02:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:05 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:19 wipe away monster markers, use m prefix to move onto a boulder, wand engraving autoid, check, check, check :-) 04:23 pet looting 04:27 noone managed to abuse infidel spellrun strats before it was fixed :( 04:27 speedrun* 04:53 good one, pet looting: check! 04:54 I wonder how that will work in shops 04:57 hobbit pickpocket \o/ 05:08 "Hello, vermin." lol 05:09 Unfortunately my pet already died of sickness before I could try it in a shop 05:22 Monster lookup for "rock gnome" \o/ 05:26 oh, no water on this first mine level. reduced chance. 05:29 passage blocked by magic trap, that is annoying... 05:34 damn, giants hunger so rapidly 05:36 yeah, I think K2 said they shouldn't do though and that we're all imagining it 05:36 "You feel that eating the kitten was a bad idea." as a giant infidel?? :b 05:37 ^ K2 maybe that should be ok for infidel? 05:38 Oh, only aggravates monsters. I do that already. 05:51 I reckon that should be; "The kitten tasted like chicken!" 05:51 Though... That's because in some countries it's (deceptively) sold as chiken, apparently. 06:28 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 06:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37 ""Yeah, thanks for shopping in Akalapi's general store. Move along now..." :') 06:40 dbanenet's been busy. 06:47 Three bones in a row! 06:47 dbanenet has been _very_ busy. 06:47 how're you finding 0.7 so far then mobileuser? 06:48 This is still 0.6 07:03 Mine is 0.7 Arahael, has au been updated in the menu? 07:03 I guess not. 07:04 Australia is always behind! 07:04 amateurhour very nice so far, you should try it ;-) 07:04 too hard for my chimp brain 07:05 even easier to do boulder strats now 07:05 can't figure out how I'd kill rodney 07:05 get good at spellcasting maybe 07:07 he only resist fire/poison. cold blast, acid blast... 07:07 lol 07:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3329 07:14 au was updated... Arahael do you just stay logged in to dgl? lol 07:14 if so you'd need to log out and log back in to catch the changes 07:15 K2: Ha. Ok - are the savegames compatible? 07:15 no 07:15 So I'd best finish this one then, instead? 07:15 once your last 0.6 game is over you'll transition to 0.7 07:15 Ah! So that'll be why, then. 07:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3582 07:23 argh. I'm wearing gauntlets of protection and still a nymph got 2 steals in 2 attempts 07:24 nymph got amulet of yendor, will she try to ascend now 07:26 you're not in the end game 07:26 only kidding ;-) 07:26 its a legit question. i'd like the AI to have a monster with th amulet try to escape post haste 07:27 ok wow! 07:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a dwarf corpse, on T:4650 07:27 but yeah for a monster to ascend with the amulet they have to be in astral on the correct altar 07:27 trying to figure if there is a way for an infidel to get long sword skill 07:28 probably only by wearing HoOA first 07:28 back in a bit 07:35 hey can you permaconvert as an infidel? 07:37 I guess infidels don't pray at altars to get gifts. 07:47 arahael they do, but you first need a Moloch altar 07:48 amateurhour I have been wondering that myself. I suspect it would make the game unwinnable. 07:48 mobileuser: There's a few guaranteed ones, at least. :) What about their quest, though? 07:48 that also has a Moloch altar 07:49 reward is the Idol (Pw regen) that you need to win the game 07:49 Nice. 07:50 the quest nemesis is extremely difficult, I always use boulder fort and fire balls on her. 07:50 mobileuser: So finally something harder than master kaen, then? ;) 07:51 absolutely 07:51 Nice. 07:54 yeah harder than kaen imo too 08:23 weee 08:23 bhaak why? why you gotta ask me tough questions like that on reddit 08:23 :P 08:24 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:24 morning qt 08:24 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/n0w41r/evilhack_070_has_been_released/ 08:24 nice! 08:25 i dont know your reddit name! 08:25 i gave props to you on the racial monsters bit