00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an elven wizard, on T:5651 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 10815 points, T:5989, killed by a mountain centaur 00:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:58 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #evilhack 01:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Hello, 911? Yeah, it's caught in the window this time.] 01:58 -!- [1]sKep has joined #evilhack 01:58 -!- [1]sKep is now known as sKep 02:26 -!- sKep has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- sKep has joined #evilhack 03:15 -!- sKep has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:19 Yay, vorpal blade fixed. Thx K2! 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:77502 03:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 mithril lance of fire named numero dos", on T:77687 04:13 -!- laca has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:78255 04:27 nice 04:28 oh they aren't on here 04:34 Vorpal Blade decapitates the rust monster! \o/ 04:34 FIXED 04:34 -!- laca has joined #evilhack 04:37 oh was there a bug? 04:40 yeah, see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7f775899c3811e09d6de704f79e703c1d7bb4bc1 05:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a parchment spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:12014 05:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:14906 05:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:13046 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +5 dragonhide speed boots", on T:15395 05:56 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:29187 05:57 i think i'm going to geno gray dragons when i cna 05:57 can 05:58 tired of cancel culture 05:59 kinda sucks that dragonbane gets cancelled by them 05:59 tempted to try to wish for the eye even though neferet will whoop my butt. Maybe wish for it and abandon her and come back.. Problem is I just found bones with magicbane and mjolnir so that's 2 artifacts already 05:59 my friend suggested to give feminist role in slex an ability to cancel monsters 05:59 laca: Message from K2 at 2021-05-26 01:11 EDT: the fix is now live 05:59 lol 06:00 hehe 06:00 thanks 06:01 what happens to dragonbane? simply "disenchanters"? 06:01 when cancelled 06:01 nah monsters can cast it or use the wand 06:01 and gray dragons cancel you 06:02 so your armor and wands etc. all get canceled (some resist) 06:02 I agree that dragonbane should be immune to the gray dragons 06:02 amateurhour: They do? I thought that was a bug? 06:03 shoot I need to wish for dragonbane too. dammit 06:03 you're thinking of black dragons arahael 06:03 I guess I can put in the altar work. I've still never gotten it that way 06:03 for gray dragons and cancellation K2 said 'le shrug' when I brought it up a year ago :P 06:03 amateurhour: Ah, indeed. 06:04 i guess i will try to wish for dragonbane now and hope it doesn't slip through my hands 06:04 bah thank you for freeing me. F off 06:06 Annoying when that happens. 06:12 "Nobody believed her when she said her feet were killing her". (tombstone) 06:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 1112 points, T:1907, killed by a dingo 06:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 734 points, T:1563, killed by an enormous rat 06:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 58 points, T:110, killed by a newt 06:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:19457 06:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 2608 points, T:2799, killed by an ape 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:20054 06:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 518 points, T:1226, killed by a kitten 07:06 I melee'ed a baby grey dragon... It sometimes cancelled stuff, is it possible to have it curse my inventory? 07:06 Oh, crap. 07:06 > The gnome lord deliberately jumps onto a polymorph trap! 07:06 > The arch-lich touches you! The arch-lich casts a spell! 07:06 This can't be good. 07:07 hehe 07:07 rip 07:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!] 07:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:16482 07:08 Yeah, I think I'm probably going to be dead. 07:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4306 points, T:1958, killed by a touch of death 07:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:17274 07:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 739 points, T:1778, killed by a hill orc 07:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Inf Orc Fem Una), 242 points, T:921, killed by a jackal 07:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:19451 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74635 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74677 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:74899 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:75117 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75124 08:10 for gray dragons and cancellation K2 said 'le shrug' when I brought it up a year ago :P <--- you mean passive gray dragon attack affecting dragonbane? 