00:00 yeah dude that was nuts 00:00 i would have just altar camped for a while til i got potions. i overppreare tho 00:00 and you had the mitre but eventually you ran out of PW 00:00 Yeah, I got fed up -- I'm always high turncount but that game was getting silly 00:01 yeah i don't give a fuck about turns, conducts, etc. etc. with evilahck lol 00:01 I really could have used the spellpoints for jumping... No gain energy either 00:01 lifehack: keep umber hulks as pets. They'll confuse the summoners so tons of acid blobs show up instead! 00:01 I am not a skilled ascender-with-pets 00:02 Need to put more of an effort into that 00:02 they're hard to keep through the planes 00:02 titans are my favorite pets 00:02 but you need to ggive them reflection etc. 00:02 with charm monster you can have pets anytime you want. 00:03 how do you think of names for them all? 00:03 * tinklebear believes a pet needs a name! 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:6745 00:04 * tinklebear pictures bouquet with a herd of U, migrating across the plains of gehennom 00:05 my Orange dragon's name is "Sleepy Time Herbal Tea" 00:06 The new withering is really giving me a hard time 00:06 going to name my umber hulk "Too Much Vodak" 00:06 yeah charm is really the most OP spell in the game 00:06 maybe sleep actually 00:07 evil makes in lvl 2, but in vanilla you can write sleep blind with your lux maxed out really easily as a non-wizard 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:6927 00:07 i write magic missile a lot when i don't know it (again you need to max luck, but it's still pretty doable) 00:08 i don't know how people play melee roles... I need my spells 00:08 magic missile can be convenient 00:09 what is the new withering? 00:10 i don't think there's much you can do? 00:10 unihorn no longer works 00:10 it goes away if you don't die 00:10 doesn't it just time out, like it always did? 00:10 yep 00:11 Oops, a new day where I am -- time to let this character marinate. Gnight! 00:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11 oh. so it's just a unihorn nerf then? (I hadn't even thought of using one for that.) 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:35904 00:13 yeah it used to cure withering until this version 00:14 ok, i see. 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:36026 00:17 rebatela: I tend to lean toward spellcasters, but dual wielding 2H weapons as a giant samurai was pretty OP. 00:18 i guess i will die to vecna now? 00:18 i kinda want to just skip 00:18 i have to at least test out this hat... bring it alhoon 00:19 i wish krm didn't just leave. I have questions to ask dammit! lol 00:20 i forget if it was vaderflag or mobileuser I watched do this level and i think they put a boulder on the stairs so it couldn't heal ? 00:21 rebatela: Someone stoned him recently, I think. 00:21 yeah krm26 did 00:26 i'm just not sure if the gaze attack will instadeath me if i'm wearing eyes of the overworld? 00:27 hopeuflly it's just like getting hit with a death wand with mr where it drains your maxhp 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7923 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:8190 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5388 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:37016 00:50 oh shit. arch lich mines level. AGAIN 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful ettin, on T:37469 00:50 whoops 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37473 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37475 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 5115 points, T:5684, killed by an invisible arch-lich 00:56 rip 00:56 RIP, Vlad the Impaler 00:56 was it that bones in the mines ala arahael? 00:56 yes. yes it was. 00:57 there's an arch lich mines bones i've died to a couple times 00:57 yeah... that levels gonna be there for a while lol 00:57 tinklebear: It's an *awesome* level. :D 00:57 it really is! 00:57 It's a triple-bones now, is it? 00:57 there's some serious loot for when someone has MR 00:57 might be quintuple bones now 00:57 i've died to it twice 00:57 rebatela: There's definitly MR on that level. 00:58 I brought a wand of death there (barely used) once. and a poly wand this time. 00:58 tinklebear: You can't death a lich, though, can't you? 00:58 I didn't even try. no, you cannot. 00:58 it happened to be in my sack when I dug down. 00:59 i still need to go back and kill the quest leader to uncurse the bell or whatever 00:59 was not expecting the Arch-Lich. 00:59 i've "gravely" abused my alignment 00:59 it's arahael's fault. he let that gnome lord jump RIGHT into the polytrap 01:00 lol 01:00 :D 01:00 this shambling horror wants to ruin my day 01:02 heh. Vampire herder. 