00:00 Yeah, cuz I'm ever going to level 347 :-) 00:00 I'm sure the black dragons will be happy to wait for me to get there 00:01 Man, 20 other monsters in the room beating on each other with conflict and nobody can manage to hurt the one disenchanter I want them to kill 00:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 00:03 Sounds like an AC problem. 00:03 Nope, dead now -- just takes the magic whine 00:03 Truely there is nothing whining can't accomplish 00:04 sudo drop me some shuriken 00:09 Want dragonhide boots to drop all the time? Play a centaur! 00:16 Do I remember correctly that evilhack thrones can now dust rings and wands with shock? 00:17 I don't know, I don't like to sit on them without shock res anyway 00:17 I didn't think shock res guaranteed proof against that 00:20 I see no recent changes to throne behaviour... 00:20 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Throne#Sitting_on_a_throne 00:20 other than less chance of a wish 00:21 see #8 00:21 " Items in inventory are not at risk of explosion." thx 00:21 hmm 00:21 That is barely evil at all! 00:21 that cant be right 00:21 hey stop that 00:22 Oops...so evil, so very very evil 00:22 Oh crap past my "past my bedtime" time 00:22 Gnight! 00:22 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23 huh i guess it is right 00:23 i could have sworn you could lose wands/rings from sitting on a throne and getting the shock 00:24 It's the one thing that doesn't that you would expect it to 00:25 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25 ah well 00:25 gnite 00:26 Night. 00:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 00:47 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 00:48 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "doot doodle a doot do", on T:6175 01:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 03:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 12974 points, T:9718, killed by a giant zombie, while moving through the air 05:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:20 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 06:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5690 points, T:4730, zombified by a diseased kobold corpse 06:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 266 points, T:1291, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:31 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1607 points, T:2062, killed by a mountain dwarf 07:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:30190 07:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30214 07:18 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:3475 07:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3876 points, T:3609, zombified by a human zombie, while frozen by a potion 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 288 points, T:476, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while disrobing 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 542 points, T:1023, zombified by a dwarf zombie 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 253 points, T:441, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit 08:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:36 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 08:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:32396 09:16 nice 09:18 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:19 Weird -- TWO pegasi from Kathryn? 09:20 #name m 09:20 hacks 09:20 #name m 09:20 cheats 09:20 And they seem to fight each other even though both are tamed 09:21 oooh 09:21 one of the eggs hatched! 09:24 So the castle wand came 0:3 and there are two scrolls that have never dropped -- genocide and charging :-P 09:24 hah of course 09:24 Couldn't even polypile one up 09:28 Two pegasi pretty much one-shot all the shopkeepers 09:30 you can grow them up into greater pegasi 09:30 find some barding for them 09:30 One just did 09:30 they'll last a good long while 09:34 Is it worth having them kill the Oracle? Don't think I've ever killed him before 09:36 Hah, nevermind 09:38 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4247 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4297 09:51 Oracle = her ;-) 09:51 You never killed the Oracle to get slotless warning? 09:51 No. My greater pegasus stood next to her for a turn and was instagibbed 09:51 Barding and all 09:52 Also, last time I checked you could hardly hit an earth elemental ;-) 09:52 I'm different now 09:52 things are looking up! 09:52 nice 09:53 My only trauma right now is the castle wand was 0:3 and charging is the scroll that has never dropped 09:53 Srry, 0:0 09:53 huh? 09:53 did a monster zap it? 09:53 Just came out of the chest that way 09:54 I didn't even know that was possible 09:54 ^ K2 ? 09:55 any polywands? 