00:00 Woah, new delphi looks good. 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5429 points, T:2866, withered away 00:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2320 points, T:1422, killed by a jaguar 00:13 New soko is good. :) 02:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:39 K2: "You have gravely abused your alignment." Moloch is mad that I'm not sacrificing =D 02:39 nice new feature 02:41 Mmmm "You can safely pray" that surprises me... 02:46 Alignment record not negative yet 02:48 Abuses are recorded for other purposes as well ;o 03:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:05 yeah the alternative quest ending 03:05 normally there is not much an infidel can do to abuse alignment, but not saccing must be the main one 03:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11239 03:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22 luckstone GET, ascension WHEN? 03:28 lol, pretty unlikely at the moment. 03:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:48 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: rebooting vps] 04:50 -!- aoei has joined #evilhack 05:09 -!- hothraxx1 has joined #evilhack 05:11 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:18 spheres are a lot more annoying now 06:19 flaming spheres even burn your armor 06:28 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 06:31 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:47 They couldn't before? 06:47 correct 06:48 mobileuser, remember that if your quest leader asks for the quest artifact and you dont feel you're ready to fight them, you can hand it over and then go back at some later point and kill them for it. or steal it. or some other 200 iq strat 06:48 its doable 06:48 Ooh, nice. Some wands auto-identify when you engrave. 06:48 yeah \o/ 06:49 there's a bug with poly wand need to address 06:49 or run away :-) 06:49 i think qt submitted a PR against xnethack for it 06:49 Yeah? I've started with poly in this game. 06:49 mobileuser that too :) 06:49 Arahael in regards to auto id 06:50 I'm soooo tired tonight. I'm wondering if I should play this game with a glass of whiskey, a glass of vodka, or a glass of water. 06:50 yes 06:50 That settles it, then. 06:50 I feel strangely sad that the statues on my Oracle level are not centaurs :-) 06:51 Likewise, that really stood out for me. 06:51 Wait until you see the new soko! 06:52 I wonder if there will be a spike in new evilhack players this weekend 06:53 mobileuser if you're reached 'gravely' on the alignment abuse meter, your quest leader is almost guaranteed to ask for the artifact 06:53 just fyi 06:53 Are the quest nemesises much harder? 06:54 no not really 06:54 the infidel quest nemesis is *tough* 06:54 but its the quest leader you gotta worry about in regards to align abuse 06:54 brb 06:54 * Arahael takes a sip of whiskey. 06:55 If an infidel doesn't have an early altar then quest leader trouble is guaranteed then 06:55 sigh 06:55 I still think it doesn't make sense for the infidel quest leader 06:58 same 06:59 Hmm? Ghosts are scared when you strike sparks? 07:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1068 points, T:529, killed by a housecat 07:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6 points, T:95, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 07:02 i could maybe adjust the align penalty for infidels that dont sac early on 07:02 but it does make sense, infidels shouldnt get a free pass from that 07:03 K2: Maybe don't, but make it so you don't get a penalty if you just kill them instead, or something? 07:03 Arahael i dont think you understand the alignment abuse thing 07:04 one sec 07:04 K2: I probably don't, but to me, an infidel basically just flips the bird at all those rules, surely? 07:04 it doesnt matter whether you're 'evil' or not, if you dont do the things your deity expects, you abuse your alignment 07:05 in the case of infidel, moloch expects regular sacrificies 07:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 708 points, T:1756, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:06 one thing i did do, infidels dont get nearly as bad an align hit for killing their pets 07:06 dunno if you all noticed that 07:06 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 670 points, T:453, killed by a bolt of fire 07:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 118 points, T:1060, killed by a little dart 07:09 Looks like I'm doing "better" than post163. 07:09 Hecubus! You didn't sac to Moloch when he wanted you to! EVIL! :b 07:09 lol 07:12 it looks like the alignment hit for not sacrificing to moloch is one point for every 6000 turns you dont do it 07:13 That's not huge. 07:13 how are you supposed to maintain that in gehennom? 07:13 oh I guess you can probably sac to *moloch* in gehennom 07:13 yup 07:14 also bear in mind, infidel role was meant to be more difficult than the other vanilla roles. that was part of Tomsod's intent 07:15 but they're obviously not impossible to overcome (looks at all the infidel asc already) 07:18 yeah there's nothing to really change here for alignment hit with infidel not saccing in a timely manner 07:18 its already at just one point 07:19 Does alignment really matter much at that point? 07:20 Ooh. Giant Priestess. 