00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2913 points, T:3389, poisoned by an orcish arrow 00:55 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 20746 points, T:11405, killed by a chameleon imitating a minotaur 01:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:39 . 02:39 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2021-05-02 23:38 EDT: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/70da048a482342cc61c4f2e52268b5ac97e39008 02:42 , 02:51 So it was the need to sacrifice in time for infidels after all, good to know. 02:55 -!- inSanity has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:05 that commit message tho 04:18 -!- cccrow_ has joined #evilhack 04:20 -!- cccrow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29 -!- cccrow_ has quit [Quit: cccrow_] 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1002 points, T:1757, poisoned by a rotted floating eye corpse, while helpless 05:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) had an ironshod staff entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:31857 05:47 Woah, got a bit scared by a swarm of *green* @'s in minetown. 05:47 Turned out they were the town watch that just happened to be elvish. 05:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone crude dagger on an altar, on T:3332 05:52 Weird, I killed a giant soldier and a centaur soldier and neither left a corpse 05:52 and I had my tinning kit ready :-( 05:52 will keep an eye on that... 05:53 mobileuser: I've had long stretches where it seems nothing leaves a corpse. But that sort of makes sense, if you're using a cryptographically random source. There is still the chance, afterall, that you'll not get a corpse. 05:54 very large monsters should always leave a corpse 05:54 _always_? 05:54 even the "giant beetle" always leaves a corpse 05:55 maybe there is a bug with soldiers, so I will keep an eye on this 05:56 :) 05:56 giant bug :b 05:57 Heh. 06:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3617 06:10 Woo! Magic Lamp! :D 06:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3199 06:18 Hmm. Magical gold polished barding. 06:19 Don't think that's worth carrying. ;( 06:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:32276 07:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 10209 points, T:6305, killed by a greater homunculus, while sleeping 07:03 Hmm. A gnoll withering. 07:04 the gnoll zombie? 07:05 Looks like it. I'm terrified of it, so used a horn of fire. 07:05 good call 07:06 Awesome :) 07:06 But it'll probably come alive again when I come back up, hopefully I still have hte horn then. 07:08 Yay, thanks for fixing pets K2. Logged in and my 3 pets all now finally biting at this hobgoblin 07:11 VaderFLAG: What's the 'c'? 07:12 How do you know what it's turning into... Whilst you're engulfed!? 07:12 Yeah that's a bug 07:12 the c was a chicatrice 07:12 If that's what you mean 07:13 But not a pet c? Why did you hit the unicorn first? 07:13 I'd have gone straight to the c. 07:13 I have a lizard corpse so not too worried 07:13 Ah, ok. 07:13 Need that unicorn horn 07:13 Pet chameleon! 07:14 I did notice that! 07:19 VaderFLAG sweet 07:19 \o/ 07:19 'yeah that's a bug' <--- wut? 07:20 K2: VaderFLAG was engulfed, but was still intimately aware of what the chameleon was doing. 07:21 oh 07:21 it was changing form and he knew it WHILST engulfed 07:21 Hmm, just found a totally random "+1 pair of mithril hard shoes of excellence" 07:21 K2: Many times! 07:21 oooh shoes of excellence 07:21 you're styling now 07:21 I sure am! 07:22 walk that runway girl! 07:22 It's only a +1 bump. :( 07:22 Brings my Ch up from 10 to 11. 07:23 yup 07:23 for armor, the enchantment determines the cha change 07:23 Ah, of course, becau... Yep... 07:23 Still, tha'tll be cool. 07:23 for weapons, it goes straight to 25 when wielded 07:24 off to work 07:24 Enjoy your day. :) 07:35 K2 tiny wee bug: my wielded sword got blessed instead of cursed when I got crowned as infidel (I already knew fireball) 07:38 Wear absorbant pants. :) 07:38 mobileuser: Done for the day? I was just about to watch the game! 07:39 tbc! 07:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5880 07:41 :D 07:41 Need to think about my next strat 07:42 Ah. I don't do that thing. 07:43 Ooh, crap. Energy vortex out of nowhere. 07:44 Thanks for the reminder that I can be engulfed too now :-) 07:44 Haha. :) 07:44 I'm already engulfed!!! 07:44 I don't think I can dig out, and what's the point? It'll just re-engulf me. 07:45 As long as you have a good ranged option... 07:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (energy vortices), on T:5907 07:45 ah you nuked it 07:46 mobileuser: I do, but I didn't want to deal. I hate them! 07:46 a common sentiment 07:46 Plus, I didn't want the risk of getting shocked twice, I could survive one more, but two is a bit risky. 07:49 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58 K2 tiny wee bug: my wielded sword got blessed instead of cursed when I got crowned as infidel (I already knew fireball) <---- WTF OMFG 07:58 :P 08:03 K2: My +1 ring of increase damage seems *really* effective? 08:03 Or am I just super lucky in this game? 08:04 Hmm. I guess I'm just lucky. Killed two monsters. Got two wand deathdrops. 08:07 Good thing I caught that one before junethack! :b 08:07 i didnt mess with rings of increase 08:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 17508 points, T:10610, killed by a giant beetle 08:08 -!- inSanity has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 08:08 aosdict: Fourk is not the variant that zeroes your positive alignment before applying a negative. Fourk simply doesn't give you bajillions of positive alignment points every time you kill anything (unless you're a Barbarian). 08:09 which variant was I thinking of then? 08:09 K2: :) 08:09 aosdict: I don't remember, might be dnethack, or FIQHack. 08:09 K2: I shouldn't be distracting you! :( 08:10 Hmm, I suppose there's no point in doing soko. 08:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:7614 08:18 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 1015 points, T:1814, zombified by a diseased dwarf corpse 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 1078 points, T:1613, killed by a pony 09:01 Oh, possible bug? I enchanted my mithril dwarvish boots of excellence to +5. 09:01 But my Ch is still 11. 09:01 Mind you, I didn't actually check when I did it, so it's possible it went down by... 5!? in the mean time? 09:01 Now, when I take them off, my Ch is +6. 09:04 Well, bed time! 09:04 G'night all! 09:08 Sleep well! 09:12 Oh ho 09:12 tame human infidel named Shift 09:13 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:13 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:13 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 09:22 tame human infidel?? 09:22 OMG 09:23 gotta start taming NPCs! :b 09:24 Sadly it did not roll up any good stuff I could #loot after shapechanging 09:24 oh... 09:24 that was your tame shapechanger 09:24 Yeah :( 09:25 epic bug alert over 09:25 Being an infidel was so traumatizing it immediately changed into a sphere and blew itself up 09:25 lol 09:25 Oh no new sokoban 09:25 My old brain doesn't have the flexbility to deal with this 09:28 Ok what's the deal with gnolls 09:32 -!- jonadab has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 09:44 channeling seinfeld are we 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had a silver saber entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8470 10:19 VaderFLAG - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f5dd9f490b535fb20c4097b91bd0c93f9e53a344 10:20 ^ gnolls 10:20 and - https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gnoll 10:22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genitalia_of_spotted_hyenas <-- is this true of gnolls as well K2? 10:24 sure why not 10:25 asking the real questions 10:28 Lolth following me around. Wish I was fast so I could lose it 10:30 Have you done the same-race sac for Dirge yet? 10:30 Well dumb me didn't think a goblin would count as same race 10:30 So I wasted it 10:30 ouch :-( 10:31 Plenty of other orcs around though so, soon 10:31 \o/ 10:31 make sure you're wielding your long sword when you same race sac 10:31 A thing I often forget myself 10:32 eep, paralyzing bite and webs 10:32 Big spider I guess she is 10:33 lolth is no joke 10:34 nor is roflth but K2 didn't add them to evilhack 10:34 Ok Dlvl1 is now the lair of Lolth and I shan't be returning 10:34 we're not worthy enough for roflth 10:35 maybe lulzth 10:35 or roflcopterth 10:36 i didn think of this before and should have... if i want to help ensure all of the demon lords are present for selection when entering gehennom, they shouldnt appear when a chaotic does a same race sac 10:36 Yeah 10:37 could swap it out with a balrog or pit fiend instead 10:37 hmm 10:38 or re-roll if you pick a demon lord that's already been summoned 10:39 which demon lord is chosen on map load is done in the .des file 10:41 dont think you can have it check prior 10:41 maybe with 3.7's lua system 10:41 hmm 10:41 brb 10:47 it should just create the lair without the demon present? that's how it works at the moment. 10:49 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 10:50 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:53 doesn't that happen even in vanilla? 