01:01 K2: oi 01:01 Wand of Orcus is made of gemstone, right? 01:02 (or if anyone else can answer that's cool) 01:04 I assumed it was made out of human bone. :) 01:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 01:41 aosdict: And on that note, what do you classify gemstone as material-wise? 01:41 For purposes of weapon bonuses? 03:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:33 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 06:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:47 Doesn't the evilhack wiki page describe that? 06:48 the gemstone question? I believe it does. 07:00 if the question is in an xnethack context, gemstone basically isn't relevant to object materials as nothing can generate as gemstone that isn't natively 07:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:03 what is 'the gemstone question'? is it a euphemism for a marriage proposal? 07:07 lol 07:08 "01:01 Wand of Orcus is made of gemstone, right?" 07:09 made of "obsidian" says the wiki 07:21 mobileuser: but that isn't currently its own material, it gets set to gemstone in evilhack 07:21 which, obsidian gems are also made of gemstone so that's fine 07:22 booo obsidian should be glass 07:36 that would really confuse the distinction between obsidian stones and worthless pieces of black glass 07:38 whoa a random gnoll dropped mjollnir 07:40 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:48 rebatela congrats on getting the first eye of vecna drop! 07:49 now you don't have to wear the eyes for astral vision 07:52 is someone gonna tell me how it works or do i need to source dive ? lol 07:53 thanks btw. I like that branch! challenging but not impossible 07:54 wiki has a description 07:54 oh nice ;) ty 07:55 just never eat or apply it :-) 08:07 hmmm wearing the eye for mr currently anyway. invoking sounds like fun and dangerous. glad i did not eat 08:10 as long as you keep it with you, it will be there... tempting you... 08:10 better adjust it well out of the way to some hard to type capital letter 08:10 do you need to wear the eyes for MR? 08:11 wiki says yes 08:11 in 3.6 variants and later yeah 08:13 "Invoking the Eye too often can cause it to turn on the player instead, killing them." 08:13 is this just, instadeath? 08:14 oh it's luck based 08:15 still seems like it could be a nice spirit bomb for like astral 08:16 K2: because eye of vecna use directly modifies uluck, it allows it to go below LUCKMIN 08:16 why would invoking too often cause it? I thought it was just invoke under a certain luck value and gg dead 08:16 I would consider this a bug 08:17 can't imagine it tracking how many times it was actually used 08:18 amateurhour: well if you invoke it five times in a row you'll be pretty dead 08:18 unless you had high luck to begin with 08:18 so seven times without doing anything to re-increase your luck will be deadly 08:19 i was thinking of keeping unicorns and a bunch of gems with me 08:19 unicorn figurines or something 08:19 however you need to somehow prevent the unicorns from dying to the vecna gaze too 08:20 it could be kinda epic on astral 08:20 but yeah I think that revgenoing or using figurines of coaligned unicorns would be a solid strategy 08:32 hmm, is mjollnir actually better than cleaver in a 1v1 fight? 08:32 assuming same skill bonus 08:39 ok yeah wow 08:39 cleaver does 10.5/12 damage to a single enemy before enchantment/skill is factored in, mjollnir does 18/18 08:39 assuming enemy isn't shock res 08:44 yes yes YES finally got my hands on remove curse 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 772 points, T:1781, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:53 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Xerxes (Val Dwa Fem Law), 817 points, T:2943, killed by a giant mosquito 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1662 points, T:2888, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 206 points, T:1005, killed by a boulder 09:20 -!- cccrow has left #evilhack 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1405 points, T:1824, killed by a giant bat, while praying 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1414 points, T:3086, killed by a wand, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:44 things are going nicely, got a full ID now 09:45 although... I don't think in all this stuff is a way to cross medusa 09:45 can I dig down next to shallow water and have it not flood in? 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 674 points, T:1652, killed by a werejackal 10:04 oh sweet ludios DOES exist 10:04 guess that's what I'm doing now instead of castle 10:04 do you have magic mapping? 10:04 yes, but why would I want that for ludios? 