00:32 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 00:36 #join #roguelikes 00:36 -!- cccrow has quit [Client Quit] 00:39 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 00:40 No. 00:40 (Botched a command, I take it?) 00:45 yep 00:45 i'm looking for roguelikes and roguelikedev 00:46 they're in discord 01:13 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 02:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:47 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:50 -!- inSanity has joined #evilhack 03:01 aosdict: Demons can't spawn with silver weapons, right? 03:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:49 amateurhour making the temple priest peaceful actually works! what will happen when I chat... 03:51 I'm hoping it lets you donate still 03:52 but not sure 03:53 nope :-) 03:53 rip 03:53 rip 03:53 immediately hostile again 03:53 SCIENCE 03:53 "Thou wouldst have words, eh? I'll give thee a word or two!" 03:53 I wonder if that's a vanilla thing or if there's some infidel specific thing 03:54 ah yeah, infidel 03:55 || (u.ualign.type == A_NONE && !coaligned)) { 03:55 damnit tomsod why 03:55 lol 03:56 it was a hobbit priest, this was also a test to see if I could make a pet out of it :-) 03:56 two science for the price of one \o/ 03:56 FAIL & FAIL \o/ 05:01 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:03 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 05:15 Nice to see that the protection spell is just as sucky when monsters use it :b 05:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:24 haha 05:36 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 06:42 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:07 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:23 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Blind Io, on T:44325 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44326 07:54 why does Umbire keep asking what I presume are xnethack questions in this channel 07:55 !tell Umbire uh... in evilhack? I dunno. 07:55 Umbire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 07:55 I thought this was the hardfought-offtopic channel 07:56 no, #hardfought is the hardfought-offtopic channel 07:57 ah it all makes sense now 08:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:24 hah 08:24 mobileuser are you ready to deal with your quest leader? 08:25 maybe after a short dishes break 08:25 :) 08:26 lol 08:27 I am just going to avoid the quest leader for as long as possible 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 939 points, T:2112, killed by a spear trap 08:28 Still need to find the Idol, this time the nemesis didn't bring it over after cursed invis 08:50 I'm in deep shit. :( 08:50 Tried to convert an altar of moloch. Got vrocks. And they're summoning vrocks! 08:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 22846 points, T:8642, killed by a vrock 08:54 Good game, regardless, but wow. Seriously unlucky, that. Don't know what I should've done there. 08:54 don't mock the vrocks, they'll clean your clock 08:55 HAR HAR HAR. 08:55 But yeah. They just kept gating more in. 08:55 I had 4 vrocks at the end, there. 08:56 And no escape route 08:56 #name m brock 08:57 Well, I'm consistently making it to mines end, anyway, and as an illithid, none-the-less. 08:58 So I'm improving. :) G'night! 08:58 sleep well 09:02 -!- jonadab has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:11 -!- inSanity has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Frost Brand", on T:14168 09:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 28 points, T:40, killed by a scroll of earth 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1268 points, T:2447, killed by an exploding wand, while sleeping 09:50 "You must return to the Archbishop of Moloch at once." Yeah, I don't think so. 09:55 moloch has archbishops? 09:59 does this conflict with existing lore? 10:00 Moloch's the only one who seems to have any power around here, I'd follow him 10:01 This dumb caveman. Vaporized his Excalibur on a black dragon. 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:52517 10:10 what is that level you're on VaderFLAG? 10:10 oh it's some sort of new ludios variant? 