10:55 yeah 10:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:56 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish ring mail entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15478 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 374 points, T:839, killed by a little dog 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1608 points, T:2088, poisoned by a kobold zombie 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:10 11:36 Turn 10! 11:37 \o/ 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of copper falconry gloves entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17939 11:58 and he's not dead 11:58 must have gotten lucky and didnt get the owner 11:58 Astonishing 11:58 although me personally, that early, i would have wished for SDSM/GDSM 11:59 why 11:59 mjollnir he can get from saccing 11:59 I mean why that specifically and not something like dragonbane 12:00 that whole 50/50 chance of the owner 12:00 ah I see 12:00 and i just realized he's playing giant so dragon scale is a no go 12:00 yeah i would have gone for dragonbane then 12:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed krm26 the gnome zombie, and former Lookout, on T:3366 12:03 amateurhour - hdf-us: CPU load from process /slashem-0.0.8E0F2/slashem -u Roger ( PID: 25759 ) User: games has reached 87% for 7:01.02. Process was killed. <--- havent seen any of those since apr 30th 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20085 12:04 nice, though none of the PRs so far would do anything for those I think 12:04 well maybe the engulfed loop one 12:05 this one https://github.com/k21971/SlashEM/commit/234f062311f45e88fb761d874690cc9345c321c8 12:05 yup 12:05 how often were they before? 12:05 in dnh we could never figure out how to do it on purpose 12:05 a small handful per week 12:06 Riding my horse down a corridor: Bananabane kicks the cockatrice. Bananabane turns to stone! 12:06 and was climbing - I notice that as we get closer to June, there's an uptick in variant play 12:06 VaderFLAG yup 12:06 I guess the new high-tame mounts attacking on their own doesn't have a self-protection guarantee? 12:06 that's vanilla behavior. there's a 1 in 10 chance your pet will still do the dumb 12:07 Right but in vanilla they'll only return fire when ridden 12:07 So mounts are less protected now 12:07 RIP Bananabane 12:07 only return fire when ridden? 12:08 Didn't you add it that mounts will attack on their own now when tame >15 or something like that? 12:08 yes, they'll attack on their own without waiting on you to be attacked if tameness is 15 or greater 12:08 whilst being ridden 12:08 bananabane noooooooo 12:09 /o\ 12:09 Really wish you could whack a statue with an acid potion to fleshify it 12:10 Or something for non-casters to stone to flesh 12:10 there's a solution already 12:10 rebatela uses it often 12:10 Oh what's that 12:10 the different magical staves 12:11 That's still stone to flesh casting 12:11 staff of healing, if you're wielding it, shaves off 50% spell failure 12:11 but as a knight you can already train up healing spell skill i think 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3260 points, T:3842, killed by a wolf 12:12 yup up to basic 12:12 Sure but those poor cavemen and their pets! 12:12 the dungeons of doom are rough 12:13 That's not what I was told when I signed up for this adventure. They said it was full of booze and attractive demons - I'm sure they're on the next dlevel 12:13 :) 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2934 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20707 12:21 damn 12:21 you're killin it 12:21 Yeah getting pretty good sac gifts today 12:22 MML knows that the Big Level is right below me with maybe 50-60 monsters 12:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 293 points, T:652, killed by a water elemental 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:21354 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3391 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 228 points, T:465, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:49 it's vanilla behavior that your pet sometimes decides to attack a cockatrice anyway? 12:50 I've never heard any complaints like that from people playing vanilla 12:52 yes 12:55 hmm no i got that backwards 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:23627 12:55 touch_petrifies() is 100% no-go, things like gelcubes and green slime is 90% of the time 12:56 ok, time for a re-review 12:57 As badass as two-weapining axes would look, MML, enough with the weapons 12:58 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e082a28d6b8ffe057acd90b44244d2ddf5e428b5 12:58 ^ that's bypassing acceptable_pet_target() 12:58 ah ha! 12:58 I'm not crazy! 