00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a wolf), on T:12892 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 25940 points, T:13036, killed by a bolt of cold 00:40 > The master mind flayer disappears! You notice a bovine smell. 00:40 Hmm. 00:40 Shapeshifter turned into a MMF, then into a non-telepathic form 00:40 My first guess is minotaur 00:45 Ah. I was thinking... We don't have cows in the game. 00:47 The smell thing doesn't occur that much with me unless I'm explicitly dealing with zoos 00:47 And even then most times I can already see the new form via blind-telepathy 00:48 Yeah, it's unusual. 00:49 I mean not especially so, wish it got a BIT more use 00:50 Yeah. 00:50 It's rare enough to think "Uh? That's really odd." 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Sam Gia Fem Law), 7974 points, T:4929, killed by a human zombie 01:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7869 03:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:15 /close 03:15 -!- cccrow has left #evilhack 04:03 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 04:06 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 05:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 21784 points, T:9181, killed by an earth elemental 05:54 That would wipe ~30 HP each turn, and my wand of teleport was empty. :/ 05:55 Curiously, maxed staff skill barely made a dent. 06:30 :@ 06:31 K2 shallow pools *immediately* dry up??? 06:32 Absolutely thoroughly very historically hate that 06:33 mobileuser: Not always. 06:33 lol mobileuser 06:33 I've 2 in a row now 06:33 * had 06:34 OK, I'll keep trying 06:34 3 06:34 4th lucky 06:36 OK, my intense hate is slightly less now 06:46 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 07:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 432 points, T:862, killed by a fire ant, while being terrified of a ghost 07:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:25010 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering an iguana corpse on an altar of Lugh, on T:3485 07:28 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:28 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 07:32 Congrats VaderFLAG on the last 0.6 asc! Good luck in 0.7 :-) 07:32 I'm going to get the final 0.5 asc, just you wait 07:32 I believe in you, you got this 07:33 haha 07:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:28514 07:51 Someone mentioned passive pets earlier? My pet doesn't seem to want to kill anything 07:51 But it's more like a 90% decrease in action from what i'd expect not 0 07:53 perhaps something is wrong with the "100% health equals more willingness to attack" code? 07:55 Pet nightmare is very eager to fight when saddled 07:55 But not when unmounted 08:03 K2: in 69eddfe339 you changed the generic message for an engulfer that can't engulf from "x hits" to "x bites", which means that fog clouds now bite you 08:03 qt: Message from K2 at 2021-05-01 16:35 EDT: this is what I have for allowing a bearded axe to chop down trees/doors - https://termbin.com/78hc - first swing is always a 'swoosh' though. still looking at it 08:03 the fog comes in with little cat teeth 08:04 I recognize that reference but don't remember what it's from 08:05 ah it's in nh encyclopedia 08:05 oh really? 08:05 it's from this poem https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45032/fog-56d2245d7b36c 08:05 what's it the encyclopedia entry for? fog cloud? 08:05 yeah the 'fog cloud' entry 08:09 I wonder if "twisted" is inherently fooproof 08:11 you're twisted 08:12 I think twisted is one of the iron ones 08:13 Ah ok, so that would make sense to fooproof 08:13 huh actually twisted is METAL in xnh 08:13 no idea about evil 08:13 hmmm 08:15 k2 here's my axe solution https://termbin.com/0yow 08:16 actually maybe i replaced a few too many uses of "swoosh" 08:17 it looks like METAL in evilhack aosdict 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had a silver katana entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7143 08:18 that makes sense, otherwise elf would suffer even more 08:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 08:22 K2: here's my revised axe solution, only like 2 lines of code but I think it works. the other one changed too many "swoosh"es https://termbin.com/io69 08:22 btw I think that the "there is not enough room to use your axe" (and the similar one for underwater) should be changed, because they are printed like this "you hit the fog cloud. there is not enough room to use your axe." 08:23 clearly there's enough room to use your axe if you hit the fog cloud with it, there's just not enough room to use it to hook something/disarm an opponent... 