09:55 I guess it is possible some unseen monster hit me with a /oCancellation that only affected that wand without my noticing 09:55 ah... 09:55 Yeah, I've burnt through 3 poly wands trying to get charging, no dice 09:55 no 09:55 I'll find one somewhere in hell 09:55 then it would be -1 : 0 09:55 or something 09:55 Yeah, removed from locked chest on undisturbed scroll of scare monster 09:56 very strange... but very evil 09:56 I can't complain, after all the stupid bones artifact weapons I can't use I *still* got dragonbane on my first lamp wish, so everything is good 09:56 I mean, I can and will complain, of course 09:56 cancelled wand would be 0:-1 09:56 or x:-1 09:56 whatever its charge state was 09:57 close enough ;-) 09:57 something minus :b 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4570 points, T:4548, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted panther 09:57 how could the castle wand be 0 : 0 ? 09:57 it shouldnt ever be that 09:57 only thing i can think of is that a monster used it 09:57 and then stashed it 09:58 and then politely locked the chest again 09:58 and locked the chest? 09:58 I guess that is possible -- didn't notice any nice wished items lying around 09:58 no they dont lock containers 09:58 I suppose I'd need to reinspect the tty, wasn't super attentive as wasn't expecting a wand issue 09:59 But I thought I pulled it pristine from a locked chest as 0:0 09:59 yeah you might have locked it yourself... 09:59 I do that sometimes 09:59 Idiots should have at least wished for 2 scrolls of charging! 10:00 hah you dont want that 10:00 they'll use them 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 4 points, T:182, killed by dipping into a forge 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 126 points, T:670, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 312 points, T:925, killed by a giant bat 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible sluggoman's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5414 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5650 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 1083 points, T:2554, killed by a soldier ant 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical conical hat entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:6559 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 282 points, T:396, killed by a piranha, while jumping around 11:33 please don't make the monsters start wishing for charging... 11:34 I've definitely had that same problem though where the monsters get the wand first and i get it 0:0 with no charging ID'd... Usually clear out the valley and then polypile 11:34 that's super weird that it was in the chest like that though? 11:34 usually it will be on the ground after they cash it out 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 383 points, T:1093, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 9727 points, T:7534, killed by an ochre jelly 11:42 a xorn got to it and phased it out of and back into the chest :P 11:42 maybe? 11:43 i mean, will a soldier put something in a chest and lock it? I've never seen monsters put things in boxes (only bags) 11:49 not lock it, no 11:49 not sure about putting things into containers like large boxes/chests 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 988 points, T:1872, zombified by an orc zombie 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 1006 points, T:1388, killed by a rothe 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mountain dwarf), on T:1282 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:3730 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed tinklebear the orc zombie, and former Rogue, on T:3768 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 843 points, T:1599, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mountain dwarf 12:25 that was weird. I remember killing myself a little while ago by eating a zombie because i wanted to start over, and i guess tinklebear found my bones and then became zombie themselves 12:25 It's very comfortable; soon everyone will be a zombie 12:28 found magicbane and keowola in sluggomans minetown bones too., so i guess arti-wishing is out.. Might break weaponless and play with magicbane for a bit 12:29 Don't give up! My current run one bones gave me Giantslayer and Sunsword and another gave me Magicbane (as a monk yay) -- still got Dragonbane from my first wish 12:29 You never know 12:30 Artifacts in bones is often a cruel joke tho 12:30 remember, you can always disable bones per your cfg 12:30 woo found a +3 bone orcish helm 12:30 do you think bone orcish helms are just skulls? 12:31 I certainly hope so 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a stone crossbow on an altar, on T:3588 12:32 https://medias.spotern.com/spots/w640/63/63367-1532336916.jpg 12:32 name the movie 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4207 12:36 K2: did you do anything to tree-kicking on oracle to increase the odds of eucalyptus leaves? it's been a surprisingly good source of them across my games 12:36 That's some lazy worbla armor there. Looks a bit like Henry Cavill 12:37 not tree kicking specifically 12:37 i did up the odds for e leaves to spawn 12:37 Is that Clancey Brown? 