00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:14651 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 23412 points, T:15038, killed by a mumak 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16154 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:18127 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:7064 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7432 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 26579 points, T:7512, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:50 @e?disenchanter 02:50 disenchanter (R) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -10 | Attacks: 4d4 claw disenchant, 0d0 passive disenchant | Alignment: -3 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 02:50 @e?rust monster 02:50 rust monster (R) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 0d0 touch rust, 0d0 touch rust, 0d0 passive rust | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, swims, metallivore, infravisible 02:51 @e?vampire 02:51 vampire (V) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 1 | Attacks: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 bite level drain | Alignment: -8 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 02:52 @e?alhoon 02:52 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravisible 02:52 Someone at the castle? 02:53 I still don't know what "5d7 tentacle decay" is supposed to do 02:53 That's what I saw on a shambling horror 02:54 My guesses are "withering" and "destroying armor" 02:54 60/40 former 02:54 @e?giant mummy 02:54 giant mummy (M) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 3d4 claw wither, 3d4 claw knockback | Alignment: -7 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous 02:55 Ah, so that has its own thing 02:56 Probably armor-destroying then 02:58 shoot-on-sight instead of melee then :-) 02:58 Sounds like the play with most horrors I'd imagine 03:03 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:09 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 03:12 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:15 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:58 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2176 points, T:2309, killed by a boiling potion 04:02 K2: Killed a bones zombie, didn't get a livelog 04:02 Might've been because I shoved them in a box and went back to the floor they'd been on 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 224 points, T:691, killed by Ms. Ennistymon; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 04:14 how did you shove them in a box without killing them? 04:14 Oh no I killed them, that's the thing 04:14 Then I shoved them in a box so there'd be no res 04:15 Thing is they've long since rotted away but no notif 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2173 points, T:2302, poisoned by a soldier ant 04:55 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3135 points, T:4326, killed by an ancient pseudodragon 05:10 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1458 05:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7233 05:19 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3289 points, T:2159, zombified by an elf zombie 05:21 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 54 points, T:160, killed by a goblin, while reading a book 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1265 points, T:1138, killed by a jellyfish 05:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1461 points, T:2054, killed by a piranha 06:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:46 major "doh" moment 06:46 I just realised that I can use the bell of opening to get my claws on the WoW 06:46 oh yeah 06:47 haha 06:47 back to stash to retrieve it... 07:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7 points, T:103, killed by a water moccasin 07:23 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 07:53 T:50419 nobody with a wand of digging yet, it's spooky 08:20 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:47443 08:27 !tell Umbire K2: Killed a bones zombie, didn't get a livelog - thanks, looking into it 08:27 Will do, K2! 08:28 K2: I've noticed we can't jump into shallow water. interesting 08:28 jump in the puddles yeah? 08:29 thats right. 08:31 channel your inner kid 08:32 EPI: if you jump in shallow water your invent gets wet 08:35 jumping into shallow water seems to work for me 08:35 K2 illithid priests don't show up from a distance like other ESP-capable creatures like wizards etc., is that intentional? 08:35 that's probably my fault mobileuser 08:35 :-) 08:36 oh... yeah that should be an easy fix 08:36 if in doubt blame aqtdict 08:36 except high priests maybe? 