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible zor's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:6973 08:34 !lastgame zor 08:34 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/evilhack/dumplog/1595473208.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/evilhack/dumplog/1619913422.evil.html 08:40 hi 08:40 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:40 there's a use_pick_axe2() ? 08:42 yeah it is just the pick axe bits without the direction prompt 08:42 so you can call it if you have already prompted for a direction and skip right to the pickin' and axin' 08:42 i didnt know that was a thing. awesome 08:42 yeah I just noticed it when I was looking at the code 08:42 so the 2nd termbin, thats all i need? 08:43 i believe so 08:43 alrighty 08:43 thank you 08:43 no problem! 08:43 i'll look at the 'fog cloud bites' thing heh 08:44 I told my girlfriend about the "thanks for your support" thing and she has started saying it to me too 08:45 what even is it 08:45 qt: lol nice 08:46 hahaha 08:46 qt: try asking her to name random things she is grateful for 08:46 amateurhour: https://0x0.st/-aWD.txt 08:46 it sounds really corny 08:46 but it's nice 08:47 hey amateurhour what are you grateful for this fine Sunday 08:47 the fact there's no work tomorrow as it is a bank holiday 08:47 sweet 08:48 im grateful for my friend rescheduling some plans for next Saturday cuz it means i have more time to be lazy^Wdo chores around the house c: 08:48 more time to be do chores 08:48 yea i just saw that too qt 08:48 should have put two ^Ws >:) 08:48 yes >:) 08:50 i'm grateful that I get to do dishes today 08:50 fuckin' DISHES 08:50 K2: like you, mobileuser is grateful for this 08:50 he's grateful for this every day 08:51 as we should 08:51 this is the way 08:51 some people dont think it be like it is 08:51 but it do 08:52 amateurhour: do you work at a bank? 08:52 I don't understand british bank holidays 08:52 bank holidays are public holidays 08:52 and always fall on a Monday i think? 08:52 sometimes the full expression is "bank holiday monday" 08:53 nope, if the day the bank holiday would have been on is a weekend it's moved to monday 08:53 ooooh right 08:53 yeah 08:53 that's it 08:53 my holidays are determined by the new york stock exchange 08:53 it's just what we call public holidays, because even the banks shut on them 08:53 rather than the banks deciding when they occur :P 08:54 amateurhour: here holidays don't get moved if they fall on a weekend :( 08:54 lol rekt 08:54 yeah :( 08:54 qt, i did the change from your 2nd termbin - https://termbin.com/io69 - nothing happens if i apply my bearded axe against a tree 08:54 ok maybe I removed one too many use_pick_axe2s from my initial change then lol 08:54 lemme look again 08:54 k 08:56 hmm, it works for me... did you undo the changes in the termbin you sent first? the diff is against the current master branch version of apply.c 08:56 oh wait 08:56 i deleted an } else { that i shouldnt have 08:56 i need to wake up 08:57 this is a weird dream you're having K2 08:57 why are we all in it 08:57 hahaha 08:57 i have had dreams with some of the nethack people in them before lol 08:57 amateurhour, in my dream we're in a beautiful meadow, the sun is shining. we're holding hands and skipping 08:57 i don't remember who tho exactly 08:57 K2: lmao that's cute 08:58 and everytime you speak, it comes out as asan coredumps from fuzzing 08:58 haha 08:58 ok this just became a horror story 08:58 XD 08:58 i had a dream last night that my nethack PRs got closed and then a monster came into my house and killed me 08:58 heh 08:58 when i woke up my PR was closed so fingers crossed the second part is not accurate 08:58 closed as wontfix works as intended *fleecybundles* 08:59 amateurhour: XD 08:59 notabug 08:59 amateurhour: today i am also grateful for the pizza i am going to have delivered to my flat in a few hours 09:00 qt works. i have the dumb 09:00 thanks 09:00 (for your support) 09:00 lol 09:00 :) 09:01 -!- Not-80da has joined #evilhack 09:01 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J34mX 09:01 [EvilHack] k21971 834e221 - Fix: allow dwarvish bearded axe to chop down trees/doors. 09:01 ;o 09:02 pog 09:02 it's just an ordinary axe with a comedy beard attached, right? 