07:20 after the quest? not so much 07:20 * Arahael wonders if Giant Priestesses wear robes. 07:20 alignment *abuse* that is 07:20 your overall alignment still matters of course 07:21 but thats easy to fix 07:21 Right. 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 770 points, T:1708, killed by a pseudodragon 07:22 Apart from re-ordering the illithid's spells, I'm very much liking 0.7 07:22 'force bolt' is now position 'a', when that used to be 'psionic wave'. 07:22 K2 I wonder how I got "You have gravely abused your alignment." then 07:23 if you've racked up 50 or more points against your alignment 07:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:23 i should run some tests against infidel not saccing just to be certain 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 208 points, T:454, killed by a brown mold 07:26 !tell mobileuser i should run some tests against infidel not saccing just to be certain <--- you disconnected as i was typing doh 07:26 mobileuser shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 07:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:27 . 07:27 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2021-04-30 07:26 EDT: i should run some tests against infidel not saccing just to be certain <--- you disconnected as i was typing doh 07:27 yeah computer froze 07:27 windows... 07:30 I had to eat a number of cats and dogs to not starve, trying to find out if that comes with an alignment penalty 07:32 Doesn't seem to... 07:35 I think that's an infidel specialty. 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had a platinum splint mail entrusted to her by Mars, on T:66619 07:45 Arahael, I don't think it's different for Infidel. Eating a cat or a dog still gives the "bad idea" message 07:46 But it only causes aggravation 07:46 mobileuser: That's only... Yep. 07:46 which doesn't matter to a giant anyway 07:47 I've finished my glass of whiskey. 07:49 :-) 07:57 -!- jonadab has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2999 07:59 damn windows 07:59 poor mobileuser heh 07:59 * K2 shakes his fists at windows 07:59 EVIL 07:59 HECUBUS 08:00 ^ that's what i'm going to name my pet homunculus as an infidel 08:00 is that some kind of foocubus 08:01 It's from "Simon and Hecubus" 08:04 kids in the hall 08:05 Is that the penultimate evil pit sketch? 08:07 arahael: the + key can be used to put spells in whichever order you'd like 08:09 It took me forever to figure out the + f + z combo and finally as a result I enjoyed playing casters 08:09 rebatela: Yeah, but then I have to do that for all games moving forward, so I'd best get used to this order :) 08:11 VaderFLAG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rADdKqPNdaM 08:11 yeah i usually give certain spells the same letter, similar to what i do with items. Although with spells, you can only use as many letters as spells you've learned 08:13 Yeah that's the one 08:18 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4501 points, T:4916, killed by a baby owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 08:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5527 08:18 hecubus? oh hecubus... 08:18 ... yes master? 08:18 lol 08:24 dammit orctown and now that darn rat king 08:24 i did get 2 magic lamps in orctown though ! 08:24 is hecubus a heckler 08:24 if it's an i, then probably 08:24 rebatela: I learned not to bother the rat king. 08:27 there's good loot on that level usually, but he can be tough compared to the other mines ends 08:28 you just gotta do it slow and kill all the other crap in the swamp first (that's what I do at least) 08:28 Sure, I just avoid the rat king. :) 08:28 Yep, and pick up the stuff while you're at it, just don't bother killing the king. :) 08:28 if you dig down and aren't on the stairs it can get bad quick 08:28 oh i see lol 08:28 i don't have a way to open crystal chest yet anyway. gotta go back for luckstone so i usually just skip it for a while 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10298 08:41 kids in the hall. wow i forgot all about that show. used to watch that in the dorms constantly 08:43 i'm crushing your head 08:45 With soko, do I have to fill ALL the pits? 08:45 Or can I get away with only clearing a path? 08:46 just a path 08:46 K2 you probs want to take a look at the soko clear condition for that soko floor 08:46 I quite like having more soko puzzles. 08:46 the one that lets you pick up boulders without penalty etc 08:47 ? 08:48 you know how when a soko puzzle is 'complete' you can then pick up boulders without a luck penalty 08:48 or break them, etc 08:48 right 08:48 well IIRC that condition is 'are all the holes filled' 08:48 could be remembering wrong 08:48 whats the problem exactly? 08:48 well some of the new soko puzzles you solve the puzzle by not filling in every hole 08:48 ooh 08:49 right 08:49 in fact there's not enough boulders to fill the holes 08:49 if you run out of boulders, isnt the point then moot? 08:50 ? 08:50 but what if you have cleared the path and want to have those boulders as a giant 08:50 there's extra boulders than needed to solve the puzzle 08:50 yeah^ 08:51 ok i get it 08:51 could you still fill in all the holes if you wanted to? 08:51 Or simply can't be bothered to fill them all in. :) 08:51 Eg, on this level I'm on now, I could fill them all in if I wanted to, and still have two boulders left over. 08:52 But there isn't much point in filling them all in, I can just fill them in until I can get around on the one side, I think. 