00:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 527 points, T:1164, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 00:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6368 points, T:6792, killed by a soldier ant 00:15 Team-a. :( There was nothing I could do. 00:15 !lastgame 00:15 arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1622346514.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SeamusMcRed/evilhack/dumplog/1622325082.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1622336282.evil.html 00:16 It really sucks when the God's angry with you as a chaotic. 00:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 20022 points, T:9806, killed by a leocrotta 01:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 01:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3058 01:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:25 -!- talkingleaf has joined #evilhack 03:25 -!- talkingleaf has left #evilhack 03:25 -!- talkingleaf has joined #evilhack 03:30 -!- talkingleaf has left #evilhack 04:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:49 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 452 points, T:1166, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:13 "peaceful pony, being ridden" and no way to see which monster is riding 05:13 ^ K2 possibly a bug? 05:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 444 points, T:1938, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnomish wizard 05:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3049 05:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1820 points, T:3053, killed by a mastodon 05:40 26 broken statues on this level. No kinder surprises. 05:41 Mind you, it's dlvl3, but was hoping for /one/. 06:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 827 points, T:2088, killed by an elven dagger 06:10 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:44359 06:24 > "tinklebear, killed by a crossbow bolt, while jumping around" 06:24 Odd. 06:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Pawn, on T:438 06:35 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 06:40 * tinklebear sees recent chatlog 06:42 the "while jumping around" epitaph message seems to show up predictably when you've recently jumped 06:44 tinklebear: I didn't see anything that could have meant that you've recently jumped, though. You had no spellbooks, didn't appear to be a wizard, and had no boots. Oh... A Pawn... Intrinsic jumping? 06:44 yep. 06:44 !whereis arahael 06:44 tinklebear: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:495 The Gnomish Mines level: 5 06:48 -!- VaderFLAG__ has joined #evilhack 06:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:52 -!- VaderFLAG_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:52 my survival expectation in the mines at that stage in the game was pretty bad, but (being iron-hating race) the quadruple-shot crossbow bolts from the gnome lady did not help at all 06:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:03 No, that would not have helped at all! Those quadruple-shot crossbows are insane. 07:15 "Yeah, thanks for shopping at Eed-Mora's hardware store." 07:15 lol 07:16 I like it when they add "Feel free to leave anytime" 07:22 I am level 30 and I've had 2 failed altar conversions in a row now 07:23 that must be very low odds 07:25 tinklebear: Likewise. :) 07:25 mobileuser: I've had 3 failed in a row, it's not that uncommon. 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:46253 07:34 arahael not at XP 30! 07:34 Fair point! 07:34 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sacrifice#Cross-aligned_altars 07:34 see the graph 07:35 -!- VaderFLAG__ is now known as VaderFLAG 07:36 msg nickserv regain VaderFLAG vader4libera 07:37 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 07:37 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (strontium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:37 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 07:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5060 points, T:2309, killed by a Green-elf 07:40 K2 fellow barbarians (NPC) always seem visible from far away... don't really understand why 07:45 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 07:47 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest6425 07:47 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as vaderflag 07:47 Geez all kinds of problems this morning 07:47 -!- vaderflag has quit [Client Quit] 07:48 -!