00:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1163 points, T:2008, zombified by a hobbit zombie 00:08 -!- inSanity has joined #evilhack 00:11 !who 00:11 K2: [hdf-us] slarty [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players 00:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:41 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 00:43 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of leather gauntlets of protection, on T:14763 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:15303 02:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:34 -!- inSanity has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:18473 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:58 K2 possible demon infidel bug? I get "You feel a little drained..." after getting hit with a wand of death. 02:59 I'm supposed to be immune, haven't been able to check my intrinsics yet. 03:19 Wow, a 20% chance a summoned demon is hostile was sneaked into the same race sac fix 03:20 evil! 03:24 I see in the backscroll that VaderFLAG had to kill their quest leader. Must be hard to avoid as a knight with those constant "caitiff" penalties 03:25 Oh wait chaotic knight, hmmm.... 03:26 do you not have the knight rules if you're chaotic? 03:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:30 not sure 03:32 it would seem a little weird for a dark knight 03:42 !who 03:42 mobileuser: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players 03:47 it's surprising that noone's ascended 0.7 yet 03:47 has anyone killed vecna yet? 03:51 so impatient :-) 03:52 haha yeah 03:52 come on amateurhour, rush a monk to vecna! 03:52 hah I probably should try 03:52 maybe after work 04:42 wow there's many more NPC's in the dungeon than I'm used to 04:44 of course I'm wearing the amulet constantly, I don't know if others have noticed the same 04:45 it wouldn't surprise me if they're way more common now by mistake 04:57 I see that for every role a monster was added to monst.c 04:58 I suppose that makes it more likely an NPC gets randomly picked 05:11 Yay, potion of enlightment! Time to check my trinsics... 05:13 K2 "You are immune to the effects of death magic." but still a wand of death drained me. 05:13 scammed 05:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:37809 05:42 how're you finding 0.7 so far mobileuser? 05:43 giant infidel is good fun! 05:47 not easy to get good AC in the beginning, but with expert dagger skill and instant boulder forts it's possible to survive 06:26 Hmm, I just tried to "name" my magical banded mail, but it doesn't appear to work there. 06:32 individual name or type name? 06:34 type name won't work, you already know it's banded mail 06:34 typename. 06:34 Yeah, but I wanted dto say it's "telepathy". 06:35 It's "magical", afterall. 06:35 you can use an individual name 06:35 And I've determined that it must be telepathy. I suppose I might as well. 06:42 I have 56402 zorkmids in my stash and nobody yet to spend it on :-) And I haven't even looted Ludios yet. 06:43 woah high roller 06:43 next round is on you then mate 06:44 !bboze 06:44 mobileuser: Give it all to the temple! 06:44 !booze 06:44 * EvilBot throws mobileuser a tall glass of the hard stuff, decanted by Arsinoe at 207 Kelvin. 06:45 Arahael all priests except Moloch priests want to kill me ;-) 06:45 Will take a while to reach a Moloch temple 06:45 mobileuser: Wow, really? 06:45 Stash it then, or rob a shop blind with it and kill the shk later. 06:46 I'm already just killing the shopkeepers 06:46 Stash it is! 06:51 K2: I didn't think I'd like it, but I like the 0.7 behaviour for wrested charges from a wand. 06:56 is the one in the ice queen branch a moloch one? 06:57 I think it is! 06:57 It is, but it takes a long time to get there of course 06:57 would the valley be faster? 06:57 Yes. 06:57 No? 06:57 The monsters are much less tough in the valley. 06:57 Not for me 06:58 idk about less tough... 06:58 I would have to get past the castle first 06:58 the priests are all hostile, but can you tame them to calm them down? 06:58 Hmm. Tossing up between an uncursed +0 banded mail of telepathy, and a cursed mithril dwarvish chain mail. 06:58 amateurhour I don't think so, but I've never tried 06:59 amateurhour: What happens if you offer them money regardless? 06:59 amateurhour: They just refuse? 06:59 if they're hostile chatting does nothing 06:59 Ah. 07:00 Yep, the mithril dwarvish mail is definitely cursed. 