09:02 * aoei pictures... yeah that ^ 09:02 I think it's an axe that a gay man uses to appear straight 09:03 haha I'd forgotten that usage of beard 09:04 isn't that usage pertaining to lesbian women, not gay men? 09:05 "gnoll witherling" omg 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish helm entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8980 09:06 wow manannan mac lir, what a great gift 09:06 I certainly can't find three of those on dlvl1 09:06 maybe you're right aosdict, I couldn't remember for sure 09:06 Hey man, my AC went down by a whole 2 points 09:06 Thank you MML! 09:06 "You're such a good believer! I have something special for you." *orgish helm* 09:06 *orcish 09:07 This guy is an orc, I bet he likes orc armor 09:07 "who's a good believer? you are! yes you are!" 09:08 you get a racial bonus for wearing orcish armor 09:08 in reality, an upgrade of 2 AC for a sacrifice is actually quite well balanced, compared to an endgame tier prize like grayswandir or stormbringer 09:08 but we're all conditioned to expect endgame tier prizes 09:08 Yeah it's totally fine for early sacrifice gift 09:08 but it being only at 2 AC improvement, you sure? 09:08 it should be enchanted 09:08 I already had a +1 orcish helm 09:08 you could go the slex route and make sacrificing for gifts pointless 09:08 oh i see 09:09 10% chance you can ever get your first sac gift 09:09 reduced odds of ever getting a gift from sacrifice 09:09 no amateurhour i dont want to be 'balanced' 09:09 altar gets deleted randoml 09:09 MML gave me a silver katana earlier so really I won't complain 09:09 and 95% of possible gifts give you terminal assitis 09:09 oooh 09:09 nice VaderFLAG 09:09 that's a nice gift 09:09 Fantastic first sac gift 09:09 do gifted weapons/armour ever have oprops? 09:10 Mine never have, but supposedly 09:10 amateurhour: it's a difficult problem because any nerf will be widely unpopular among players who all expect to be guaranteed the thing they want eventually 09:10 amateurhour, 1 in 8 chance 09:10 Some day I'll get a dope OfLightning weapon gift 09:10 Some day! 09:10 brb 09:10 in my hypothetical variant of awesome here's what I'd do 09:10 dishes! 09:10 \o/ 09:11 I'd move first sac gifts into an optional side branch 09:11 YANI: in fiqhack, chaotic gods may grant potions of wonder as a sacrifice gift 09:11 and roles without one would get a new artifact added 09:11 and you can get max 1 artifact per altar 09:12 thassit 09:13 lol, invisible zombies rise as invisible zombies again 09:13 sneaky 09:13 Ok I'm bad at reading the code, anyone know what the orcish long sword damage is? 09:14 doesn't evilhack have object lookup now 09:14 try that 09:14 oh does it? 09:14 How does that work 09:14 /norcishlongsword 09:15 I think you just examine it in invent by pressing i then its letter 09:15 Oh that's great 09:15 Awesome 09:15 assuming it works the same as other variants 09:15 though I haven't looked at the commit to see if K2 added all the extra dmgval cases 09:15 It has it for this 09:15 gonna use the shit out of this 09:16 like how there's uhhh a broadsword that has +1d4 and that's hardcoded so object lookup also has to hardcode it 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 858 points, T:966, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 09:24 damn free action doesn't protect against wands of sleep 09:24 need to eat more elves 09:28 "The design features ukuleles on a black background" first Hawaiian shirt \o/ 09:28 \o/ 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class ;), on T:1015 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2358 points, T:1371, killed by a watch captain 09:36 Law enforcement won't just stand by as you commit genocide I guess 09:37 :D 09:37 no, I accidentally zapped a watchman 09:37 from class ;) 09:37 ;) 09:41 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an Uruk-hai shield entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10558 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 217 points, T:888, killed by an invisible large mimic 10:08 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 10:10 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4030 points, T:2040, killed by a watchman 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an Olog-hai, on T:12507 10:29 ugh 10:29 polytraps >:((( 10:33 :/ 10:33 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38 I just came so close to dying... prayer doesn't pop you back out of a gelcube? 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:13000 10:43 in vanilla being engulfed is never that serious I guess 10:47 how do I get into this room with the chests? 