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9908 01:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2399 points, T:3537, killed by an owlbear 01:12 so i think i'm gonna collect a zillion holy waters> polypile and stack like 30 cursed gain levels on the vibrating square level and then just quaff my way to the planes 01:13 i did that once and put like 20 of them under a boulder on the very bottom of dungeon , but i splatted lol 01:21 would be cool if that worked out. 01:27 i gotta say, that conduct you were doing playing the sucubus is some creative shit 01:27 super fucking cool 01:28 I had fun! 01:29 seeing stuff like that is what keeps me playing this game! i'm not as smart as a lot of y'all ! haha but stuff like that makes me think. I think nethack is good for the brain 01:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:33 hello umbire 01:33 Hi 01:33 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 01:37 it is fun to think/speculate, and then watch your predictions play out (or totally not play out) the way you planned. 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1403851 points, T:39968, crushed to death underneath a drawbridge 01:43 oh god i just died fuck good night 01:43 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 01:43 again 01:43 have fun with the bones kids 01:43 crap. okay, goodnight, rebatela 01:44 Is there even a corpse left with those kinds of bones? 01:44 there is 01:44 i found my own in this game 01:44 oh maybe not if you're crushed underneath? last time the bridge exploded 01:44 motherfucker 01:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 871 points, T:1008, killed by a mountain dwarf 01:44 F 01:45 !lastgame 01:45 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1622217492.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1622386504.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1622438402.evil.html 01:45 Yeah if you're crushed I think that's just straight up GG 01:45 i felt like it was a trap.. like there isn't space there so what are you suppoesd to do? 01:45 not enough left to bury 01:45 i cast knock 01:45 and i died 01:47 i guess i should have cast it diagnoally from two spaces away 01:47 this was all going through my head just as i cast the fucking thing 01:47 it is a little counterintutitive that the spell called "knock" works at range. 01:47 but, you know, it's MaGiCaL knocking 01:48 what a little shit level l3 01:49 * tinklebear is still laughing for some reason 01:49 it's sad, but I laugh 01:49 i don't get why the bridge should kill me there? i mean, i know it does. but wtf doesn't the bridge just come down on that spot? 01:50 this is the situtation, right? #@| 01:50 yeah 01:51 Where you're standing is where the bridge normally comes down 01:51 As it's always been 01:52 a lowered drawbridge covers significantly more surface than a raised one. so, more squares than one. 01:52 * tinklebear is just making this up as we go along 01:53 it's really is like a planned joke, just waiting to be sprung. 01:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 256 points, T:327, killed by a mountain dwarf 01:54 the game is just shot through with those kinds of things, right? 01:55 "So I lower the drawbridge, and then go in the castle?" 01:55 "Yes." 01:55 "WAIT NOT THAT WAY!" 01:57 L3's favorite 80s band is Killing Joke 01:58 (not fair to lay all this at one variant dev's feet, ofc) 02:04 i'm pissed. coming down off this cloud lol i shouldn't have even been playing ah well 02:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1080 points, T:1448, zombified by a diseased dwarf corpse 02:11 I know that feeling, rebatela! 02:14 but, you know. it's fun to play, whether everything happens perfectly clean, or super messy. 02:15 and disasters are... I mean, a game that can conjure up something that feels like A Disaster... it must be doing something right, no? 02:16 * tinklebear is trying to do empathetic banter, but is maybe not so good at this 02:19 What I'm trying to say is, basically, a good game of NetHack is like that Amy's Baking Company episode of that cooking show 02:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:20 * rebatela cries 02:20 LOL 02:23 i sent you a message tinklebear says you are afk. you are good people thank you is basically all 02:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 02:25 I'm no good at IRC! 02:26 * tinklebear did not know /away doesn't stop automatically 02:28 ha! me neither 02:29 Bug? I picked up a magical stone, which turned out to be a loadstone - for some reason, I couldn't drop it. 02:29 Discovered I had a scroll of remove curse, so I wielded the stone, and read it. 02:29 I felt like someone was helping me... However, it remained cursed. 