- Guest6425 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:50 lowercase gang unite 07:55 idk it's kind of a downgrade for a vampire to become a fog cloud 07:56 barbarians nurture their gut feelings, amateurhour. it's a sort of telepathy. 07:56 between fellow gut-feelers 07:58 * tinklebear is embarrassed to finally reveal a longstanding personal confusion of amateurhour with mobileuser 07:59 lol 08:00 one of them is very funny, and the other one is some kind of savant. but which is which!? 08:00 lol 08:01 I am a savant?! 08:01 hopefully not the idiot flavor of savant 08:01 I also get confused with microlance sometimes :b 08:03 meanwhile, I have computed that if I keep altar camping for 2 weeks, I will receive Dragonbane 08:03 LIVE TO WIN, YEAH 08:03 * tinklebear points emphatically 08:03 see how confusing they are! 08:04 haha! 08:06 tinklebear: I have the same problem!!! 08:06 :D 08:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:18 I got mobileuser confused with microlance for a while haha 08:19 microuser! mobilelance! 08:19 Yeah, the problem I have is they both speak english, they both play nethack, they both chat on libera, they both... There are sooo many similarities! 08:19 I just check the length of a nick and the starting letter and use those in a hashmap in my brain 08:19 same problem with arahael and aosdict 08:20 you don't also hash the color of the nick? 08:20 I only recently lowered myself to enabling coloured nicks 08:20 amateurhour: Unfortunately in my case, I only display the first 6 characters of a nick! 08:20 (So they all have the same length - except for K2 and aoei!) 08:20 heh 08:21 so I just look like amateu? 08:21 amateurhour: You're actually "amateu+". 08:21 sounds exotic and interesting 08:22 And you're in cyan colour here, but I don't know if the colours are that consistent. 08:22 I could become "ao" 08:22 grabbed that nick when libera came online 08:22 or aos 08:24 I sorta wish everyone just stuck to their usual nicks 08:24 aosdict: Somehow, I've never confused you! 08:24 though I did grab rougelike just in case 08:25 You do have to actually use the alternates, to keep htem, I think. 08:28 -!- amateurhour is now known as rougelike 08:28 -!- rougelike is now known as amateurhour 08:28 good point 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:48744 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Law), 8085 points, T:6322, killed by an energy vortex 09:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 8282 points, T:7036, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:21 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 2851 points, T:3399, killed by a gnoll 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Arc Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a wet towel on an altar, on T:4588 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 558 points, T:1036, killed by a rock gnome 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5478 10:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1659 points, T:3616, killed by a hill orc 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 long sword on an altar, on T:4602 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Arc Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "bob", on T:6205 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:5013 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "Frost Brand", on T:208 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 80 points, T:214, killed by a wand 10:39 K2: my game just crashed. 10:39 I was just walking around. No farlook or anything 10:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1868 points, T:3323, poisoned by a gray fungus 10:47 K2 the only thing the ttyrec reports is extract_nobj: object lost 10:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 255 points, T:1109, killed by a sewer rat 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 1931 points, T:1844, killed by a warg, while sleeping 11:14 BBL, I'll check the irc log. Thanks for your help! 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Arc Hum Fem Law), 19607 points, T:12983, killed by an owlbear 11:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a glass heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4275 11:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:5118 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3801 points, T:2828, killed by a bolt of fire 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a weredemon, on T:49855 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:6759 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:4972 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:4976 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7370 points, T:5552, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while sleeping 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 181 points, T:215, killed by a bear trap 13:38 I wonder what I need to fireproof if I want to walk on lava. Would the Magic 8-bal melt? The unicorn horn and the towel burn? 