip before/after thing is unrelated to the stairs puddle bug
22:57 <aosdict> it's not a bug itself, it's just really unintuitive behavior
22:57 <K2> i know
22:58 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JnC2X
22:58 <Not-4fc0> [EvilHack] k21971 5e6d909 - Fix: prevent shallow water that has formed over stairs from drying up.
22:58 <K2> ^ typo
22:59 <K2> i just happened to include it in the same commit
22:59 <K2> 3 in 1
23:01 <Umbire> And the deal with lava-blocked starts?
23:02 <Umbire> Or we just leaving that at RNG's door and calling it a day?
23:02 <K2> its surrmountable, krm26 just didnt have the right resources to handle it
23:02 <krm26> Yeah, just not very likely to have those tricks on level 1 for most chars
23:03 <krm26> Could always get a random monster with a wand of digging before you starve, maybe
23:03 <K2> alright i have to be at work before 5am tomorrow, going to bed now. gnite
23:03 <K2> recent commits are live btw
23:04 <Umbire> Not really down with that but I suppose
23:07 <aosdict> 200iq strat: you can wet your boots indefinitely in a puddle of water without it drying up, so wear potions on your feet for infinite blanking
23:09 <Umbire> 2000iq*
23:09 <aosdict> wear a potion of levitation on each foot to levitate
23:10 <aosdict> YANI: whether or not a puddle dries up is determined by whether the water is part of a larger water body. before using up the puddle, do a breadth first search to find all connected water terrain and see if either it reaches the edge of the map, or a certain amount of deep water squares are connected. If so, the puddle never dries up.