08:36 aqtdicteurhour 08:36 (astral plane) 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1894 points, T:2386, killed by a giant beetle 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 63 points, T:159, killed by a burning book 08:40 how does jumping into shallow water not work? 08:51 K2: I think this will fix the "detect infidel priest via telepathy" thing https://termbin.com/mab4 08:52 this does not exclude high priests 08:52 cool 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1349 points, T:1852, killed by an invisible gnome lord 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 47 points, T:265, killed by a boiling potion 08:57 ugh I got my second COVID shot two days ago and I still feel crappy 08:58 i thought it would go away after a day 09:00 wondering where ya were this weekend 09:00 by tomorrow you should feel better 09:01 fingers crossed 09:02 and i can confirm, i can also jump directly into a shallow water spot 09:02 same for sewage 09:13 perhaps you were burdened or hungry Arahael? 09:13 or wounded legs 09:14 hmm. odd. it's possible i was burdened, but probably very nearly so. it was also a knight's move. 09:14 i was an illihid, too, the jump was by spell. anyway, g'night.> 09:15 goodnight 09:15 knight's move is only possible for knight.. good night! 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:48893 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3342 09:38 isn't the knight's move within the normal legal range of jumping? 09:40 hmm good point... 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided sea dragons, on T:48939 09:41 can you jump from shallow water? 09:42 I was wondering the same 09:45 yes 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:49274 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:49275 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:49275 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:49276 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4661 points, T:4578, killed by a dust vortex 09:57 did krm get them or were they scammed 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1834 points, T:4289, killed by a giant mosquito 10:05 dunno 10:05 ah he got it 10:05 4th wish did the trick 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:50653 10:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:52281 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 784 points, T:1858, poisoned by a kobold zombie 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 427 points, T:987, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 4920 points, T:7692, quit 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 1909 points, T:2654, killed by an air elemental of Brigit 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 393 points, T:1848, killed by a rabid rat 13:17 T:51458 wand of digging! \o/ 13:18 \o/ 13:19 yay! 13:22 and f - a wand of wishing (0:3) finally! 13:22 much rejoicing 13:23 \o/ \o/ \o/ 13:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) made his first wish - "cursed +2 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of telepathy", on T:51593 13:27 The design features tropical fish on a naturalistic background. 13:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:51595 13:34 wewp 13:34 my current game, i had learned the spell 'knock' but forgot it by the time i needed it 13:34 couldnt open any of the chests in Kathryn's throne room 13:35 and the castle WoW was also in a crystal chest 13:35 luckily i found the same spellbook whilst clearing out part of the VotD 13:35 WHILST 13:40 phew! :-) 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1384 points, T:1623, killed by a gnome lord 13:52 you'd have gotten wand of opening in the valley anyway presumably 14:13 my own problem was that I still don't have a stethescope and I forgot about bell of opening 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1997 points, T:2403, killed by a watch captain 14:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:37 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 14:41 Yay Tim the Enchanter left me magic missile 14:42 There are some who call me... Tim? 14:43 Geetings, Tim the Enchanter! 14:43 Greetings* damn it 14:44 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 14:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:52482 14:46 "The Abominable Snowman's corpse ends up buried." =D 14:56 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 916 points, T:823, killed by a mountain dwarf 15:01 ok, I've got 1 more turn to get out of this gelcube. No digging wands/spell. 15:01 I could polymorph it maybe? 15:18 yes 15:18 that can work 15:20 here goes nothing... 15:23 worked 15:24 yay 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22609 15:29 22k turns into this game and not a single, blindfold, towel, or unicorn. 