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1155 points, T:3104, killed by a jaguar 13:46 !tell bouquet game recovered 13:46 No worries, K2, I've got this! 13:47 no coredump 13:47 it was an emergency save 13:47 these are in the paniclog: 13:47 1621797088 mobileuser: impossible dmonsfree: 3 removed doesn't match 4 pending on Dlvl:28 13:47 1621914470 bouquet: panic extract_nobj: object lost 13:47 mobileuser's one from earlier 13:47 bouquet i made a copy of your save so i'll try to recreate 13:48 sorry been away most of the weekend - it's just me and mini-me so i've been doing a fair amount of daddy/daughter time 13:49 humans be humaning 13:50 unforgivable 13:50 spending time with your family? 13:50 pshshshs 13:50 smh right? 13:50 tell the Ice Queen I says hi 13:51 hey K2 just give me global admin powers and I'll cover for you e z 13:51 nerp 13:52 I would only abuse it occasionally 13:53 well ok 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:50903 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1244 points, T:2602, killed by a giant mosquito 14:30 Backstabbing with both weapons while dual-wielding. "Evil" works both ways. 14:33 Relatedly, there is no "scare player" effect, is there? 14:34 (maybe would be better-called "scare hooman" or something like that) 14:37 ...because if the PC could be scared, then rogue NPCs could deliver a nasty surprise 14:40 fortunately it's not symmetrical :-) 14:41 not yet! 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:55703 14:44 that came close 14:44 but sword of Kas acquired 14:44 @e?Kas 14:44 Kas (V) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 16 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 70 | Generates: unique | AC: -5 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 14:45 that sword does huge damage 14:48 * tinklebear fails to figure out who tf Kas is 14:49 they're in the vecna branch 14:49 some right hand man to vecna 14:49 ah, cool. 14:49 former 14:49 lol 14:49 no, Kas betrayed Vecna ;-) 14:49 one of the loremasters is gonna turn up and explain the full backstory :P 14:50 * tinklebear was hoping so 14:50 The sword of Kas will do 4x damage against Vecna 14:51 speak softly and carry a big old sword 14:52 "I vant to paint the valls vith your blahd!" 14:53 mobileuser, 3x 14:53 3x vs vecna, 2x vs all other L and alhoons 14:54 https://greyhawk.fandom.com/wiki/Kas 14:54 ^ that's just one version 14:57 ah 3x 14:57 I'm thinking of skipping Vecna 14:58 me too lol 14:58 * tinklebear reads educational material kindly provided 14:58 K2 2 possible bugs in the backscroll 14:59 on top of whats already seen? 15:00 the invisible rider and the barbarian NPC's that seem to have NPC ones 15:01 the invisible rider is on level 4, bottom left should you want to see it 15:01 * that seem to have ESP 15:02 I am going to levelport there anyway now... 15:02 s/ESP/well-nourished gut feelings/ 15:06 "Wielding this sword confers stoning resistance ..." 15:06 um 15:06 Oh wow, the invisible rider woke up 15:07 mobileuser if you have esp, and another monster also has it, you'll see each other via esp 15:07 did that rider have esp? 15:07 yeah but do barbarian NPC's normally have ESP 15:07 no 15:07 it could have been from a worn piece of armor 15:08 it has happened twice now, but that could just be RNG 15:08 I'll keep an eye on it 15:08 ok 15:08 ok, I think I know what is happening with the invisible rider 15:08 monsters getting extrinsic telepathy from worn objects that confer esp is a thing in 0.7 15:08 it wasnt before 15:08 moving on to the invisible rider :-) 15:09 :P 15:09 it was a nymph that was asleep 15:09 the moment it woke up it became visible 15:09 sleeping in the saddle! 