10:47 in the sewet 10:47 sewer* 10:49 teleport in 10:49 oh, so you need teleport control? 10:49 well there are teleport traps somewhere on that floor 10:49 but it's a roll as to whether you'll actually get in there 10:50 and because sewage counts as a valid teleport square the odds are really bad 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 33921 points, T:14540, killed by a scorpion 10:50 :/ 10:50 oh well moot point now lol 10:50 I suggested changing that to make it less annoying but K2 said 'suck it up buttercup' (they didn't really say that) 10:50 !lastgame qt 10:50 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1619894426.evil.html 10:50 rip 10:51 "You hear the howling of the CwnAnnwn... You die..." 10:51 i thought you were only supposed to get that "hear the howling" message if you didn't die? 10:52 jeez I wish I had known that it was impossible to get into that room, I could have cleared out a lot sooner and I wouldn't have died :( 10:52 well, not died in the exact same way at least 10:54 it's not impossible per se 10:55 but yeah I get you 11:02 that level was designed that way on purpose, like the rogue quest end level 11:02 takes some thinking and a bit o' luck 11:06 it takes a lot of tedious wading through sewage until you randomly hit the right square on a teleport trap. it sucks 11:06 that's not good, fun gameplay 11:07 it wouldn't be so bad if sewage wasn't a valid teleport square 11:07 or course with teleport control 11:08 or there's a secret 'vault teleporter' somewhere on the floor 11:08 i was going to suggest the same thing amateurhour 11:08 one of the teleport traps is chosen at random to deposit you in the secret room 11:09 but if the intent is to make you come back later once you have teleport control I guess that makes sense too... 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 6327 points, T:4382, killed by a watchman 11:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:20 like lol rekt the luckstone is in the room of annoyance 11:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:27 feel free to make a PR with proposed changes 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 396 points, T:888, killed by a hobbit 11:42 hula dancers on a black background... very cool shirt 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 249 points, T:1274, killed by a hobbit 11:48 that damn hobbit just won't let up 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 137 points, T:253, killed by a small mimic 11:50 the hobbit was a mimic 11:50 did he have a striped shirt and whiteface and wear a beret? 11:55 hawaiian shirts with black backgrounds feel weird to me 11:55 really? i have a couple of those (or had) 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3661 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5121 points, T:3798, quit 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 307 points, T:1092, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:48 everytime you die qt, i feel like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaQa4ttIyNo 12:52 lol 12:52 happily I can always try again :) 12:53 be back later 12:53 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 12:57 Hi K2, any idea yet why I have "You have gravely abused your alignment"? 12:59 because you did things that abused your alignment. a lot 13:00 as in 50+ points worth 13:00 :-) 13:00 but what would abuse the alignment of an infidel 13:02 not sacrificing in atimely manner for one 13:02 not helping that nice gnome lady cross the street 13:02 you mentioned that is 1 alignment point in 6000 turns or something? 13:03 i havent tested how big a hit not saccing really does for infidels yet. i will today, promise 13:03 pinky promise thumb swear 13:03 I thank you for your support! 13:05 no, thank you 13:05 (no really, thank you) 13:05 [seriously, thank you] 13:05 lol 13:05 ^ me and my boss back n forth 13:08 Ah the nymph shopkeeper is nice to me 13:08 Shame I'm going to kill her 13:08 :) 13:08 I wonder if nymph shopkeepers teleport 13:09 i really should re-review what kind of alignment adjustments infidels get 13:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:26689 13:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:26895 13:50 a shame that's silver 13:51 ooh giant infidel 13:51 do you get giant wings? 