08:52 ok 08:52 no K2 there's not enough boulders 08:52 hmm 08:53 number of bolders to fill every hole > number of boulders there are > number of boulders needed to get to stairs 08:53 amateurhour: Which one are you on? 08:53 Oh, indeed. I think I must've miscounted. 08:53 I'm not presently playing Arahael, I'm referring to this: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_1n which I think you're on 08:54 I haven't checked any spoilers that are specific to 0.7 08:55 you be able to just mark that soko floor as complete if you go up the stairs? would break soko1 tho 08:56 > They say that you should never try to leave the dungeon with a bag of gems. 08:56 Is that a reference to deathonastick? ;) 08:56 soko1 could just be special-cased. 09:00 It's interesting how there's lava in them. 09:02 Ok, solved it with one boulder to spare. 09:02 Still reckons it's unsolved, though. 09:02 Yeah, definitely says it's unsolved. :( 09:02 I reckon that's a bug. 09:03 is this a problem in un? 09:04 I'm not aware of that variant. (I known it's in the menu, but I've only touched evil, vanilla, and... *shudder*... slex. 09:05 It's still unsolved even as I go up the stairs. 09:05 qt: unnethack has no sokoban luck penalties ever 09:05 but does it mark the levels as "solved" or "unsolved" still? 09:06 or no, because there's no point? 09:06 This one doesn't look to be possible. 09:06 iirc it doesn't mark them as solved, but cheating in any sense breaks 'sokocheatless' and doesn't give luck bonus when you solve it 09:06 bhaak would know for sure though 09:06 I expect it won't give me the "achievement" either. 09:07 I like this achievement, too - it's the only thing I usually achieve! 09:08 * Arahael checks the wiki for that solo level 1n. :) 09:08 with unnethack 6, I added the vanilla code for tracking solved or unsolved. 09:09 it will tell you in the dumplog if you've solved Sokoban or not. I think ... 09:09 bhaak: Are all the levels solveable without any cheats or tricks? 09:09 so for the levels where you can never fill all the holes, are they always marked unsolved? 09:09 For me, that level is still unsolved. 09:09 hmm, or it doesn't and it's only in the achieveX? 09:10 hmm 09:10 damn you work, i have nethack things to do! 09:10 K2: Haha. :) Still, nethack can wait. 09:10 qt: that doesn't matter. I didn't add the code that lifts the Sokoban restrictions when you solved the level. the restrictions are lifted if you solved the last Sokoban level 09:11 Ah, that works well enough. 09:11 why can't the solved/unsolded thing use "all the holes are filled" as a basic check but override it if you get to the next level 09:11 oh i guess that's pretty much like what bhaak just said lol 09:11 similar concept at least 09:11 Close enough. 09:12 there's the possibility to cheat in vanilla as giant with a boulder in your inventory 09:14 You can play giants in vanilla? 09:14 you can polyself into a giant 09:14 Or do you mean pol - yep. 09:16 IIRC you get the +1 Luck bonus if you solve the last Sokoban level with the Sokoban conduct intact, regardless if you've solved the previous levels 09:16 bhaak: How do you feel about K2 grabbing all these? :) I just want to knwo if the current one I'm on is solvable without cheats. It doesn't look solvable. 09:17 I think I didn't think too hard if you can skip the levels. with some of the non vanilla levels, you can probably shortcircuit a bit by polyself into a small creature to walk by iron bars. or dissolving the bars/ 09:17 -!- hothraxx1 is now known as hothraxxa 09:17 all of them are solvable Arahael 09:18 Hmm, then did the rules change? I don't think I can move boulders diagonally or anything. 09:18 there are spoilers for all of the sokoban levels i added on the wiki 09:18 yeah, they should be all solvable. never heard any complaint about any of them not being solvable 09:18 I think I just saw a possible approach! 09:19 K2: I'd rather do it without spoilers, just wanted the confirmation. :) 09:19 :) 09:19 Arahael: I figured out the one you're on yesterday 09:20 well, I died when I was like 80% of the way through I think 09:20 but I think it's possible for sure 09:20 I did all the soko floors I was doing in slex without spoilers, but there were some floors I had to reach for spoilers for 09:20 nasty variants of 2a 09:20 qt: K2 has dubbed you "digital ronin" 09:20 Hmm. It's a hard one. 09:20 how do u feel about this title 09:20 qt: Ah, yeah, I've just realised that there are *no* spare boulders for this one. 09:20 as a ronin he may slice your throat as an answer 09:21 D: 09:21 And I've possibly messed it up already. 09:21 that sounds painful 09:22 not interested in talking to westerners 09:22 perrys black ships worst day of my life 09:22 that's fair, we are terrible 09:22 lol qt 09:22 qt: I'm technically eastern. 09:22 * Arahael doesn't mention that he's eastern australian... 09:23 Arahael: aussies count as westerners and you know it 09:23 aoei: Drink more wine! 09:23 maybe later :b 09:23 im in class 09:23 Heh. :) 09:23 i guess i also shouldn't be on irc in class 09:23 XD 09:23 focus 09:23 no u :c 09:24 Oh, right... Evilsoko. 