15:30 and right as I typed that a unicorn appeared 15:32 Is there a reason my Green Dragon pet stopped using its breath weapon? It hasn't used it for a long time. 15:34 maybe it got cancelled 15:34 if so, you should hear it coughing 15:34 gotch 15:34 a 15:35 I wonder if unskilled fireball works better against liches than skilled 15:35 they seem to resist skilled fireballs better 15:40 my current game, my dorf wizard took out the ice queen in three turns 15:40 fireball zap zap zappy zap 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3492 15:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) had a conical hat entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:52831 15:44 hmm a cornuthaum for a non-wizard 15:45 style points 15:45 actively harmful :b 15:47 oh well, file under "god's weird sense of humour" 15:48 i just had a thought 15:49 demons typically have horns on their head yeah? 15:49 you ever see a demon wearing a hat? I havent 15:50 enforced hatless conduct for demons!!1 15:50 enjoy being flayed :) 15:53 hah 15:58 K2 it clearly depends on the positioning and the angle of the horns 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 466 points, T:513, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Umbire's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:4943 16:16 K2: you need to hook up with the person in #nethack-variants who keeps talking about their horn-based variant plans 16:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:17 no, no he does not 16:17 please don't throw any more brainpower at that guy 16:23 lol you're just sweating cuz they're gonna get a full limb system and hub world before u 16:24 lol 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 318 points, T:432, killed by a gnome lady 16:36 right, time for a science experiment 16:36 SCIENCE \o/ 16:36 ice nymph and eucalyptus 16:39 ice nymph is not picking up the eucalyptus 16:39 FAIL 16:40 how do people feel about the way intelligent pets put stuff in sacks 16:40 is it annoying that they get bogged down with random armor and stuff, or is it useful because you can give them things and make them carry your stuff 16:42 do they also randomly take stuff out of the bag and then drop stuff? 16:43 no I don't think they do 16:43 once it's stashed they will tote it around until you take the sack from them and dump it yourself 16:43 giving them a BoH could be useful in that case 16:44 I am thinking about submitting a patch to refine the rules for what things they will stash in a sack. so they don't end up carrying 30 orcish helms or whatever 16:44 I almost had a heart attack when a mob picked up my weapon and it wasn't there when I killed it. It stuffed it in a bag! 16:44 heh :-) 16:44 make sure to account for cursed bags of holding. Do they stash thing in them or what? 16:45 bouquet: not sure, I'll test it. that would be pretty annoying you're right 16:45 well, they won't pick up cursed items will they? 16:45 i guess an enemy monster might 16:46 pets do get stuff cursed when fighting spellcasting monsters 16:46 will they knowingly put a wand of cancellation in a boh? That would be fun to see 16:46 "The dwarf opens the bag... BOOM!!" 16:46 an intelligent pet will read remove curse 16:47 it looks like they do stash things in a cursed bag of holding 16:47 I think in vanilla 3.7 they don't 16:49 the pet stashing things in bags behavior comes from vanilla? I didn't know that 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5914 points, T:5347, poisoned by an orcish arrow 16:54 no, monsters looting containers 16:55 in vanilla 3.7 they avoid looting cursed BoH 16:59 they won't put an item into a bag if it would explode it 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 35333 points, T:11753, killed by an ape 17:07 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:23 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 3494 points, T:4433, killed by a warg 17:33 K2: here's my attempt at a monster bag stashing patch https://termbin.com/9lz6 17:33 prevents your pets from stashing things in a cursed bag of holding, prevents them stashing junk armor from the ground unless they have a blessed bag of holding, prevents them from stashing rocks (flint stones, etc) 17:41 hmm I found a bug. racial giants on Astral (mplayers, etc) spawn with armor. they don't wear it but they are generated with it 17:47 qt do you know what a "tentacle decay" attack does? 17:47 hmm, idk 17:47 where is that coming from? the pokedex? 17:48 yeah when I examine my shambling horror 17:48 maybe it's supposed to be "attacks: tentacle, decay" but somehow got formatted as "tentacle decay"? 17:48 1 moment... 17:48 "5d7 tentacle decay" 17:49 as one of the attacks 17:49 huh 17:49 yeah I have no clue, sorry 17:49 the mystery continues :-) 17:51 "You crush the ogre's skull!" heh 17:53 K2: I think the giants getting armor is happening in mk_mplayer, something like this might fix it? https://termbin.com/lddr 17:55 I don't know whether you want to give giants improved gloves/shield or something like that 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:57 Standard mplayer shit after racial monsters are made? 17:57 Umbire: Message from K2 at 2021-05-17 08:27 EDT: K2: Killed a bones zombie, didn't get a livelog - thanks, looking into it 17:57 Or before 17:57 what do you mean by "racial monsters are made" Umbire? 