13:52 ooh snap you'll be able to wear armor after being crowned 13:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1138 points, T:2783, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food 13:56 K2 yes, looking forward to that! 13:58 DISHES 13:58 \o/ 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4358 points, T:1607, killed by a water moccasin 14:01 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 24391 points, T:11474, killed by a giant leech 14:07 whyyyyy do I ever do the sewers 14:08 GOOD question 14:09 Really my fault for not knowing that I would be teleported to rat king adjacency rather than the luckstone 14:12 fair amount of decent loot in the sewers. plus cool points for killing the rat king 14:18 lol this pickpocket just stole the saddle on the steed I was riding. that's some skill 14:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1912 points, T:3343, killed by a bolt of cold 14:30 heh 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "greased fixed erodeproof +2 bone gauntlets of power", on T:701 14:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 320 points, T:2004, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 2798 points, T:2737, killed by a bolt of fire 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1507 points, T:1541, killed by a ball of cold 14:48 anyone try out barding yet? 14:48 for their steed 14:49 My steeds won't fight so they are under-leveled and keep dying 14:49 Also I have not found any barding 14:50 wont fight? not ever? 14:54 gdammit 14:54 very rarely 14:54 when unridden 14:55 something in dogmove.c 14:55 i bet 15:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3743 points, T:3528, killed by a baby owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 15:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 94 points, T:261, killed by trying to drink molten lava 15:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 2749 points, T:3911, killed by a watch captain 15:17 barding is as likely to find as a saddle isn't it 15:18 so you're more likely to find one via an already barded monster i suppose 15:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 455 points, T:1050, killed by a giant rat 15:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 897 points, T:1432, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 15:30 flind 15:30 lol, how many gnoll monsters have been added?? 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4356 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed sflicht's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1858 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 222 points, T:501, killed by a fox, while frozen by a potion 15:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 80 points, T:81, killed by a glass dart 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 6327 points, T:5112, poisoned by a little dart 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 103 points, T:485, killed by a boulder 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 259 points, T:705, killed by a water demon 15:51 mobileuser - 4 15:52 gnoll.gnoll hunter/gnoll cleric/flind 15:52 s/.// 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) murdered Marcus, her faithful kitten, on T:3488 16:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 4755 points, T:4734, zapped herself with a wand 16:06 are flind gnolls freaking blind 16:11 Also what's a flind 16:14 https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Flind 16:16 ah thx, it felt like more ;-) 16:16 :P 16:24 recently learned leocrottas have some relation to gnolls 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:29467 16:26 M I R A C L E 16:28 I think Moloch secretly likes it that I have gravely abused my alignment 16:29 woah. +5 as well? 16:39 hah no, +0 16:39 but cursed! 16:40 Umbire are leocrottas intelligent? 16:40 In D&D/related yeah 16:40 they use their voice mimicry to lure away prey, usu. humans 16:41 they're right bastards 16:41 even worse than in NH 16:41 sounds like an interesting idea to make them intelligent in evilhack 16:42 hah, even served as gnoll mounts 16:42 Yep! 16:43 they work disturbingly well together 16:43 Umbire: heh, very nice :) 16:43 I was looking them up for fanart purposes 16:43 ;) 16:44 Don't you wink at me like that 16:44 * Umbire pulls out a hammer 16:45 say no more, say no more! 16:45 * Arahael wouldnt worry about what people say, more the worry what that hammer will do! 16:46 I keep planning to draw NetHack fanart but never get around to it 16:46 always wondered what those miserable fucks looked like 16:47 Umbire: the entry for gnolls haunt me. "we live. we die. nobody cares. that is why we laugh" 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3265 17:43 hmm. can i genocide humans as an illithid? 