12:37 n a m e t h e m o v i e 12:37 Oh that's Clancey Brown from highlander I bet 12:37 ^ 12:37 I don't think I've gotten bees once. I guess it's just good RNG 12:37 I had forgotten he was in that 12:37 dingdingding 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3863 12:38 It has been so long since I've seen Highlander, and yet somehow not long enough 12:38 best movie EVER 12:38 !whereis sluggoman 12:38 He's the main villain right? 12:38 nabru: [hdf-us] sluggoman [evil]: (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) T:3733 The Gnomish Mines level: 9 12:38 yes 12:38 He's such a good bad guy 12:38 Don't hate me but I preferred the shlocky TV show 12:38 ugh 12:38 yeah yeah. i know i can disable bones, but what fun is that? Artifacts you find shouldn't count towards wishing 12:38 all the sequel highlander movies suck 12:38 just a big fat 'WHY' 12:39 there can be only one... again 12:39 rebatela: I suggested allowing you to bury artifacts from a bones on their grave to remove them, and their wish penalty, from the game 12:39 Dig a hole, drop the artifact, drop a boulder on it, magic! 12:40 but it still exists under the floor 12:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:40 Would need special code obv 12:40 some variants only count gifts/wished for artifacts... 12:40 Remove it under those circumstances 12:41 Maybe give you a small alignment boost for laying the dead to rest 12:41 it's especially frustrating playing monk and finding weapons all the time that are useless but screw up wishing 12:41 but i like your idea! 12:41 oh great it's zombie whackamole time 12:42 can monks even train dagger? will i be able to hit with magicbane if i try to use it ? i know in vanilla it doesn't matter so much 12:42 aaand my cat is dead 12:42 YANI: new candle type, zombies can't respawn in its light 12:42 oh it's a quarterstaff now anyway right? 12:42 forgot I could toss eucalyptus at it 12:42 Magicbane, yes 12:42 oh and i can train quarterstaff sweet 12:43 I'm not sure that is worth doing as a monk, even slightly 12:44 I gave my monk's magicbane to my pet balrog but he preferred using a sling 12:45 was it blessed? 12:45 I vaguely recall worrying about that but I don't recall if it was or not 12:45 He got polymorphed into a giant spider almost immediately in any case 12:46 Shoulda given him a cloak of mr but I guess I'm not sure balrogs can wear those 12:48 they cant, they are too big 12:50 oh I forgot that conflict is cha dependent 12:50 so my conflict will fail on... 14/20 attempts? yikes 12:52 your cha is that low? 12:52 Don't stat shame! 12:54 hmm I stepped in shallow water and these cursed -1 snow boots I've been wearing since literally the first room rusted. since they're not prefixed with a material I assume they're kicking boots? 12:54 The only iron boots 12:54 Rust em off your toes 12:55 yeah it's probably not worth doing, although I seem to like magicbane more than most and it would allow me to wear robe and have mr in the early game 12:55 krm26: as soon as I find some better boots perhaps 12:55 although the problem with that is i'm always hitting w- out of habit so I will likely die somehow depending on it for mr 12:55 if i'm going to use it maybe i'll intentionally curse it so i can't unwield by accident! 12:56 There's a cunning plan 12:56 Good thing to do with your gloves, too, to make sure you don't accidentally stone yourself 12:57 But then a stupid ki-rin would come along and offensively bless your gear 12:59 hehe 13:01 dammit i was half-joking about using magicbane but i think a gnomish wizard cast enough spells to finally burn my cloak away because i no longer have it 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5617 points, T:4088, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted watch captain 13:11 wait, traps can generate on shallow water? 13:11 I just lost my boots entirely by stepping onto a sleeping gas trap on shallow water and stood there sleeping while my boots rusted multiple times 13:12 Heh 13:12 That's a real spa day 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7261 13:14 "You feel like you could use some more practice" 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 630 points, T:993, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:7419 13:17 (got it) 13:17 aosdict traps can form in shallow water/sewage, but water effects shouldnt happen whilst stationary 13:17 hmm 13:17 well no they should actually 13:17 yeah that part made sense 13:18 rust/corrosion isnt dependent on movement, yeah 13:18 but I was not expecting a trap on a non-floor terrain 13:18 how am I going to remember that that was a water space, etc 13:18 i may need to revisit that. some traps in shallow water wouldnt make sense (pit) 13:19 lol 13:19 trap door under shallow water 13:19 hah 13:19 hole under shallow water even 13:19 if a trap door is opened and its under shallow water, the water is drained 13:19 ^ yani 13:28 YANI: Artifact sponge tool: Soak up water to wet. Apply to blank a scroll, erase engravings, remove grease or oil or pie, extinguish flaming spheres... 