00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1582 00:08 Well then. 00:08 D'oh. Didn't mean to drop all my scrolls. Including my uncursed scare monsters. :/ 00:16 Hmm? Just picked them up again, why are they _still_ uncursed? 00:27 R) 4 eyeballs 00:27 is that a food type now? 00:29 -!- cccrow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 00:31 Yes, but as explained they're not meant to be randomly generated 00:32 Base item for Eye of Vecna 00:32 Ktwo already knows about it 00:39 This happens to me quite often. :( 00:39 > You begin praying to Anhur. The ettin zombie scratches you! You die... 00:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3526 points, T:2666, killed by an ettin zombie, while praying 00:40 Pretty certain it was safe to pray, too. 00:44 K2: Had a few quick games/quits not reported after the Mjolnir thing so 01:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2349 01:20 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:27 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 01:27 !source 01:27 cccrow: https://github.com/k21971/EvilBot 01:58 Interesting, gnome shopkeep is giving good prices but keeps calling me scum and such 01:59 I guess he's just racist or s/t 02:00 need help on sokoban 02:00 Show me the floor 02:04 -!- bouquet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 02:09 https://i.imgur.com/HhlzRDy.png 02:10 Ah, so you're just not familiar with this is all 02:10 yep, im new 02:10 and no info in the wiki 02:10 Alright, second if you will 02:12 can this room reset if i mess up? 02:13 No lol 02:13 You can make and break boulders though but you take -1 Luck per offense 02:13 This is an easyish solve with no mistakes though 02:14 cccrow: http://0x0.st/-BZp.png 02:14 This is the SET of move you 02:14 *moves you'll need to make 02:15 thanks! 02:15 I'll give you the order in a moment but this is how I visualize it sometimes 02:15 yep 02:15 already got it 02:18 Wait you have it now? 02:19 yelp 02:19 i died 02:19 cuz of apes 02:20 RIP 02:20 im playing offline cuz of internet issues 02:23 That's fine 02:24 anyway, thanks for the help 02:25 Not a problem 02:25 I'll probably put that map on the wiki for future reference 02:26 nice 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:37 cccrow: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_1f 03:37 Turns out it's already there 03:43 bookmarked. 03:44 👍 03:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:51 oh, he offlined. I haven't said my gratitude yet 03:51 thanks anyway 03:51 or was it anyway, thanks? 03:53 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: break] 03:54 all of the evilhack soko levels can be found at https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_(UnNetHack) I think 05:05 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:48682 05:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:32, killed by a boiling potion 05:52 Damn box trap! Ha. 05:55 medusa down ascension WHEN 05:56 Hmm? 05:59 Woah. A magical lamp on dlvl 1 06:03 nice 06:08 Yep. Mind you, it was in a beartrap, and next to a jackal, and it was turn 354, and I was down to 4 HP... 06:08 But prayer worked and I survived :D 06:11 This is possibly the first time I may have started the game with a wish. :) (I haven't used the wish yet) 06:38 nice, what're you gonna wish for? 06:49 what's the "win" condition for a Ranger? others have a excalibur for example. 06:51 wiki says just collect +6/+7 arrows. 06:51 amateurhour: Probably stone GoP, to start with. 06:51 I can get a *stone* GoP, right? 06:52 yeah 06:53 I've got *two* cursed magic lamps now. :) 06:59 > Status of the dwarf king (male, lawful): Level 6 HP 37(37) AC -19. 06:59 Oof... 07:00 I hate when that happens 07:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3960 points, T:3394, killed by a soldier ant 07:02 Such a shame. :( 07:02 Ant appeared when I was down! 07:02 Those deep shafts are so dangerious. 07:03 That'll be an awesome bones level. :D 07:03 Dwarf king with AC -19, and two magic lamps. 07:06 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 317 points, T:1125, killed by a falling object 07:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 264 points, T:564, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 07:15 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 07:22 Arahael you shouldnt find anymore random eyeballs 07:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:1105 07:22 if you do, lemme know 07:22 K2: A pity. They would've been tasty! ;) 07:22 eww 07:24 K2: In some places, eyeballs are a delicacy, and people do eat fish eyes, as well. :) 07:24 ... eww 07:25 I've eaten fish eyes before! Though there was a... calcium ball in them, which I didn't find particularly tasty. Very chalky, even. 07:25 "F - a wand of wishing. You feel like a coward." 