02:29 But now I was able to drop i1/ 02:29 !? 02:29 But now I was able to drop it!? 02:29 one of these days you'll make it out of the mines.... enough with the arch-liches though! 02:30 scroll should remove curse so you can drop it 02:30 It didn't, but i was able to drop it... 02:30 It now says: You see here a cursed magical gray stone. 02:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 872 points, T:2006, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe 03:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3728 points, T:3285, killed by a wolf 03:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:49 epic backscroll 03:49 rebatela that was a really cruel ending :-( 03:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:59 just googled "Amy's Baking Company" omg 04:00 "a good game of NetHack is like that Amy's Baking Company episode of that cooking show" really?? :') 04:03 K2 interesting, the burned sprig of wolfsbane I had now shows as "rotten" :-) 04:04 Consequence the earlier fix I guess 04:04 * of 04:25 FWIW, mobileuser, I think the imps agree with me ;) 04:26 lol 04:36 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: a toot a lure] 05:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:13 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58145 06:14 Yeenoghu was suddenly summoned 06:15 I still feel major demon summonings are a bit more frequent in 0.7... 06:17 cursed triple-headed flail named Butcher 06:17 now I wonder if priests have flail skill... 06:18 expert even 06:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 06:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:24 "The gold rod of lightning welds itself to Dispater's hand!" bleh 06:26 really K2 06:26 Your ring of teleport control turns to dust and vanishes! 06:26 Your ring of slow digestion turns to dust and vanishes! 06:26 Your wand of teleportation breaks apart and explodes! 06:26 Your wand of digging breaks apart and explodes! 06:26 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 06:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:58203 06:29 good thing I have backup rings 06:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2794 points, T:3757, killed by an elven arrow 06:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 924 points, T:2050, killed by a rothe 07:30 I wonder if Rodney is jealous that drawbridges have more kills than he does since .7 07:34 the parser isn't going to catch it as written so YANI: krm26 bag of homogenization ^^^ 07:39 " an uncursed rotten sprig of wolfsbane" I wonder if that's a thing you normally don't see 07:40 not sure, but I think that normally you only discover "rotten" after partially eating it? 07:41 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:05 my barbarian is starting to collapse under the weight of artifact weapons 08:06 just found sunsword on the floor 08:06 send them to friends and family as presents 08:06 heh 08:06 barb wants them ALL 08:06 armed to the teeth 08:07 here u go my beloved laptopuser, I gift you werebane, happy anniversary 08:07 lol 08:07 on my way to add lifestealer to the collection 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30767 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11550 08:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:13230 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:59415 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59416 09:26 Lifestealer! 09:31 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful yellow dragon, on T:53782 09:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4963 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54050 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54052 10:00 Shocking spheres seem to always unerringly blow up my free action 10:00 lol welcome to my world 10:01 i hate those freaking things 10:01 Didn't even have a round to take it off 10:01 you can fooproof the rings w/ enchant weapon (i'm sure you know this). Not always easy to do early 10:01 That was basically the only decent item I had after 35k turns, too :-) 10:01 i splatted right after you went to bed 10:01 so dumb. anothe drawbridge 10:02 Doh! For me, now 35k turns no altar, no holy water, no identified anything... 10:02 I'm an unenchanted daggerstorm with free action except now without free action 10:02 Never surrender! 