and i couldnt remember your reddit name 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:54074 08:28 I will have to find it myself if you want it, it's like entrez but with a bunch of letters taken out and changed because nothing i tried was available lol 08:29 hah 08:29 if you post something, we'll see it 08:29 honestly I would rather just remain in the shadows without being linked to in the post 08:29 sure 08:29 shadow ronin 08:29 lol 08:30 btw I tried some shoplifting stuff with the #loot system, it's a little weird 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 225 points, T:1253, killed by a gecko 08:32 how so 08:32 every word shorter than 'entrez' is just 'entrez' with a bunch of letters taken out and changed 08:32 so no wonder you can't remember it 08:32 using #loot doesn't affect the unpaid status of the item. so if you pick something up and give it to your pet, then your pet drops it on the floor, it's still counted on your bill 08:33 hah 08:33 amateurhour: lol true, it's something like nterz so it's still recognizable at least 08:33 so its kinda like your kid racking up 10k in charges on your amazon account because you let them handle your phone for 5 min 08:35 haha 08:36 more like taking a phone off the shelf at the store, handing it to your kid to look at, your kid puts it back, and then you still have to pay for it 08:36 with 10k worth of charges to amazon 08:37 :P 08:37 but it's not such a big problem since you can just pick up the unpaid item and set it down yourself to clear the bill. it's not possible to add the same item to your bill multiple times or anything like that 08:37 'this is a demo phone, how did you get to my account??' 08:37 lol 08:37 heh 08:37 aw that's a shame, I was gonna go for the world record in amount stolen 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:54287 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54352 08:45 krm26 is back 08:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:8481 09:09 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:09 * Arahael loves flying his pseudodragon. 09:09 Or her? Did I just assume my gender? 09:09 How do I check? :/ 09:10 Mon Hum Mal Neu 09:11 or in the game: #attributes 09:11 ctrl+x is a shortcut for #attributes I think 09:11 can't remember 09:11 that's why I use the extended form :b 09:12 ctrl+x or #attributes is what I was after! Thanks. 09:12 Weird, usually I play female. 09:14 "peaceful hobbit priestess of Blind Io" lol 09:15 why's that funny mobileuser? 09:19 they didn't spend a decade in the seminary just to be laughed at for their occupation >:( 09:32 K2: Found a bug, at least in 0.6... 09:33 oh? 09:33 K2: It seems that when you're dipping stuff in fountains, sometimes you have an urge to take a bath and you loose money... Even if you're currently riding a pseudodragon. 09:33 And you're still riding afterwards. 09:34 i dont think thats a bug? 09:35 and that would definitely be vanilla behavior 09:35 Yep, but how does one bathe whilst riding? 09:35 baby wipes 09:36 * Arahael is disgusted. 09:36 qt just the experience of seeing h as a priest for the first time 09:36 but I'm seeing mountain dwarves etc. but regular hobbits are still hobbits? 09:36 yeah 09:37 ... hah 09:37 Is the mountain dwarf thing an anti-geno measure? 09:37 (you can see where I am going) 09:37 partly 09:37 yeah 09:38 crap... i forgot to do player race template for hobbits 09:38 oopsies 09:38 Have I found First Bug? :-) 09:38 oh wait... THAT'S why i didnt have hobbits as priests before 09:39 and then i slipped them back in and i couldnt remember why they were excluded 09:39 easy fix 09:39 but to do it properly, would be a save-breaking change 09:40 as in, allowing hobbits to be priests 09:40 ouch... 09:40 yeah 09:40 its easy enough to exclude them from now, that wont break anything 09:41 but for next version, yeah I could have the hobbit placeholder template and then the actual hobbit monster 09:43 so for all the testing thats done before release, the real bugs dont show until you release and have ppl play 09:43 and then its 'omg how did i miss that' 09:44 the period between new release and junethack is called the 'shakedown' period 09:44 junethack is shakedown 2nd phase 09:44 then on to shakedown 3rd phase 09:44 then release of next version 09:44 lol 09:44 and so on lol 09:45 also, i just thought of something 09:45 while vecna exists, liches cant be geno'ed 09:45 but what if you go extinctionist 09:45 what if you spend the time to manually kill all lich types and alhoons 09:46 why is that a problem? 