07:26 https://www.themeateater.com/cook/recipes/nostril-to-caudal-fish-eye-chips 07:26 mobileuser, moloch thinks you're a wuss if you stand on the e-word 07:26 (as infidel) 07:27 yeah I know ;-) It was just a funny combination 07:27 off to work, cya in a bit 07:27 Ooh, wand of poly self-identifies now. 07:27 K2: Enjoy your day, I'm winding down for the night. :) 07:27 bug fixed! \o/ 07:28 migr_booty_item doesn't do anything fun like the name suggests 07:29 well he probably thinks everyone else who uses it is a wuss too 07:29 K2 can you rename that migr_stolen_items and add a migr_booty_items function that does something more amusing 07:30 amateurhour: And has a side-effect of printing "bundlebundlebundle" to the logs? ;) 07:31 Hmm. Gold GoP. 07:32 Not the best material. 07:33 just geno leps :-) 07:41 And nymphs... 07:41 Oh, they don't take gold, do they? 07:43 EPI: invisible items patch in evilhack 07:43 nymphs can steal anything 07:43 the upside is you can make your items invisible and they will never be stolen 07:43 the downside is you might not ever find some items because see invis can be lost 07:44 amateurhour: Do monsters actively look for items - or do they only pick them up if they stumble on them? 07:44 with invisible items? afaik the only variants with it don't have monsters picking up items 07:44 could be wrong 07:46 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 07:47 hey K2 did you figure out the polymorph auto-id thing last night? or is it still not working? 07:47 qt: Seems to work now. 07:47 qt: I engraved, and it auto-identified. 07:47 he wasn't polying an existing engraving 07:48 oh 07:48 operator error 07:48 pebkac 07:55 i never engrave test wands, ever 07:55 i didnt know 07:55 ever?! 07:56 this has opened your third eye 07:56 K2 likes to live dangerously 07:56 heh that parallels the original line better than I expected 07:56 if only he were I2 07:58 gotta talk to umbire when he hops online again 07:58 he keeps putting rong info about evilhack on the wiki 07:58 *wrong 07:58 and aosdict you may wanna have a look at his edits to the obj materials page 07:59 there's some misinformation there also that pertains to more than just evilhack 07:59 the page looks like it still only has grunthack stuff 07:59 mostly 08:00 https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Object_materials&diff=next&oldid=131362 08:00 I think all the variants need their own object materials page 08:00 because 5 variants have 5 different implementations 08:00 on the obj materials page, it could just say 'for evilhack, follow this link ' 08:01 since i have my own section dedicated to it 08:03 what's the misinformation? 08:04 here's one - [[Golem]]s that are generated randomly or via [[polypiling]] in games with object materials will [[death drop]] items made of that material in addition to the standard "corpse" of objects they leave behind. 08:04 ^ not true 08:04 it implies all variants other than grunthack have implementations based on L's object materials patch, idk if that's true or not, but the other stuff seems to be true of xnh 08:04 that's something that's true in xnh 08:04 I think he is just putting xnh stuff on there and assuming it's true of other variants 08:05 aosdict yes i know 08:05 its true for xnh/evil but not the others 08:05 honestly, the entire obj materials page could sue a revamp 08:05 *use 08:05 most of them are phrased like "some games may do X" or "many variants do X" and it looks like he forgot to do that for the golem one 08:05 man i cnt typ 08:06 blah 08:06 yeah it is definitely not a super great page though 08:07 I edited it back when it was just grunthack (and brass) that had obj materials 08:07 simpler times 08:07 back then there was some just straight up inaccurate info (grunthack 1.0 vs 2.0?) 08:08 yeah a lot changed between those versions 08:09 unnethack also needs an object material page. it has an implementation that is different from the other 5 08:09 it uses the sophisticated "no implementation" technique 08:10 golems do drop other items made of their material in evilhack? 