10:10 Yes 10:10 Not really new, but yes 10:10 It's a major pain when the centaurs have cancel wands, since you can't get to them easily 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 712 points, T:1208, killed by a wand, while sleeping 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:17641 10:37 scroll of taming does not tame NPC's, merely makes them peaceful 10:37 SCIENCE 10:38 \o/ 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Teef, his faithful little dog, on T:1058 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2866 points, T:2149, killed by a wolf 10:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a fire elemental), on T:18768 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:54293 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:54310 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a lich, on T:18994 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 269 points, T:1056, killed by a falling object 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:55023 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:55934 12:49 been making update to the wiki 12:49 *updates 12:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:51 \o/ wiki 12:52 \o/ been 12:59 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:59 I have identified 26/28 rings and burnt an entire poly wand failing to get free action. Just picked up a bronze ring. It has to be stealth, right? Gotta get EVERY RING except the only one that really matters. 13:00 are you going wishless? 13:00 heh 13:00 Yes 13:00 this is the way 13:00 wand is empty anyway 13:01 I was trying to go polyless too but so much for that 13:03 my HP are too low, my AC too inferior to be walking around with no free action 13:05 i still need to add new monsters, but that can wait 13:05 ooh i need to add barding 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of p'hul", on T:23123 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24631 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 6388 points, T:6774, killed by an orc zombie, while praying 14:33 did you get the owner krm26 14:34 bah they're not on here i guess 14:34 plus it was like an hour ago 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:57214 14:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7832 15:21 VaderFLAG do you ever upgrade your steed when playing as a knight? 15:23 What do you mean 15:24 knights typically go for a ki-rin as a steed 15:25 i just found slow monster AND cure blindness spellbooks. Literally my favorite two spells. If I mess up this game now, it's my own fault ! A wand of light and a tin opener and i have zero excuses 15:25 Oh, I mostly give up riding by the time I'm badass enough 15:25 hmm 15:25 If I had the chance to take a ki-rin I would 15:25 But that rarely happens 15:25 I thought barely anyone used kirins now they can't wear reflection amulet 15:25 was gonna say, since you're adark knight, you'll want an eldritch ki-rin 15:25 Even the red horse gets death touched out from under me - mounts just die so fast 15:26 and wish up some mithril barding of reflection if you dont find any 15:26 can you tame those? because i tried and failed in wizmode 15:26 Very high MR like normal ki-rin methinks 15:26 Umbire: Message from aosdict at 2021-05-05 07:55 EDT: uh... in evilhack? I dunno. 15:26 all my mounts attack footrice :( 15:26 hothraxxa - lawful knight can tame/ride regular ki-rin, but not eldritch 15:26 chaotic knight, opposite 15:26 Ye 15:26 i don't think i tried as a chaotic knight 15:27 hothraxxa i addressed the mouns attacking footrice 15:27 Are there any special rules facilitating it, or just regular scroll action 15:27 it was all wizmode anyway 15:27 k2: when though? 15:27 VaderFLAG ki-rins have high MR so they are hard to tame 15:27 hothraxxa very recently 15:27 my last game peggy attacked a footrice 15:28 ok i've not played the new release 15:28 As with normal ki-rin you're better off with a figurine wish or s/t 15:28 VaderFLAG: what i'll typically do is burn a wish for a blessed figureine of a ki-rin 15:28 Also does barding allow you to give mounts MR? 15:28 because if so that'd be swell 15:28 Umbire no 15:28 :c 15:28 guess I'm never playing evil knights then 15:28 /j 15:28 I tried to ride my pet caveman but I guess he's too SOPHISTICATED to have a saddle strapped to him 15:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Containers_and_tools 15:29 blessed dragonhide barding of magic resistance and reflection 15:29 no wishing for figurines for VaderFLAG 15:30 I was gonna try out pegasus this game but I accidentally killed it 15:30 doh 15:30 murderer! 