08:18 yeha 08:18 yeehaw* 08:18 yeah* 08:19 for the record, i dont say 'le shrug' lol 08:19 i just go *shrug* 08:19 yeah, didn't mean it literally :P 08:19 hahah 08:19 but yeah i suppose it makes sense 08:20 not the french shrug for K2 08:20 if dragonbane is immune to black dragon passive attack, why isnt it for others 08:20 orange dragons! 08:20 exactly 08:20 mobileuser yay vorpal 08:20 yeah, thx again! :-) 08:20 o/ 08:20 I'm vorpalling like mad 08:20 now go forth and smite 08:20 heh 08:29 krm26 fighting the wizard... 08:30 phew he thought of Mjolnir in time 08:32 why mjolnir? 08:32 shock damage 08:32 mmm 08:32 wizard is not shock resistant 08:33 he doesn't have a lot of other options as priest 08:33 weird most of the end game stuff has shock resist but not the wizard of yendor 08:35 really? not many monsters actually have shock resistance. 08:35 i feel like mjollnir is pretty useless on astral 08:35 maybe i'm wrong. I never use it 08:36 in vanilla if a monster has shock resistnace it's just like a regular hammer and barely does any damage 08:37 true, on astral most things have shock res 08:38 then again, on astral I seldom actually fight monsters 08:39 @e?angel 08:39 Angel (A) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep shock poison magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 55 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile | Alignment: 12 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 08:39 what does chromatic scale mail do 08:39 @e?aligned priest 08:39 aligned priest (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 1d4 kick physical, 0d0 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 08:40 yeah mjollnir + astral doesnt really mix 08:40 fire brand on the other hand 08:40 or a weapon with the obj prop 08:40 rodney is only immune to fire and poison 08:40 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a0aa0d84393c66949001e4578c6f6a76a3e39ba5 08:41 ^ chromatic scale mail 08:41 thanks! 08:42 I am a wee bit sad that magical breathing was not included :-) 08:42 so how dd they get them as a priest? 08:42 kill Tiamat 08:42 and get lucky 08:43 oh Tiamat is no longer the caveperson quest nemesis 08:43 correct 08:43 she is one of the demon princes one can encounter 08:43 oh cool 08:43 that's a pretty badass item 08:43 krm26 got the chromatic dragon scale drop in his current game 08:44 gotcha 08:44 giants can wear it also 08:44 yeah i just read that. pretty sick 08:44 pretty rare to get 08:44 but having it frees up a few slots elsewhere 08:44 can you wish for it? 08:45 nerp 08:45 thought not 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 732 points, T:1574, killed by a bolt of cold 08:45 if you try, you'll just get another dragon scale instead 08:47 Can a priest use a trident? 08:47 In other words, does that count as edged? 08:48 i believe so 08:48 its a piercing weapon 08:48 So Angelslayer is a possible gift for a priest? 08:49 no trident skill in evilhack though? 08:49 nope 08:50 when I hit #enhance as monk it lists trident? 08:50 Oh weapon must be blunt 08:50 not for priests, they dont have any weapon skills that include pointy slashy weapons 08:50 for priests I meant rebatela 08:50 gotcha 08:50 tridents aren't pointy slashy weapons they're pointy poky weapons :^) 08:51 amateurhour if it was a possible gift, the skill would be unlocked 08:51 but ala 08:51 i'm going to play a different role after this game. I want to wear chromatic dragon scale mail 08:51 oh true! 08:56 I guess a priest could always wish for blunty weapon of fire 08:56 if you want to smash angels 08:58 oh sweet my 5th spellbok of detect food! 08:58 rng loves me today 08:59 i badly need polymorph 09:00 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:00 oh man vorpal blade was broken? 09:00 yes 09:00 So my Sunsword + Vorpal setup when Vecna killed me was triple jinxed 09:00 I was wondering why it wasn't going off 09:01 I was thinking about that yesterday 09:01 I had to *trice Vecna, couldn't put a dent in him any other way 09:01 but now we know :-( 09:01 I think cockatrice is definitely a smart way to go krm26 09:01 Is there a guaranteed c on that level? I don't remember seeing one 09:01 I'm trying a barb at the moment 09:01 could be a real pain to make it happen 09:02 I'm about to go to the planes with that toon, and I feel a sense of overriding doom -- was unable to get a decent number of HP, I'm going to die to damage 09:02 And a single wand of death with almost no charges 09:02 Sense of doom is good, it will dampen any overconfidence-related errors! 