12:59 well... 12:59 :P 12:59 Not for THIS reason 13:00 to the wizmodemobile 13:01 brb 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:24656 13:23 I don't know, it seems that these NPCs are a lot better at stealing the amulet than before... 13:23 Now it's Caeleben the Mercenary making a succesful grab 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:25593 13:35 DIRGE 13:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:34636 13:36 Diiiiiirge 13:37 Maybe Dirge should be steel now that orcs can get it too 13:39 guessing you can't get like silver dirge of frost 13:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:07 you cant 14:25 My demon is getting hungry a lot sooner than I expected without spellcasting or jumping. I wonder what I inherited from my previous giant form. 14:25 Will have to wait for another source of enlightment 14:26 maybe hungerless regen is no longer hungerless 14:30 I'm supposed to be inediate now... 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Mal Una), 790 points, T:1377, killed by a giant bat 14:46 mobileuser: when you feel the urge to 'e'at that candy bar or cream pie, just ask yourself "am I really hungry or just bored?" 14:46 lol 14:47 why do people type things like "'e'at" or "(a)pply" when the audience consists of experienced nethack players who surely know the basic controls already 14:48 like the only thing you get by having 'e'at is telling the reader that the e key is to eat 14:48 for fun 14:49 I wrote it to distinguish between the character eating and mobileuser eating 14:49 spoken like someone who secretly doesn't know the basic controls and needs reminders 14:49 the 'r'eader is then aware that it's about an ingame thing 14:49 since I wrote it like 15 min after the discussion about the character eating had died down 14:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1477 points, T:2296, killed by a pony 14:59 -!- infinigon has quit [Quit: infinigone.] 15:00 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 15:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:20100 15:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:30 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 15:31 -!- infinigon has quit [Quit: infinigone.] 15:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:32 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 15:35 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:40 "The human student of stones turns into a gargoyle!" uh whut:-) 15:40 these dungeons are crawling with NPC's 15:40 I finally got a real one as a pet 15:41 Not some fake chameleon nonsense 15:41 you can tame npcs? 15:41 Well not REAL real, he used to be a horse 15:41 They're valid poly forms now 15:41 So traps, chameleons 15:41 wow, does it have a race? 15:41 yeah, I wonder about that 15:41 Yeah it's a human caveman 15:42 i can't remember whether I did that 15:42 oh cool 15:42 I named him Solaire and gave him Sunsword 15:42 Sounds like something unintended 15:42 Yeah it ain't right 15:42 FUN 15:42 But FUN 15:42 \o/ 15:42 I did add something to apply a race when a creature polymorphs into a racial mon 15:43 VaderFLAG have you tried to tame a real NPC yet? 15:44 well, an original NPC 15:53 -!- hothraxxa has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- rebatela has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- amateurhour has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- aoei has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- FIQ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- nabru has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- Not-80da has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- bouquet_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- qt has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- Arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- Umbire has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- K2 has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- infinigon has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [*.net *.split] 15:54 they have all left us elenmirie_ 15:54 Hi EvilBot 15:54 we are alone 15:54 the bot is going to kill us 15:55 lol! 15:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- Not-80da has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- hothraxxa has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- bouquet_ has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- Arahael has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- aoei has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- FIQ has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by tolkien.freenode.net 15:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55 all hope is gone! 15:55 oh, there they are all back again! 