09:24 https://0x0.st/-aTu.png 09:25 that's one I have to read spoilers for 09:25 is that one possible to solve? 09:26 the turnaround point in the corner that was taken away is the linchpin of the whole normal solution :( 09:26 i guess it does say "a solution cannot exist" in the screenshot 09:26 it can be solved yeah 09:26 I think I can do that one with a modification of my usual strategy in vanilla. 09:27 you have to make a diagonal move that seems like it wouldn't work 09:27 Indeed. 09:27 the bit where there's: 09:27 I've messed up my current level. 09:27 0. 09:27 .^ 09:27 oh yeah 09:27 I see 09:27 you can move diagonally there 09:28 I use Amy's writeup of her solution to solve it 09:29 https://0x0.st/-aTS.txt 09:30 because it's too easy to mess it up 09:30 Confirmed, I've definitely messed up this level. I'll have to teleport these two boulders later. 09:31 thats stock vanilla soko? 09:31 2a? 09:31 it has extra pits K2 09:31 and boulders in whack places 09:31 oh i see 09:31 look at the middle bit 09:31 a circle of boulders there 09:31 i didnt add that did i? 09:32 i dont think i did 09:32 no, this is a sokoban level that jonadab made but decided was too evil for fourk 09:32 that Amy added to slex 09:32 whew 09:32 ok 09:32 I went offtopic sry 09:32 i had a wtf moment there for a sec 09:32 Oh, darn. No wand of teleport. 09:32 I might have to cheat. :( 09:33 K2: Btw, these soko levels are awesome. :) You've done well copying bhaak's stuff! 09:33 thanks 09:33 i can't tell if that's catty or genuine lol 09:33 i've enjoyed those playing unnethack/grunthack 09:33 i assume genuine knowing Arahael 09:33 qt: It's a down-under compliment. 09:33 qt i took it as genuine 09:33 :P 09:34 :) 09:34 i didnt bring over every single new soko level from unnethack, just the ones i liked 09:34 more soko floors = more good 09:34 unnethack more. MOAR 09:34 yeah i agree 09:34 more soko flipping = flipping awful 09:34 i was excited to see some new soko levels! 09:34 it's fun to play them and try to figure them out without knowing them already 09:34 Yeah, I tried going back to vanilla a while. The flipped soko actually was painful. Easily done, but still hurt. 09:34 and no flipping/rotating 09:35 i have started playing a sokoban game on my phone too lol 09:35 you get to be a cat and you can wear costumes 09:35 pretty awesome 09:36 mobileuser: Oh, interesting technique, I don't push any of those boulders back. Forwards is the only way, imho! 09:36 i was a bit surprised at how much it changes sokoban to use normal rules instead of pits 09:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:86 09:40 Wow, this is a big soko. 09:43 brb 09:44 Arahael, that was keyboard error if you were watching 09:44 fortunately there are enough boulders on the level 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 649 points, T:1350, killed by a green mold 09:45 mobileuser: Ah, I see - I only saw that bit, and then went back to my game. 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of reflection, on T:13559 10:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1075 points, T:2033, killed by a rothe 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had a copper elven short sword entrusted to her by Mars, on T:68060 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed ring of p'hul", on T:14153 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 56021 points, T:14155, killed by Pelias 10:10 !lastgame 10:10 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1619723294.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1619790388.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1619780533.evil.html 10:11 Wow he did not come to play 10:12 risky 10:13 yeah should have waited. needed mr though 10:14 AC:-11, not /that/ bad, just unlucky, I reckon. 10:14 He's just *really* bad if he has a potion of speed. 10:14 i was grandmaster so did a lot of damage too 10:14 Yeah, but you have to have a chance to hit a few times. 10:27 Hmm. Gotta decide which soko level to pick. The amulet is what I usually go for, but I already have MR. So I'm tempted to go for the possibility of a magic marker - especially since I don't have a bag yet at all. 10:30 yeah a lot of times not having any bag, I will go for the tool 10:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3stx 10:31 [EvilHack] k21971 6936f85 - Fix: pet unable to "return" item to shop. 10:31 !who 10:31 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] :: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [evil] :: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 10:32 Yep, I think I'll go for the tool, too. 10:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9662 10:32 It's the BoH. 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2526 points, T:3929, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted baby owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:33 Which I actually need, anyway. 10:33 :D 10:45 Hmm. Now thinking about how to get reflection. 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 3051 points, T:2784, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 10:49 I think it needs to be SDSM. 10:54 Woo, found crystal plate mail! 10:54 * Arahael doesn't want SDSM anymore. 