15:09 lol wut 15:09 before that, I could only see and stetho the horse 15:10 even if I blinded myself I couldn't see the nymph 15:10 "peaceful pony, being ridden" was all I could see 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51019 15:10 huh 15:11 i wonder... if the nymph, whilst sleeping, mounted the pony 15:11 what are the odds 15:11 sleep-horsing around 15:11 WHILST 15:11 \o/ 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:51191 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:51524 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 7720 points, T:5301, killed by a barrow wight 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 9723 points, T:10428, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted owlbear 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:51922 15:49 Grouchy 0.6 game? 15:51 K2 headed out... I was wondering if the sword of Kas can do some poison damage even against poison resistant creatures 15:53 K2 after save/reload I again get "pony, being ridden" :-) 15:53 no longer peaceful 15:53 time to kill it 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:55936 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:3090 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 244 points, T:389, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dingo 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful gray dragon, on T:52087 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful baby red dragon, on T:52088 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3138 points, T:3526, killed by an owlbear 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3335 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3925 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2596 points, T:4447, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:56335 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:56341 16:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:52655 16:48 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a steel thonged club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:9499 17:18 @e?baby yellow dragon 17:18 baby yellow dragon (D) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 3d8 bite physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 0d2 passive corrosion | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide 17:18 you can get that information ingame now as well by farlooking 17:18 Ye 17:18 it even works for shambling horrors now too 17:19 that's a BIG improvement 17:20 just wondering what a monster was in a recent game. not a baby yellow dragon, I guess. wrong AC. 17:21 @e?yellow dragon 17:21 yellow dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Attacks: 4d6 breath acid, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d2 passive corrosion | Alignment: 7 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 17:22 nope. not that either 17:25 me also considers that farlook won't be of much help while hallucinating 17:25 * tinklebear attempts Ali G impression 17:26 haha 17:26 was just mentioning it in case you had missed that update 17:26 it's pretty huge 17:28 it is cool. I think I stumbled on it by typo this morning or something. 17:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:33 K2 loving the sword of Kas! Quite a lot of instakills against non-poison res monsters 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu), 4368 points, T:5114, zombified by a dwarf zombie 17:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 13213 points, T:8254, killed by a watchman, while praying 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 510 points, T:1044, killed by a mountain dwarf 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:57896 17:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 11803 points, T:10505, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted goblin-captain 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3299 points, T:4388, killed by an invisible hallucinogen-distorted arch-lich 18:09 F 18:09 lol. maybe time for me to call it a day... 18:10 rip 18:10 a peaceful, sleeping revenant 18:18 the dead are restful 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 638 points, T:1159, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 67 points, T:335, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted small mimic 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:909 19:23 K2: Thank you! Back to D&D time. 19:23 bouquet: Message from K2 at 2021-05-30 13:46 EDT: game recovered 19:24 curious if I found another weird corner case bug or if it's something legit. 19:25 K2: ugh, went to start the game and it immediate crashed. I think the same deal. 19:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 19:35 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Gia Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:861 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Gia Fem Una), 1486 points, T:1431, killed by a bugbear 19:55 :( 19:58 bouquet at least this time I have a backtrace 19:59 https://0x0.st/-2yG.txt 20:00 shit 20:01 that sounds bad 20:03 this makes me sad 20:04 even if i knew what the fix was for this (I dont) i think i'd have to restore bouquet's game from an earlier state 20:06 bouquet i've restored your game from the backup save, it was less than an hour old from the emergency save 20:06 i tried loading your game in wizmode, crashed right way - can you tell me what level you were on? 20:07 and it was an object timer... 