07:00 I might give it a try later amateurhour when I have more taming scrolls 07:00 if it works that'll be great 07:00 I also want to experiment with NPC and taming :b 07:00 hahaha 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:1397 07:37 The spectre activates a figurine! 07:37 Now with the help of its fearsome pet lizard, I stand no chance against it. 07:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2257 points, T:2091, killed by a little dog 07:40 lol VaderFLAG 07:44 I seem to have found a real bug. 07:44 > add_to_mon: unknown attack type 240 07:45 > Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 07:45 ^ tagging K2 07:46 I'm dead anyway, so I'll probably just die. :( 07:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4380 points, T:3472, killed by a giant cockroach 07:49 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 07:49 I had teleportitis, and when I went down to mines end, it turned out to be the rat king's domain. And I teleported right next to the fricking rat king! :) 07:51 Arahael what led up to that error 07:51 shambling horror encounter? 07:52 No, just rat king and a bunch of rats and leeches and crap. 07:52 ok, what were you doing exactly right before you saw the message? 07:52 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:52 Arahael: yeah that killed me too once 07:52 I teleported right next to him and was trying to get away! 07:52 ok 07:53 suddenly teleported right next to the rat king (by a Q? maybe) 07:53 wasn't able to approach him strategically, died trying to get away from him 07:54 Oh, I remember! 07:54 K2: I teleported right next to him, then I used / to try and get more info about the rat king. I was hoping to learn if I could genocide him. I had a scroll, it was my only hope. 07:54 i see 07:54 K2: The instant I finished with that, I got all those messages. 07:55 so using the new 'pokedex' 07:55 (It's not just unknown attack type 240, but all sorts of attack types, all unknown) 07:55 Yeah. 07:55 (I guess!) 07:55 ok 07:55 thanks 07:55 K2: The ttyrec should be there, too, but I think that probably explains what you wnated to look at anyway. 07:56 yup 07:56 I've been finding the pokedex *extremely* useful, btw. 07:57 yes! great addition 07:57 i can reproduce it 07:57 hmm what other nice ideas from slex can be added to evilhack 07:57 K2: Oh, wow, that easily!? 07:58 K2: Is it specific to the ratking? 07:58 yeah 07:58 to both 07:58 paranoid trap and paranoid water :^) 07:58 there's special rules in monster lookup for lycanthropes 07:58 the rat king is kind of a hybrid 07:59 Fascinating. 07:59 so i need to make a special rule just for him 07:59 mobileuser i saw your report earlier about still being affected by death wands whilst being in demon form 07:59 I wish that eating the rat king gave you lycantrophy resistance. 08:00 wish in one hand... 08:00 lycantrophy in the other??? :) 08:00 :P 08:00 why would you want lycanthropy resistance 08:00 that prevents you getting intrinsic drain resistance?? 08:01 amateurhour: Woah, what? 08:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:01 if you have lycanthropy you get intrinsic drain resistance 08:01 it's a Truly Elite Strategy :tm: 08:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:01 amateurhour: Woah. 08:02 in variants where 'weldproof' is a thing it also makes you weldproof 08:04 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2553/source 08:04 ^ whoa 08:04 yeah it could be cool to leverage that into like, eating a tin of wererat meat before the valley, and then using =oPFSC or =oPC as a surrogate "ring of drain resistance" 08:05 or before vlad 08:05 it is Nifty (tm) 08:05 or amulet of unchanging 08:05 why sacrifice amulet slot if you can sacrifice a ring slot 08:05 plus all the pet doggos you get 08:06 K2: the goal here is to be a werewolf but never actually transform 08:06 ^ 08:06 or a werecreature, which is why I said wererat (no chance of busting armor) 08:06 but... doggos 08:06 will jackals do? 08:06 change once, get pets, revert 08:07 actually what happens if you're a weredemon and #monster 08:07 Or change once into a wererat. Get pets. Loads of them. revert. zap wand of poly. 08:07 Arahael: mass-polying pets is a good way to kill some of them by accident 08:07 then you have the big penalties 08:13 aosdict: Is that such a big deal by this point in the game? 08:16 Woah. Walked into the mines branch... Hmm, this looks like a bones. 