10:03 hehe. yeah I save every ring i find because I know i'll need to polypile and replace some 10:03 I do have a wand of polymorph but until I can uncurse and identify it is just an emergency escape tool 10:04 yeah i always keep it in open inventory for that exact reason 10:04 sometimes i will poly those gel cubes etc. 10:05 Smoky is extra healing this run! Not as thrilling until I can get holy water though 10:05 And still lugging around my two cursed magic lamps (actually, now one cursed and one uncursed) 10:06 They are a bit heavy but I need to carry both to help whoever ends up with my bones 10:06 haha 10:07 why don't you do boulder fort in minetown? i feel like i asked you this already 10:08 I may have to, been down to 16 now with no altar and 16 has some scary NPCs in it that I think will kill me 10:08 no priest NPC? 10:08 Only priest, only altar is cross-aligned in Minetown 10:09 In one of those flippy tiny rooms that are hard to even box the priest in with bolders 10:09 I mean, is one of the NPCs a priest 10:09 No 10:09 shame... 10:09 Although if one was I *definitely* wouldn't be able to kill it, I'm a vegetable 10:09 I might be able to kill a dumb caveman 10:10 Anything my last charge of sleep will take 10:10 So it is a choice between trying to finesse my way down a few more levels in hope of a late altar or screwing with the minetown priest 10:11 But can't I get an angel popped on my by altar conversion? That'll probably kill me too 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:54550 10:12 yeah altar conversion can be risky too 10:12 the air elemental of very angry god appears! 10:14 Yeah, my only trick for a conversion punishment monster is a tooled horn 10:15 sometimes it's like a coutal or an incubus. not all that tough 10:15 but yeah you never know 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 green dragon scale mail", on T:8871 10:16 Green? That's an interesting choice 10:17 very early wish, AC and poison res sorted 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8927 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8986 10:22 hi 10:22 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 10:22 yeah 'rotten' instead of 'burnt' for now at least 10:22 i'm ok with that for now 10:24 -!- krm26_ has joined #evilhack 10:26 It is hard to convince me that poison is a bigger risk than beams or magic even in the early game -- I think I'd even prefer gold 10:26 OH F YEAH 10:26 Mosquito dropped a replacement ring of free action 10:28 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:30 hi k2. i hate your game. thanks 10:30 j/k ;) 10:33 Mm, not an altar, but a dilapidated armory with at least two bags, I might finally get holding 10:33 Except it is full of disenchanters I probably can't kill 10:34 @e?disenchanter 10:34 disenchanter (R) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -10 | Attacks: 4d4 claw disenchant, 0d0 passive disenchant | Alignment: -3 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 10:34 Speed, AC too high 10:34 MR 0 though 10:34 maybe zap sleep 10:35 disenchanters are unchanged from vanilla 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:59854 10:35 Reluctant to waste sleep...might cancel them and try to slug it out 10:37 Gah, 20k more turns and still haven't been able to uncurse/bless these lamps 10:38 "The alhoon's body crumbles into dust." 10:38 TAKE THAT 10:40 krm26_ not found blessed remove curse even? 10:41 Nope 10:42 Found a single uncursed remove curse which I blew to uncurse my cloak of magic resistance and one wielded lamp 10:42 No holy water or way to make it of course 10:42 Got a marker though...but again, no blessing source 10:44 Gah, mummies are killer now that horns don't work 10:46 Yeah, I whined loudly when I first learned about the unihorn nerf :-) 10:47 K2 would not be moved 10:47 Can take an awful long time to clear withering even with an 18 con 10:48 there are other ways to clear withering 10:48 evilhack ties withering to con? 10:48 yo krm are you joining teamsplat this year? 10:48 With all the extra undead stuff in evilhack I kinda think a ring of protection from undead should be added (protect from zombie brain chow, withering, maybe even partial level drain) 10:48 aosdict, withering in evilhack behaves the same way as it does in xnh 10:48 i left in a couple extra ways to clear it though 10:49 healing potion types 10:49 I've never been invited to a team, my reputation precedes me 10:49 I invited you to teamsplat shortly after you signed up 10:49 Ummmmmm 10:49 Me smart, use interface gud 10:49 :D 10:50 Where would I find such an invite? 