08:10 I have seen that often 08:11 k2 said "it's true of xnh/evil but not the others" 08:11 ah, check 08:11 bhaak :) 08:14 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 08:14 bleh only 0:1 for my WoW 08:15 hey if you dont want those wishes... 08:17 don't confuse me with VaderFLAG :-) 08:17 MOAR wishes 08:17 :P 08:21 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:23 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 08:26 -!- cccrow has quit [Client Quit] 08:27 -!- jonadab has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47 K2: would be neat if there was a pearwood chest in the valley :) 08:48 lol 08:50 wish granted. there is now a pearwood chest in the valley. however, it is only regular pearwood, and thus looks and acts like any other wood chest. 08:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) made her first wish - "cursed +2 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of telepathy", on T:49179 08:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm named "Acme Inc. alhoon safety helmet"", on T:49203 08:53 haha 08:54 :) 08:59 mobileuser: what's the hawaiian shirt design? 09:01 dragons on a ??? background 09:02 tropical fish on a purple background 09:02 I thought oilskin was inherently fooproof 09:02 I have been fooproved wrong 09:02 haha 09:03 :-O 09:04 z - a cursed burnt +0 oilskin cloth elven helm :-( 09:04 :( 09:05 z - a cursed fireproof +0 oilskin cloth elven helm :-) 09:05 still +0 09:05 ): 09:06 heheh 09:06 lol 09:06 these new sokoban levels are refreshing 09:06 how is your wizard doing K2? 09:06 tfw u got an elven helm instead of a fashionable fedora 09:06 )): 09:06 mines done, working on soko 09:06 but aren't 4 of them in a row a bit much? 09:06 bhaak no 09:06 I get exhausted after doing 3 Sokoban levels 09:06 exercise your brain 09:07 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 09:07 amateurhour I almost went for the fedora ;-) 09:07 i have magicbane, blessed BoH 09:07 hi 09:07 Hello cccrow, Welcome to #evilhack 09:07 need some better armor tho 09:07 heya cccrow 09:07 have a blessed magic lamp also but i wanna see what i get from soko first before i use it 09:08 this is the way 09:09 bhaak: replace 4 soko floors with just a single one - https://0x0.st/-Bcj.png 09:09 I'm pretty sure I know that the image of that level doesn't fit on my screen 09:10 lol 09:11 heh 09:11 it's pretty easy as soko puzzles go, it's just long 09:17 k2: how come a pet mind flayer gets less nutrition from eating brains if its owner is an illithid? (eat.c:681) 09:17 eh 09:17 I don't really understand the reasoning, not sure if I should change this or not (I am going through and fixing some odd uses of Race_if) 09:17 y u ask me the hard questions 09:18 lemme look 09:18 if the owner is an illithid EDOG(magr)->hungrytime goes up by rnd(3), otherwise it goes up by rnd(60) 09:19 oof 09:19 that is a mistake 09:19 what should it be instead? just rnd(60) across the board? 09:19 when i made illithid race, i significantly reduced how much nutrition it got per successful tentacle attack 09:20 oh its supposed to be whether the pet is an illithid? 09:20 there shouldnt be any changes for a pet 09:20 ok 09:20 i misinterpreted that part 09:20 i had the dumb 09:20 amateurhour made me 09:20 damn you amateurhour 09:20 it is true 09:20 if it werent for those meddling kids... 09:20 sorry all 09:21 y u let me have the dumb amateurhour 09:21 'sorry' isn't gonna cut it 09:21 y tho 09:22 uugh speaking like that gives me the heebie jeebies 09:25 hah only one of the four soko levels were new 09:25 thanks RNG 09:27 hahah an elf lord zapped me with a wand of polymorph, i had MR so was fine but the boulder behind me is now a statue of a gelcube 09:27 K2: here are some random changes to uses of Race_if, many of them are just formatting but there are a couple bugfixes too https://0x0.st/-BcW.diff 09:28 thanks qt 09:30 1. "these new sokoban levels are refreshing" 2. "hah only one of the four soko levels were new thanks RNG" 09:30 :b 09:33 :) 09:36 gonna have to cheat and use a scroll of earth to fill that last hole 09:36 k2 there's another problem with use of Race_if btw... the thing that checks whether items are "two handed" or not depends on the player's race (whether they're a giant or not) 09:36 but it is used for monsters too 09:36 YANI: statues can be used to fill pits/holes 09:36 so if the player is a giant all monsters