20:08 so did i scew something up with this commit? https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/17a64162c03e8d4a1834a482a735cef81c004d57 20:08 ^ that's from vanilla 20:08 but modified to fit evilhack 20:13 that "\000" is concerning. 20:21 oh you know what i think that fix for the monster removing corpses from icebox did cause this 20:22 in vanilla there's a define -> #define norevive oeroded2 20:23 in evilhack that same define is orotten, not norevive 20:23 in evilhack, norevive is defined as oeroded 20:24 why did that get switched?? 20:25 git blame 20:29 found it 20:29 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/820146609edb9a36efa156f63fb733c1abff1d36#diff-466893df259c4220cf7a4b3ede080ab1fdaf82e9e7a8279d75dca9a2c7876de3 20:29 ogmobot PR 20:30 ooh boy 20:30 so i think the simple fix without screwing about again in obj.h and possibliy breaking saves 20:31 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/17a64162c03e8d4a1834a482a735cef81c004d57#diff-9fc4c83dd5ec8bdd7c0ad234cb8cd6510b3569d6a8d2eeea41fe4e60742d03ccR2659 <--- change obj->norevive to obj-?orotten 20:31 -> 20:32 would need to change body->norevive to body->orotten in mkobj.c 20:32 meeeeeeh 20:32 hmm 20:33 i wonder what happens if i just switch things back in obj.h 20:33 i feel like i will break saves 20:34 idk enough about those flags but it annoys me that there's one with 2 at the end 20:34 aosdict, does what K2 said sound likely? 20:35 sorry, focusing on last minute jnh stuff 20:35 no worries, sorry to disturb 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3509 points, T:3026, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted pony 20:39 so does resting a wand of wishing still get me a wish? if it's blessed ? 20:39 wresting* 20:40 it's not guaranteed 20:40 but blessed is more chance 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29865 20:47 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:49 K2: I think there's an icebox on the level, actually. 20:49 want me to try loading it again? 20:50 Sorry that my icebox complaint caused a cascade failure into your game 21:10 bouquet you can load your game but i had to restore from a backup save 21:12 so making that switch back to the way those defines were does not break saves 21:13 but, any games already started, those defines are already set 21:13 ^ pretty sure 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:257, killed by a jackal 21:14 side topic - why does darkgrey look blue in curses mode 21:14 and was this ever fixed in 3.7 21:15 no, it wasnt 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1149 points, T:2714, killed by a wolf 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:31329 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31340 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:31358 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Mephistopheles, on T:31588 21:25 ok, thanks K2! I'm back at my stash so I'll try decending again. Should I save frequently or is the autosave thing doing that every level change? 21:28 save frequently 21:28 key milestones 21:30 thumbs up emoji 21:32 Argh unicorn horns don't remove withering anymore? 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1270 points, T:2015, killed by an orcish arrow 21:33 no 21:33 Frgjgjkjk 21:34 My fault I guess for not following patch notes...bet I die 21:36 I wonder what my prayer timeout is 21:36 krm26: It's one turn after you actualy pray. 21:37 ? 21:37 krm26: As in, however long you think it is and it's now safe to pray, you'll learn that you should've actually waited another few turns, but too late now! GAME OVER! 21:38 Phew, 8 hits and gone 21:39 oh shit i found my drawbridge bones 21:40 K2: happened again. Same level. There's a nymph glade there but nothing else special. 