15:55 phew! 15:55 \o/ 15:55 thank heavens, that was half a second in the apocalypse 15:56 did you both get netsplit or something? 15:56 oh yeah I see 15:56 evilbot too! 15:56 yeah, mobileuser and I were alone with the Evilbot 15:56 !ping 15:56 amateurhour: Pong! 15:56 yeah NOW EvilBot plays nice 15:56 oh the three amigos formed a secret #evilhack club without us huh 15:57 we were scared! 15:57 alone with EvilBot 15:59 I was here too. 15:59 ← Umbire has left (*.net *.split) 15:59 nope 15:59 :-) 16:00 This needs to be ported to xnh/vanilla 16:00 Oh that's nice 16:00 * elenmirie_ has quit (*.net *.split) 16:00 * mobileuser has quit (*.net *.split) 16:00 * EvilBot has quit (*.net *.split) 16:01 Misunderstood at first but I suppose this is useful for what a split looks like from each side 16:07 Ok I see from patch notes: Spheres cause real explosions / new spells: flame sphere and freeze sphere 16:08 How are they different from the explosions of fireball/cone of cold? 16:08 The explosions created by spheres are one-time 16:08 well before they'd just do damage and now they also burn your stuff/freeze your potions 16:08 ^ 16:08 iirc 16:09 They're made into real explosions akin to gas spores/those spells/etc. 16:10 Oh they're the monster spells 16:10 We can cast them now 16:11 Makes sense 16:11 The sphere spells were deferred features if I recall 16:11 ah that's why I have a hardback spellbook - new spellbook types required 16:11 I know SLASH'EM has the fire/ice mage roles that utilize these 16:11 yep 16:12 I'm glad I haven't met a shocking sphere yet 16:12 doh 16:13 player monsters arent supposed to be a valid polyform 16:13 qt did the racial thing make them valid? 16:13 I wonder if I can self-poly into another role 16:14 Collect All Quest Artifacts Challenge 16:15 it shouldn't have K2... I will take a look at it 16:15 thanks 16:17 haven't looked at evilhack commits in a while 16:18 are there any that would give Team Whinge forehead wrinkles and frowny faces 16:18 Team who 16:18 don't all the teams whinge? 16:19 Team Whinge are like the power rangers but they use complaining rather than giant robots 16:19 to defeat evil ideas in the world 16:21 damn it all sounds good 16:21 I think you've just described the internet 16:21 I've whinged about puddles? 16:21 Does that count? 16:22 if they are evil puddles 16:22 evil! 16:22 get thee behind me, puddle! 16:25 what's the deal with airline food^W^W puddles? 16:26 One pink puddle paddled up the pool, while another pink puddle paddled down! 16:27 that sounds like it could be a nursery rhyme 16:27 ohh k2 I think I see what happened 16:27 \o/ 16:27 with "poodle" instead of "puddle" it was a choir warmup exercise :D 16:27 you moved the player monster permonsts before "long worm tail" in 5940e7b8e3cc314277f1595549af82dd3a6f7679 16:28 random polymorph selects between 0 and long worm tail so that moved them into the valid range of monsters that can be selected 16:28 lol 16:28 ah hell i never moved them back 16:28 that's save-breaking 16:29 break them saves 16:29 F 16:29 don't break them saves 16:29 or, just adjust the 'long worm tail' bit 16:29 i'll figure it out 16:30 you go, K2! 16:30 \o/ 16:30 Well, at least VaderFLAG gets to have some fun with a tame NPC :-) 16:30 isn't this the kind of thing that god made editlevel for 16:30 For now 16:31 no, if you add/take away/change order of anything in objects.c or monst.c, breaks saves 16:32 isn't the editlevel thing a hack to make you play your editlevel version binary though 16:33 or am I misremembering what it does 16:33 like all new games would use the binary with the fix, all current games would continue playing without it? 16:35 K2 breaks saves in twain with his powerful stride, like a child crushing ants on a sidewalk -- they are so insignificant to him that he doesn't even notice 16:35 honestly i dont know amateurhour 16:35 qt: well put 16:36 tremble, mortals! 16:37 he does not concern himself with the petty affairs of evilhack players, he's on a much higher plane than that 16:37 rofl 16:40 yeah K2 it's like an extra value in the version 16:43 Same-race sacrifice has now given me 3 named demons 16:45 ok so i can prevent your steed from attacking anything not considered acceptable if its super tame and you're riding it 16:45 the second it gets attacked though, it fights back 16:45 Sensible 16:45 which i think happens regardless 16:45 needs further testing 16:46 qt - player monsters have to come before long worm tail, otherwise they never randomly spawn 16:46 4 named demons 16:47 oh hmm 16:47 ./* Note: 16:47 * Worm tail must be between the normal monsters and the special 16:47 * quest & pseudo-character ones because an optimization in the 16:47 * random monster selection code assumes everything beyond here 16:47 * has the G_NOGEN and M2_NOPOLY attributes. 