00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu) stole 60 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Bnowr Falr's hardware store, on T:5051 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu), 10628 points, T:5054, killed by Mr. Bnowr Falr; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 01:15 Woah crystal plate mail on dlvl 1. 01:15 Cursed, but still. 01:16 Only -1, not bad at all. 01:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 786 points, T:1097, killed by a rabid dog, while praying 01:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:08 MSGTYPE=hide "Your sting passes harmlessly through *" 05:08 That nicely hides a lot of spam 05:13 never encountered that message 05:17 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: stuff] 05:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 06:15 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 06:22 "peaceful illithid priest of Moloch" lol 07:02 [backscroll] 21:55 there are sound queue's if you're on the right level 07:03 Nice, polite, British sounds in evilhack 07:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:14 -!- mobileuser87 has joined #evilhack 07:16 -!- mobileuser87 has left #evilhack 07:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:36 !source 07:36 cccrow: https://github.com/k21971/EvilBot 07:37 !who 07:37 cccrow: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 07:57 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hum Mal Cha), 794 points, T:2165, killed by a bolt of fire 08:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:51908 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:51917 08:15 mobileuser you gonna take on vecna? 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Inf Hum Mal Una), 490 points, T:1931, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 08:18 Not sure yet K2 08:18 do it for science 08:18 lol 08:18 :P 08:19 I confess I find it risky compared to the possible reward 08:19 well... playing nethack in general is risky 08:19 liches get stitches 08:19 amateurhour: Message from K2 at 2021-05-06 18:32 EDT: [18:13] K2 why are the MR values for player monsters so whack? :P <--- because that's how they are in vanilla hahah 08:19 amateurhour: Message from aosdict at 2021-05-06 19:41 EDT: I started updating the archive but currently getting new arc quest out the door before june is higher priority 08:21 fair enough and fair enough 08:21 A Message from the Surgeon General on Nethack Health Risks 08:21 In the case of Vecna, it's an optional branch 08:22 Ice Queen too, but that has the superbag 08:26 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1627 points, T:2414, killed by an acidic glob 08:27 20% chance of a magic marker? 08:27 100% chance could tip the scales ;-) 08:28 partial completion might be worth it still 08:28 think VaderFLAG mentioned a lot of loot in first floor? can't remember 08:28 the prize is being able to geno L's and alhoons :) 08:28 I see no other loot really 08:28 plus the sword of kas would be epic as giant for twoweapon 08:28 its a good weapon even for non giant 08:28 yeah no twoweapon skill for me 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 524 points, T:1302, killed by a wererat 08:29 the thing is, to geno L's and alhoons I first have to become good at killing L's and alhoons 08:30 if you get the sword of kas, that can help 08:30 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 08:30 No skill for me. But I have acid blast! :-) 08:31 plus you're in demon form, already immune to death magic 08:31 you have a lot going for ya 08:31 yeah that helps a lot, true 08:31 first I need to move my stash from level 4 to the VotD... 08:32 lots of healthy walks as infidel 08:32 i have an idea about gear management 08:33 oh? 08:33 would be for a future version 08:33 magic chests? 08:33 i kinda like magic chests 08:33 \o/ 08:33 but i think it makes things too easy 08:33 sometimes 08:33 /o\ 08:34 the thought i currently have in my mohawk head is: have magic chests appear in but its not a guarantee 08:34 % chance it doesnt spawn 08:34 so some game you might get lucky and all of them form 08:34 other game maybe you only get a couple or even none 08:35 *games 08:35 i dunno 08:35 still mulling it over 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1300 08:36 i like the randomess aspect of the idea though - very much nethacky 08:36 K2: i now know why I can't build slex, im getting OOM 08:37 lol 08:37 u need more then 2gb ram to build slex 08:37 *than 08:38 oh damn 08:38 set up a swap file 08:38 i've setup zram, it's probably earlyoom killing the process 08:38 do poison clouds randomly appear in the VotD now? 08:38 no 08:39 that would be hezrou 08:39 ah! 08:39 There is a peaceful one 08:39 farting everywhere 08:39 thank god for magical breathing 08:40 hah 08:42 other slash variants are fine though 08:42 which file does it get to before it chokes? 08:42 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:42 is it by any chance monst.c? 08:42 chokes on hezrou farts? 08:44 > wc -l src/monst.c 08:44 290155 src/monst.c 08:45 mhitu.c 09:01 -!- tsadok has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:03 -!