10:05 if it's the one with the drawbridges, WATCH OUT 10:05 won't I see the drawbridges ahead of time before they can kill me? 10:05 telepathy shows a big square of soldiers and lots of centaurs 10:06 standard zoo and 4 dragons 10:06 he has the drawbridge map 10:06 I would recommend using magic mapping then 10:06 that black dragon is going to be tough 10:06 if you have magic mapping, use it before you go any further 10:06 nah don't listen to these cowards, YOLO 10:06 I am melee focused and passive disint is bad 10:07 bravely charge at those drawbridges to show them who's boss 10:07 lol 10:07 do you have dragonbane? 10:07 K2 I think as a sergeant you need to ensure better discipline of the nethack soldiers. the elves are fighting the orcs in the ranks 10:07 mobileuser: no 10:07 ooooh 10:07 shame... 10:07 too late to wish for it (not that I've had any wishes), too many artis have generated 10:07 aosdict that was fixed but now with the new racial system qt made, that probably wasnt taken into account 10:08 ok I mapped the level 10:08 I think this map is in unnethack and I've played it 10:08 see those centaurs in the cages next to the drawbridges 10:08 at leats one of them will prob have a wand of striking 10:08 *least 10:09 well so do I 10:09 well alrighty then 10:09 one does not simply walk over a drawbridge 10:10 amateurhour, aosdict is going to charge at those drawbridges and show them who's boss 10:10 \o/ 10:10 I think the biggest challenge in this level is the black dragoni 10:10 -i 10:15 actually, how are the centaurs supposed to hit the drawbridge anyway 10:15 go ahead, you got this 10:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 the centaurs are inaccessible unless I phase or pass through the iron bars right? 10:18 or zap attack wands at them 10:18 oh to really access them 10:18 never bothered... 10:18 hmm 10:19 there was a message about a soldier's body taking a strange transparency after quaffing invis 10:19 that implies I can see invisible, but I can't, I just have ESP on 10:19 probably a vanilla thing 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Mog, on T:4147 10:33 mobileuser: well one of them has a wand of death 10:33 so that might motivate me 10:33 yeah that would do it ;-) 10:33 just lost 3 helpings of max hp >:( 10:34 good luck! going afk for a bit 10:34 partial reflection suuuuuuxx 10:34 if you have tele and obj detection maybe you could tele the wand 10:34 out of their inventory? 10:35 once they're dead 10:35 ah 10:35 my options for hitting something without being in line of sight are limited 10:35 or not line of sight, straight line 10:37 the real problem here is passive disint 10:37 I assume if I toss my aklys at the black dragon it will get disintegrated? 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a stone small shield entrusted to her by Mog, on T:8372 10:41 ok with skilled in polearms I can hit the centaur at a knight's move 10:41 but I am not skilled in polearms 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:9972 10:43 ok killed Mr. Death Wand with sleep+cold combo so at least I won't get drained more 10:43 nice 10:43 schweet 10:44 still stymied by the passive disint problem 10:44 ranged attack 10:44 I'm not good at those :P 10:44 yolo 10:45 I had an idea for how to make this level even more evil but will not say it 10:46 beholders in the cages instead of centaurs 10:47 I said more evil not downright impossible 10:48 K2: but how does passive disint work specifically? my blessed +1 aklys will 100% disintegrate the first time it touches the dragon? 10:49 no 10:49 there's a chance it might 10:49 if an obj is fooproof it has a chance to resist 10:49 if its an artifact it has an even greater chance to resist 10:50 well it's mithril but not specifically fooproof 10:50 not magically 10:50 some obj are immune (invocation items, AoY, black dragon scales/scale mail, dragonbane) 10:50 fooproof or inhernetly fooproof 10:50 oh so mithril is immune? 10:50 i cnt spl 10:50 not immune 10:51 just a better chance to resist 10:51 where is this code found, I'd like to see the actual chance 10:52 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L4148 10:52 was already looking it up :) 10:52 ah so it's a 50% chance 10:52 yeah that's not worth risking my aklys for 10:53 it'll be gone on the second toss 10:53 well 16% chance then 50% after that 10:53 1/12 is probably still too high 10:53 embrace the yolo 10:54 now if I hit it in melee with an artifact, that will disintegrate my armor? 10:55 no, its only the object that comes in contact 10:55 I suppose I can also just chuck all these other discarded weapons at it 10:56 some players will keep a junk artifact handy for black dragons 10:56 how luxurious to have junk artifacts 10:57 oh, and what if I'm being digested by the black dragon? is that game over for my gear? 10:59 no 10:59 i may be evil, but i'm not a dick 11:00 * amateurhour looks at gelatinous cubes 11:00 ha ha 11:00 :^) 11:00 :P 11:08 Is there a reason Croesus's throne room seems to be practically all orcs? Is he an orc now? 11:10 no 11:10 rng 11:11 wand of death acquired c: 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:18190 11:13 okay we're going with conflict now 11:13 my charisma may be 6 but in a crowd of this size... 