10:55 Oh, crap. :( Poisoned. 10:55 And I was doing soooo well! 10:56 This will become a *very* nice bones if it becomes a bones. 10:57 !rng play evilhack | update wiki 10:57 K2: update wiki 10:57 play evilhack it is \o/ 10:57 Oh, wow, it's a double-bones! 10:57 rebatela, I died, randomly, on your bones level! 10:57 You by fire, me by poison. 10:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 27687 points, T:10667, poisoned by a soldier ant 10:58 Good game, but very anticlimatic dying like that - feels out of my control. 11:05 * aosdict gets out the "Remove Poison Instadeath" picket signs 11:06 yeah i love that monks get pois resist at xl 3! 11:13 easybabyhack, remove monk poison res at xlvl 3 11:13 :^) 11:13 (do not do this) 11:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Orc Fem Una), 827 points, T:1549, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2843 points, T:4699, killed by a hezrou of Manannan Mac Lir, while praying 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 6088 points, T:4654, killed by a giant centipede 12:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3srw 12:07 [EvilHack] k21971 2f1726d - Fix: missing period (Infidel and casting). 12:08 maybe you should take a pregnancy test K2, just to be sure 12:09 because of your missing period, ha ha ha. get it 12:09 lol 12:09 awful... just awful 12:10 a lot of the jokes I come up with make me feel sick inside 12:10 and yet i tell them anyway, it's a compulsion 12:10 * K2 nods 12:22 took me a while to get it 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:10594 12:23 \o/ 12:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1958 points, T:2713, quit 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:11348 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 214 points, T:423, killed by Ms. Wonotobo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 156 points, T:286, killed by an arrow 12:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:46 ha. i got that bones level arahael 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 633 points, T:1364, killed by a rothe 13:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Inf Gia Fem Una), 1343 points, T:2893, killed by an imp 13:12 K2: I updated my xnh pet #loot PR a bit more; if I were you I might wait until it was totally wrapped up before merging it, just in case anything else is added or changed, but I wanted to give you a heads up anyway 13:13 one of the things is an impossible caused by giving your pet a currently [wielded|quivered|...] item, which is a bit annoying 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:582 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:737 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 591 points, T:1078, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted green mold 13:16 oof 13:16 thanks for the heads up qt 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1431 points, T:2111, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +5 Dragonbane", on T:545 13:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:30 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 13:31 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 13:32 damn nabru 13:33 wish source? 13:33 no owner? 13:33 K2: blessed magic lamp 13:33 that early? roughly 50/50 chance 13:33 yep 13:33 early in the mines 13:33 First wish is a coinflip 13:33 nice 13:33 grats 13:33 dont die 13:33 t. valk what wished for +2 DBane 13:34 aaaaaaaand... I found another magic lamp lying around 13:34 K2: does monster generation increase after you wish 13:34 but won't use it yet 13:34 qt no 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1731 points, T:1298, killed by a giant mosquito 13:35 here are the milestones - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/allmain.c#L250 13:35 hope this leaves bones 13:35 "won't use it yet" - famous last words 13:51 rip nabru. nice wish tho! 13:51 rip 13:51 did you get the +5 13:51 nope 13:51 so the chance of owner is less early on ? 13:53 hah i need to kill the 'rip' function here as well 13:53 rip the rip 13:55 rip my clothes off EvilBot 13:55 last change to do that :') 13:55 s/change/chance/ 13:56 git commit beholder.py -m "Remove bot ERP functionality" 13:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4695 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4298 points, T:5262, killed by an exploding wand 14:03 rip? 14:04 -!- rebatela has quit [*.net *.split] 14:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [*.net *.split] 14:04 -!- Arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 14:04 -!- infinigon has quit [*.net *.split] 14:06 -!