15:31 i always try riding the pegasus. usually i don't make it out of the ice realm 15:31 I found a spellbook of flame sphere, should be interesting in the ice realm 15:31 \o/ 15:31 there's a chance you'll find barding along with a saddle in one of the chests at the end of the ice queen branch 15:32 In my case I will just zap teleport at the superbag chest and run away 15:32 as god intended 15:32 lol 15:32 Yeah that's the smart way to go 15:33 you used to be able to teleport kathryn away 15:33 what happens if you try to do it now? 15:33 she's immune from teleportation? 15:33 yeah 15:34 someone mentioned it in irc and it was quickly modified 15:34 "someone" 15:34 * amateurhour glares at self 15:34 she has tele control 15:35 so she'll just tele right next to you 15:35 as god intended 15:35 hiiiii sailor 15:35 heeeeey 15:35 is it done via a ring K2? 15:35 or just innately 15:35 no, monster flag 15:35 ah 15:36 Riders have the same flag 15:36 mobileuser have you dealt with quest leader yet 15:36 i must know (for science) (and asking for a friend) 15:37 @e?templar of moloch 15:37 No such monster. 15:37 hmmm 15:38 what's the quest leader called again? 15:38 @e?templar 15:38 templar (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 3d4 weapon physical, 3d4 weapon physical | Alignment: 10 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8570 15:38 K2 I will not deal with quest leader until I am ready for the asc run 15:38 @e?archbishop of moloch 15:38 Archbishop of Moloch (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire sleep shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d8 cast clerical | Alignment: -128 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 15:38 MR 90 wow 15:39 That's a lot of damage 15:39 You can just opt to not go talk to them, right? 15:39 all the quest leaders got buffed up vs vanilla 15:39 VaderFLAG yes you can 15:39 however 15:39 the Bell wont work until you do (or kill them) 15:39 I thought my alignment record was pretty good but King Arthur didn't think so 15:40 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#The_Quest 15:40 He should probably always ask for it back from a chaotic knight anyway heh 15:40 Did you kill the Oracle yourself? 15:40 VaderFLAG so what did you do? 15:40 asking for a friend / science 15:40 I had to kill him! 15:40 \o/ 15:40 I did kill the oracle 15:40 who? 15:40 she 15:40 Both of them 15:40 her 15:40 All of them 15:40 EVERYONE 15:40 KILL 15:40 REDRUM 15:41 Kill em all let MML sort them out 15:41 so that must have caused the bad alignment record 15:41 VaderFLAG do #conduct it should show the quest as complete 15:41 oh look at this, achievements in conduct now 15:41 fun 15:41 I have GRAVELY abused my alignment 15:42 I mean yeah I killed King Arthur and all his pages so 15:42 That checks out 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:26043 15:43 i'm just gonna dig for victory now that i know slow blindess and cure monster 15:43 bless this tin opener and i'm good 15:44 Cure Monster - turns any zombie into its unzombied form and tames it "thanks for freeing me from the curse of the undead" 15:44 figure when i get to veccna i just slow em down and cure my blind ness 15:44 Cure Monster - creates a tin of cured monster 15:44 needs a tin opener to eat 15:44 Yes! A spell version of the tinning kit! 15:44 lol 15:45 there's some alhoons in vecna's branch rebatela 15:45 algoons 15:45 I wonder which will you get more alhoons: killing vecna and genociding alhoons, or skipping vecna entirely 15:46 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 15:48 skipping 15:48 alhoons like hanging about in gehennom 15:48 the artifacts bit is updated on the wiki also 15:48 I guess it probably depends on what your xplvl is 15:48 only thing i have left to do is new monsters i think 15:49 hey K2 arahael found 2 eyeballs earlier 15:49 wut 15:49 those arent supposed to generate randomly 15:49 yeah 15:49 MOTHERF... 15:49 .........eyeballs? 15:49 we cant have eyeballs just laying about 15:50 he thought maybe bones or something 15:50 and although it's possible for it to be bones, noone's killed vecna yet afaik to even get the eye 15:50 but they were just laying about 15:50 and why would there be 2 of them 15:50 VaderFLAG, the base object for the eye of vecna is an eyeball 15:50 he thought it was slime mold 15:50 could be named fruit in bones, true 15:50 technically you can eat/sac the EoV 15:50 I'm gonna eat it 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:9300 15:51 I wasn't gonna but now that I know I can 15:51 Gonna eat it 15:51 don't eat it 15:51 bad 15:51 EET MOR CHIKIN 15:53 and my next 3 spellbooks after poly piling? cause fear, confuse monster, and detect food.... I am just crushing it 15:54 why all these useless spells still ? Even in vanilla 15:59 but detect food is hungerless! 