16:47 */ 16:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:48 player monsters are still flagged M2_NOPOLY though 16:48 it would be simple to just make mplayers totally invalid polymorph targets, but the problem is that doppelgangers are allowed to turn into them 16:48 so there's a special exception to the M2_NOPOLY flag in there that permits them as targets 16:48 (for doppelgangers) 16:48 hmm 16:48 thats fine 16:49 did i miss something in the convo? 16:49 the only way they are prevented from being polymorph targets is their placement after the worm tail 16:49 what do you mean? 16:49 who has the tame player monster? 16:49 I do, via poly trap 16:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:49 i see 16:49 but wait 16:49 M2_NOPOLY 16:49 wtf 16:49 Bruh moment? 16:50 i have to go get my kid. back soon 16:53 K2: the M2_NOPOLY flag doesn't actually do anything for mplayers, the only guard against them being selected is their placement after PM_LONG_WORM_TAIL 16:54 Yay, my first exploding wands of 0.7 16:54 Congrats 16:54 \o/ explosions 16:56 the humble energy vortex delivers the goods 16:56 @e?energy vortex 16:56 energy vortex (v) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d6 engulf shock, 2d6 engulf magic drain, 0d4 passive shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, vegan 16:56 Hate those things so much 16:57 they're so nasty, if I get an early geno even in vanilla I often pick them 16:57 Arahael genocided them earlier :-) 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:36138 17:17 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20 VaderFLAG 4 peaceful named demons? 17:22 4 17:22 Yes 17:23 ^ K2 bug or intended? 17:23 When my pet says they can't carry any of my X, that mean they're at an encumbrance limit? 17:24 Were there new demon lords/princes added? 17:24 Also yes 17:24 Yes several 17:24 Then they were probably made eligible for summoning 17:24 VaderFLAG: it normally means that... there are a couple other exceptions, like if it's a hated material or something you will see the same message 17:25 Ye 17:25 but if it's printing that no matter what you try to give them, they are probably at their carry cap 17:25 This joker has stuffed his sack with a ton of stuff, so I assume that's why he doesn't want a food ration 17:25 Umbire Normally it's 2 major demons and then foocubi 17:25 Was it stuffed with the essentials at least? 17:25 It's mostly junk 17:25 lol 17:26 mobileuser: New demon lords and princes were added so they were likely made eligible like Yeenoghu and Juiblex are 17:26 That's likely since I have not gotten any old non-Yee non-Jub demons 17:26 yeah, I just wonder if there should be a limit 17:26 well maybe they just wanna hold a convention 17:27 :-) 17:27 I haven't seen new hell yet, but it seems like same-race sacrifice should only summon non-named demons now 17:27 why should it only summon non-named demons? 17:28 There's no guarantee the summoned demon lords/princes will have their lair generate 17:28 ...is there? :thinking: 17:28 that's right Umbire 17:30 Oh, right, I guess if there's just a limit on the number it can summon you'll still see 4 in hell 17:31 Collect them all! :b 17:42 i need to make some tweaks for that 17:48 when i added the new demon lords, i re-did what was flagged as a demon lord vs demon prince. devteam actually had that screwed up 17:48 per ad&d monster manual that is 17:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:48 so long story short, there are more demon bosses flagged as M2_LORD 17:49 Ah interesting 17:50 so i have at least 3 commits to do tonight - the fix for super tame steed attacking things they shouldnt, the player monster being eligible as polyfoem (thanks qt for the termbin, love you) and i want to redo what spawns when you sac same race as a chaotic 17:51 L O V E 17:51 U 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:36971 17:54 You murderer! 17:54 :) 17:56 New Oracle went 1v1 against level 30 caveman and won - caveman was too depleted and stopped attacking when oracle had 1hp left 17:57 :D 17:58 My giant just put boulders around the Oracle :b 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9356 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:05 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3zrs 18:05 [EvilHack] k21971 307d399 - Fix: super tame steeds attacking monsters they shouldn't while being ridden. 18:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3z6q 18:22 [EvilHack] k21971 8c8f7fe - Fix: prevent select_newcham_form() from choosing player monsters as a valid polyform (except for doppelgangers). 