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:19267 11:17 rip this entire pile of items, killed by a overeager centaurian soldier with a wand of polymorph 11:17 K2: when you merge 3.7's bit for the "monster sees you resist a thing" will that extend to monsters zapping poly at you 11:19 evilhack has that 11:19 its had it for a long time 11:19 oh? I feel like monsters have definitely tried and failed to hit me with poly twice 11:21 ooh a dragonhide armor. too bad I already have a dsm that is the same but better 11:21 some wand types are purposely excluded 11:22 hmm i may not have added a thing for poly 11:22 as monsters using poly wands came after 11:23 YANI: "Almost grudges". Tension between certain groups of monsters (e.g. elves and dwarves) such that they won't attack each other on sight, but are far more likely to attack each other under conflict than two arbitrary monsters would 11:27 hmm are black dragons death resistant 11:27 if not, could just cut the gordian knot and zap it 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:20474 11:42 "The black dragon's hide partially disintegrates the human soldier!" when did this become a horror game 12:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:41 oh dear lord a sergeant mounted a yellow dragon 12:42 aaand my mojo is cursed 12:48 black dragon DEFEATED 12:49 no scales but corpse... out comes the tinning kit 12:49 \o/ 12:50 that's 50% disint res 12:50 do I take less damage from the "You aren't disintegrated, but that hurts!" thing with disint res? 12:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:30125 12:58 aosdict I believe so 13:02 is 13:02 'dragonhide cloak of protection and decay' something valid? 13:04 oh no it's not because cop is already magical 13:05 but a t-shirt of decay is totally a thing 13:05 that's right 13:05 dragonhide of course :-) 13:06 :) 13:06 :P 13:08 this was a pretty good excursion in terms of wands of death, I got 2 and there's a third I can come back to with poly control if I really want to 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 622 points, T:1997, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:51 K2: a pudding bit me once and my helm got hit by corrosion twice, I think I heard something about this, is it a known bug? 14:51 i wasnt aware of that 14:51 it's non corrodeable but I got "protected by grease! protected by grease! grease dissolves. gauntlets of power corrode!" from a single bite 14:58 wait i thought you were talking about the helm 14:59 yeah my helm was protected by grease twice in sequence 14:59 it was helm, helm, gauntlets 15:00 they have two attacks per round 15:01 no sorry 15:01 one bite attack one passive corrossion 15:01 hrm 15:04 put it on etherpad 15:04 *I put it on etherpad 15:05 were you encumbered at all? 15:05 or slowed? 15:05 definitely not slowed. don't remember whether I was burdened but there was definitely only one "The black pudding bites!" 15:06 i'm looking in erode_obj 15:06 and i dont think there's anything or water_damage_chain for corrossion 15:06 s/or/like 15:07 water has nothing to do with it 15:07 I see why 15:07 i know thats what I am saying 15:08 i dont think there's an equiv of water_damage_chain for corrosion 15:08 compare your erode_armor to vanilla's 15:09 in the helm case of the switch statement it calls erode_obj in an if statement and continues the loop as long as it returned nonzero 15:09 but in vanilla, it only does that as long as it returned ER_NOTHING 15:09 so it hit my helmet, got back ER_GREASED, continued, hit my helmet again, got back ER_GREASED (protected by grease even though it dissolved), then hit my gauntlets 15:10 the other erode_obj calls in that function seem to have the same problem 15:11 so theoretically if something tries to erode your gear while all external pieces are greased, will keep bouncing off the grease indefinitely until some of it dissolves and it hits an ungreased item 15:11 i see 15:12 this bug would have been present for quite awhile then 15:14 commit ee167515f3 introduced it 15:14 looks like it just deleted the == ER_NOTHING 15:16 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 15:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:29 hah, got a fancy stylish striped shirt off a convict player monster 15:29 leather even 15:29 must be zebra hide 15:31 not much good loot otherwise 15:31 you'd think a convict would have found some better stuff by DL20 15:42 lol 15:42 the abominable snowman is chucking boulder after boulder at me while I stand here unmoving and the boulders are all missing 15:42 can't touch this 15:43 careful that thing can F you up 15:43 yeah I should fight it off the ice if I can 15:44 and with my trusty aklys of don't-have-to-melee +1 15:45 has the thing where you can instadrown him on