09:03 I'm debating whether to take off the Mitre for the ascension to prevent theft-related issues 09:03 Do flayers still exist in your game? 09:04 No, I've genocided the moon in this game 09:04 I would agree with bagging it if you hadn't 09:04 Otherwise, meh 09:05 Can ilithid NPCs suck? 09:06 I gotta say my least favorite variation is randomized order of elemental planes (I mean, it is a good idea and I support it, but I REALLY HATE not knowing what I'm gonna get) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:76317 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:76317 09:11 go go go go 09:11 Actually trying to win for new ascension combos makes me a lot more stressed than I normally in 09:11 am 09:13 AC:-63 is not too shabby 09:14 Unfortunately doesn't help when a couple of angels are showering you with missiles or whatever 09:14 I really prefer 200+ HP in evil, and some potions -- I have [0] healing except for my spells 09:15 Nervous enough to pack a Helm of Opposite Alignment, that's for sure 09:15 lack of FH potions is risky, agreed 09:15 I polyed my ass off to get them but no dice 09:15 I've got a tin of nurse meat 09:16 I forget, blessing reduces the turns to eat that, right? 09:16 still takes time to eat, even if blessed 09:16 can't use it when monsters are beating on you 09:16 blessed tins take a lot less time to open 09:17 yeah but still takes time 09:17 you can get interrupted 09:18 do you have any invis wands left? 09:18 or potions of invis? 09:18 Nope 09:18 argh, shame 09:19 My tooled horn isn't doing crap, ah well 09:19 yeah doesn't work against elementals 09:19 I can always amulet of life save my way across the plane :-) 09:19 heh 09:20 You'd think after 2 decades or more I'd remember whether to zap myself or my engulfer to get out 09:22 Oh god I hate vorpal jabberwocks 09:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5826 points, T:2797, killed by a giant leech 09:25 Good game, made a stupid mistake when I found myself in the sewers with a swarm of rats: I moved off the staircase, and forgot I had a scroll of taming. 09:25 Couldn't recover from that. 09:27 Never tried it, but I assume using earth on the plane of air accomplishes nothing? 09:27 never tried that... 09:28 The scroll has no effect on the Rogue level and the Elemental Planes (except the Plane of Earth) 09:28 (wiki) 09:29 good idea tho! 09:29 Just a little more luck and I can die on the astral plane 09:30 lol 09:30 you got this man 09:32 The amount of monster health in the planes now is just bonkerdoodles 09:34 I feel like after all my time playing I should understand something more about bubble movement than I do 09:34 I mostly just dick around until I end up on the eastern end of the map and then cross my fingers 09:34 i just rest until the portal comes around 09:35 i fight everything that comes next to me, but that's it. I don't think there's much you can do ? 09:35 if can cast magic mapping I do that a lot 09:35 at least then you know if you're getting close 09:36 Wait, magic mapping shows the portal on the planes? My senile brain tells me that has never worked because it is too easy 09:36 I must be mad 09:36 after you detect it 09:36 i think 09:36 first confused gold detection 09:36 yes 09:36 first detect, then magic map 09:36 but knowing where it is doens't really make a difference imo 09:36 I don't know 09:37 it feels like if I move to the right edges it goes faster 09:37 but I could be imagining that 09:37 right? i know what you mean though 09:37 OOh, after locating with confused gold, then mm reveals it again? I never considered that, that is AWESOME 09:37 heh 09:38 i've had it take so long that rodney shows up multiple times. sometimes it's quick 09:38 nice 09:39 Alright, I can die in peace now 09:48 Final pre-death question -- does prayer work on the astral plane? :-) 09:48 Very well! 09:48 Super useful thing that I almost always forget 09:49 krm26 oh yeah it does 09:49 F ME 09:49 Neutral altar, so I've lost 09:50 urgh 09:50 Guess I shouldn't have used my 1/3 shot at getting the chromatic dragon scale 09:51 you still have lifesaving 09:51 100 extra health isn't gonna do it 09:51 wont know until you try 09:52 I haven't used taming in a long time on astral