09:46 its not 09:46 i thought the geno block was to make it harder to bypass alhoons 09:46 i'm just contemplating things 09:47 lol thats not the sole purpose of the geno block 09:47 oh what is the purpose? i figured that was the main thrust of it 09:47 i had that idea for a side branch before alhoons were a thing 09:47 the purpose was just that it was cool. nice story flavor 09:48 ever read the Anne Rice series on vampires? 09:48 destroying the main vampire could destroy all of them 09:49 i always thought that was neato 09:49 neat - O 09:49 nae nae 09:49 ^ scottish for neato 09:50 brb 09:50 och aye 09:50 she has an orphanage in new orleans 09:51 anne rice 09:51 well, a former orphanage 09:51 and maybe she sold it lol 09:51 but she used to own it at least 09:51 https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home/decorating-ideas/a32511/anne-rice-orphanage-hosue/ 09:51 pretty nice place 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5137 09:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 73336 points, T:11993, disintegrated by a beholder 09:56 So sad. I had so. much. loot. 09:57 Well, next game is v0.7, at least, so K2 will be pleased. G'night everyone! 09:57 night Arahael 09:57 sorry about the beholder 09:57 oof 09:57 gnite Arahael 09:57 Yeah, no reflection. :( 09:58 I probably had the amulet, actually, I should check - but it wasn't identified, and it's tough to choose only two out of reflection, robe, or MR. 09:58 !lastgame 09:58 Arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1619699290.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1619659000.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1619610748.evil.html 09:59 Nope, no reflection, but the wand of polymorph was identified. I could've poly'ed for reflection. 09:59 So. Much. Loot. Very little was identified - always a struggle. 10:00 Sad that definitely won't become a bones level, since it's 0.6 10:03 Oh, yeah. FIVE bones levels in that game. Woah. Anyway, bed. 10:06 'night 10:07 !tell Arahael only blindness works against a beholder, reflection would not have saved you 10:07 I'm on it, mobileuser. 10:07 mobileuser: I didn't even realise there was a beholder. 10:07 Arahael: Message from mobileuser at 2021-04-29 10:07 EDT: only blindness works against a beholder, reflection would not have saved you 10:08 heh 10:08 mobileuser: It would've saved me from the disintegration, though. 10:08 no 10:08 No? Wow. 10:08 or was that a black dragon? 10:08 It was a beholder. 10:08 yeah, you need to be blind 10:09 mobileuser: So the instant a beholder exists, you need to blind yourself? Wow. 10:09 yeah and then kill it asap 10:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3tjr 10:09 [EvilHack] k21971 18438b8 - Some 2nd level sokoban levels had pits instead of holes. 10:09 or play as hothraxxa 10:09 mobileuser: That would've been a difficult level, then. 10:09 What does hothraxxa do? 10:10 asc run blind 10:10 Insane. 10:10 well, with warning and ESP... 10:10 Actually that would be quite nifty. 10:11 Especially with beholders. 10:11 esp wont work with beholders. they are mindless 10:11 warning is your best bet 10:12 I mean if you asc run blind 10:12 ah 10:12 nae nae 10:12 och aye 10:12 lol 10:12 I didn't even attack the beholder. 10:12 Arahael so? they are hostile :) 10:12 probably woken by combat 10:13 mobileuser: Almost certainly. 10:13 Well, I should get some sleep, seeing as it's friday. 10:15 its almost friday here 10:15 * K2 does the happy dance of glee and wonderment 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:8, killed by a cadaver 10:17 killed by a dead body 10:19 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J3qJR 10:19 [EvilHack] k21971 1b4c430 - Don't allow hobbits to be priests (monsters). 