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Master, on T:31758 21:42 yeah that game is going to be plagued with that crash 21:42 i have a fix, testing it still 21:42 but it wont fix current game 21:43 :-( If it is any consolation for ruining your game my current game is an epic flustercluck 21:44 any game since that commit from 2 days ago is suspect :( 21:44 (if $user="bouquet"; game_state(sucks)) 21:44 Gotta kill those iceboxes before the nymphs get to them 21:44 it would happen if a corpse is removed from an ice box 21:45 no icebox on this level. THere was one level before, though 21:45 troll or zombie i think 21:45 do you know what was in that ice box? 21:46 game recovered btw 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:21459 21:47 F UUUUUUU C K 21:47 omigod kill me now 21:48 bouquet actually i have your backup save, checking 21:48 Why can't I just bring myself to commit suicide...shoulda done it 10k turns ago 21:49 krm26: Because you don't want to start a /good/ game until junethack. ;) 21:50 I don't really junethack -- nobody wants me stinking up their clan :-) 21:50 bouquet you remember which level that ice box was on? 21:52 ah krm26, don't worry about that (: junethack is fun 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 964 points, T:2025, killed by a hobbit zombie 21:54 oh i see it 21:55 1 or 2 levels up 21:56 i found it 21:56 i'm about 2000 turns in 21:56 no crash 21:56 this is on my patched copy 21:56 nice. 21:59 omg teleportitis sucks lol 22:03 !who 22:03 K2: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] krm26 [evil] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:03 Well I think I've progressed about as far as I'm going to using random daggers and a tooled horn with no reflection, no MR, no holy water... 22:04 rebatela krm26 tinklebear, all of you need to save real quick please 22:04 patch incoming 22:04 saved and out 22:04 Although if you break my game this time you'll be doing me a favor 22:04 hah 22:05 rebatela has been idle for almost half an hour 22:05 tinklebear is idel too 22:05 idle 22:06 rebatela 22:06 oh sorry 22:06 i will save 22:06 thanks 22:06 had to run to the packie 22:06 heh 22:06 just need tinklebear to look at chat now hah 22:06 Hook into the mail daemon code to deliver a scroll of shutdown now and boot people 22:07 i just found my bones from the exploding drawbridge. need to cancel the bag 22:07 krm26 genius 22:07 i was hoping for your valley bones, but these will do... 22:08 I always thought nicely ending people's sessions was a critical part of the operator tools for any of my games 22:08 tinklebear 22:10 K2: Me too? 22:10 Yep, I should save, too. 22:10 au server is patched 22:10 Aaaand I'm back up. :D 22:10 but yeah save/reload 22:10 Hi K2. should I save or something? 22:10 yes please 22:10 cool. thank you! 22:10 ok tinklebear all good 22:11 thanks 22:11 wheee 22:12 Reentry ok? 22:12 This makes me think of a good YASI: Whenever an admin feels the whim, they should be able to send a line of mailer daemons with a message. 22:12 yeah hdf-us all good 22:12 all can resume games 22:12 Worst game ever resumed 22:12 arahael there's an admin msg script that you can use to send a message to everyone playing 22:12 (per game type) 22:13 K2: Ah, it should be truely global, I think. All games. All players. All servers. 22:13 not every variant has that capability 22:13 "Suddenly, you notice a line of mailer daemons, they hand over a message!" "The message is from K2, it says..." "Pls Save & Quit." 22:13 i've used it on NAO before when we had to do a server reboot 22:14 only half the players playing listened 22:14 Seems that should result in a dire penalty. 22:14 krm26 :/ 22:14 A dog named Lucy. 22:14 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2472 22:14 krm26: Haha. :) 22:14 I've seen this pet-name... whose is it? 22:15 "You have a new message from K2. It says: PLS SAVE, NOOB" 22:15 Addition to materials patch: New bag, bag of homogenization. When a stackable "materiable" item is placed inside, any further items that would stack with it are converted to that material. To avoid too much exploitation it could also remove enchantment and fooproofing, also facilitating stacking 22:16 can i play? 22:16 yes i said that twice already 22:16 lol 22:16 Three times is the charm 22:16 k thanks. yeah it's not you it's me brah 22:16 krm26: That'll be great when I find dragonhide robes. :D 22:16 Robes aren't stackable 22:17 YET 22:17 Damn that. 22:17 Gonna put on my third cloak now... 22:18 K2: I've been having difficulty verifying my junethack account. :( 22:18 I'm sure it's because I'm australian... 22:21 for an zombie, karibou the elf zombie is very tidy. puts everything back in her bag as soon as she wakes up 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed karibou the elf zombie, and former Cutpurse, on T:2192 22:25 > The snake bites! The snake's bite was poisoned! The poison was deadly... 22:25 *sigh*. 