02:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:35 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1224 points, T:2954, zombified by a hobbit zombie 03:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed tinklebear the orc zombie, and former Cutpurse, on T:1571 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1204 points, T:1590, zombified by an orc zombie 04:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1371 points, T:1680, killed by a gold golem 04:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1125 points, T:1055, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant mosquito 05:02 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Val Dwa Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a blindfold on an altar, on T:5321 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1722 points, T:2605, zombified by a kobold zombie, while disrobing 05:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 6390 points, T:8526, killed by an energy vortex 06:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3208 points, T:3141, killed by a giant mosquito 06:22 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 06:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 253 points, T:691, killed by a gnome lady 07:08 -!- cccrow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 2827 points, T:3824, killed by an owlbear 07:53 does evilhack cut the frequency of domestic monsters so that it's harder to find a replacement pet? 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1670 points, T:3258, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3875 08:07 aosdict I don't think so, I suspect RNG 08:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Mon Cen Fem Cha) had a twisted staff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:2113 08:41 v a r i a n t p a r a n o i a 08:52 ^ that 09:02 !rng eat the unicorn | offer the unicorn 09:02 aosdict: eat the unicorn 09:02 no !rng for Hecubus? 09:03 you're late 09:03 ima do the opposite 09:03 it was too old to sacrifice so I chowed down on it 09:10 heh 09:36 the game apparently wants me to quit adventuring and take up a quiet life as a reseller of nonmagical whistles made of fancy expensive materials 09:40 !rng yolo the rest of the mines | do the safe thing and go make holy water and uncurse stuff 09:40 aosdict: do the safe thing and go make holy water and uncurse stuff 09:40 sigh 09:41 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:47 Hecubus is smart 09:47 !8ball is Hecubus smart? 09:47 K2: Don't count on it 09:47 aww 09:47 !8ball is Hecubus evil? 09:47 mobileuser: Better not tell you now 09:48 a horse showed up so now I have a horse, gonna loot that big scroll shop 09:48 nice 09:49 do zombies get permadestroyed by tossing them into deep water? 09:49 I don't think so 09:50 they don't drown 09:50 EPI: they get soggy and grow mold and gain an additional [color] mold attack 09:51 aosdict no 09:51 lave, yes 09:51 lava 09:51 lava yes 09:51 aosdict no 09:51 so I just need to find a way to turn water into lava 09:51 I'll get a research team on it 09:57 just add rock at 2500° C 09:58 lava = water + lava - water 10:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Mon Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby green dragon, on T:7068 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3671 points, T:3086, killed by a wolf 10:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] wheals (Mon Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:7390 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 814 points, T:1916, killed by a bone orcish arrow 10:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5405 10:36 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:39 I finally have a game where I've cleared Sokoban without a !oObjDet... The items poof when a door is opened, right? Not when one is picked up? So I've got to wait? 10:42 I thought they went poof when picked up? 10:43 And other doors disappear when you open 1 door? 10:43 Ok, so I could in theory destroy the doors instead of opening them, and the items would remain on the floor for me to pick one -- so object detection is unnecessary? 10:44 I think I'm too nervous, need that item...will wait 10:45 Might not be so easy to destroy the doors? 10:47 probably best to find object detection first 10:53 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 11:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:6462 11:08 \o/ 11:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Val Cen Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has removed her long sword from existence, on T:3522 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:4744 11:18 destroying one of the doors yourself will erase the other doors too I think 11:20 I think monsters can destroy the doors without having that happen 11:20 ^ 11:20 also you could polymorph into a fog cloud and pop on through the keyhole or whatever 11:22 I think the door security is unnecessary at this point given that there's no way to get more than one of the prizes into your inventory 11:24 dang I was thinking you could cleverly move them all onto one square and pick them all up at once, but it doesn't work 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3364 points, T:6189, killed by a blast of fire 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 543 points, T:857, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:35 I have to stop quaffing from fountains on the first level and getting wishes, I CAN'T STOP myself from automatically self-destructing with deadly wishes 11:49 qt: I think the only possible exploit I can still see is get a monster to pick one up without poofing the others (not even sure if this is possible) and then get them to flee downstairs or cursed levelport, go find them, pick up the prize, others don't poof since they're off-level, rinse and repeat 11:49 aosdict: I'm pretty sure monsters won't pick them up 11:50 can you knock the prizes down to the floor below by zapping digging? 