10:50 I'll resend it, other people mentioned not seeing it 10:51 Was my bad, didn't know where to discover it on the site -- found it 10:52 Are there particular variants teamsplat needs covered? I assume my current evil game doesn't count since I started it a few days ago 10:53 yes. only games strictly within june count. 10:55 bleh lava gremlin infestation 10:55 RIKEeeeeeeeer!!!! 10:56 elenmiiiiriiiiieeee!!!! 10:56 EPI: air gremlin, they multiply in air rather than water and can steal intrinsics regardless of time of day (but with 50% chance compared to the others) 10:56 It is sad when a disenchanter can beat you in fair hand-to-hand combat 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7442 points, T:6643, killed by a honey badger 11:02 krm26_ we'll discuss in the team channel what needs to be played, but really its just 'have fun' 11:02 that's the main rule 11:02 you do you, girlfriend 11:03 krm26_ check your private messages 11:03 :P 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16751 11:09 AND the burnt bag from the dilapidated armory is holding! I get to park this game for June on a high note 11:09 \o/ 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:17860 11:26 wewp 12:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:22537 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a green dragon, on T:22987 13:31 The large box explodes! You die... 14:01 heh, pug the convict in the wizard quest had Sunsword! 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:53775 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53796 14:13 nice! 14:18 this new thing where my quest leader is hostile... can't I just walk past her and keep the prize? 14:18 Alignment abuse 14:18 i.e. they're asking for the quest arti back 14:19 You can refuse but they'll be on your ass 14:19 idk specifics, though 14:19 fortunately, I can branchport my ass out of there with EotA 14:19 or something 14:20 ya, that worked 14:20 Do quest leaders drop phat lewt or anything? 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27434 14:31 bouquet I think it is enough to have chatted to your quest leader, you don't need to kill them 14:32 You can check #conduct 14:32 It should say "You have completed the Quest." 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:28064 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:28663 14:55 what's the penalty for not completing the quest? 15:03 bouquet the Bell of Opening won't work to unlock the sanctum 15:04 K2 did you take a map from splice? :-) 15:05 Graz'zt... new one to me 15:07 resists cold, shame... 15:08 "2 diamonds named The Tears of Koth" that sounds very splice 15:09 do I need earmuffs 15:09 better do the dishes first 15:30 "You hear futile pleas for mercy!" what is going on?! :-) 15:31 mobileuser: tears of koth was in Slash'em. There's a couple named gems I think 15:32 Ah, Splice got that level from Slash'em perhaps 15:33 there are many Slash'em elements in Splice 15:33 40k turns later with never an altar I finally manage to uncurse and bless the magic lamp I've been hauling around this whole time. So: no wish 15:34 still got 1 lamp left? 15:34 Yeah. But cursed 15:34 but you have holy water now 15:34 I do -- NPC priest coughed some up 15:34 I've got 3 lamps and I haven't had a need for them. RNG has been very kind 15:35 But is anything I could wish for worth an infinite light source? 15:35 there's always that 15:35 As a ranger I would wish for gold DSM but I already have orange DSM from an NPC 15:35 @e?Graz'zt 15:35 Graz'zt (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 85 | Generates: unique | AC: -9 | Attacks: 4d8 weapon physical, 6d6 claw stun, 4d6 cast clerical, 3d6 claw item steal | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 15:36 Eating demon lords should have a chance to mutate you and give you one of their claw attacks or whatevs 15:36 lol 15:36 Grow a tail here, a claw there 15:37 well, here we go... 15:37 I've been thinking of writing a Prince of Nothing patch -- changing flint stones to chorae, having them instakill any player or monster that has ever cast a spell into a salt statue 15:38 OMG! OMG! 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 326 points, T:1585, killed by a coyote 15:38 Graz'zt has Dirge!!! 15:38 DIRGE 15:39 K2 what a surprise! :-) 15:40 OK started with stun & steal 15:40 right this is a bit ridculous? 15:41 I have MC3, not every grab should be a steal 15:41 * ridiculous 15:41 Yeah, I was losing my Mitre first round every time 15:41 "bad luck" 15:41 You met Graz'zt already? 