- Arahael has joined #evilhack 14:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:07 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 14:07 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5927 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "Blessed +3 fixed dragonbane", on T:6809 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wolf, on T:6814 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (chameleons), on T:4824 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) murdered Backup, her faithful dog, on T:4958 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10216 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 22071 points, T:10507, killed by a Grey-elf, while sleeping 14:30 Oh man 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3616 points, T:3428, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 9436 points, T:5950, killed by an invisible dwarf lord 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:74073 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:74095 14:41 heh 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:528 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:74766 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2550 points, T:2351, poisoned by a gray fungus 15:01 rip 15:04 rip 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14261 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 636 points, T:1717, killed by a giant mosquito 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 592 points, T:1362, killed by a giant bat 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1744 points, T:2173, killed by an ogre 15:59 nabru: I found your dragonbane bones 15:59 :D have fun 16:01 The new m + move on boulder is great, makes it much easier to do boulder fort as giant 16:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1312 points, T:2088, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 16:04 oops I put on dragonbane and my pseudodragon bashed himself to death 16:04 he just went frothing mad :( 16:07 forgot about the bane untaming eh 16:09 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:16884 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:78307 16:13 yeah, bit weird it has that effect on *pseudo*dragons 16:16 well... its a type of dragon 16:16 its not a pseudonewt 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Con Ith Fem Cha), 29 points, T:42, killed by a jackal 16:16 so silly :P 16:17 its not a pseudonewt?? :') 16:18 a pseudonewt could be a dragon :-) 16:18 lol 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2003 points, T:3439, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 16:24 noo 16:25 nabru: your Dragonbane is gone :( that was in sokoban so no bones 16:29 rip 16:29 ah new HecuBot 16:29 oh slow HecuBot 16:29 :\ 16:30 rip 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1868 points, T:2932, killed by a dust vortex 16:46 kay two 16:47 i just got magicbane at xl2... 16:47 i assume that's not intended? maybe you need to re-add the 'u.ulevel > 2' condition from vanilla to dosacrifice 16:48 or change pray.c:2122 to "if ((!awaiting_guaranteed_gift() || u.ulevel <= 2)" 16:48 * amateurhour honestly had no idea you had to be level 3 16:49 yeah, there's a limit on receiving sacrifice gifts in vanilla 16:50 whack 16:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:2015 16:55 k2 ^ 16:55 they'll be back in a wee whiley 16:58 i wanted to actually write it out since "kay two" probably doesn't highlight the line for him :) 16:58 though maybe it should. I'm sure you could set that up in weechat, dunno what irc client he uses 17:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1788 points, T:3278, killed by a baby owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1289 points, T:2759, killed by a manes 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4867 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6949 17:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2236 points, T:2768, killed by a rothe 17:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bag called HOLDING containing 27 items on an altar, on T:18337 17:50 can giants lift giant corpses 17:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 268 points, T:902, killed by a coyote 17:50 is it worth the risk attacking a peaceful hill giant shaman... 17:50 all will be revealed tomorrow 17:51 ot is sleep o'clock 17:51 it* 17:51 yeah 17:52 "These questions—and many others—will be answered in the next episode of... SoapHack" 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9288 18:21 !setmintc 500 18:21 qt: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for qt set to 500 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2887 points, T:4512, killed by a chameleon imitating a titan, while praying 18:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2576 points, T:3214, killed by a Woodland-elf 18:28 hiya 18:28 thank you for highlighting me qt 18:29 i use mIRC on windows 10 and i'm not ashamed 18:29 you do you, girlfriend 18:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:30 werd 18:30 what does luck of the grasshopper mean 18:30 someone was asking in #hardfought earlier, I think NetSysFire 18:30 so we have a friend named Grasshopper. he's from down under but spends a lot of time in thailand also 18:30 he's in teamsplat 18:31 very good, methodical player 18:31 and he was *always* lucky 18:31 all - ways 18:31 was/is 18:31 havent seen him in awhile 18:31 but that's where 'luck of the grasshopper' came from 18:32 makes sense, that's what the consensus was in #hardfought too 18:32 he has a 19 streak in vanilla nethack 18:32 but I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth 18:32 * K2 neighs 18:32 lol 18:32 so you may be thinking 'so what Tariru has a 61 streak' 18:33 but Grasshopper's streak is elberthless 18:33 whereas tariru uses the e-word