17:58 You know how you have giant soldiers and centaur sergeants and stuff, right? 17:58 mk_mplayer calls makemon, which applies the race to the monster. then at that point, once the monster is made and has a race it gets some special armor and items as its "endgame kit" -- but this part didn't account for race 17:58 that's the problem basically 17:58 yes, that's what I was driving at 17:58 but with more words 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2069 points, T:2541, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:33 qt, thanks 18:33 the monsters looting/stashing in containers stuff comes from grunthack 18:33 vanilla didnt add that kind of behavior until recently with 3.7, and its watered down 18:34 its not nearly as involved 18:39 hah, evilhack was mentioned in a vanilla commit - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2288452278ecc1ba7a12fe66f775cd4d7b759f34 18:40 they borrowed some of evil's brain cells 18:40 brb gonna play clue. my kid will probably destroy me at this game too 18:41 wow, you're famous 18:42 next feature to be taken from evilhack: readable hawaiian shirts ;) 18:42 "infamous" 18:43 see: The Three Amigos 19:05 i won! 19:05 \o/ 19:05 Mr. Green in the ballroom with the lead pipe! 19:08 qt did you notice? your tiamat encyclopedia entry suggestion made it in 19:09 nice, I didn't see that 19:20 ninja post 19:26 k2 I wonder if the thresholds in givit for the different adjectives should be adjusted, I can't seem to get anything but "slightly", "a bit" and "significantly" 19:27 I guess it doesn't really matter very much, but it seems like a shame that so many of those nice words are going unused :) 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Hum Mal Una), 374 points, T:779, killed by a falling rock 19:29 hmm yeah 19:29 I really should have looked at the range of corpse weights in the game when I came up with the numbers 19:30 instead of pulling them completely out of thin air, which is what I did 19:30 lol 19:30 the % conferred is based on weight 19:31 ah 19:31 i was typing and forgot to hit enter 19:31 hahah 19:31 i've seen 5, 8, 10, 17, 50% 19:31 cant recall whats in between 17 and 50 19:31 i'm sure there's something 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Gia Mal Una), 360 points, T:794, zombified by a kobold zombie, while praying 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 689 points, T:925, killed by a hobgoblin 19:52 qt hows this? - https://termbin.com/zel1y 19:52 brb food 19:53 I would put the 'mon->mnum != PM_HIGH_PRIEST' bit in tp_sensemon so that you disable only the 'ESP monster detection' part without disabling any other benefits of ESP 19:53 that's in display.h 19:58 something like this https://termbin.com/pnjd 19:59 but I think the way you did it is totally fine if you don't mind disabling all high priest telepathy, entirely 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2099 points, T:1963, killed by a wand, while frozen by a potion 20:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 232 points, T:488, killed by a brown mold 20:21 qt good call 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 402 points, T:381, killed by Ms. Pakka Pakka; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 362 points, T:558, killed by a mountain dwarf 20:43 qt, i've committed all three code changes you've suggested today 20:43 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:43 havent pushed yet 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 310 points, T:924, killed by a rock gnome 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 118 points, T:354, killed by a wand 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 269 points, T:752, killed by an exploding wand 21:14 wooo congrats K2 on getting a feature into vanilla 21:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:29 heh 21:29 technically it's from sporkhack 21:30 i think i had modified it some, and then paxed modified it further 21:30 i'm just happy to get a mention 21:31 -!- Not-78b7 has joined #evilhack 21:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±9] https://git.io/JsEFD 21:31 [EvilHack] k21971 41e2d07 - Fix: Illithid player monsters were not being sensed via telepathy. 21:31 [EvilHack] k21971 f626a3c - Fix: player monster giants and centaurs spawning with armor they can't use. 21:31 [EvilHack] k21971 720562f - More adjustments to what intelligent monsters stash in containers. 21:31 I found a chest in a chest on this run, which surprised me 21:31 hrm 21:32 someone else said they found a chest in an iron safe? or was it the other way around? 21:32 i need to have a look in mkobj.c i think 21:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38 did you do anything that makes it so that tools can gen inside containers? 