15:42 !whereis mobileuser 15:42 bouquet: [hdf-us] mobileuser [evil]: (Bar Hum Mal Neu) T:60676 Gehennom level: 41 15:42 Can't stetho the bastard anymore 15:42 I'm late to the rumble... why not? 15:42 because he stole it? 15:43 the bastard steals an item nearly every turn 15:43 reflection gone now 15:43 that's awful. That's like some demon lord Antigulp put in Splice. 15:43 stripped me naked then fucked me to death. 15:43 got paralysis or sleep potion? 15:44 this turn seduced me to take off my hat 15:44 nah, no such potions 15:44 Get the f out of dodge and come back with a boulder fort 15:45 can you zap tele? 15:45 and that's my BoH gone 15:45 if he steals every turn that's not right. 15:46 you can't escape a unique demon that easily 15:47 at least he is distracted by the goodies from the bag now 15:48 The invisible Graz'zt zaps a wand of digging! The floor here is too hard to dig in. 15:48 lol 15:48 sucka 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Graz'zt, on T:60703 15:48 whew! Nice work! 15:48 PHEW 15:49 amazing! 15:49 next time: boulder fort :-) 15:49 how did he appear? Gated by another demon or is he part of asmo's lair now? 15:49 I think what demons you get are totally random now? 15:49 3rd demon ring, it's RNG which one you get 15:50 tactic: throw Graz'zt with lots of interesting trinkets 15:51 he got very distracted instead of finishing the job 15:53 wow, I have Dirge now 15:53 @e?wizard of yendor 15:53 Wizard of Yendor (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confers: fire poison | MR: 100 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d12 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast clerical | Alignment: -128 | Flags: omnivore, flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, teleports, nopoly, covetous, infravisible 15:54 Looks like he's an auto-Dirge if it hasn't been previously created 15:59 Is blessed identify super-nerfed now? Haven't had more than 3 items proc in over 20 uses now 16:00 that's RNG 16:01 I've had full identifation 16:02 Just more of my inimitable luck I guess 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:19320 16:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 3358 points, T:3202, killed by a wraith, while fumbling 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:54991 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:19740 16:28 drawbridge hack 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:55433 16:48 Oooh, leather armor on turn 55k :-) You must be ecstatic 16:49 YANI: Additional rare object properties, one for each spell school, that gives a casting boost (as with the special staffs) 16:50 non-wishable 16:52 YANI: New ring type, ring of opening -- locked doors and boxes open instantly when worn; maybe blessed also untraps doors and boxes for you 16:53 Sounds like a mini-Master Key 16:53 Eats a ring slot 16:53 Probably balance it with a chance of unblessing each time 16:53 Ooh, I like that -- whenever it defeats a trap has a chance of unblessing 16:54 YANI: Object property for "unstealable" 16:54 except by the Wizard of course 16:55 x - the unstealable Amulet of Yendor 16:55 Well, if you can wish for the Amulet of Yendor you might as well be allowed to wish for it to be unstealable too :-) 16:56 A bit surprised there haven't always been rings of nothing and amulets of nothing 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:55509 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:55514 17:02 -!- Umbire is now known as Umpyre 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:43767 17:03 because why add items that literally do nothing 17:03 the existence of a wand of nothing isn't reason enough to add more pointless stuff like that 17:03 * amateurhour looks at iron chain 17:04 They don't do nothing -- they are identification complications 17:04 (in evilhack I also think that price identification should be entirely overhauled to make it mostly useless) 17:05 slex did it in a really bad way but has since toned it down 17:05 that wouldn't affect me 17:05 knowing scroll of ID is enough 17:05 "making price ID useless" lol 17:05 it used to be that in slex every potion was 300 value, every scroll 300 value, every wand 500 value 17:19 I'm surprised that slex doesn't have different rulesets for different portions of game mechanics and choose randomly between them each game -- you get 1 of 3 different price mechanics, 1 of 5 different sets of object properties, 1 of 3 different ways unicorn horns behave, etc. 17:20 "Ohh, this is the game where you use the tinning kit to tin other metal items to prevent corrosion!" 17:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:26 Hi K2 17:27 hi 17:27 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 17:27 I got DIRGE 17:27 :-) 17:27 \o/ 17:27 i saw 17:28 Am I right that you took a level from Splice? 17:28 It was a nice surprise 17:30 i took one and modified it 17:30 and then the one with the named gems 17:30 that's modified too 17:30 but that's not a splice original, it came from dnethack maybe? slash'em? 17:31 slash'em probably... 17:31 feel slightly like it's a dnh thing 17:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 -!- krm26_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1298 points, T:2160, killed by a killer bee 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57995 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58005 18:14 gg 18:16 ahh .6 . everytime i think ok this must be the last person still playing the old verison, someone surprises me 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1069 points, T:2387, killed by a warg 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:29454 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58928 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30637 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge), on T:59078 18:53 !whereis Grouchy 18:53 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] Grouchy [evil]: (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) T:58929 Gehennom level: 51 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:59202 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59237 19:20 K2 evilhack definitely needs the write-your-own-epitaph feature 19:22 heh 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2742 points, T:4309, quit 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed), on T:59422 19:26 damn Grouchy 19:26 twice now 19:26 wonder how many amulets they've got left 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 14 points, T:114, killed by a fox 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 160 points, T:944, killed by a boulder 19:41 * arahael agrees with VaderFLAG. 19:44 !whereis grouchy 19:44 nabru: [hdf-us] Grouchy [evil]: (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) T:59470 Gehennom level: 49 20:42 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:46 why is my barbarian starting ring mail apparently worth only 1 AC 20:47 it didn't encumber me or anything 20:48 whats your dexterity 20:48 17 20:49 hmm 20:49 human? 20:49 dwa 20:51 dex shouldn't come into it, it was changing by 1 when I put on and removed it 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:31848 20:53 yes dex does play a part 20:54 when you're wearing metal armor, dexterity bonuses dont kick in 20:54 when you took it off, they then kicked in 20:54 dex 17 you get an ac bonus 20:55 see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Other_Changes 20:55 and wearing similarly rigid armor like bone or stone doesn't do this? 20:55 or glass or crystal 20:55 i gotta look, i've slept since then 20:56 i'm not going to make any changes or commits during june. only exceptions are to fix significant bugs/issues 20:59 so bone or stone, etc should be fine 21:00 only heavy metallic armor that negates dex bonus 21:00 i should probably tweak that 21:01 so yeah take advantage while you can hah 21:01 aosdict dragonbane still confers reflection even though its a spear now right? 21:01 (xnh) 21:01 in xnh? yeah haven't changed that 21:01 only when wielded as in vanilla 21:02 wait since when does my bar start with a pick-axe 21:02 I just found a shop and they went "leave it outside and I went "wait wtf where did this come from" 21:04 loooooooooooooooool 21:05 if you are a dorf, sometimes you can start with a pick-axe 21:05 regardless of role 21:07 o yeah 21:28 -!- Umpyre is now known as Umbire 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:34333 21:34 question, how accurate is the stuff on the evilhack page I wrote about nymph shopkeeper pricing? 21:34 there is a blue n shk but it just says "nymph shopkeeper" so I'm not sure if it's actually a water nymph 21:35 can Pratchet novels be potentially polymorphed into spellbooks? 