the ice been fixed 15:45 not sure 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:31506 15:46 well I didn't need to anyway 15:46 i know i've died on that level by not levitating on the ice and getting zapped with fire 15:46 how did you not crawl back out? 15:46 i don't know. because i was dead? 15:46 you'd have to be completely surrounded by water 15:47 it was a long time ago, but i promise crawling out wasn't one of the options. it was DYWYPI 15:49 slipping on the ice 15:49 that was the problem rebatela 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:32229 16:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3528 points, T:6324, killed by a gnome lord 16:37 K2: reflection is still a 100% protection against Medusa, right? 16:37 I can go around without a towel on if I'm reflecting, and nothing bad will happen? 16:38 even if she won't be instastoned by it 100% like in vanilla 16:39 Luxi playing evilhack \o/ 16:40 aosdict reflection is 100% protection against the GAZE 16:40 watch out for melee range 16:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4934 16:40 she has snakes that bite you 16:40 yup 16:40 and turn you to stone 16:40 what mobileuser said 16:40 luxidream is live-streaming evilhack - https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream 16:40 \o/ 16:41 yeah I know about melee range but was not sure about gotchas like "oh yeah reflection only protects you from instastoning 95% of the time, tough cookies" 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31801 16:42 \o/ 16:42 lol, she ended up stoning herself anyway 16:42 Yeah, she tries to avert the reflected gaze much as she can. 16:43 but I couldn't have done it without my best friend: the pit right in front of her door that stops her from leaving her room 16:43 lol 16:43 she can fly! 16:43 wtf! K2? :b 16:43 really? didn't look like it 16:43 @e?Medusa 16:43 Medusa (@) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 2d6 tentacle drain str, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 bite petrification | Alignment: -15 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravisible 16:44 flies 16:44 she can fly in vanilla too 16:44 so why didn't she fly over the pit 16:44 @v?Medusa 16:44 Medusa (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 0d0 gaze petrification, 1d6 bite drain str | Alignment: -15 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravisible 16:44 Huh. 16:47 oh doy why am I using 3.7 tactics on this beehive 16:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible elron's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:6003 16:51 what the heck? did I just go straight from sub-medusa levels to gehennom? why are there shades and spectres and demons wandering around? 16:51 with lava behind the walls and all 16:52 ah that's the replacement for the vanilla labyrinth levels 16:52 sort of fake gehennom 16:53 well it seems like someone took the gehennom level generator and slapped it where it doesn't belong 16:53 sometimes there are even alhoons there 16:53 I have complained about this to K2 :b 16:55 if I die to a stupid typo death into this lava I'm ragequitting this variant 16:57 amulet of flying is soooo liberating to finally wear 16:57 at the castle, but not in the way I wanted 16:57 arrived via a trap door 16:58 so I can't stairs back up and prepare my items 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 6779 points, T:6863, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 16:58 okay so there are dragons with the wow chest, not soldiers, which is good 17:04 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 17:05 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 17:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 17:07 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 17:08 -!- krm26_ has joined #evilhack 17:09 -!- krm26_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:09 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #evilhack 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2383 points, T:2980, killed by a dust vortex 17:11 -!- amateurhour has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by amateurh1ur))] 17:11 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 17:12 -!- aos has joined #evilhack 17:12 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:12 -!- elenmirie__ is now known as elenmirie 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 420 points, T:1340, killed by Mr. Queyssac; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 17:14 nice, the castle monsters are spelling out "OREO" 17:14 Now I want some :c 17:14 and now BTENNO. so close 17:14 lol 17:14 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 -!- aos is now known as aosdict 17:15 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 17:15 evilhack has apparently not fixed the "You now detect it where the vampire bat was" 17:15 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #evilhack 17:17 -!