can wield two handed weapons in one hand 09:36 we talked about this a while ago but then I sort of forgot about it :P 09:36 qt i remember this being brought up awhile back 09:36 yeah 09:37 i forgot too lol 09:38 probably worth writing down so it isn't forgotten again lol. I am going to make a note of it -- I think the fix might involve adding a monst * param to the bimanual macro, so that it can depend on the wielder 09:39 ok 09:40 i think there was another related problem with how probing feedback was printed or something, but I can't remember :/ 09:40 whatever 09:42 I should leave more bugs in xnethack 09:42 so that qt can fix them 09:43 you're more capable than i am :) 09:45 this is how I imagine qt when he looks at stuff I've done in evilhack - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2587/source 09:45 or really anyone for that matter 09:48 that is pretty much how I felt when I was looking at slex code the other day 09:48 lol 09:48 do a shallow clone of slex or waste 2.5gb of space 09:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 496 points, T:772, killed by a wererat 10:07 oh thats right 10:07 i maintain my own repo of slex, i can kill all that waste 10:09 Does slex really take 2.5 gb? 10:10 1.9G 10:10 never got to build slex, full of undefined errors or sometimes a fatal error. 10:11 its special 10:11 That's... Huge. 10:11 its why i have my own repo for hardfought, I've had to significantly edit the makefiles 10:12 and config.h 10:12 I mean, that's seriously huge. Some of my work projects are that big, but that's largely due to the *media*. Graphics. Audio. All that. 10:12 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13 Hell, that's competing with glibc. 10:13 lol I just realised I really need to kill my quest leader before the high priest will give both hints. Running away will not be enough. 10:13 imma try K2's fork 10:14 you'd still need to edit the makefiles and config.h for a local build cccrow 10:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2708 points, T:3884, killed by an owlbear 10:14 .git/objects/pack/pack-fa82dd295fac3b8f02c24511ca55083e30bfc4cb.pack 10:14 ^ 1.6G 10:14 How does it manage to be so huge? 10:14 no idea 10:16 To give another indication of how big it is... Back 10 years ago, 2 GB was the upper limit to how big a git repo could be on windows. 10:18 K2: was yours already setup for build on linux + curses? 10:18 yes 10:19 nice 10:20 hmm i think amy disabled curses for 2.7.0 10:20 too many bugs and she couldnt be bothered to fix 10:20 that's so sad 10:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 56955 points, T:19880, killed by a mountain centaur 10:22 oops 10:23 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: buildingrip] 10:23 :-( 10:23 i healed myself but it got in that extra attack that round 10:23 !lastgame k2 10:23 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1619739431.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577469384.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1576941662.evil.html 10:24 AC:0, difficult 10:24 yup 10:24 i was going to grab armor from soko 10:25 either would have been good 10:27 *sigh*. Random mithril hard shoes turned out to be -2. 10:27 Unlucky. 10:35 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:41 Sacrificed an orcish soldier and it didn't count it as same-race sacrifice 10:42 That or now there's a chance same-race sac does nothing unusual 10:42 its the first 10:46 bug? 10:48 yeah probably a bug, I think I accounted for cannibalism but maybe not for sacrifice 10:51 "The ice devil can't carry your lizard corpse." 10:52 these pets seem to overload themselves with stones pretty quickly 10:52 Too encumbered from carting around a bag full of rocks 10:52 yeah 10:52 I'll just drop my own bag first... 