08:16 Next turn: 08:16 > The gnome lord plays a magical horn directed at you! The gnome lady is killed by the bolt of fire! The bolt of fire hits you! Your cloak smoulders! You die... 08:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 716 points, T:993, killed by a bolt of fire 08:20 this is the way 08:22 I hope they do a second season of that show. 08:24 you mean 3rd 08:24 have you not seen 2nd season? 08:25 Ah, yeah, third. G'night! 08:26 gnite o/ 08:26 sleep well! 08:35 did you scan the backscroll yet K2? 08:35 [07:59] <@K2> mobileuser i saw your report earlier about still being affected by death wands whilst being in demon form 08:35 WHILST 08:35 oops :-) 08:35 you must have taken a break from irc to do some dishes 08:36 i think i see the issue with looking up the rat king with the pokedex 08:36 should be easy fix (knocks on wood) 08:36 I got disconnected at some point... 08:38 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:44 fixed it 08:46 \o/ 08:46 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3aeR 08:46 [EvilHack] k21971 03d6a44 - Fix: using monster lookup on the Rat King returned bad information. 08:50 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:51 hmm so when you get crowned as infidel, the MH_DEMON flag isnt actually set 08:51 it seems 08:52 hmm 08:52 sry mobi you were scamazed :( moloch just made you look like one 08:52 but you're harmed by silver 08:52 so it must be 08:52 i am missing something 08:52 should be easy to fix though 08:53 I think mobileuser also reported getting mad hungry as well after turning into a demon 08:53 perhaps hungerless regen is no longer hungerless as a demon? 08:53 just speculating 08:54 could be 08:55 the hungress condition is if your player race is giant 08:55 I haven't even tested yet if I am harmed by silver 08:55 you should be 08:56 ah lemme check the trinsics... 08:56 you cant even handle silver objects (except the Bell) 08:56 "You are harmed by silver." check 08:57 i think i see what to do 09:01 ' You are immune to the effects of death magic.' 09:01 'The death ray bounces! The death ray hits you! You seem unaffected. Steve bites the goblin.' 09:02 fixed it mobileuser 09:03 Yay! :-) 09:05 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3aUg 09:05 [EvilHack] k21971 9b17296 - Fix: crowned infidel transforming into a demon wasn't fully a demon. 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed ring of p'hul", on T:29898 09:21 !who 09:21 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players 09:26 !whereis omghax 09:26 mobileuser: omghax is not playing. 09:27 :-( 09:27 heh 09:29 -!- mode/EvilBot [+Zi] by EvilBot 09:29 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.7.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 09:29 !ping 09:29 K2: Pong! 09:29 rip 09:29 \o/ 09:30 [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/J3amB 09:30 [EvilBot] k21971 3c9a268 - Remove the 'rip' echo. 09:32 !who 09:32 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 09:47 rip :( 09:47 rip :( 09:48 rougelike 09:48 It's spelled roguelike. 09:53 RIP rip 09:53 Arahael fire horns are the worst. I always forget they do something like double damage of fire wands and regularly get wasted by them 09:56 hello chocolate donut. i shouldnt eat you, but i'm going to anyways 10:03 hmm is there a food in nethack for which that's a true sentiment? 10:03 like it has negative consequences but also nice benefits 10:04 tengu corpse maybe 10:06 "hello tengu corpse. i shouldnt eat you, but i'm going to anyways" 10:06 yup checks out 10:09 Ok, question about the Magic Mirror o' Merlin. In evilhack does it double any new beam spells too? Vanilla wiki mentions beam cone of cold, but not wand of cold. I can't figure out the flag in artilist.h or zap.c that would help me figure out the list 10:17 i think it affects wands too 10:18 but dont quote me 10:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:18 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Magic_Mirror_of_Merlin#Double_damage 10:19 ^ that would also be true in evilhack, i didnt change that aspect of the MMoM 10:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:23 Ok I just need to figure out where that list of effects is in the code. Gonna influence which wands I keep on me for killing stuff at range 10:23 the wiki code references weren't helpful 10:25 evilhack src/zap.c line 4156 10:25 if (is_hero_spell(type) && (Role_if(PM_KNIGHT) && u.uhave.questart)) 10:25 tmp *= 2; 10:25 part of zhitm() 10:26 basically just search zap.c for Role_if(PM_KNIGHT) 10:26 ah ha, thanks. here I am searching for merlin, mirror, instead of role 10:27 look in bhitm() also 10:27 So it's the is_hero_spell part 10:27 in conjunction with, yes 10:28 To get at which spells it affects, that is 10:28 Or maybe this is saying that it just doubles everything? 