16:02 in slashem I was fed up of all the useless level one spells like the sphere ones 16:02 but it sounds like they can be used for great effect 16:03 Confuse monster tends to be under utilized, p. nice if you need to get a particular baddie off your back while mopping up others 16:04 cause fear 16:04 * Umbire does "ehhhhh" hand thing 16:04 it has its place but horns and bugles tend to cover most of that ground for no power cost 16:04 detect food can be p. goated in a pinch 16:12 K2: Minor but wouldn't she be a demon princess? 16:12 Tiamat* 16:13 sure but the game classifies them as demon prince 16:13 so minor a detail i didnt care 16:14 amateurhour i made the flame/freeze sphere spells level 2 16:14 in evilhack 16:14 thinking maybe those shoulda been lvl 3 but whatevs 16:15 are they actually good then? the like one time I tried them in slashem they were annoying and angered a priest haha 16:18 try em out 16:18 so like when you find a spellbook of detect food it's like a joke i guess? is that what's happening? haha i get it 16:18 haha rebatela if you think that's bad you should see detect foot 16:18 * rebatela is not well... 16:18 detect food isnt a joke spell 16:19 yeah sporkhack has a true joke spell 16:19 i think i'd prefer detect foot w 16:19 detect foot is level 7 spell that just confuses you 16:19 K2: I bet you could find a good quote in the Enuma Elish to expand the Tiamat encyclopedia entry 16:20 i bet detect food was probably a super important spell in like rogue or something when spellcasting was first evolving. That's the first thing they thought of. 16:20 e.g. https://0x0.st/-BXL.txt 16:21 detect food is kinda epic for training divination though 16:21 there's no shame in dying to demogorgon 16:21 oops wrong chat 16:22 ah that's right. it's good to train so you can cast identify... 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:58845 16:22 May also just need food 16:22 lol noone has ever used detect food to actually find food surely 16:22 ha Dispater just disintegrated himself on my armor 16:22 I have. 16:22 Probably also want the appraisal intrinsic in case you're handling a bunch of corpses 16:23 Because people do forget 16:23 but why 16:24 it doesn't cost nutrtition ( i think? ) but yeah. I mean, it's not like there is hidden food. You're going to explore the level and find it 16:24 Sometimes you're low on nutrition and don't exactly have time to wander 16:25 now we know why umbire plays on his phone... Casting detect food is a big part of his strat 16:25 That'll probably loop around to being funny in about 50 more tries 16:25 qt thats super cool 16:26 VaderFLAG Nice! Serves him right. 16:26 I've only ever seen Dispater once on that Tourist I ascended 16:26 * rebatela shrugs. you're defending the lamest spell of all time umby. You really cast it sometimes looking for food? You're just being contrarian 16:27 TIL finding uses for stuff in NetHack was being contrarian 16:27 K2: I took it from this page, in case you want to check out the other Tiamat stuff in there to see if you can find something better: https://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/enuma.htm 16:27 no one casts that spell 16:27 You're acting like I'm making it a trademark spell or something 16:28 Everyone knows Umbire's trademark spell is detect food 16:29 Umbire "detect food" Fooddetector 16:29 Well I do get rather peckish IRL 16:29 Anyhow while you wear out the lifespan of that bit I should actually continue my Evil game 16:30 qt i like what you put on 0x0 16:32 Dunno if it's in the fragment that was sent but Tiamat was also slain by Marduk, do with that what you will 16:33 oh yeah I forgot Marduk was part of NetHack lore as well 16:33 Someone has to remember ;P 16:33 woah is this the big reveal that we're not War 16:33 we're Marduk 16:34 he is mentioned in the snippet I uploaded, Umbire: "Then advanced Tiamat and Marduk, the counselor of the gods" 16:34 the college counselor of the gods 16:34 "with your God Point Average you could make it into Astral U" 16:35 RA of the gods 16:35 (3rd class) 16:35 FM of the gods (floor monitor) 16:36 AF of the gods (assistant fluffer) 16:36 ^ dunno where that came from 16:37 alright time to collect the ice queen 16:37 Hm, elf-lord picked up a scroll of tele before I killed 'em 16:37 hopefully she hasnt