21:39 i'm looking 21:40 starting in mkbox_cnts() 21:42 hmm not there 21:43 struct boxiprobs does not have tool class in it 21:43 hmm 21:44 i wonder if monsters are stashing containers into other containers 21:45 Robin, to the wizmodemobile! 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 7535 points, T:8180, zombified by a gnoll witherling 21:47 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 21:48 they dont as far as i can tell 21:48 game wont let you fit a chest/box into another chest/box 21:49 qt, you see anything that would allow a chest to form inside another chest or like container? 21:55 boxiprobs was my guess, but evidently not 21:56 i dbl-checked to make sure i'm not crazy 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:53277 21:56 or... maybe players are just messing with me 21:57 It happened -- sorry I wasn't paying more attention to the exact circumstances. Think it was on the box-ridden middle Priest quest level 21:58 And the chest in a chest had contents 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:53308 22:01 hmm... i'm currently at a loss 22:05 I was looking for that when it was first reported and I couldn't find it 22:06 i dont see anything weird in add_to_container either 22:06 krm26's description, it wouldn't have been a monster stashing it 22:06 I am 90% confident it was within a locked box 22:07 Next time it happens I will be paying careful attention 22:07 (although I play a fair amount and have never seen it before :-) 22:09 argh alhoon 22:09 Is the Vecna-branch guaranteed to be on the first level of Gehennom? Or just the first few? 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 77 points, T:335, killed by a falling rock 22:10 should have wished for a can of goddamn grease 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Hum Mal Cha), 1748 points, T:2734, killed by a wolf 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 146 points, T:796, killed by a brown mold 22:14 1st level krm26 22:14 krm26 instead of grease, go for an 'oilskin cloth elven helm' 22:15 or fedora, depending on how you want to accessorize 22:16 I'm wearing my damn Mitre now that my quest leader has graciously not killed me 22:17 wait, "oilskin cloth"? not oilskin dragonhide elven helm? Isn't oilskin a property, not a material? 22:17 dear jounal... 30k turns and still no eye coverings. RNG hates me. Sincerely, bouquet. 22:18 oilskin is an object property in evilhack (as well as grunthack, dynahack and maybe fiqhack) 22:18 (so many useless sword artifacts in my game that I blew my entire wand getting Dragonbane tho :-) 22:18 Right, so you'd probably want a dragonskin elven helm, not a cloth elven helm 22:18 oilskin can only work on cloth armor pieces 22:18 OH 22:18 I did not know that 22:18 That kinda blows 22:18 well that's how oilskin works 22:19 thats why the oilskin cloak in vanilla is made of cloth 22:19 Well, once you have PVC in nethack, I wouldn't worry about logic too much :-) 22:19 in real life, it *has* to be 22:19 hah 22:19 You can actually impregnate leather with gum or wax too 22:19 Depends on the grain 22:20 If you wanna get technical then give me dragonhide shields, you can definitely make those (primarily) out of leather :-) 22:20 traditionally its made of sailcloth 22:21 Hey, if you are an elf, and free action is iron, is there an alternative? 22:21 (oilskin items) 22:21 nope 22:21 THAT is just awful 22:22 Kinda makes me wish that dwarves were harmed by wood, gnomes were harmed by...bone?...etc, one random ring screw per race 22:23 Evil but even-handed 22:23 evil-handed 22:23 evil-evil 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 458 points, T:1946, killed by a boiling potion 22:26 in my recent game slow digestion was gold so leprechauns kept stealing it 22:27 I've died to a gold "MR, stupid leprechuans 22:28 qt same. 22:29 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3639 points, T:2605, quit 22:31 Does cancelling a gray dragon stop their weapon-enchantment-cancelling? 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Ith Mal Una), 692 points, T:1160, killed by a bolt of cold 22:35 cancelling a gray dragon is like uno reverse card 22:42 Ugh Vecna's lair is STOCKED 22:43 There must be 500 undead and demons here 22:43 I don't know that I have the intestinal fortitude for that 22:54 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 3753 points, T:2417, killed by a giant leech, while praying 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 stone gauntlets of power", on T:2339 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:32672 23:56 Odd. I've got BUC-identified wands: 23:56 uncursed wand of magic missile; wand of sleep (0:3); uncursed wand of striking. 23:56 Why is the sleep not marked as 'uncursed'? Odd. 23:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2011 points, T:1913, killed by a small mimic 23:58 Back to work!