17:45 I don't think you can, there are special rules 17:45 you are a human Arahael 17:45 vanilla rules 17:45 you, the player 17:45 that 17:46 curious. 17:48 curious... these magical daggers are extrinsic ESP. 17:48 Yeah, @ will always genocide you I think 17:49 if you enter a glyph 17:49 i was thinking of entering "humans". 17:49 genocide the human priest in minetown. 17:50 that doesn't work 17:50 i've an uncursed scroll, but interesting that doesnt work. 17:50 neither does "dwarf" for a dwarf priest 17:50 K2 is ahead of you ;-) 17:51 has anyone tried polying on astral, wearing unchanging 17:51 blessed geno @ 17:51 risky but kind of a a stupid ascension trick if it works 17:51 More data points now that I have a stethoscope K2 - My lvl 4 full HP dog won't attack level 1 7hp gnomes 17:52 amateurhour I think K2 made it so that would have hardly any effect 17:53 pets are on strike until they get bobble hats 17:54 gdammit 17:55 Power to the four legged people! .7 being released around May Day was no accident! 17:55 always release new version well ahead of junethack 17:55 always never do that 17:55 i want to actually play, not chase down a bunch of bugs 17:56 junethack is about EXPOSING the bugs 17:56 activate the horde of beta testers^W^W players 17:56 well of course :) 17:57 but lets lessen the blow a bit 17:57 does anyone remember this pet not attacking issue with 0.6? 17:57 this is likely to be something that qt has a spidey sense about 17:57 perhaps 17:57 gut instinct knowing exactly what the problem could be 17:58 i ask because the last time i made an edit to pet attacking behavior was april 2020 17:59 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/d1edd4df40d854a9834ef098fbfd39210bcef575#diff-f21c7732617d35298c0cb4bf37447fc898d296d8dd1ec1f74c2efd6a2db9428f 17:59 gonna fire up 0.6.0 and see 18:00 i remmeber seeing this behavior while testing 0.7 stuff 18:00 dunno why it didnt become a priority thing 18:00 prob cuz i was focusing on the things i was testing 18:00 that's not true 18:00 the last time wasn't april 2020 18:00 ah right 18:01 your monster lookup patch touches both dog and dogmove 18:01 in particular acceptable_pet_target 18:02 I'm not sure what you intended to change 18:02 resists_sick() went from on to ptr 18:02 *mon 18:02 so resists_sick(mtmp) changed to mtmp->data 18:02 thats it 18:03 uuuuuuugh 18:03 we'll find it 18:03 but pets not attacking, thats a big deal 18:04 qt made some PR's that changed item pickup behavior 18:05 might be worth taking a look at the git log for dog and dogmove 18:05 hmm 18:05 i am 18:05 dogmove.c is where its at 18:05 acceptable_pet_target() 18:06 i added some behavior from xnethack... i wonder if i screwed something up 18:06 first i wanna see if its like this in 0.6 also 18:06 i bet it is 18:07 hmm it doesnt seem to be 18:08 wait a sec... 18:08 not attacking weaker monsters.... 18:08 hah 18:09 ? 18:09 vaderflag has a lvl 4 dog not attacking a lvl 1 rock gnome 18:10 i bet this is the xnh stuff i imported 18:10 yeah, a level 4 dog at full hp 18:10 hey a level 4 dog will attack a level 1 gnome in xnh don't look at me 18:11 idk what this msummoned thing is 18:11 i may have messed something up 18:11 2 months ago there was a change for sphere timeouts or something whack 18:11 something idk anything about 18:12 if I was a gambling man I'd point at this commit https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e3534719cdca4d879bfecfa71c765ea5fc16139f 18:13 lol oh shit 18:16 hmmm yeah there's all sorts of messed up behavior going on 18:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:18 idk what msummoned is meant to mean, just seems weird to have added them to a lot of the cases in there 18:19 msummond is just that, its a summonded monster 18:20 summoned 18:20 spelling something something 18:20 you have to look at a past commit 18:20 summonded monster being flaming/freezing sphere spell 18:20 summoned 18:20 OMG 18:21 simoned 18:21 garfunkled 18:22 I first heard about them from my friend who said he really liked Paul Simon and Garfunkel 18:22 they went on at length about how Paul did xyz and Garfunkel did abc 18:22 and I was confused for the longest time what the third one did 18:23 turns out there was no extra Simon 18:23 heh 18:23 simon and garfunkel is awesome 18:23 Simon & Simon and Garfunkel 18:23 'the boxer' is prob my favorite tune by them 18:24 anyways, it's a bit of boolean spaghetti there but did you mean to add the extra msummoned lines? 