acid blasted after school program to gehennom and back 16:37 but only found unlabeled scrolls 16:37 assuming GDSM passive-cancelled inventory 16:37 yes that 16:37 there's feedback when that occurs 16:38 k cya for now 16:38 Righto 16:40 Bleah, right, this was the issue I was having 16:40 My kingdom for a bag 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered X AE A-12, her faithful pseudodragon, on T:661 16:44 rebatela A situation where I am glad I just found a spellbook of confuse monster: I can finally start training enchantment 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:47802 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 628 points, T:953, killed by a piranha 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 669 points, T:2017, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 351 points, T:1107, killed by a giant bat 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 436 points, T:892, burned by molten lava 16:55 ...oops 16:56 !lastgame qt 16:56 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1620247999.evil.html 16:57 I think the Ice Queen fortress has more iron bars now 16:57 For the benefit of those troll archers 17:03 lol more iron bars inside the keep too 17:06 crystal chests can be [un]locked by mkot now in 0.7 17:06 i just remembered that 17:06 and wanted to share in case it is helpful 17:06 👍 17:09 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 467 points, T:1457, killed by a mountain dwarf 17:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:24 finally managed to buy protection. bedtime! 17:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:30 sleep well 17:31 oh missed them 17:42 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:43 Oh shit, my first player monster 17:43 Arc too, looks like 17:44 Asshole must have some Dex on him 17:45 Stole 3 of my weapons and stashed my saber 17:45 He tried to polymorph me 17:45 That's it 17:46 Got him! 17:46 Got a couple of bags out of it too 17:51 Sheesh, one of them is fucking heavy 17:51 Might not be BoH but still 17:51 Oh no it just has his tinning kit and other shit inside 17:52 And rocks, for... some reason. 17:53 Yeah these pack rats love picking up rocks for no reason 17:53 If they had a sling, I'd understand 17:55 K2'll probably be busy ironing out that stuff for 0.8 17:58 There is a human archeologist corpse named Pat the Exhumer here; tin it? [ynq] (n) │ 17:58 o - a tin of human archeologist meat. 17:59 You were a worthy foe 18:03 human archeologist meat? 18:04 No 18:04 human archeologist trophy 18:04 did you really create a tin of "human archeologist meat" or is it "human meat"? because it should be the latter I think, if it's not that might be a bug 18:04 Former 18:05 Helps that this is an 0.6 game 18:05 ohh ok 18:05 yeah that makes sense then 18:05 Why did you think it might be a bug o: 18:12 tinning a "human archeologist" should produce "a tin of human meat" as of 0.7, because of some changes to the way racial NPCs work 18:12 A corpse has no occupation 18:12 Not even tenure can protect you against death 18:16 qt: ic 18:33 "You hear someone jump into a saddle." 18:33 Oh boy here we go 18:34 LOL a hobbit's riding a wumpus 18:35 scared them both and he got thrown off 18:42 Goddamnit, not another arc 18:42 At least this one's peaceful 18:43 But I'm tempted to rob them anyway 18:44 At the least I'd love for them to stop digging up the place 18:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 410 points, T:1784, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 18:59 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Mars, on T:32331 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 193255 points, T:25863, choked on a stalker corpse 19:12 ooof nooo 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:32445 19:12 dbanethacker nooooo 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:60659 19:13 Well, would have liked to get a look at that sword 19:13 Too bad it got vaporized 19:19 VaderFLAG: is that a pet player monster? or is it one that is riding something? 19:19 lol it did? 19:19 the pros and cons of wearing BDSM 19:20 what sword? 19:20 oh the Kas thing? 19:20 the Sword of Kas 19:20 Kas wields it 19:20 It's my pet 19:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:21 oh it's the same one you were talking about yesterday? 19:21 Yeah 19:21 VaderFLAG you had one job... retrieve the Sword of Kas 19:21 Solaire's still alive! 