- tsadok has joined #evilhack 09:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a vampire bat corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:4132 09:16 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1024 points, T:1778, killed by a magic missile 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 47 points, T:199, killed by a goblin 09:26 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 09:31 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1558 points, T:2173, killed by a giant cockroach 09:41 -!- tsadok has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 10:04 mt pseudodragon just brought me a food ration 10:04 *my 10:04 hah 10:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:37 hothraxxa: also I fixed polearms too 10:38 you can press a single button to change welded weapon to your alt polearm wep, then target the closest target and poke them 10:38 yeah i hardly use them so i forgot about that 10:39 it makes polearms actually worth using 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:79580 10:39 nice ! 10:39 gt @ 10:39 rip L 10:40 probably not. vaderflag usually goes genoless 10:40 Most of the dungeon is clear already too 10:40 not at home atm, hence my absence for some days 10:40 VECNA DOWN \o/ 10:41 hothraxxa: isn't Vecna an L 10:41 i honestly don't know how you put up with alhoon 10:41 yes but L is a class 10:41 so is @ :P 10:42 I was continuing what you said 10:42 Yeah alhoons are a serious threat and the only thing I really fear that isn't named 10:42 you can't geno L until you kill vecna now 10:42 yeah L's are just a nuissance. alhoons are a different story 10:42 isn't vecna a pushover 10:42 Hard to say 10:42 i can even deal with arch-lichs, but alhoon are ridiculous 10:43 I got lucky with vecna I think 10:43 Also was super overprepared 10:43 they are pretty OP right now 10:43 Vecna isn't a pushover in evilhack FIQ 10:43 I watched you play that level... I wasn't going to spoil myself, but I happened to look at your game and couldn't look away lol 10:43 aren't alhoons the lovechild of arch-liches and mind flayers 10:43 it's not just a copypaste job of the slashem one 10:43 @e?vecna 10:43 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 10:43 including the covetousness 10:43 Vecna had more than one surprise for me even after reading the pokedex entry 10:43 amateurhour: ah cool 10:43 k2 has nerfed pushoveriness 10:44 hell in .7 is a lot harder now 10:45 it was way too easy before right? 10:45 Some parts were too easy, some were about right, some were too hard and got even worse (orcus) 10:46 But overall yes too easy 10:46 just wait until all the demon princes get wands of striking 10:46 yes I think that's necessary 10:46 coming soon to an evilhack near you 10:46 why wands of striking ? 10:46 ssshhhh 10:47 boulder forts are less useful now but still a little too useful 10:47 K2 tweaked the ai\ 10:47 ? 10:47 to destroy boulder forts? 10:47 I approve 10:47 oic 10:47 No, not yet 10:47 never liked boulder forts 10:47 Or at least I don't think so 10:48 it's blatant ai abuse 10:48 Yeah demon lords should be smart enough to know how to deal with them 10:49 in fiqhack monsters will gladly zap boulders with striking outside sokoban 10:49 the riders already deal with boulders 10:49 this was implemented specifically to counter boulder forts 10:49 what do the riders do with boulders? 10:49 I don't like the 3.6 rider changes 10:50 they're just cheating 10:50 qt: they just move over them 10:50 in vanilla? 10:50 I'd prefer them using the actual game mechanics to counter cheese 10:50 or in evilhack specifically? 10:50 no in evil 10:50 oh ok 10:51 vanilla bulders on astral are extremely rare, but in evil giants can carry them there, so nerf 10:52 you can wish for them 10:52 yes but hardly anyone does, gaznop notwithstanding 10:52 that was an epic boulder 10:52 gaznop 10:52 well of course YOU would say that 10:52 :^) 10:53 i agree though 10:53 FIQ: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/n6ep69/yapap_graznop_the_female_gnomish_neutral_healer/ 10:53 in case you hadn't seen the followup reddit post 11:01 can you link it in hdf 11:01 this device does not have a working browser 11:02 sure 11:05 :) 11:05 well done VaderFLAG 11:06 FIQ i'm interested in the polearm improvements you've made for fiqhack. no idea how well that'd translate to 3.6/3.7 code though 11:06 most of it should transfer well enough I'd reckon 11:06 I am not at home so I can't help you atm 11:06 sorry 11:07 more big good for less sad 11:07 no worries FIQ 11:07 you on vacation? 11:08 sort of 11:08 I can't be alone for disability reasons 11:08 :/ 11:08 my parents decided this week was the perfect week to do maintenance on my grandparent's house 11:09 I didn't agree 11:09 I didn't get much of a choice in the matter 11:09 their house is located in the middle of nowhere 11:09 is the maintenance necessary though? 