22:25 Agggh, I want an altar so bad 22:25 Yeah random instakills from poison are very frustrating 22:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3013 points, T:2359, poisoned by a snake 22:28 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick#Patrick_banishes_all_snakes_from_Ireland 22:29 "At no time has there ever been any suggestion of snakes in Ireland, so [there was] nothing for St. Patrick to banish", says naturalist Nigel Monaghan, keeper of natural history at the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin, who has searched extensively through Irish fossil collections and records. 22:29 wasted genocide 22:29 Pretty sure Moses was never in Ireland. 22:33 I guess I need to go to the bottom of the mines and hope for the orc temple 22:33 arahael - you need to put # junethack in the nethack 3.4.3 rc cfg file on hdf-us 22:34 bhaak really needs to update the how-to for hardfought 22:34 K2: I believe I have, and yes, I eventually guessed that hdf-au doesn't work. I also learnt that I have to start a 3.4.3 game on hdf-us first, as well, and I have the line htere. 22:35 your username is Arahael not arahael 22:36 try that 22:36 K2: Ah! 22:36 its case sensitive 22:36 i've found my own bones 3 times in this game 22:36 I guess so - it's not case sensitive for ssh, though! 22:36 along with Arahael and tinklebear bones 22:37 K2: I' in! Sweet. :D 22:38 \o/ 22:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:38 K2: I actually did try the different capitalisation, but that was for teh .au server, I didn't try all the combinations for the us server. 22:39 when bhaak is around i'll ask him to edit the 'manage your accounts' section so it specifies using the hdf-us server for hardfought supported games 22:39 And also point out that it's case sensitive, very much unlike the ssh account. 22:40 yeah 22:40 I expect I can still play junethack on the .au server regardless, though? 22:40 I mean, these hurdles are just for registration... 22:47 yes 22:47 once you register, all 3 hdf servers are good to go 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 100 points, T:727, killed by kicking a wall 22:48 Sweet. 22:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1262 points, T:987, killed by a mountain dwarf 22:55 i can't seem to remember my junethack password 22:59 I wonder if it's possible for an infidel to ascend with the amulet (in celestrial disgrace). 23:02 double argh...normal mine's end 23:03 what is normal? 23:03 the mimic one is the worst imo 23:04 as far as loot goes 23:05 I'm just desperately trying to find an altar 23:06 Luckily this water elemental may make the whole thing moot for me 23:06 They are hornable outside of the planes, right? 23:10 is a dragonhide oilskin sack a good thing? 23:10 Um, as good as an oilskin sack, pretty much 23:10 Usually nothing will be trying to incinerate your bag 23:11 If the game let you wear a bag as a hat then it would be pretty good 23:12 hehe 23:14 bouquet: I've been told it's a good thing when you're on the plane of fire. 23:18 I'll hold onto it for the cachet 23:20 krm26: I'm nearly 50k turns into this game and haven't found ?oEA yet. 23:21 Nice! I'm 24k turns, no altar to convert, no MR, no reflection, junk weapons and armor, 2 cursed magic lamps to taunt me, no escape potions or scrolls 23:22 (Enchant armor is passé if you have dragonhide :- 23:23 If you drop your bag into lava, and your bag is fireproof, I imagine there might be something left to dig up. 23:23 so it seems to me. I have not done this. 23:23 That is true. On the other hand, if you drop your bag into lava, I bet your other issues are overwhelming 23:23 I have, however, been glad I fireproofed my saddle, for a very similar reason. 23:24 (yes, saddles are not as rare as all that, but still, it was nice) 23:24 Saddles are super-common in evilhack right now 23:24 With all the riding NPC changes 23:25 blessed ones with my buttsmell on them are not. 23:25 (which is fine, their rarity was weird) 23:25 blessed ones named THIS IS MY SADDLE etc. 23:26 "Invisible customers are not welcome!"... How things look from the inside of my pet dragon?! 23:26 and yeah, it's nice that finding them is not like getting a wand of enlightenment or whatever 23:27 lol, bouquet 23:27 So I've either got to keep pushing down searching 5 turns every step or ditch my cloak of displacement for a cursed cloak of magic resistance...sigh 23:28 MR is worth it. You can always pray away the curse 23:28 a twist on "use it or lose it". use it AND lose it. 23:30 will aprons protect from acid damage like from the Ice Queen? 