11:56 isn't it impossible to dig thru the floor in sokoban? 11:56 Yup 11:58 Wow, this tournament has really salted the dungeon with bones 11:59 wait actually I can do it... 11:59 yeah you can totally dig the floor in soko especially after it's solved 11:59 Ah, right, restrictions removed after solved 11:59 i can even do it before it's solved 11:59 I'm not sure it's even restricted in the first place 12:00 I guess it just makes more work for you, no reason to stop you :-) 12:00 if you have a digging tool it's nice if you have a spare boulder in an inconvenient place 12:00 * aosdict shakes fist at evilhack soko levels that have no spare boulders 12:00 ok so it is possible to dig a hole 12:01 but the sokoban object will never fall through a hole 12:01 is there specific code for that? 12:01 yeah it looks like it's in impact_drop(dokick.c) 12:02 anything where is_soko_prize_flag(obj) is true gets skipped over when evaluating things that can fall thru 12:02 Need to have a monster use a drum of earthquake on the final Sokoban level to really ruin your day then 12:03 7,000 turns and still no way to do anything to a bones ghost...darn monks 12:41 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 12:41 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 12:41 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 12:41 -!- bhaak has quit [Changing host] 12:41 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 12:42 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 12:48 I am always guaranteed to find my first dragonhide armor in an unusable slot -- armor for a monk, boots for a centaur, etc. 12:53 shop cleared out, the shk has one book left that I decided to let him have so he could have something to read (and it was a duplicate) 12:55 Leave him a zombie to keep him company 13:09 :) 13:10 So my game is full of early bones and the ghost are irritating as crap -- any brilliant ideas for disposing of them when you are a monk with unenchanted gloves? 13:10 Do I have to club them to death with a blessed spellbook of healing? 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4305 points, T:4069, killed by a rope golem 13:11 that might work 13:11 That would violate weaponless conduct though 13:11 and its not enchantment, its beatitude 13:11 krm26 no it wont 13:12 book != weapon 13:12 (yes, <- what I meant) 13:12 Says someone that doesn't own a copy of the OED 13:12 Ok, spellbook it is! Let's see how long this takes me 13:13 (spellbooks tell me I cut and slash with them) 13:13 I should be thumping, maybe riffling 13:13 You close your book on post163's ghost. You smack post163's ghost hand. 13:13 haha 13:14 Lacerating too -- those paper cuts are a killer 13:15 I feel like I'm doing less damage per round than the ghost's regen 13:16 hmm odd 13:16 Yeah, several hundred rounds of lacerating the ghost later I'm ready to give up :-) 13:16 an object like a book doesnt fall under slash/piece/bash 13:16 it must be defaulting to slash 13:19 Ugh, I wonder if my stolen pseudodragon can kill a cube for me 13:26 ok ok I'll take pity on the shopkeeper... I won't let his only reading material be a dangerous magical book... I'll return his copy of Terry Pratchett. If he pays me, that is. 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 898 points, T:2010, killed by a piranha 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 120 points, T:472, killed by a goblin 13:39 My monk's best weapon is a pseudodragon from sluggoman's wizard bones and a magic whistle 13:42 your monk's best weapons are at the end of ur arms 13:45 i had fun with my dynahack monk, but i sure missed the changes made to it in evilhack 14:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:10348 15:23 K2: Finally found a stethescope, confirmed blessed spellbooks do 0 damage to ghosts when wielded as a weapon 15:24 Despite the messages about cutting and lacerating them with the book :-) 15:24 hah 15:24 s c i e n c e 15:29 you're sure it wasn't a dull spellbook? 15:30 It sure sliced a lot for being dull 15:36 Ugh, take stairs and the new level is the interior of a gelatinous cube 15:37 That is tres unpleasant 15:39 so cozy 15:43 I wasn't paralyzed for some unknown reason so I'm actually alive 15:43 Was really lucky, /oDigging is about the only escape item I have 15:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 361 points, T:1303, killed by a falling object 16:07 Hmm, what happens when you apply a mirror at a nymph shopkeeper? They should helplessly teleport away with it, leaving you their shop 16:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:32 So my pseudodragon leveled up enough to hit ghosts before I ever found any way of hurting them (14k turns, level 11, useless monk :-) 16:33 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:49 showing a nymph shopkeeper a mirror won't do anything special afaik 16:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:13 K2: https://termbin.com/7ttb <- nymph shopkeeper and mirror interaction 17:15 oh so it will do something special? 