19:21 he's stayed alive so far? nice 19:21 ONE - JOB 19:21 or she 19:22 Lots of liches here, I don't like it 19:22 Solaire has been great practice for new looting pets feature 19:22 best weapon against L's and you lost it :P 19:22 I didn't LOSE it 19:23 I didn't even know it existed 19:23 L O S T 19:23 is solaire a human caveman? 19:23 human caveman! 19:23 heh 19:23 What does it do anyhow 19:23 VaderFLAG i kid 19:23 I only saw 2h gemstone 19:24 thats it 19:25 gonna make me walk through a level that isn't magic mappable blind because of beholders. Jerk 19:26 \o/ 19:27 Vecna's magic is strong 19:27 YANI: monsters that are flagged as "likes gems" do not react to rocks, unless they have a sling or something. 19:28 K2: still don't remember the question but I have another 19:28 Illithid shop sell prices are 1/10, right? 19:29 x10 19:29 unless you are also illithid 19:29 No, I mean selling things TO the shop 19:29 then its normal 19:29 yeah 19:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 3614 points, T:4263, killed by a raven, while reading a book 19:29 hmm alright 19:30 I'll just have my cat steal shit I suppose 19:30 will still buy ID scrolls because I'd like those, I need to unload this gold somewhere and Clonegal's a nice squidlady 19:30 VaderFLAG when you get a chance, add this to your rc cfg 19:31 MSGTYPE=hide "Unknown command *" 19:31 But if my cat should happen to misappropriate things then what am I to do 19:31 come up with a plan 19:31 What for? Am I getting that msg a lot and my brain is just filtering it out? 19:31 yeah :) 19:31 (mobileuser needs to add it too hah) 19:32 good idea K2 19:32 I never thought of that 19:32 K2: Yeah, I really did find two eyeballs. :) 19:32 base item for Eye of Vecna but not supposed to be randomly generated 19:32 Arahael hah ok 19:34 K2: Makes me think now that whenever you kill someone with a blunt weapon, there should be a small chance of a random eyeball being thrown. 19:35 a random eyeball? there are multiple types? 19:35 also eww 19:37 FOOD("eyeball", 0, 1, 1, 0, FLESH, 5, CLR_WHITE), 19:37 that 2nd 1 is supposed to be a 0 isnt it 19:38 someone dbl-check me please 19:39 i wish objects.c made it ELI5 clear what each field represents 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Magician, on T:34397 19:40 Oh, it's pretty clear it means "wt". 19:40 * Arahael is being sarcastic there. 19:40 eyeballs don't weigh nothing 19:40 I think 'wt' means 'weight'. 19:40 wait, probablity is already 0 19:41 Yep. 19:41 my idea to have objects.c and monst.c be yaml files never really caught on 19:41 That was the other thing I noticed in that game, I was getting a weirdly high chance of really bad events, loads of freaking giants in the final few gnomish mines level, etc, and then of course, the four vrocks I got in the orcish temple. 19:41 so wtf are they appearing randomly 19:42 K2: make sure there's not some code somewhere like "pick a random object from TRIPE_RATION to MEAT_STICK" 19:42 good call 19:42 Anyway, gotta walk to work. During a rain storm. 19:42 Laters. 19:43 mkmaze.c:755 19:43 Is this Venca gaze attack going to instakill me if I'm not blind? Is this like saying hi to medusa without reflection? 19:43 K2 ^ 19:45 lol 19:45 aosdict and qt the bug finding tag team 19:45 its a gaze attack 19:46 gaze attacks dont work on you if you cant see 19:48 But will it instakill you if you can? 19:48 He doesn't want to say 19:48 IT's fine, I'll find out the hard way 19:48 I've avoided looking up the map in the code so might as well go all the way 19:49 i'm doing other things 19:49 one sec 19:49 I rescind my question! 19:49 Slow digestion ID'd 19:49 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/mhitu.c#L3243 19:50 if you have MR, you wont instadie 19:50 but it'll hurt 19:52 qt thanks for finding the thing with the stuff 19:52 (mkmaze.c) 19:56 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J36B4 19:56 [EvilHack] k21971 a8ea5c8 - Fix: eyeballs (food object) were appearing randomly. 19:58 deym 19:58 i just build it and gonna build it again 19:58 Now the eyeballs will appear every 100 turns 19:59 VaderFLAG did you skip out of Veca's stronghold? 