- amateurhour has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by amateurh1ur))] 17:17 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 17:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:22 huh? I think there's a vampire genderbender going on here 17:22 there was "The vampire bat turns into a vampire queen!" but in subsequent messages and farlook it's a king 17:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:23 there doesn't appear to be another one about 17:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [*.net *.split] 17:24 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:25 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:25 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 17:26 even 3.7 has some gender bugs 17:27 some very recent commits are addressing those but the code there and here arent the same 17:27 it might be a vanilla bug but I'd hesitate to classify it as one because of evilhack's weird blend of the 3.7 and splicehack gender systems 17:27 oh no it's finally happened, I'm out of tins 17:31 F 17:31 On that note I've been finding multiple tinning kits in my mobile Un games lately 17:31 "use up a tinning kit" should be a TNNT achievement 17:31 adding it now 17:32 Should be easy for me :^) 17:37 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:8260 17:41 huh, what does "Foo coughs." mean (with a period and in the absence of a gas cloud)? 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Raider, on T:32759 17:41 dragon was cancelled, trying to use breath attack 17:41 I wonder how a random silver dragon on a fresh level got cancelled 17:42 oh wait 17:42 there was a microlance ghost 17:42 I assumed just valley but... could it be? 17:42 bones????? 17:43 anyway I was NOT prepared to enter the valley yet, and now I have no way back to the main castle 17:44 okay there is a ring and a key a few steps away so perhaps I did just hit the jackpot 17:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:48 and UGH I forgot that quaffing blessed full healing would kill the game's memory of how many levels I had acquired 17:48 so now it thinks I maxed out at 9 17:49 Oh that's a fat F 17:50 no wait 17:50 it only recovers 1 level and cuts the max by 1 level? or at least the code says so 17:50 maybe I'm misremembering 17:51 whatever behavior 3.6.6 had would be present here 17:51 wouldn't it be 3.6.2 era 17:51 or did you pull in 3.6.3 gameplay features 17:54 evilhack is based off of 3.6.6 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 !tell microlance found your valley bones - having some difficulty securing them at the moment but they look promising! 18:01 No worries, aosdict, I've got this! 18:03 wand of wishing 0:3 \o/ 18:04 wait, can they be recharged or no? 18:04 I know death can only be recharged once 18:05 same as wishing 18:05 the wand he had must have been castle wand 18:05 Castle wand can be recharged, yes 18:05 rando wands of wishing spawn pre-charged 18:05 no this is the regular castle wand, not from microlance 18:05 And if it was in his bones then 18:06 There you go 18:06 o 18:06 Well yeah 18:06 I went back to get it 18:06 gotcha 18:06 hey a lot of variants including mine make it so wands of wishing can NEVER be recharged 18:06 gotta be cautious 18:07 No it's a perfectly fine question 18:07 But yeah, only Castle wand in evil 18:07 That said, it doesn't magically become 1:3 or w/e if it ends up in bones afterward, right? 18:07 no 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay named antivampire", on T:33039 18:08 k2: I assumed as much, just wanted to be sure 18:08 it features hibiscus flowers on an orange background, by the way 18:09 :) 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15718 18:17 oh interesting, the castle armory had the other three as yet unidentified cloaks 18:17 so I don't know which is which but I have invis, displacement, and protection 18:17 perhaps should try to switch to protection for the valley? is there much of an acid threat there? 18:18 I'd wager so, if not in the Valley then in Gehennom proper 18:19 yeah but just the valley for now 18:23 hang on, is erodeproofing your BoH so that it doesn't burst into flame if you fall in lava a thing? 18:23 Generally 18:23 Wishing for a dragonhide one is also a thing 18:23 not fall in, just walking over 18:26 if I fall into lava it still burns up all my stuff right? 18:27 I would imagine the effects would be MORE severe than walking over the lava 18:27 anything that isnt fireproof yes 18:27 but as I said, you want to fooproof any flammable objects in open inventory if you plan on walking over lava 18:27 and hesperides is naturally fireproof due to being dragonhide 18:27 yes 18:28 it also acts as an oilskin sack 18:28 I don't plan on walking over lava I am scared to death of typoing into the castle's lava pit 18:28 fireproof/dragonhide water walking boots 18:29