but I remember it doing something -- not this time 09:54 confused taming has a very large range 09:55 A very large range of no effect isn't that much better than a small range of no effect 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an Angel of Athena), on T:76617 09:56 it's not over till it's over 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an Angel of Hermes), on T:76646 10:01 lawful 10:01 oh man 10:01 Doh 10:01 Killed changing hats 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2954746 points, T:76653, killed by the human high priestess of Athena (with the Amulet), while disrobing 10:01 :( 10:01 rip :-( 10:01 good effort man 10:02 couldn't catch a break with the grand tour. F 10:03 Could have brought a few more life saving with me I guess, I normally don't use those 10:03 valiant effort 10:03 Then again I normally have some potions 10:04 I still don't regret burning my entire wand of wishes on Dragonbane! 10:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Now if you will excuse me, I have a giant ball of oil to throw out my window] 10:08 What's wrong with me? Can't find the race-role first ascension board on nethackscoreboard 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 274 points, T:1077, killed by a large mimic 10:09 https://nethackscoreboard.org/firstasc.evil.html krm 10:10 Thx -- is that not linked anywhere from the main page? 10:10 it is, it's 'First To Ascend' on front page 10:10 top right, next to About 10:11 you didn't take off your ring of conflict when you entered the temple :-( 10:11 Hey, you're right 10:11 shit 10:11 excuse me 10:11 I was nervous about extra turns for anything given my low health but it was probably a better choice than just toughing out the gear change 10:12 yeah, time was running out anyway... 10:12 I see, the First to Ascend link is only on the home page, not on the other displays 10:12 yeah it's a bit strange 10:13 i brought that quirk up a long time ago 10:13 aoei should fix it 10:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:39 aoei is Employed now 10:39 the big leagues 10:39 no more time for us little people 10:43 we were just a stepping stone 10:43 no, a door mat 10:54 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:09 -!- Umbire is now known as Umpyre 11:09 -!- Umpyre is now known as Umbire 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1114 points, T:1102, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping off a magical draught 12:09 man... careful what you wish for. All I wanted was to find poly wand and something zapped it at me and i lost all my armor (robe, dragonhide speedboots etc). forgot to switch back to cloak of mr 12:10 at least i can polypile ! 12:22 K2: pssssst 12:22 If I remember, you made the lesser homunculus a role's starting pet, right? 12:22 Was it the Infidel or 12:22 infidel 12:23 Right 12:24 And can lesser homunculi grow up into regular ones? 12:24 yes, three stages 12:24 lesser/normal (just homunculus)/greater 12:25 Right 12:25 I've not seen other stages show up in my playthroughs yet 12:25 so wanted to be sure 12:25 ty 12:26 o/ 12:27 more questions to come soon since I'm resuming the nhtohtml editing 12:27 k 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 159783 points, T:24280, killed by a gray dragon 12:43 :c 12:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Umbyre))] 12:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 546 points, T:1500, killed by a rabid dog 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 171 points, T:771, killed by a small mimic 13:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3844 14:24 -!- Umbire is now known as AdeonSmellz 14:24 -!- AdeonSmellz is now known as Umbire 14:27 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 171 points, T:740, killed by a giant rat 14:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 446 points, T:559, killed by a giant mimic 14:53 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 259 points, T:540, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 15:01 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #evilhack 15:06 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 624 points, T:1836, killed by a rothe, while sleeping 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:32723 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:32737 15:44 hopefully that moves vorpy or sunsword up the list! 15:45 ...aren't those chaotic artifacts 15:45 but you're neutral 15:45 yeah 15:45 And isn't Sunsword lawful? 15:46 Only Vorpy is neutral 15:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 360 points, T:605, killed by a gnoll hunter 15:47 -!