19:59 Vecna 19:59 I chickened out 19:59 huh 19:59 my HP way too low for him 19:59 maybe try later 19:59 oh yes 20:00 also i'm nearly encumbered with all the stuff in the chests from his first level 20:00 food time bbl 20:08 Uh oh, I think something killed the peaceful arc I saw 20:08 sweet, free loot 20:08 maybe it'll be friendly 20:09 Even better 20:09 He found fucking Ludios 20:09 :,D 20:09 What a meme 20:09 wow i didn't realize the mplayer archeologist AI was so realistic 20:09 that's archeologists for you 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 417 points, T:436, killed by a mountain dwarf 20:14 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) had a platinum axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:31259 20:16 Had I bothered with the skill I would use it valorously 20:16 ...oh who am I kidding, ofc I am 20:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29 Altar on the same floor as Ludios Portal 20:29 Could probably do some shit with that 20:30 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3413 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1714 points, T:3417, killed by a vampire bat 20:34 amaterasu omikami abandoned me in my hour of need 20:38 I just had a thought 20:38 Gray dragon steed with barding of reflection 20:39 But that means much lower move speed and foregoing DBane 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:35668 20:41 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:43 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 20:44 My NPC pet is whacking an ogre lady with a cockatrice corpse and has been hitting her successfully for 50ish turns. Keeps saying "the ogre lady is slowing down" 20:44 He eventually killed her with melee damage from the rubber chicken 20:44 hmm 20:44 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 20:44 He just stoned a bugbear successfully after I whistled him away to let the process continue 20:44 Guess each time it was resetting the stoning process 20:45 each hit that is 20:45 yeah I bet you're right 20:48 Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug 20:48 Also an amusing mental image 20:48 Whacking the lady all over just to make sure every bit's stone 20:52 VaderFLAG: you were totally right about the issue 20:52 it is resetting the timer with every whack 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:62735 20:56 K2: ^ 20:56 well I meant for that to be the rubber chicken bug 20:56 but also like 20:56 first kill of Mephisto ig? 20:56 hi 20:56 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 20:57 huh 20:57 resetting the timer... that never happened before 20:57 at least not that I know of 20:58 K2: https://termbin.com/z7t5 20:58 doh 20:58 so the bug has been there *this whole time* :) 20:58 but only mhitm i take it 20:58 must review 20:58 yeah only mhitm I think 21:00 another spot in mhitm, that check is present 21:00 yeah I saw that 21:00 for stoning gaze or something right? 21:01 I also noticed that the second one (that already had the check) has a separate "foo is slowing down" message in addition to the one that prints from mcalcdistress 21:01 uhitm is ok 21:02 I think that message is redundant and probably should be removed, but my computer is running really slow right now and it takes like 4 min to compile so I haven't tested to confirm how that would change anything :) 21:03 damn 4 min? 21:04 i'm running a really resource intensive ffmpeg conversion in the background so it's running like molasses 21:04 probably not literally 4 minutes 21:04 it's normally way faster 21:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 30 points, T:36, killed by a jackal 21:06 your computer, HDD or SSD? 21:06 ^ nowadays that's the #1 bottleneck 21:06 HDD vs SSD 21:07 idk it's a macbook from 2015 21:09 gtop says ffmpeg is using 280 %cpu so I suspect that's the culprit 21:10 D: 21:17 ah 21:17 macbook from that year should have an ssd 21:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1054 points, T:1988, killed by Ms. Upernavik; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 21:19 I recently retired a 2013 mbp...  ...the new M1 mba rocks 21:20 only disadvantage is I can no longer depend on the laptop to warm my apt during wintertime 21:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J36rA 21:21 [EvilHack] k21971 a01d864 - Fix: mstone timer would reset everytime a monster attacked another monster with a stoning attack. 21:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:63257 21:28 Was fast enough to make off with the Norn's chest before I got forced back out again 21:29 Is there any protection against Orcus's maxHP drain that I don't know of, or is he a boulder fort must? 21:31 yeah that new 'wand' sucks 21:31 i usually just melee but he drained me pretty bad a couple times 21:31 I can't believe I'm saying this but I feel like it's too powerful 21:31 K2: did you get this already? https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/f2eef2116810de2cc9234b246426ef1441ea429c 21:32 i like it though. I mean, in the spirit of the game.. He's kind of a pushover in vanilla... 