10:53 "The ice devil drops a lizard corpse." hmm not interested 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:68223 11:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3116 11:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3262 points, T:3208, killed by an orcish arrow 11:05 K2: racial same-race sacrifice: https://termbin.com/klkw 11:05 <3 11:06 It's insane how fast ya'll get on this stuff 11:06 some of these things takes me hours or even days 11:06 qt looks at it, goes 'oh' and 20 sec later picaso code 11:07 same for aosdict 11:07 is picasso code deformed and strange looking lol 11:07 O___o 11:07 da vinci code 11:07 get it? lol 11:08 this is aosdict looking at my commits - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2552/source 11:09 you just need a bit of abstract thinking, then programming is easy 11:10 all joking aside, i've gotten better 11:10 i still have a long ways to go though 11:12 it gets easier over time when you encounter similar situation or you actually know what you want to do because you've done it before 11:13 or what not to do because it didn't work the last time you tried it :) 11:15 K2: this should prevent monsters from stashing rocks in their bag https://termbin.com/7v2z 11:16 they will still hang onto them in open inventory because they're considered "ammo" I think, but at least it will be easier to take them away with #loot 11:16 maybe they should only keep them if they're an appropriate ammo for their current weapon? one sec 11:19 Arahael: it's binaries being committed to the repo 11:20 bhaak yes excatly 11:20 and i've learned from other peoples commits also 11:20 qt neat 11:23 reading code is extremly powerful. you learn about ideas that you possibly never could have learned yourself. 11:24 when you learn a new language or even a new framework, read as much as you can. you learn how stuff is supposed to be used, you learn how the code is supposed to be structured, you can see what's possible 11:28 and then do all sorts of shit to break it 11:29 K2 I think you can just use the most recent paste I put on there 11:29 it looks like they already will drop rocks once they have a better ranged weapon, so preventing them from stashing them should be good enough 11:29 sweet thanks 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:44857 11:49 alrighty, all three of those code submissions are committed 11:49 just havent pushed yet in case there's more coming soon 11:49 * K2 wonders what else qt has up his sleeve 11:50 nothing right now K2, unfortunately I have to do some actual work :) 12:06 same lol 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±13] https://git.io/J3XwF 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 1fc01a0 - Fix: various bugs with Race_if() conditions. 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 ecc7099 - Fix: take erac into account when performing same-race sacrifice. 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 15dcfa5 - Prevent intelligent pets from stashing rocks in their bag. 12:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:70506 12:14 hah 12:14 you lucky 12:14 Yeah. Wasn't even trying for it! 12:14 But at least now when Rodney snags my mirror I won't get fucked 12:14 Assuming I make it that far 12:15 VaderFLAG: how's Solaire doing? 12:16 has anyone killed Vecna yet? 12:17 Solaire has been recently upgraded with Ogresmasher 12:17 Still kicking minor butt 12:17 Is the new monster reflection spell AD_SPEL or AD_CLRC or both? 12:17 ad_spel 12:18 amateurhour no i dont think so 12:18 I chickened out on Vecna because my HP was too low then Orcus took away 150 more 12:18 So not anytime soon for me 12:18 wow Orcus took 150 max hp!? 12:18 that's crazy, I don't remember it being that bad when I fought him before 12:19 was he beefed up in 0.7? 12:19 He can reflect himself now which I didn't anticpate he woulda only taken 70 or so 12:20 I had like 96 max hp when done with him 12:20 at level 22 12:20 Not good 12:20 oof 12:21 first 2 rounds he got lucky hits and rolls and took me from 200something to 130 12:21 Never melee orcus! 12:22 Ordinarily it would be fine cuz I'd have 300-400hp at that point, but my potion luck has been absent this game 12:23 @e?orcus 12:23 Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 85 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 12:23 That reminds me, what is the 3d4 wither effect anyway? Is that a str-lowering thing? 12:23 he's faster than vanilla orcus 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 594 points, T:1020, killed by a magic missile 12:23 withering - your hit points slowly decrease and you cant regen whilst its happening 12:24 Oh it's the mummy effect 12:24 I never have seen him land that on me 12:24 how long the effect lasts is tied directly to how hard they hit 12:24 yeah it doesnt always go off on a successful hit 12:25 @e?vecna 12:25 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 12:25 Vecna gonna kill with wither and acid blasts I'm guessing 12:26 Or pulls the Asmodeus special and rolls a cold vulnerability cast 12:26