10:29 I USED to know how to read code decades ago, it's so frustrating getting old 10:32 tmp *= 2; <--- that 10:32 tmp in that case is the damage dealt 10:32 tmp *= 2 means take tmp, multiply it by 2 10:33 wait wtf... am I actually explaining code to someone? 10:33 what - is - happening 10:35 Crazy! 10:35 I get that part though 10:35 yes that part I get, I'm digging around to see which spell/wand types it gets applied to. 10:35 e.g. #define is_hero_spell(type) ((type) >= 10 && (type) < 20) 10:36 That just says it's a hero spell if it's in the 10-19 range, which implies that wands wouldn't get the bonus 10:36 since they're in the 0-9 10:36 but that can't be right 10:37 well, the mmom doesn't double magic missile damage from zapped wands 10:37 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Magic_Mirror_of_Merlin#Double_damage 10:37 ^ wiki says different 10:38 That's what I'm trying to reconcile 10:38 weird 10:38 bhitm doesn't filter on is_hero_spell, but zhitm does 10:38 Also my atrophying brain but there's no reconzining that 10:39 I think bhitm is "beam hit mon?" 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) murdered Again, her faithful little dog, on T:33614 10:40 so... mmom doubles the damage of the following wands: 10:40 striking, and undead turning vs undead 10:40 that's it 10:40 those are the only beam wands 10:40 K2 giant soldiers are not leaving corpses 10:41 ever? 10:42 Haven't seen one so far. But they should always leave corpses. 10:42 aosdict ah ha so in the bhitm it all gets doubled, but in the zhitm it checks if it's an effect in that 10-20 range? 10:44 oh no I see it does the dbldam check on some beam hits specifically 10:44 k - a giant soldier corpse (1450 aum) 10:44 soldiers (mercenary types in general) dont always drop a corpse 10:44 but they can 10:44 VaderFLAG: right it only checks specific cases in bhitm, but there is no filter on hero spell for dbldam 10:45 So then MMOM should work on the new lightning spell but still not work on the lightning wand 10:45 Thanks for helping me figure that out 10:45 giants should always leave a corpse imo 10:46 mobileuser you're killing them so thoroughly what's left can hardly be called a "corpse" anymore. It's just a few puddles of flesh and entrails 10:46 u - a dwarven soldier corpse (1450 aum) 10:46 ah i see why 10:46 VaderFLAG: and the wiki is misleading 10:46 erac is applied but i wonder if their size is adjusted accordingly... weight isnt 10:47 ^ qt 10:47 brb 10:48 This is one of the reasons I'm trying to get better at this aosdict - wiki can be confusing sometimes. Thanks again 10:49 am fixing the wiki 11:01 In 0.6 giant soldiers always left a corpse 11:03 the way they were created was completely different 11:04 now that racial is on the system qt made, small things may have been overlooked 11:04 you notice when i listed both a giant soldier corpse and a dwarven one? same weight 11:05 if i recall correctly, the size of the monster can sometimes dictate if it always drops a corpse on death 11:05 so i think MZ_ flags arent being set on racial monster creation 11:05 i need to confer with the master (qt) 11:06 thx, good to know! 11:07 thanks for reporting it 11:07 no, thank you! 11:07 no really, thank you 11:07 I insist, thank you! 11:07 seriously... thank you 11:07 ok, you win ;-) 11:08 lol 11:08 my boss and i do this 11:08 thank you (no thank you) [no really, thank you] etc etc 11:08 so who gets in the last word? :b 11:09 whoever doesnt crack up first 11:09 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:09 hahaha! 11:09 :P 11:10 VaderFLAG you here? 11:10 Ya 11:11 can you save real quick? gonna patch evilhack 11:11 yess 11:11 done 11:11 aaaand done 11:11 thanks, you can resume 11:11 mobileuser the commits from earlier are live 11:11 \o/ 11:14 What's an ndemon? 11:15 normal demon, not demon lord 11:16 oh, watch out for the sneaky 20% chance of summoning something non-peaceful 11:16 So 20% of the time you'll get dirge, but also maybe a hostile balrog along with it yikes 11:16 its mostly foocubi 11:16 in all the tests a did i never got anything stronger than a marilith 11:16 but that could have been because i was exp level 1 11:17 Damn I was going to try to collect all the demons in this game before you fixed it 11:17 yeah I think mkclass_aligned uses monster difficulty 11:17 heh 11:17 oh man VaderFLAG if you managed to get them all to astral... 