- nabru is now known as coca-cola 15:47 does the god not gift differently aligned artifacts in evilhack? 15:48 in vanilla they can after the first iirc? 15:48 oh? 15:48 If so I've not seen it 15:48 -!- coca-cola is now known as nabru 15:48 I don't usually camp altar beyond first gift, so might just be remembering wiki wrong 15:48 Might be thinking of the fact that guaranteed first gifts have their alignment adjusted if necessary 15:48 e.g. Magicbane for a chaotic Wiz 15:49 ah you know what I'm remembering 15:49 Mjolnir for a lawful Valk 15:49 etc. 15:49 "Once a co-aligned artifact has already been given, or if none were able to be given, then unaligned ones also become eligible" 15:49 I need to do dishes, but people are wrong on the internet 15:49 Ah 15:49 I misremembered unaligned as any alignment 15:49 yeah the unaligned ones 15:49 like DRAGONBANE :-) 15:50 dragonbanehack \o/ 15:50 and now... DISHES 16:02 gonna leave work and mow my lawn. out for a bit 16:02 Be well 16:03 you kids get off K2's lawn! 16:03 no 16:03 lol 16:20 next time I will geno shocking sphere if I get lucky with a throne 16:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:08 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 17:12 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:12 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:24 -!- laca has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 986 points, T:2432, killed by a giant mosquito 17:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:51 T:34510 my first lantern \o/ 17:51 let there be light 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:00 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #evilhack 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:11553 19:05 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day] 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:13382 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:13554 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 23540 points, T:15025, killed by a hill giant shaman 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 703 points, T:1507, killed by a ball of cold 21:33 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 22:08 -!- mode/Hecubus [+RZi] by Hecubus 22:08 -!- mode/Hecubus [-R] by Hecubus 22:08 -!- lithium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.7.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 22:09 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 22:14 !who 22:14 K2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:39 qt before i forget: awhile ago I changed healer attributes so they didnt start with poison res, they get it at exp level 3 instead (see attrib.c line 45). however, if you roll up a healer, they still start with poison res. i'm at a loss as to where that's being applied still. any ideas? 22:39 i searched 22:39 nada 22:43 i think it's bc the healer permonst has poison res in monst.c 22:43 just remove that 22:43 ? 22:44 it looks like that works 22:44 healer player monsters should already get poison res a different way in init_mplayer_erac(mplayer.c), rather than through the permonst stuff, so I don't think you need to worry about that... 22:46 oooh shit lol 22:46 LOL 22:46 that was it! 22:46 \o/ 22:46 i never thought to look there 22:47 i kept grepping for PM_HEALER 22:47 or HPoison_resistance 23:00 hmm i just noticed something 23:00 different thing 23:00 giant infidel gets crowned 23:00 turns into a demon 23:00 PM_DEMON is MZ_MEDIUM 23:01 after crowning they still cant wear body armor, etc 23:02 which isnt a bad thing 23:02 BUT 23:02 two-handed weapons arent one-handed wield anymore 23:02 hmm 23:09 your permonst changes and is no longer a giant, right? 23:09 so that makes sense to me 23:11 right 23:12 so this begs the question - should a giant infidel that's crowned become a giant demon? or shrink down to a normal sized demon 23:12 because if its the latter, playing as a giant infidel, you'd want to get crowned asap so you could wear body armor and cloaks 23:14 if you have a boulder in inventory when crowned, you immediately become overtaxed hah 23:15 hmm so.. as it currently stands, you lose all of the characteristics that makes you a giant (good and bad), except that you still cant wear body armor/cloak/t-shirt 23:16 flavor-wise it makes sense that they shrink down 23:19 ah i think i see it 23:21 oh you still can't wear body armor... huh that is weird 23:21 oh my laptop is going to die... good night 23:21 Night 23:21 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 23:21 There's demons too big for body armor I think, so 23:22