10:19 bit mean calling hobbits monsters 10:19 aww 10:20 lol 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Gia Fem Una) murdered Lady Gaga, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:281 10:20 Don't allow hobbits to be priests (filthy creatures) 10:20 haha 10:20 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2550/source 10:20 Maybe this is a vanilla thing, but I think I used a teleport trap to get into a vault whilst wearing the amulet of yendor 10:21 does aoy normally prevent teleport traps from working? 10:22 well, every time I hit one I just "shudder" 10:22 maybe you're thinking about how filthy hobbits are 10:22 i shudder when it crosses my mind too 10:22 lol 10:22 I wonder what happened to the hobbit priest after this fix 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 8578 points, T:7159, killed by a bolt of fire 10:23 it won't affect him 10:23 filthy hobbit! 10:23 k2 just removed the bit that lets them be randomly chosen as a priest race 10:23 so an existing hobbit priest will still be there I think 10:23 (her BTW) 10:24 yeah, the filthy peaceful hobbit priestess of Blind Io still lives 10:25 i havent updated the servers yet 10:25 any existing hobbit priests wont be affected 10:26 ach, ok 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Gia Fem Una), 1346 points, T:1336, killed by a mountain dwarf 10:27 the changes to sokoban, i dont want to update the server while games are in progress 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:7921 10:36 au and eu servers updated 10:37 \o/ 10:48 ettin mummy and unihorn has been nerfed 10:48 will this be interesting 10:48 what does ettin mummy and unihorn mean 10:49 withering changes 10:50 went from 89 to 40 but survived 10:50 o/ 10:50 \ 10:50 yeah, unihorn doesn't cure withering anymore 10:50 lol idk what happened there but you got a dance of joy 10:55 lol, thx ;-) 10:57 champions are already appearing and my AC is still too high, this is a disadvantage of giant infidel 10:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY 10:58 yeah, they are the champions :-) 10:59 lol 11:02 hey, no auto-id afer engraving with polywand 11:02 *after 11:02 did it used to do that? 11:02 it doesn't auto id the wand in vanilla, does it? 11:03 I noticed some wands now do auto-id after engraving? 11:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/054b5267166397ee7dd5ceba4d68ea7d9c4022df 11:09 oh yeah that seems like a bug 11:09 literally unplayable, gotta revert to 0.6 for junethack 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "Blessed +3 fixed dragonbane", on T:11732 11:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:12 Yay found another bug :-) 11:12 the postknown = TRUE on engrave.c:756 should be preknown = TRUE I think 11:13 it's a bug in xnh too 11:13 aosdict ^ 11:13 engrave.c:701 in xnh I think 11:13 the WAN_POLYMORPH one 11:16 K2: you posted on reddit, you get roasted on reddit 11:16 you make me sad 11:16 the decolored VotD got me thinking. with 24 bit colors, you could make a desaturated version of the votd, possibly it would also look good with 256 colors 11:17 (of course, you could recolor the 16 system colors, but we play nice with terminal and don't force our colors onto them) 11:18 my terminal colors get messed up when I spectate curses games 11:18 they do? I thought this doesn't work. 11:18 same for me 11:18 ow 11:18 yeah it only happens somewhat rarely so it's probably some specific menu that has a bug 11:18 or something like that 11:18 brb, ripping it out 11:19 ah the slex technique 11:19 bug with curses -> disable curses 11:19 I suppose, you need to watch the game from the start. 11:19 I don't think so 11:19 the color are only changed on initialization 11:19 can you even spectate someone's game from the start? 11:19 from the start or from a reload 11:19 if you are on the first level since starting or reloading. 