11:09 there's basically nothing to do here 11:09 so I've spent this week playing Pokémon 11:09 ugh 11:10 K2: no idea, I assume so 11:10 not pokemon 11:10 as a homeowner for over 10 years, doing periodic maintenance is a big deal 11:11 you let that slide, what normally would have only cost $ now costs $$$$ 11:11 just batch it up and pay someone else to do it all and use that extra time on evilhack features 11:11 i want my home last a good long while, would like to will it over to my kid when the time comes 11:12 amateurhour that's basically what i do for the most part 11:12 we just got a quote today for new siding 11:12 prices went way the F up 11:12 but we cant put it off 11:14 graznop didn't have free action in that game? did it get destroyed or something? I got here right as they were reaching the altar. I want to read the irc log i think sounds like a blast 11:14 i dont remember seeing them having free action 11:14 it was really fun. I don't remember them having free action at all 11:15 they got super lucky, if the first altar hadnt been the right one... 11:15 I think they were wearing invisibility and something else? 11:15 conflict 11:15 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2021-05-05.log search for 'Advice needed!' in there rebatela 11:15 thanks! 11:15 I was surprised they were wearing invisibility instead of having zapped themselves or something 11:15 yeah that's what just confused me reading the reddit post 11:16 k2: that was the second altar i think 11:17 hmm nope 11:17 the plan was a hoa wish 11:17 first altar 11:18 so when you wish for a boulder you are standing on it and can move either way ? 11:18 yeah rebatela it falls on the ground under you 11:19 nice 11:19 it's like dropping one as a giant in evil i guess 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 10888 points, T:6587, killed by a magic missile 11:28 yeah though you can't really do it in evilhack as the riders just walk over them 11:28 but I think you can summon jellies and tame them and the riders can't walk through them? can't remember 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 15931 points, T:6355, killed by an invisible titan 11:29 I see that K2 has secretly been working on skynet in this channel 11:29 sssshhh 11:31 amateurhour: yeah. I know it doesn't work on riders in evil. I meant in the regular dungeon how you can be standing on the same square as a boulder if you're there first 11:32 oh yeah, good description then 11:33 you can get on top of a boulder as a non-giant if you dismount and there are no other valid adjacent locations 11:33 like in soko you mean? 11:34 yeah, anywhere 11:35 in 3.7 using it in sokoban to get onto a boulder assesses the standard luck penalty now 11:39 You drop an uncursed wand of nothing (0:5) (unpaid, 500 zorkmids). 11:39 hahah 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4751 11:42 omg Steve 11:42 he's dropping items everywhere *except* right in front of me (in a shop) 11:42 worse than a cat 11:50 there's a set of bone plate mail in this shop. i want it 11:50 W A N T 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 327 points, T:1149, killed by a small mimic 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hum Mal Cha), 22 points, T:125, killed by a goblin 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hob Mal Cha), 43 points, T:96, killed by a falling rock 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hum Mal Cha), 63 points, T:508, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hum Mal Cha), 56 points, T:66, killed by a jackal 12:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:13 k2 the goth 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Con Hum Mal Cha), 738 points, T:1662, killed by a flint stone 12:13 heh 12:13 i finally got it 12:14 Steve wasnt large enough yet to be strong enough to grab it. had to grow him up a bit 12:14 next it'll be black eyeliner 12:14 dress up like the Cure 12:16 Siouxsie and the wailing of the Banshee... 12:17 The Cure Sickness 12:18 hah 12:18 impossible: Joy Division by zero attempted 12:18 program in Disorder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhCLalLXHP4 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13351 points, T:7441, killed by a watchman called fuck you too 12:25 heh heh 12:26 accidentally bumped into him when confused while credit cloning ugh 12:26 isn't there a way to bribe them? Or is it that you can steal from a shop and then pacify the shopkeeper and the watch chills out ? 12:26 i was stunned and confused and no unihorn anyway 12:26 yeah the stealing from a shop thing works in vanilla at least, rebatela 12:27 I think you might be able to bribe the watch too, but idk if you have to bribe each one individually 12:28 it seems like it doesn't work... 12:28 I think it might be soldiers that you can bribe 12:29 if I throw a small amount of gold at him he says "that's not enough, coward!" implying that it is possible 12:29 hehe 12:29 but when I throw a larger amount he just stays silent and keeps attacking me 12:29 yeah he said something funny when i tried chatting 12:29 You were getting warmer with the amounts! 