21:37 it isnt 21:37 its just 'nymph' 21:37 oh actually it's a cyan n 21:37 so it's the regular nymph 21:37 of course I'm ugly as hell 21:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:44 !whereis aosdictj 21:44 K2: [hdf-us] aosdictj [evil]: (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) T:1295 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 21:45 ah yeah barbarian. good choice 21:45 i've been killing squishy archeologists in xnh 21:49 heh heh heh. I imagine my finger going squish squish on them 21:50 ;) 21:51 lol 21:52 I'm sitting in this big nymph owned ring shop price iding rings 21:52 never know when you'll need that info 21:52 of course will probably get kWTWOD'ed once I leave 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 472 points, T:1522, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 21:56 huh I thought evil added at least one ring (besides P'hul) but don't see any new ones in objects.c 21:59 nope just p'hul 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] ChrisJune (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:376 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] ChrisJune (Inf Ith Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:531 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] ChrisJune (Inf Ith Fem Una), 539 points, T:875, killed by a giant mosquito, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law), 172872 points, T:36063, decapitated by a shambling horror 22:13 :O 22:13 !lastgame elron 22:13 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1622402783.evil.html 22:16 damn 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 520 points, T:1471, zombified by a gnome zombie 22:21 feeling good after this ring shop, have regen, levitation, three other 200zm rings and a 300zm that isn't conflict 22:22 oh and two amulets one of which is guarding 22:22 should test the other for reflec once I have a beam wand 22:24 nice 22:24 does evilhack contain a way to get a non-hungry pet to eat something (floating eye corpse) 22:25 wait what 22:25 "Rocky catches the corpse. Rocky blinks a few times." 22:25 thank qt for that one 22:25 I guess the corpse just absorbed into him and he gained its power 22:25 pets will count corpses that can give intrinsics as a treat, so if you toss it, they'll eat it 22:26 I'm noting the lack of an eating message 22:26 hah 22:26 I should add this feature 22:26 yeah that just occurred to me 22:26 Well, Rocky caught it in his mouth and just ate it one gulp 22:26 rocky absorbed the corpse 22:26 poof esp 22:26 those evil eyes are pretty tiny 22:26 now, toss a black dragon corpse at him 22:28 lol I forgot the evilhack insulting shopkeeper 22:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 22:31 omg this guy has no chill 22:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:33 :) 22:33 zombies can be locked in a box to get rid of them right? 22:34 I think they got wind of my plan to start digging up graves with the pickaxe I apparently have 22:35 yes 22:36 yup 22:40 Yep 22:40 It's what I do 22:40 Or dip them in any nearby lava 22:41 my upper dungeon is short of lava 22:41 baw 22:41 Forges? 22:41 YANI: you can do some interaction with bringing zombie corpses to an altar to somehow set their soul free, which stops them respawning 22:42 I said it was short of lava 22:42 Didn't know if you included forges in that 22:42 for some reason 6_9 22:44 "The orc zombie bites Rocky. Rocky looks rather ill." so is this a death sentence for poor Rocky? 22:45 Yep 22:45 UNLESS 22:45 you can get it a eucalyptus leaf 22:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6099 22:46 fresh out of those 22:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 13508 points, T:6117, killed by an earth elemental 22:47 cure sickness spell is also directional. doesnt help you in this scenario, just fyi 22:48 suddenly I am consumed with the great injustice of this and realize that amateurhour's crusade for doggo bobble hats is righteous 22:51 heh 22:51 brb 22:53 whoa 22:53 +2 mithril dwarvish boots took me from AC 1 to 05 22:53 -5 22:54 aand rocky died 22:54 Mithril boots are pog as shit 22:54 I think you get the racial bonus too 22:54 suggestion K2: if the thing dying from its illness is a pet don't call it "it" in the message 22:55 ha 22:55 HAHAHAHA 22:55 my no-message wand is undead turning 22:55 ROCKY LIVES 22:55 * aosdict starts playing the Rocky theme music 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1069 points, T:2269, killed by a magic missile 23:03 K2: another suggestion: my dear pet shouldn't print "The dog corpse glows iridescently. The dog is resurrected!" 23:10 grrrrrr no typo guards against stepping into water 23:10 there go my scrolls 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 396 points, T:1341, zombified by a hobbit zombie 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 216 points, T:847, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted goblin 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 352 points, T:1127, zombified by a dwarf zombie