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a queen ant), on T:8254 13:28 damn those things are no joke! 13:28 wtf 13:29 krm26: or just have a wet towel do those things 13:29 Sorry, I meant SOAK UP water: Remove a water square 13:29 in true douglas adams fashion 13:29 As in an item that gets 1 charge from killing a water square, and then you can spend that 1 charge doing something cosmetically related 13:30 Squares would reflood if there was too much adjacent water, I assume there is already pit logic for that 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 749 points, T:2175, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:31 so another one-artifact-wonder item type? 13:31 what would a non-artifact sponge do? 13:31 Ok, make it spongestone, an artifact gem :-) 13:31 I agree that adding new one-off types is undesirable 13:32 And I think having some artifact-level-rarity pseudoartifacts for the various tool and misc object types would be fun 13:33 So sometimes you found the artifact blindfold that gave you skilled in longsword so anybody could be Zatoichi 13:34 I like it being an artifact towel instead of a gem 13:35 Or an artifact pear that gave you +2 max charisma when you ate it 13:35 after all towels can already remove pie face and slippery fingers on their own 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 596 points, T:1709, killed by a mountain dwarf, while being terrified of a ghost 13:46 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10442 13:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:05 Ohhh right no regen in hell 14:05 That's not great 14:06 just the valley I think? 14:06 votd 14:06 not hell 14:06 just votd 14:06 Gotcha 14:07 This centaur monk can really dish it out but I'm a glass cannon 14:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:34325 14:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:34333 14:09 Omigod this pegasus is a bloodthirsty little git 14:15 Gah my first alhoon and without grease 14:16 I feel like evilhack is a lot harsher on attacking a peaceful monster? has it implemented the "alignment violation = immediate tank to 0 and then go negative" rule? 14:16 oh right abuse is now tracked on its own 14:16 i've never noticed and i kill a lot of peacefuls 14:16 Yeah, it is a bad scene to do that now 14:17 i just kind of accept that i'm gonna have to kill the quest leader if i make it far enough to need the bell... 14:17 which is relevant for the quest, but I feel like I've attacked a peaceful gnome here and there and then immediately not been able to safely pray? 14:17 you might be right 14:18 i don't have a lot to compare it to because i rarely pray in vanilla 14:18 and pretty much always sacrifice a corpse before i pray for holy water in evil basically for what you're talking about 14:18 losing protection sucks! 14:19 Oh god dammit, I've been a perfect vegan and then I automatically eat the first wraith I kill 14:19 WTF dude 14:19 lol 14:19 Conduct warnings are absolutely critical for me, I can't cope otherwise 14:20 Oh well, guess I'm chowing on some black dragons now too 14:20 i never bother with the vegan thing 14:20 i do weaponless, but as far as the warnings go- what's the point if it's going to warn you ? 14:20 I never *successfully* bother with it :-) 14:20 The point is I'm dumb 14:21 amateurhour plays monk all the time and does all those conducts 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1622 points, T:2716, killed by an Angel of Ptah 14:21 I'm in full support of warnings 14:21 like i got weaponless in my xnh ascension, but it warned me a bunch of times thati was going to hit with pickaxe.. how is that impressive ? 14:22 because you abstained from using the higher damage, enchantment potential, and artifact selection offered by using weapons 14:22 yeah 14:22 true 14:22 but the hard part is not accidentally hitting with the pickaxe digging through hell 14:23 it's not hard if you never dig through hell with a pickaxe :) 14:23 I just use /oDig 14:23 i know 14:23 Of course I'm also a believer that asking for confirmation before walking into water is reasonable even in evilhack 14:24 yeah. i don't like that at all 14:24 I agree with paranoid water too 14:24 and paranoid trap 14:24 what's the point? 14:24 they are just decorations if it's going to prompt you 14:24 L3 is too paranoid to add paranoid water/trap 14:24 nah 14:24 he gets it 14:24 paranoid that players might like it 14:24 irl I wouldn't accidentally walk into the water 14:24 Mostly those things are gotchas when you're in a long boring stretch of the game overpowering everything -- it is the game's fault it isn't edge-of-the-seat the whole time, not yours 14:24 you'll never see it in vanilla either 14:24 wanna bet? 14:25 It doesn't change any (IMO) meaningful difficulty metric 14:25 they're not things that make the game harder, just more annoying 14:25 well i'll stop playing 14:25 Nobody is going to ascend with that change who couldn't have before 14:25 no it makes it harder.. you want to be