18:25 i completely screwed that up 18:25 i am fixing it now 18:25 i got mtmp and mtmp2 confused 18:25 but there's a better way to do this anyways 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 143389 points, T:31099, suffocated by a water elemental 18:26 You hear a gurgling noise. 18:27 I was gonna say "mtmp2 is a bad sign" but it appears 242 times in xnethack (most/all from vanilla) 18:30 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 18:33 Well that was the most through and methodical way evilhack has ever killed me -- no showboating, just step after cruel step grinding me into dust 18:35 or into water 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4024 points, T:5304, killed by a wolf 18:37 Well specifically yeah :-) That happened after I was clowned off a level by a petrifying eye that perforce made me blind and consumed my only carried lizard, then a giant drove me into a hole to the next unexplored level -- cut off by the eye above with no way to locate it 18:37 Trapped unprepared too low 18:37 krm26: thats me all the time! :D but in my case, when i'm not making silly mistakes, i have to keep remembering to keep the upstairs accessible. 18:38 heya krm26 18:38 Hi! I just experienced my best evilhack death sequence 18:38 So, thank you for that 18:39 VaderFLAG stole the first combo ascension out from under me so it was for the best 18:44 my pleasure lol 18:44 so i believe i've fixed the pet not attacking things bit 18:44 i need to see how summoned monsters (flaming/freezing spheres) behave 18:45 Cool 18:45 before i forget - amateurhour, thank you for all of the slash'em PR's 18:45 There should be a pet skill, so at higher levels you could toggle their attacks, etc. (exercise skill by feeding maybe) 18:46 there's more coming I just got stuck on a little trickier one 18:46 cool 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 573 points, T:731, killed by a giant mosquito 18:47 like the case where a lightning attack destroyed an item but it needs to read the next item in the chain 18:48 vanilla rewrote that whole section (for good reason) 18:48 https://github.com/k21971/SlashEM/blob/master/src/zap.c#L4618 18:49 Hmph. Onlly 5% poison resistant. 18:50 krm26 i did add this a year ago - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e082a28d6b8ffe057acd90b44244d2ddf5e428b5 18:50 ooh 1.5 yrs 18:51 I admit I'm a non-rider generally, I find it to be too much of a hassle 18:51 Can't keep my mounts alive 18:52 are you aware of barding? 18:52 its new for 0.7 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 408 points, T:672, killed by a giant bat 18:53 I am, and I'll give it a try with Pegasus if I ever get that far 18:54 I want to be able to slosh a healing potion on my mount (or pet) 18:54 can you smash healing pots on their lil head? 18:56 Can't you throw it downward? 18:56 Probably not reliable but 18:57 you can 18:58 -!- cccrow has joined #evilhack 19:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6982 points, T:3304, killed by a white unicorn 19:04 Unicorns are so deadly when you're invisible. 19:05 Fun game, that one, though. But always overpowered. 19:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1084 points, T:2722, killed by a gold golem 19:45 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:03 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:20 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 21:22 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 21:32 yeah i fixed the pet not attacking silliness 21:32 commit incoming 21:37 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3RRu 21:37 [EvilHack] k21971 6461e9a - Fix: pets not attacking monsters under most circumstances. 21:37 Nifty 21:46 ugh, I forgot how I got the syntax for curl shit last time 21:46 Someone remind me? drawing a blank looking at the --help thin 21:46 thing* 21:49 What are you trying to curl? 21:50 Just trying to remember the syntax in general 21:50 curl options targets 21:50 curl -F'file=@yourfile.png' https://0x0.st isn't exactly working and I forgot how I dealt with it before 21:50 removing the '' isn't doing much 21:51 nvm, think I got it now 21:51 https://0x0.st/-axT.png 21:51 curl -F https://woof.com/stuff 21:51 right, just need to practice that 21:51 was missing an @ 21:55 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/J3REx 21:55 [EvilHack] k21971 e5d7a96 - Fix: peacefuls would never take any items given via #loot. 22:06 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/J3Rzw 22:06 [EvilHack] k21971 6252ca4 - Fix: ghosts attempting to scare already paralyzed hero. 22:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:08 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 22:10 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 22:13 Umbire: Everything is a string, and the shell doesn't pass the ' or " bits. What those influence is how things are escaped, for example, 'this word' will pass that as a single string, including the space, rather than splitting it into two strings. 