21:32 I like that it exists, but the drain amount is way too high 21:32 oic yeah probably 21:33 Any enemy that you will always boulder fort kill regardless of your loadout means either that enemy isn't quite right or boulder forts need to go away somehow 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 438 points, T:1542, killed by NetSysFire's ghost, while sleeping 21:34 damn it >:P 21:35 k2: I died because I thought the orcish shopkeeper was a normal orc and didn't pay attention when he wound up in the crossfire of my wand 21:35 this is your fault >:( 21:36 i would have ascended that game otherwise 21:38 i take full responsibility of shifting blame to amateurhour 21:39 qt i tried that fix for the polywand auto id and nothing changed 21:39 really? hmm 21:39 brb i have to do dishes 21:39 i forgot 21:40 I just tried it and it worked 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4612 21:43 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 513 points, T:1817, killed by a baby owlbear 21:46 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 21:52 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [*.net *.split] 21:52 -!- Arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 21:54 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 21:54 -!- Arahael has joined #evilhack 22:01 Excuse me? 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law), 144794 points, T:34138, killed by a silver dragon 22:01 !lastgame 22:01 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1608766116.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1620263085.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1620205936.evil.html 22:02 Right, lost track of my HP during all that 22:02 Entirely on me, lesson learned 22:02 Good luck getting THOSE bones items out 22:04 dishes done 22:04 qt it worked for you hmm 22:06 You write in the dust with a hexagonal wand (7 aum). 22:06 What do you want to write in the dust here? qt 22:06 Koa bites the jackal. The jackal is killed! 22:06 ^ nothing 22:07 Salutations Umbire, welcome to EvilHack! You are a lawful male dwarven Knight. 22:07 Sick, bearded axe time 22:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:36561 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36564 22:18 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:22 !who 22:23 K2: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil] coplate [evil] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] cccrow [evil] 22:23 http://0x0.st/-BPz.png 22:23 sheesh and I was just thinking "this dorf is probably like super-racist against orcs" 22:35 K2: to identify poly wand it needs an existing engraving to poly 22:35 ^ 22:35 oh 22:35 it's a bug if you engrave with poly on an existing engraving and you don't get "the engraving now reads ????" 22:39 i wasnt using it on an existing engraving 22:39 i didnt know 22:39 i dont engrave etst wands hardly ever 22:39 test 22:40 ...you don't? 22:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3697 22:40 [EvilHack] k21971 c759955 - Fix: engraving didn't auto-id wand of polymorph. 22:40 no i do really. i just said i dont because lulz 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9264 22:52 look away for 5 seconds and my horse gets offscreened by a zombie 22:53 ... while you weren't typing anything? 22:54 nethack: it only LOOKS like a turn based game :P 22:54 I mean in-game 22:54 :B 22:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57 finally, box is open 22:58 time to get in uglies 23:06 bad news, forgot box needed to be locked 23:06 good news, forge is on the same floor 23:06 bad news, forge on the same floor 23:17 YANI: Knights shouldn't get caitiff penalties against undead 23:18 Real honor before reason stuff right there 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 2631 points, T:5131, killed by a giant mosquito 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful djinni, on T:38713 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 94 points, T:249, killed by a goblin 23:32 K2: What's the damage like on centaur kicks, non-valk 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed Pelias, on T:38768 23:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1767 points, T:1579, killed by a gas cloud, while praying