18:42 I'm still waiting for displacer beasts and/or shimmering dragons 18:42 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 18:43 what do you mean Umbire 18:43 I mean 18:44 I am eagerly awaiting the juncture at which, having seen that monster displacement is now possible in the vanilla game, you may decide to add displacer beasts, shimmering dragons, or a combination of both to your variant of the game. 18:44 so shimmering dragons have been in since the beginning 18:45 and displacer beasts were added last year 18:45 And they are both super obnoxious 18:45 did you mean to direct that at aosdict/xnethack? 18:46 It's also true in xnh's case, but I don't recall you ever mentioning you added them 18:47 Probably missed that memo 6_9 18:47 It means you're not playing evilhack enough clearly! 18:47 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9da63f8c2d3cf91f6c15090be04f56eebc3babf6 18:48 ^ 2.5 years ago 18:48 Coo 18:49 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ed751c6abd47e3663bc153affeb06eace4542acc 18:49 ^ july 2020 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) murdered Lassie, her faithful little dog, on T:314 19:00 VaderFLAG i'm really interested to know when you reach gehennom, if any demon lairs you come across are empty of their boss 19:00 Yeah I'll report if Ixoth doesn't toast me 19:00 :P 19:01 it's either them or gel cubes gonna get me this game 19:01 I wonder how different Evil Ixoth is 19:01 Speaking of, I should prob. start on the dragon articles now 19:02 Ixoth is the same in evilhack except due to being a spellcaster has a larger range of spells to cast, I *think* 19:03 And the changes to all the nemeses being nonscarable and such 19:09 Right 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9945 19:31 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 19:36 Umbire: xnh has displacer beasts unchanged from vanilla, and I have no plans to add shimmering dragons unless the devteam does it. 19:36 :c 19:36 * Umbire cries 19:37 I don't think shimmering dragons are that interesting of a monster. 19:37 But I'll take them if vanilla gives them to me for free. 19:37 what about shimmying dragons 19:38 instead of fighting them hand-to-hand you have to face off in a dance battle 19:38 Necrodancer patch when 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:10538 19:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:03 Uggh, water demon on level 9 gated in Lolth 20:03 Guess I'm never going above level 10 again 20:03 Yeah, else that might be your ass 20:04 That's a cruel turn for diluting a potion 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:22066 20:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:16 ugh, chameleon appeared as a master mind flayer and almost gave me a heart attack 20:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:12069 20:17 Woah. Bigroom was a bones. 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Mars, on T:22515 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law), 612 points, T:1128, killed by a rothe 20:31 did i have good bones 20:31 been dying with lamps lately... not sure about that game 20:34 rebatela: Not sure what you had, but you had a ton of wands - and yes, one magic lamp. 20:34 rebatela: So I have to think about what to do with the spare lamp now. :D 20:34 Thinking Crystal Plate Mail. 20:38 Ring of P'hul! 20:39 The Ring of P'huls Gold 20:40 If you are chaotic and you're not wearing it, that is the wish for sure 20:41 Then there is always the blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance named FO VLAD 20:50 Shit 20:50 I just remembered dnh allows alignment abuse to lower your maximum record 20:50 Could've suggested that for the abuse record thingy 20:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1439 points, T:2615, killed by a gnome lord 21:04 New meat for evilhack! 21:19 krm26: but i already have free action! 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a green slime, on T:24079 21:20 krm26: tshirt sounds good though - should be far better than my +0 leather tshirt 21:27 Ring of P'hul is more than just free action -- also MR, freeing up another equipment slot 21:27 Dragonbane + Ring of P'hul = maximum gear flexibility 21:27 And substantially better than what I'm wearing, which is my bare ass thanks to the centaur with the wand of polymorph 21:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3zhQ 21:30 [EvilHack] k21971 e8f34a4 - Change dlord() to ndemon() for sacrificing same race on chaotic or unaligned altar. 