11:18 they grudge against angels 11:18 Well the 4 I ahve are definitely coming with me 11:18 angels vs demons \o/ 11:18 Hopefully they'll do better than Yee and Jubie do, they die pretty fast on astral 11:21 grrrr shocking spheres 11:21 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 11:21 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest68336 11:21 -!- Guest68336 has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:21 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:22 -!- Guest68336 has joined #evilhack 11:22 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest75511 11:22 -!- Guest68336 is now known as VaderFLAG 11:22 the heck? 11:23 -!- Guest75511 has quit [Client Quit] 11:23 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 11:26 K2: please try this... https://termbin.com/y7u9 11:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:27 I'm sure there are a million other things like this that will need to be fixed in the future lol. good catch mobileuser 11:27 thanks qt 11:27 heh :) 11:28 i will have a look at that soon 11:28 * K2 saves the termin to file 11:28 termbin even 11:28 K2 try this: https://termbin.com/ad0r 11:29 OK! 11:29 Oh so the player monster being a valid polyform is live now? Better keep this guy healthy, he's the last of his kind? 11:29 er NOT being 11:30 yeah VaderFLAG it was patched, so if K2 has updated the version on the server already it shouldn't happen again 11:30 yes 11:30 amateurhour try this one - https://0x0.st/-a5D.txt 11:32 lmao 11:32 :) 11:35 two orcs trapped in a maze of thrones, graves, wands, and altars 11:35 brb 11:38 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 11:40 Arrrghh don't know what to do... Through a long chain of brutal mischance I am stuck on 11, my altar stash on 10 with Juiblex (and Lolth on 9), and wearing truly awful gear with no HP to speak of. And no stethescope, grrr 11:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:2430 11:42 Ranger 85HP -18AC Dragonbane Stormbringer P'hul with no healing; pretty confident I won't be able to carve through Juiblex in time 11:42 And with my luck he'll gate in a third demon prince 11:42 This all snowballed from dipping one goddamn potion 11:47 I think you can do it 11:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:48 Thank glob I'm immune to his crud 11:49 I'm thinking I should bounce around for a few thousand turns to see if I can find a stethescope or a couple healing potions before I risk it 11:50 Particularly uppity centaurs can sometimes take half my health 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1214 points, T:2882, killed by a gnome lady 11:56 VaderFLAG: collect all the demons? what is this, pokemon? 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 831 points, T:1836, killed by a giant bat 11:57 I hate not having access to a stethescope 11:57 Never know what the f is going on 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1003 points, T:2318, killed by a pony 12:11 krm26 sounds like me and my wife plans 12:12 no clue whats happening / no one tells me shit 12:12 Your game is really having its way with me this session 12:13 I escaped Lolth on 9 but Juiblex is sitting on my stash on 10 12:13 just kill them. you're in infidel. you do bad things 12:13 *an 12:14 I'd love nothing more than to kill them, except I can't even kill a water demon before it gates in another demon prince 12:15 hah so this wasnt from same race sacrifice? just bad luck with demons gating in demon lords 12:15 If the rng would give me even ONE healing potion I'd take a stab at Juiblex 12:15 I dipped a potion, popped a water demon, swung at it, LOLTH 12:15 hahah 12:15 Went down to 10 and built a stash there, played another 15k turns without really becoming decent 12:15 ACCIDENTALLY ascended back to 9, LOLTH! 12:16 Escaped back downstairs (phew) 12:16 Water demon followed and insta-gated in Juiblex 12:16 of course 12:16 I had TP control and a scroll so I bopped to the downstairs and descended 12:16 So that's my current state 12:16 i bet that water demon has a cousin who works at demon lord hq 12:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:17 I don't have a stethescope, swinging Stormbringer, "oR/P'hul, -17AC and 79HP 12:17 I feel like I'd be rolling the dice 50/50 trying to take down Juiblex right now 12:17 And of course I've never seen Lolth before so who the f knows 12:18 With my low low HP and no healing I'm reluctant to even try Scorpius 12:21