12:29 I threw the max amount of gold you can possibly throw, he must be very greedy lol 12:29 32767$ 12:29 As crooked as a demon prince 12:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:36 "Feel free to leave anytime" These shopkeepers can be ruthless 12:36 oh i'll be back with my pet. Thanks for the magic whistle 12:39 the shopkeepers are such dedicated racists that they are willing to alienate literally the only paying customer in the dungeons of doom 12:40 hehe 12:40 nothing like a DL2 hardware store though.... magic whistle > bag, key, stethoscope, magic lamp 12:43 oh man ANOTHER hardware store even bigger on dl4 12:43 Love that early stethoscope 12:43 yeah... i haven't had one at all in my last few game s 12:43 sometimes i have to polypile for it 12:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:09 oh no. double qt bones with an angry psuedo dragon 13:09 i need to go steal that harp and see if it's magic i think 13:11 rebatela: is it just double bones or is the quadruple bones? 13:11 yay. tamed it 13:11 oh i've only seen two so far lol 13:11 oh no 3 13:11 I think it is the quadruple bones :-O 13:11 so yeah it must be quadruple. hopefully i don't add to it 13:12 quadruple bones 13:12 there's a gnome with a bunch of attack wands I think 13:12 wtf is on that level? 13:12 we gotta get this pseudodragon beefed up 13:12 take him through the mines first i guess. i've never had one 13:12 well K2 three of them are from me and we all know my skill level ;) 13:12 i'm not dying to whatever you did lol 13:12 heh 13:13 you left orcus and demogorgon there didnt you 13:13 smut can come with us too 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:81682 13:13 I'm pretty sure it's a gnome with attack wand(s) 13:13 that killed me 13:13 not 100% sure because I die so often I get them mixed up sometimes 13:14 nice VaderFLAG 13:14 You asked if all the demons would be generated after I got so many from same-race sace 13:14 Got all 4 13:14 w00T vaderflag 13:14 VaderFLAG: is solaire still with us?? 13:14 No new ones though :( 13:14 Solaire lives! 13:14 awesome 13:14 heh 13:14 \o/ 13:14 praise the sun 13:15 VaderFLAG are you still gonna escort them all to astral? :P 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:53467 13:15 Maybe 13:15 We'll see 13:16 mobileuser murdered their quest leader using murder 13:16 redrum 13:16 SCIENCE 13:18 rebatela you know you can tame pseudodragons with tripe? 13:19 ahh i did not know that 13:19 thank you 13:20 I didn't know that either 13:21 someone mentioned it a couple days ago and I was really surprised 13:22 K2 the quest leader should ask for the amulet as well 13:22 No use taking just the idol to moloch 13:23 more bones in the mines 13:24 oh sweet another magic lamp 13:24 smop 13:26 lol "You feel very jumpy." after eating an agent corpse 13:26 I didn't know they could confer that 13:26 I haven't seen a single magic lamp yet :-( 13:27 Me neither, I hate not having light 13:27 Accidentally vaporized my sunsword :x 13:27 mobileuser: I think any monster that teleports randomly can convey teleportitis? 13:27 do agents teleport randomly? i don't know what they are 13:27 yeah that makes sense 13:27 hah 13:27 Like how monsters with stun attacks give hallucination 13:27 they teleport if they manage to steal the amulet 13:28 special agents sent by the other gods 13:30 Yendorian Bureau of Investigation 13:30 FBI agents: Full Belief in Issek 13:31 RIP Solaire. Touch of death'd be an alhoon even though he had an amulet of MR 13:31 NO!!!! 13:31 my god :( this is awful 13:31 is that a bug? K2? 13:31 or was he not wearing the amulet or something? 13:32 He was wearing it earlier, I'll check and see if he picked up another one 13:32 He also got armor disintegrated earlier when he was definitely wearing it 13:32 yeah only one amulet on his corpse 13:33 mfer had a can of grease and didn't tell me 13:33 hmm 13:33 it's not a death wand on that bones level right? lol maybe i will try to just dig past it 13:34 you have a wand of undead turning? or the spell? 13:34 VaderFLAG 13:34 Yeah I just revived him, but geez I thought a moment of silence was in order first 13:34 phew 13:34 Wow he's still tame 13:34 thank god :) 13:34 I thought I had abused him too much 13:34 you abuser you 13:36 if he had MR it should have protected him 13:36 mcastu.c line 1863 and on 13:38 I have no further info that could help with that. He definitely died that way, and he had the amulet on him. And he was wearing it earlier 13:38 He was super lucky that that alhoon didn't also suck turn undead out of my head 13:39 lol even after saccing a unicorn I am still insufficiently aligned 13:39 Oh yeah, how DOES that work with infidels 13:39 hmm... K2, should there be a resists_magm check in there? 13:40 it looks like only innate resistance to death magic (being undead, etc) and level-based resistance are accounted for 13:42 Umbire same as for other roles, but all unicorns are OK to sac for infidel 13:42 gdammit 13:42 'resisted' isnt what i thought it was 13:42 But after killing my quest leader my alignment was extremely bad 13:42 fwiw this came over from splicehack/grunthack 13:43 well yeah, killing your mentor tends to do that 13:43 even for Moloch worshippers :B 13:44 actually I think there's another problem there too K2 13:44 in mcastu.c:1884 a high level hero is more likely to succeed in casting touch of death 13:44 but that's checked even if the attacker is a monster 13:45 so if the hero is high level all monsters are more likely to succeed in mon vs mon touch of death 13:47 geez 13:47 i really need to review all of the ucast_ () bits 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9798 points, T:6999, killed by a warg 13:48