like its going out of style 18:34 so the reason beholder !rng command messes with grasshopper is because the rng (in game) seems to favor him? 18:34 this makes me want to email Grasshopper and say 'wtf are you' 18:34 omg you have no idea 18:34 * hothraxxa is the horse 18:34 crazy lucky 18:34 well i coined the phrase 18:34 he's also why giant centipede is a thing in evilhack 18:35 he kept getting attacked by centipedes 18:35 in real life 18:35 got bit *twice* 18:35 had to go to the hospital for at least one of them 18:35 jeez 18:35 we were chatting and i mentioned that i watched a fair amount of his play and i didn't see much difference between his choices and mine, yet he was on a 19 streak 18:35 i think it was 16 at the time 18:36 so i called it the luck of the grasshopper 18:36 ^ that 18:36 hothraxxa: why is it luck of THE grasshopper (as opposed to "luck of grasshopper")? to match "luck of the irish" or something like that? 18:36 by which i mean not that the rng favours him, but that he facilitates his own luck by careful play 18:37 and the rng has a hard on for him 18:37 well because that's how i turned the phrase 18:37 basically his style is to know your risks and avoid them as much as possible 18:37 the villagers down in the valley sing songs of his legend 18:38 rumor has it he IS the RNG 18:38 tariru plays the same way but he uses elbereth freeely and grasshopper does not 18:38 didnt i just say that :P 18:38 yes you did 18:38 alrighty 18:40 anyway qt, it's THE luck of the grasshopper because anyone can have it 18:41 except for you 18:41 you cant have it 18:42 the only thing named after me is that statue medusa keeps next to her 18:42 heh 18:43 i just sent Grasshopper an email 18:44 did you cc: tangles? 18:44 no 18:44 also mia 18:44 i spoke to Tangle about 3 weeks ago. he's got a lot on his plate atm 18:44 *Tangles 18:44 i hope things go well for him then 18:45 sure they will 18:45 nothing bad, just a lot of RL stuff going on 18:47 qt so what's this with artisaccing 18:48 * K2 scans backscroll 18:50 off yeah i see 18:50 oof 18:50 not off, oof 18:57 qt i'm looking at more of the #loot tweaks and fixes you've including in that PR for xnh 18:57 I imagine I want those last 2 for sure 19:02 sorry K2 I was on the phone with my boss so I couldn't reply 19:03 no worries. the beauty of irc, can message and will still be there a year later 19:03 let me see what the last 2 commits are in the xnh pr 19:04 yeah, the last one is not *that* important (basically it's just that normally a cursed potion or something that's not a 'real weapon' isn't welded to your hand, but it's treated like it is when you're using the #loot thing) 19:04 ok 19:04 grabbin both 19:04 but the second to last one is annoying, it definitely causes some impossibles and may cause other problems if you do something weird with it 19:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) stole 120 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Annootok's general store, on T:2894 19:05 because uwep refers to something that's not in your inventory any more 19:05 yeah 19:08 -!- tsadok has joined #evilhack 19:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/J3ZUS 19:09 -!- tsadok is now known as jonadab 19:09 [EvilHack] k21971 02f5b5c - Fix: minimum level was absent regarding altar sacrificing and receiving a gift. 19:09 [EvilHack] k21971 74c7ee5 - Fix: giving pet wielded/quivered item via #loot. 19:09 [EvilHack] k21971 8271f3d - Handle welded equipment in #loot more consistently. 19:09 hahah... 'J3ZUS' 19:09 nice 19:09 that's a sign from god for sure 19:09 praise the sun 19:09 god has blessed this endeavor today 19:11 k2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye7FKc1JQe4 tho 19:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:11 \o/ 19:11 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 19:12 choon 19:12 lol they look so english 19:12 LOL 19:12 there's a very special look that the english have :) 19:12 qt thinks thats waht english ppl look like 19:12 rofl 19:13 are they not english? 19:13 i will show u english ppl 19:13 hm idk 19:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:13 i assumed not 19:13 honestly idk where they are from, they just have a certain aura to their features imo 19:13 that reminds me of english people 19:13 oh ok 19:13 they are english xD 19:13 from Bath 19:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUXVg40c38 19:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhl-Cs1-sG4 this guy is def not english 19:15 but everybody calls him Giorgio ;3 19:16 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:16 wow that's a long sample 19:17 yeah but its a good sample 19:17 it's foundational 19:17 the guy practically invented synth pop 19:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 25 points, T:147, killed by a newt, while reading a book 19:22 idk anything about synth pop really 19:22 i like Suicide though does that count 19:22 hm 19:22 idk 19:22 never listened 19:22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn7SBQ6X5HU 19:24 rym calls is "synth punk" 19:24 but synthpop is one of the tags on there too 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 2609 points, T:3390, killed by a disenchanter 19:26 food time back ina bit 19:26 have a good food time K2 19:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 583 points, T:1135, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wererat 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1511 points, T:2810, killed by a piranha 19:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 631 points, T:979, killed by a dagger 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 452 points, T:1250, killed by a gnoll hunter 19:37 I added readable hawaiian shirts to the Evilhack wiki page 19:40 qt: pog 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 67 points, T:746, killed by a riding accident 19:45 The 2nd poisoned arrow hits Olivia the Canoness. The poison was deadly... Maybe not... The 3rd poisoned arrow hits Olivia the Canoness. The poison was deadly... 19:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1304 points, T:1878, killed by a giant mosquito 19:45 Olivia, terrible luck Olivia 19:46 F 19:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 4593 points, T:5180, killed by a goblin-captain 19:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1924 points, T:2766, killed by a rock gnome 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 556 points, T:1479, killed by an enormous rat 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11611 20:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:1473 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 920 points, T:1585, killed by a rabid dog 20:12 hate poison instadeaths. 20:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:2434 20:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1480 points, T:2347, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 282 points, T:740, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) murdered Woof, her faithful little dog, on T:1486 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12525 21:28 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 21:34 !who 21:34 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:34 omg i ate too much 21:39 magical breathing, man, magical breathing! 21:39 put it on before you overstuff and die 21:39 hah 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 592 points, T:2147, killed by Mr. Kabalebo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 22:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1435 points, T:3055, killed by a gnome lady, while reading a book 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6703 22:34 oh god i hate when my cat wakes up the nymphs dammit 22:36 i know it's mithril, but a 1250 dollar mithril lamp can't be oil right? 22:36 its prob magic 22:37 i mean... he wants to pay ME 1250 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:6782 22:38 i think i'll bless that one and rub if i ever find an altar 22:38 Lamp prices in the high triple-digits or more are like, 99% magic 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9644 points, T:5866, killed by a jaguar 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 40153 points, T:17430, killed by a gnoll hunter, while praying 22:49 The first of many 22:49 For Yeenoghu! 22:59 YANI: Yeenoghu may generate peaceful if you have never killed any gnolls by the time you see him. 23:03 Seconding 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1620 points, T:2233, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 23:20 aosdict: But nobody cares if the gnolls die! 23:20 aosdict: It's why they laugh! 23:26 yeenoghu peaceful? that's way out of character 23:26 he doesnt give two shits about his minions 23:26 I mean he appears peaceful if you same-race sac as a chaotic so 23:26 he shouldnt 23:27 * Umbire shrugs 23:28 Those make for some *really* interesting bones. 23:40 K2: I just found a shop, with the door *closed*. There was no engraving saying "closed", though. 23:40 might be a 2nd door? 23:40 Closed shop doors are normal :v 23:40 Now if it's LOCKED 23:41 No, only the one door. It wasn't locked, however, interesting. 23:41 shop doors can be closed and unlocked 23:41 perfectly normal 23:42 shop doors are usually open because something nearby happened to open it 23:43 I think they're *unlikely* to be closed, as a trapped door turns locked, and a empty doorway becomes an open door... but it can still just be closed 23:43 This one just happened to be closed, and that's _unusual_ for me. 23:43 Except for a minetown shop, actually, now that I think of it. 23:43 well it sounded like you are reporting a bug 23:43 but no bug that I see 23:44 I thought it was a possible bug. 23:44 no bug 23:44 But apparently not at all. 23:44 Yeah. 23:44 just someone used to waltzing right into shops 23:44 * aosdict genocides a 23:44 without so much as a knock 23:44 * aosdict is wiped out! 23:44 or a howdy do 23:45 Yep, that's me! :D 23:45 I'm a "millenial". 23:46 you and your avocado toast! 23:47 We know how to eat. 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 246 points, T:1225, killed by a large mimic 23:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2661 points, T:4077, killed by a warg 23:57 millennials are being killed by the warg industry 23:57 That was a crazy tough warg. So many psionic attacks. So many dagger stabs. Even two zaps with striking, though one missed. 23:57 Next game will be Monk, though I must head home first.