able to play fast and sloppy with no consequences 14:25 we've had this debate so much 14:25 if you're good enough you can play fast and not typo 14:25 do you play with colour on? 14:25 i'll take horrible analogies for $1000 alex 14:26 lol, colour actually makes it easier 14:26 similarly autopickup as well 14:26 I like both of those 14:26 rebatela: I move slowly and methodically and STILL fall into water in the evilhack mines because my keyboard sends an extra press or I hit diagonal instead of orthogonal 14:27 I usually fall to an unexpected intervening prompt while typing several movement steps ahead because I'm bored 14:27 this should not have disproportionate consequences like "remember all those scrolls you had? bye bye" 14:27 why not make it so you can restore from save? i didn't mean to type that key... 14:28 Oh, yeah, those are clearly the same, and nobody is just being a dick :-) 14:28 the game is unforgiving. that's the point. Are you sure you want to die? Y/N? kind of takes the fun out of it for me 14:28 The game should be unforgiving, the user interface doesn't need to be 14:28 rebatela: please stop making this strawman/slippery slope argument 14:28 no one is arguing in support of removing permadeath or "die y/n" prompts 14:29 well, I'm glad there are variants that make the game easier. Water and Lava etc. are supposed to be dangerous 14:29 Nethack would be the same game with an arbitrary interface stuck onto an API that showed you data from the game engine and accepted your instructions 14:29 And such an interface could easily do a drown-confirmation-prompt 14:30 how about putting cancel wand in Boh? Should it prompt you ? 14:30 Tiles/no tiles, numpad/nonumpad...just UI crap 14:30 Nope 14:30 might as well get rid of that mechanic. it's almost always a typo 14:30 for cancel wand in boh I like the dnh solution 14:30 when both boh and cancel wand are formally identified, warn 14:30 Really? In my experience that bag of holding exploding is usually an ID failure 14:31 Yeah, I wouldn't mind that, amateurhour 14:31 yeah i guess sometimes. but a lot of times for me at least it would be accidentally putting all in bag 14:31 I have been agreeing more and more for getting rid of the mechanic 14:31 whether it's an extra boh or tricks or cancel wand 14:31 Think of it this way: Put a confirmation on EVERY action, and let you use nethackrc to turn off the ones you don't like, like when moving into a normal empty square :-) 14:31 because there is never a case where someone does that intentionally 14:31 and that's a product of playing too fast 14:31 similar to typoing into water 14:31 in real d&d you can suicide bomb with some bags of holding :) 14:31 I assume you're opposed to using alerts and stuff in the nethackrc file too 14:32 ftr, I take dips in the mines in evilhack ALL THE TIME! I HATE IT !@! 14:32 but I understand it's supposed to suck 14:32 This can only be settled with an ascension battle 14:32 sometimes i dig down and then can't find the upstiars and walk into water multiple times 14:33 and i rage quit 14:33 nah. we've had this argument a zillion times krm26 :) 14:33 Hmmm...guess since I already blew vegan I might as well use the Sword of Kas on Vecna and see if it is as good as a *trice 14:34 ^ best weapon to use on vecna 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9230 14:38 evilhack is not yet babyeasyhack but it will get there for sure! 14:39 ehhhhvilhack 14:44 i have unnethack as inspiration 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:1966 15:03 i need to play unhnethack next i think... I have a pretty good splicehack and now evilhack game going 15:03 is anyone else playing multiple variants at once? 15:03 I've been alternating, but not simultaneously 15:04 yeah.. this is the first year I've really participated in junethack. i never really played variants before 15:05 i mean i played, but would just play vanilla. i'd love to ascend in a couple more variants. we'll see 15:08 You mainly do evilhack now? Evilhack is mostly all I've played for about 2 years 15:08 same 15:08 it's basically become my vanilla 15:09 although i really enjoyed my xnh game and i'm loving splice 15:09 evilhack is so addictive 15:09 for sure 15:10 and i don't feel so bad dying because i know it's hard lol 15:10 xnh felt a lot like vanilla 15:11 yeah the spell system is different. i ran out of PW on astral. would have been screwed but luckily i had a couple blessed gain energys 15:12 usually cast magic missile at death 15:15 Man I hate gray dragons SO MUCH 15:15 (unless I'm a giant) 15:15 Wonder if I can kick him to death 15:16 never kicked a gray dragon, I expect that to also cancel stuff? 15:16 Even if I'm not wearing boots? 15:16 Dammit he ate my pegasus 15:16 well you're still hitting them 15:16 BURP 15:17 With my hooves 15:17 i think when you're engulfed they will cancel anything 15:17 He can disenchant my hooves all he wants 15:17 no it's general cancel 15:17 it's not like a disenchanter 15:17 eg your wands could get cancelled 15:18 right 15:18