23:31 Yup 23:31 I've never subdued her without an apron, Dragonbane, or yellow DSM 23:35 Sux that I can't dual-wield magic lamps 23:38 guess I'll hold onto this one. I like having dragons as pets too much to go for dragonsbane 23:39 They're plentiful in the endgame and they engulf like mad. Charm monster plus an army of dragons is awesome. 23:39 Does Dragonbane prevent dragon pets? 23:39 ya, they get angry 23:39 I had no idea 23:42 why don't you convert the minetown altar? scroll of earth? 23:43 Only priest 23:43 it's s new thing that dragonbane has the effect on pets (no more "black rain" if you have dragonbane) 23:43 i don't like to do it because i always play monk and i like to buy protection, but if it's really the only altar i convert it 23:44 especially w/ 2 lamps... 23:44 I'm not below dungeon level 12 so hope is not lost yet -- just have trouble descending because of my massive suckage 23:44 yeah there's probably an altar (or even a temple) 23:44 So little toolkit I can't even wish up a Frost Brand, NPC with it would definitely kill me :-) 23:44 i do the same thing man.. multiple lamps and can't bless. i know the feeling! 23:45 i have 7 death wands. this is getting pretty nuts. I think i'm gonna skip vecna i dunno 23:46 maybe try the rubber chicken? 23:46 What class? 23:47 human monk 23:47 A monk might have the damage output to be able to take Vecna -- it was impossible for my priest without the *trice 23:47 But I bet you don't 23:48 I bet you really have to use the Sword of Kas to get anywhere 23:48 i found my own bones a little while ago from an exploding drawbridge.. I already had armor kit but got couple markers and a couple wishes left 23:48 To my mind, genociding alhoons is *almost* mandatory 23:48 i wish i could digest tiger eye somehow (i want to eat increase damage rings, but it's not meant to be ) 23:49 i'm wearing an alhoon hat.... 23:49 it sucks as a monk when they drain you because you lose all the martial arts and spells 23:49 and it's basically a death sentence if you can't escape immediately 23:49 Isn't there something that eats gemstones? 23:49 i have Eota though so i can escape pretty easily 23:50 all the pretty gems are inedible 23:50 i love when increase damage is a metal one though 23:50 Xorns should be able to digest gemstones when hallucinating 23:50 haha right? 23:51 but this oilskin fedora suppoesdly blocks the alhoon attack 23:51 Not an oilskin elven helm? 23:51 i should have wished for that because you can go +7 yeah 23:51 but no i went with the fedora just to be fashionable 23:52 Too bad that is a material instead of a property, I'd go for a dragonhide elven helm of grease 23:52 yeah dragonhide +7 elven helm is the best. I wish helm of brilliance could be dragonhide 23:52 mithril is the best you can get with hob 23:52 blessed +7 dragonhide elven helm of drain resistance is decent 23:53 yep 23:53 I pretty much always use a dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance though 23:53 i noticed you have been rocking like bone shields? that's smart 23:53 I love bone 23:53 I *want* dragonbone, I mean COME ON 23:53 yeah i wished for telepathy this time but i usually would do drain resist shirt 23:53 Even with a -95AC Vecna will still thrash my ass 23:54 game needs a swap chest... i have so my shit i want to share lol 23:54 found my own bones 3 times 23:54 i'm gonna do something dumb i can tell 23:55 The swap chest is great... There should be a swap ice box for tengu and whatnot :-) 23:56 I'm still waiting for a sapient pearwood chest pet 23:56 hehe 23:56 wait have you ascended .7 yet? no right? 23:57 just mobileuesr and vaderflag i think? 23:57 Nope, I have ascended since the release, but it was an old game 23:57 I died my 0.7 attempt switching hats on the altar 23:57 yeah i watched 23:57 dude that was a great effort 23:58 just getting to that first altar when you were kiting death was awesome to watch! 23:58 That character (like this one) was a bit cursed 23:58 My universal problem is, shitty character, lots of attention paid, nurse them to the bitter end 23:58 bullshit you got the grand tour 23:58 I enjoy cursed characters (at least in vanilla). Makes it more interesting 23:58 Good character, stop paying attention, kill myself when I could easily ascend 23:59 the crap ones you're able to "put more of yourself into" 23:59 i'm not a fan of the helm of opposite alignment (don't tell luxidream!.. just kidding he knows) 23:59 I'm not either, I only brought one because my toon was so iffy 23:59 I usually don't take one with me 23:59 But ascending with no potions of healing, I mean...