17:15 no, the patch is just to change the response from 'foo ignores her reflection' to make it slightly more flavorful 17:16 well, if the nymph leaves the shop and starts chasing you it would start working 17:28 evilhack makes invis from wands temporary right? 17:28 at least, on the player 17:30 yeah 17:30 the only permanent invis is a random effect from a magic trap 17:35 hmm I have cursed geno 17:35 nothing to use it for right now I think 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1837 points, T:3409, killed by a hobbit zombie 17:57 perm invis from crowning is also permanent 17:58 oh I didn't realize you could become invisible from crowning 17:58 oh brain fart :-) 17:58 I was thinking see invis, sorry 17:58 clearly bedtime 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2518 points, T:3417, zombified by a hobbit zombie 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:15, killed by a fox 18:33 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36 qt thanks 18:38 k2 come to think of it, the bit at the top of that patch should probably be changed 18:38 the use_racial_glyph part -- idk why the actual behavior of the monster should depend on how they are displayed on the map 18:38 it should probably be just 'mlet = r_data(mtmp)->mlet;' 18:38 ok 18:43 qt how's junethack going for ya so far? 18:45 pretty good, I am frustrated by my inability to find gold detection in my xnh game 18:45 but I think it is ascendable as long as I don't make a stupid mistake 18:45 sweet 18:46 * qt knocks on wood 18:47 good call. look away RNG! avert thine eyes! 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1633 points, T:2987, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:15 I'm not gonna call any evilhack game of mine ascendable until I'm on the high altar 19:15 you can go from 100 to 0 real fast 19:20 truth 19:21 yup 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 519 points, T:961, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:50 and honestly I'm struggling to do much more than complete mines and soko 19:55 okay a large mimic hiding as a yellow ( when I've been jonesing for any light source is just cruel 19:55 i cant claim that one 19:56 and the two random ( in the mimic of the mines are... leashes. which I already have one of. 19:58 agh! it's the O with a wand of fire again! 20:01 yeah... time to bail I think. already found a luckstone, not going to probably die to the ogre 20:03 giant turtles having an AC of -8 strikes me as odd 20:04 me and him are going at it like https://media1.tenor.com/images/a3fdcbf2f52db7dfc24c30ac4f93911e/tenor.gif?itemid=4051127 20:09 yeah turtle shells are supposed to be soft 20:09 o.O 20:10 I think ideally what you want is an AC of -8 but augment the "foo deflects bar's attack" code with a big helping of "body" AC for creatures that have relevant body parts 20:11 credit turtles with perhaps 12 or 15 points of "shell" AC so that most of the time it prints "the turtle's shell deflects your attack" 20:12 that way it _feels_ like I'm at least hitting the big, slow turtle in front of me even if it isn't hurting him 20:16 not a bad idea 20:16 added to etherpad 20:16 thx 20:17 are you enjoying playing this? 20:17 well I'm not enjoying the inevitable dying 20:17 I think it is a very spiky game 20:18 no one enjoys that regardless of variant 20:18 unless its slex 20:18 easy for something to show up randomly and end your game 20:18 sometimes you have the resources to deal with it, sometimes just not 20:21 game keeps you on your toes as they say 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:9564 20:22 NICE 20:23 but... but my shield 20:23 its one handed 20:23 heavy war hammer is one handed? 20:23 yes 20:23 damage output is roughly the same as a long sword 20:24 oh right evilhack made a hammer that's better than the ordinary hammer in every way while still leaving it in 20:24 of course 20:24 cant appreciate the sweet without the sour 20:24 food time, bbl 20:24 it's not sour it's just pointless to have the regular war hammer in the game now 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:9620 20:25 ok... I don't really need more weapons 20:25 I just want the clover 20:26 short sword/long sword - mace/heavy mace - war hammer/heavy war hammer 20:26 ok bbl for real 20:31 btw I've had this bearded axe for the whole game and haven't found an opportunity to use it 20:31 maybe it could be cool if I could use it to get like the wand of fire off that ogre lord... 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible aosdictj's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:10449 21:09 lol I enter a throne room, the elvenqueen on the throne is surrounded by orcs, which when I wake them up begin to pummel her 21:10 there must have been some delicate diplomacy I interrupted 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a leather apron entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:11576 21:36 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 21:46 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 21:57 heh 22:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15142 23:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Mal Cha) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:16584 23:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:32 Does fooproofing a ring keep shocking spheres and other lightning crap from dusting them? 23:34 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:35 -!- Umbyre has joined #evilhack 23:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]