11:20 erm, not you, the player 11:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:20 dgamelaunch tries to checkpoint the ttyrecs. it looks for a specific code that should be output when you change a level 11:20 so that it doesn't have to replay the whole ttyrec 11:27 k2 I'm disappointed you didn't highlight readable hawaiian shirts in the announcement 11:27 since that's one of the most anticipated features by far 11:28 wow wtf i love evilhack now 11:28 omg 11:28 did i forget that? 11:29 hey would the infidel gain level trick qualify for bug hall of fame 11:29 and if so would a brave and charming and handsome wiki user add it? :) 11:30 i dont think thats hall of fame 11:30 you can edit reddit posts 11:31 i love amy 11:31 soooo much 11:31 DBD::mysql::db do failed: Data too long for column 'hybrid' at row 1 at 11:31 lol 11:31 that field is char(127) 11:31 wtf did she do to make something more than 127 char long 11:31 epic 11:32 hybrid is presumably hybrid races 11:32 you can add all of them at once 11:32 fucking dumb 11:32 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Race/Slash%27EM_Extended any bolded races in this list 11:32 you can be as many of those together as you choose 11:33 max i can go is 255 11:34 qt, xnh scoreboard is good to go - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/xnh-last/ 11:34 nice, what was the problem? 11:34 new xlogfile flags in xnh 11:35 needed to switch an int() to varchar() 11:35 ah 11:35 yeah that took a lil bit of searching. i dont live in mysql all day everyday :) 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16566 11:40 fixed slex issue too 11:40 well, more like tolerated slex issue 11:40 ugh 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18466 12:03 wtf izchak is racist?? 12:03 k2 please fix 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 1980 points, T:2153, killed by a fire ant 12:04 hahaha 12:04 nice 12:12 I thought there was an izchak line that was insensitive to gay people but not a racist one 12:15 izchak racism is a new evilhack feature 12:16 it's 'racial prices' 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23122 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4049 points, T:3326, quit 12:35 but also racist insults 12:38 oh because of the new chat changes 12:38 gotcha 12:40 i've thought about that 12:40 should izchak be excluded from the love/hate tone of interaction based on race 12:41 dunno, what do you all think? 12:44 i think it's pretty jarring for izchak to call the player an asshole or whatever, and racism just seems out of character for him to me 12:45 i think it would be better if he were excluded, it's not like that's really exploitable since he just buys and sells light sources 12:47 I'm not a big fan of the "hello, asshole" stuff anyway though so I may not be the best person to judge whether it fits in this case 12:49 its not 'asshole' 12:49 i know 12:49 i do agree though, i think izchak should be excluded 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24140 12:51 static const char *hatesrace[] = { "scum", "vermin", "peasant", "scalawag", 12:51 "wretch", "miscreant", "maggot", "lowlife" }; 12:51 qt: is that your name so you can roleplay flirting with the shopkeepers 12:51 "hello qt welcome to foo's bar store *wink*" 12:52 yes, similarly I like when k2 writes "thanks for noticing this, qt" in evilhack commit messages 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo3 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 117574 points, T:24300, killed by a healer called Olaf the Dresser, while paralyzed by a monster 12:54 hugs 12:57 rip 13:03 dammit olaf 13:03 hmm 13:04 trying to find an easy way to set urace.hatemask to zero if izchak 13:04 so i dont have to edit a ton of stuff in shk.c 13:04 you... don't want to be editing urace 13:04 that'll apply globally 13:05 err.. oops yeah 13:05 it needs to happen in shk.c 13:05 good call 13:05 who does Izchak hate now? 13:05 time to do a bunch of small edits 13:05 oh k2 there's actually a problem in shk.c 13:05 with the racial shopkeeper change 13:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8c6d04c1e2975433fce44a8c2ec6df5f782d0405 13:05 qt oh? 13:06 the race insults don't use the erac stuff so they're all going off the base shopkeeper flags 13:06 i will change it one min 13:06 neat lol 13:06