22:13 Umbire: Unless it's windows, in which case, who knows(!) Windows does not have anything consistent there. 22:13 krm26 just patched evilhack on servers. not critical or anything but you may wanna save/reload, esp if you have a pet 22:13 I already figured it out 22:14 Umbire: Just helping with some things I found insightful. :) There's no real difference between ' and ", as an example - but I prefer ' as the " will have more 'interpolation' - so the string might change in ways you don't expect. 22:14 (Unless it's windows...) 22:15 Windows is the weird OS. :( 22:15 Thx K2! 22:16 At least Windows lets you live in WSL now 22:17 Indeed. 22:17 Btw, the reason why there's no standard in windows, is because the whole comand line is passed, verbatim, to the application, and it's the application that's responsible for parsing it. 22:18 (So, in the case of C's main's argv/argc, the C libraries are doing that parsing, and then calling main) 22:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 170 points, T:642, killed by a mountain dwarf 22:22 Hmm. New game... +4 ring of adornment. That's... Useless, isn't it? 22:23 Charisma is nice for shopping 22:24 charisma also directly affects how conflict works 22:24 Oh? 22:24 Umbire: I'm an illithid, so shopping will suck anyway. 22:25 you didnt know did you 22:25 ... No, I did not. :) 22:25 look on the wiki under the evilhack entry search for charisma 22:27 Nice - so very useful for conflict. 22:39 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:44 Ugh, so insulting to find restricted artifact weapons lying on the ground 22:45 F8ck you game 22:46 * Arahael concurs. :) 22:46 Basically I found a lower chance of wishing for Dragonbane 22:46 Except it is Vorpal Blade, so I also have to pick it up and stash it somewhere safe 22:47 If you are wielding a restricted artifact weapon and praying/offering maybe a potential reward should be unrestricting you 22:47 That would make it not an ABSOLUTE screw 22:47 oof the alignment hit for an infidel if they dont make proper sacrifices in a timely manner is brutal 22:48 before it was kind of a big deal, you dont want your alignment to be in the negative 22:48 now with alignment abuse being a thing before starting your quest, its huge 22:49 YUGE 22:49 now imagine it with a fourklike system where any negative alignment change first zeroes all your positive alignment, then applies the negative. 22:49 i need to teak this, otherwise infidels will almost certainly have their quest leader demand the quest artifact at the end of the quest 22:49 eh no 22:49 *tweak 22:52 If only I could polymorph this Vorpal Blade into a Frost Brand 22:52 K2: Alternatively, they could have a chance to fix that before they complete the quest? 22:52 no, it doesnt work that way 22:52 krm26: In vanilla, I once found vorpal really useful on the astral plane when I was against an exceptionlly tough NPC that had insanely good armour. 22:53 krm26: I couldn't hit it in any way, but I was still able to behead. 22:53 alignment abuse is simply a tally of the number of negative alignment points you've accumilated 22:53 you can repair your alignment record 22:55 Ah, but you can't repair the abuse. 22:56 you cant wash away past sins 22:56 Nice. 22:56 you cheat on your wife. she catches you, but you somehow salvage the relationship and stay married. but you still cheated <--- alignment abuse 22:57 salvage = alignment record repaired 22:57 Aka what I explain as "God forgives, but actions still have consequences". 22:57 there ya go 22:58 Makes sense. :) Ok, I should get back to work. Laters! 22:58 cya 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:6987 23:03 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:30 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3RMh 23:30 [EvilHack] k21971 70da048 - Fix: alignment hit infidels take when not sacrificing in a timely manner. 23:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:38 !tell mobileuser https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/70da048a482342cc61c4f2e52268b5ac97e39008 23:38 I'm on it, K2. 23:39 gnite all