21:40 The lichen nimbly dodges the gnome zombie's bite! <--- hahah 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:40357 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40358 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) murdered Meow, her faithful kitten, on T:25131 21:48 I've had a couple of monk player monsters show up with no inventory, I thought they had stuff before, but maybe that's just monkly 21:50 detachment from worldly possession, the better with which to detach you from this mortal coikl 21:50 coil* 21:50 AC9 gets their heads detached pretty fast 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:40777 21:54 No, you can't have it back. 21:54 Whoa, that's fucked up 21:55 So whose head's next? 21:55 He demanded the mirror! What am I supposed to say, sure, here, take it? tsk 21:56 Grr, gonna be polyed like a thousand times before I find MR 21:56 I'm just saying, that's an extremely messed thing to do 21:56 I've had a couple of monk player monsters show up with no inventory, I thought they had stuff before, but maybe that's just monkly <-- i know why that's happening 21:56 (and thus in-character) 21:56 ((arguably)) 21:56 was fixed when player monsters and player templates were separate 21:56 and now is broke again 21:56 easy fix 21:57 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/J3gfI 21:57 [EvilHack] k21971 aa2d87a - Fix: The lichen nimbly dodges the gnome zombie's bite! 21:59 How come Excalibur complains about being twoweaponed with Dirge, but not with Angelslayer? 22:00 you cant dual wield lawful/chaotic together. angelslayer was changed from chaotic to unaligned in 0.7 22:00 Dirge is a direct antithesis I imagine 22:00 Also yeah that was smart 22:00 ah ha 22:00 so Infidels can get it 22:00 yup 22:00 Was going by wiki entry 22:00 good to know 22:00 wiki still needs updates 22:00 i've done some but there';s still more to do 22:00 Lawful types might need it for the renegade/fallen angels 22:00 K2: Hey, you need wiki shit done, I'm your @ 22:01 cool 22:01 I'm in the middle of updating the backup file I have for the dragon page 22:01 Oh this means I can actually use sunsword in this run, awesome 22:01 Ugh acid spheres 22:01 so I can also add the Dragonbane shit 22:01 Sorry solaire, I'm takin it back 22:01 Man I wish Lolth hadn't boxed me out 22:01 That means you can give him Angelslayer 22:02 I think I'll give him excalibur and switch between Dirge+Angel and Sun+Angel 22:02 The half spell damage and searching is too good to waste on a caveman 22:02 .7 is fun so far. I sleep! 22:03 gnite and thanks! 22:04 Night! 22:05 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:06 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:07 does rodney steal P'Hul? 22:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3gJu 22:09 [EvilHack] k21971 08cb486 - Fix: player monster monks spawning without gear. 22:09 yeah 22:09 but free action isnt a ring monster will wear 22:09 monsters 22:10 so i dont think its that iseful to me then. sure, it free's a slot, but i already have a cloak of mr, and the quest artifact also provides mr 22:11 sick res 22:12 that would be handy when fighting yeenogu... hmm 22:12 demogorgon you mean 22:14 i forgot about him but doesnt yeen cause sickness? 22:15 Nah, you're probably thinking of Demo 22:15 Yeenoghu is the stunning guy that I can recall 22:17 green demon? lives in the swamp and loves engulfing? 22:18 That's Juiblex 22:19 And you can cure the terminal illness p. quickly most times 22:19 Granted not having to worry about it period is a plus 22:20 ah, indeed, was thinking about jub. 22:20 but yeah... seems a bit of a waste of a wish for sick resis. 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1114 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 240 points, T:1117, killed by a giant mimic 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) murdered Arf, her faithful large dog, on T:27478 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:3696 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] slarty (Pri Orc Fem Cha), 639 points, T:3035, killed by a wererat, while praying 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 5918 points, T:5883, killed by a snake 23:38 So much for all that. No wish! "You disturbed me, fool!" 23:41 So sad. :( Moving a corpse to teh altar; suddenly a winged gargoyal. 23:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 46381 points, T:13054, killed by a winged gargoyle 23:43 !lastgame 23:43 Arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/coplate/evilhack/dumplog/1620096745.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1620008512.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1620068077.evil.html 23:57 [hdf-us] [evil] slarty (Inf Elf Fem Una), 65 points, T:427, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse