00:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:00 Awesome. 02:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:14 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 03:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:51 fwiw I rebased again on latest master and still got a segfault (number one on recent txt link) 05:14 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 05:16 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 06:04 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:15 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:35 also several impossibles like 'no reason for monster to cast blindness spell?' 06:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:10 amateurhour that first one is prob a placement issue with b&c still attached 07:10 i should go through 3.7 and see what b&c changes have been made that didnt make it into 3.6 07:12 never seen the impossible before 08:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 08:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:24 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 08:26 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:46 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2015 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1746 points, T:2410, zombified by an elf zombie 09:15 !lastgame dbanethacker 09:15 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1619409171.evil.html 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2165 points, T:3023, poisoned by a water moccasin 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 276 points, T:548, killed by a water demon 09:25 i'm thinking about bringing ball.c back to stock, get things back to square one 09:26 you're going to sell shares of ball.c stock? 09:26 everyone dump all your money into BALL! go go go! 09:26 Tangles had made some edits to it way back when evilhack was new, i think while fixing some things with b&c rusting away/wrong position, it may have introduced more issues 09:26 as in revert everything in the ball and chain stuff to vanilla? 09:26 yeah 09:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:27 I mean I don't think it'll help that much, vanilla ball and chain stuff doesn't rust the ball away ever 09:27 right 09:27 but it might make merging 3.7 in later less painful so why not 09:27 but you said you're still getting b&c crashes even after the commit that doesnt let them rust away anymore 09:27 yeah that first one in particular, seen twice now, not seen the other two yet 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:493 09:27 but only fuzzed a handful of times this morning 09:28 fuzzy balls 09:28 might do more later but at work atm 09:29 at work too, i wont be able to do anything right away 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 816 points, T:933, killed by a copper arrow 09:32 do you have a backtrace amateurhour? or are they identical to the other crashes 09:33 it's the first one in the previous txt I sent 09:33 https://0x0.st/-m4m.txt 09:34 oh I see you said that already, sorry 09:35 maybe in time I can forgive 09:35 but I will never forget 09:35 lol 09:35 * K2 slides a zorkmid to amateurhour 09:35 can you forget now? 09:35 (coincidentally, enough time has passed now for me to forgive) 09:36 * K2 slides another zorkmid to amateurhour 09:36 what was I just talking about 09:36 nuthin' 09:40 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 09:40 Maud? 09:42 :P 09:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:47 very weird. the reason for the crash must be that the ball was destroyed within drag_ball, but I thought we prevented that... 09:47 which is why i want to get ball.c back to stock vanilla settings 09:47 i feel in this instance, it may be a good idea to go back to square one 09:48 first go back to 3.6.6 stock ball.c, then see what changes/improvements have been made since 3.7 09:50 although I'm memeing about delaying 0.7 over it I don't think it's a showstopper 09:50 considering it's already live like that 09:50 and it's hard to trigger and you've got to be some kind of maniac 09:51 /msg Demo hit me up for some evilhack wish farming 09:51 (just kidding) 09:51 do you have a sense of what triggers it now? I was able to reproduce the same backtrace by jumping into the water with an almost-totally-rusted chain, but I can't do it any more 09:52 maybe impossible to say I guess if it's from the fuzzer 09:52 I have no idea honestly, one of the last displayed map looked like both ball and chain were in separate water tiles 09:52 I'll screenshot next time 09:59 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 10:00 I got a crash from the fuzzer 10:00 not related to ball and chain though 10:00 mon at <12,9> is not there! 10:01 yeah there's a few out there still 10:01 monster at <12,9>: a large cat named Macavity 10:01 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:01 yes, that was a reference to Andrew Lloyd Weber's magnum opus Cats 10:02 i only make jokes based on musicals now 10:03 omg 10:03 couldnt you just say 'hey here's a joke... Cats' 10:03 or '2020' 10:04 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1808 points, T:2435, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:06 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:10 how does the fuzzer do this lol https://0x0.st/-mxB.png 10:10 i assume it's some sort of symset thing but that seems like it shouldn't change the menus... 10:14 i get that too sometimes 10:14 K2: isn't it cats 2018 that's the joke 10:14 definitely 10:14 the musical itself is extremely weird but not entirely ludicrous 10:14 i'm not a big fan of musicals 10:15 * aosdict likes musicals 10:16 some are alright 10:16 though the only one I managed to see on actual Broadway before it died was phantom of the opera 10:16 'The Greatest Showman' was alright 10:16 movie 10:16 seen Les Mis? 10:16 long time ago 10:17 the 25th anniversary recording of the stage show is awesome and I thoroughly recommend it 10:17 my wife is really into musicals, so is my kid 10:18 get the 25th anniversary of les mis for them :) 10:18 'Daddy, I don't like that song' *casts acid blast* 10:18 k2 speaking of acid I found a problem 10:18 polyself into an acid sphere and explode at thin air with F-direction 10:18 game crashes 10:19 blah 10:19 a wizmakemap segfault as well for ur viewing pleasure: https://0x0.st/-mxj.txt 10:19 i must have forgotten something when creating them 10:19 https://termbin.com/lf7a i think 10:19 i think fixes it* 10:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] commodore96 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 401 points, T:1420, killed by a water moccasin 10:19 doh 10:19 i should have knowb better 10:20 known 10:23 oh you probably need to do the same thing in explmm K2 10:23 qt: https://0x0.st/-mxB.png that looks like rendering in the alternate charset. you know the one for decgraphics. you can trigger that yourself on the terminal by "echo tqqqqu" 10:23 yup i'm checking all the way around 10:24 qt: probably naming something with ctrl-n? 10:27 that makes sense bhaak, I can't seem to do it deliberately but maybe the fuzzer is inserting the control characters into the name in some more direct way? 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JOFDG 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 37239c8 - Fix: crash if acid sphere explodes at nothing. 10:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:37 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] commodore96 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became permanently transformed into a dwarf zombie, on T:1780 10:51 6 oooh 10:52 ^ 10:52 that'll be more common in 0.7 10:52 i wanna see someone ascend as a zombie 10:52 or a spectre 10:56 go go commodore96! 10:58 actually if you arise as a spectre and can continue, your odds are decent-ish 11:18 -!- joes has left #evilhack 11:20 k2: did you realize the watchmen in minetown have races now!? 11:21 sweet 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 11822 points, T:5253, killed by a leocrotta 11:21 I noticed a related bug having to do with vault guards having a race, I think for now they should not have one 11:22 the vault guards are "stored" at 0,0 for safe keeping, or something like that, and if one is a dwarven guard he will try to dig at 0,0 which is a problem 11:22 ah 11:22 yeah good call 11:22 https://termbin.com/mdsg 11:23 the digging stuff could also just make sure the monster isn't at 0,0 before continuing, but there are probably a bunch of other weird edge cases like that 11:27 i need to look at gear allocation for watchmen types now since they're racial 11:28 make sure we dont have giants wearing body armor or centaurs wearing boots 11:28 i just incorporated that termbin 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Pri Ith Fem Cha) murdered Lola, her faithful kitten, on T:235 11:30 lol at the digging dwarf guard 11:31 heh 11:35 ah yeah we're already gtg 11:35 PM_WATCHMAN shares same kit selection as PM_SOLDIER 11:36 watch captain and captain also share same kit 11:37 yup we're good 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 125 points, T:280, killed by a gnome lord 11:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JOFxA 11:40 [EvilHack] k21971 84bd73d - Prevent vault guards from having random race. 11:51 I have been running the fuzzer but I can't get a ball and chain related bug to happen 11:53 amateurhour do you setup any specific conditions to get the b&c to do bad things whilst fuzzing? 11:55 I always start as a convict, and compile out throwing panic on impossibles 11:55 you are for sure running a version with that new ball and chain commit from yesterday night (EST), right? 11:55 yes 11:55 how do you compile out panic on impossible? 11:56 I just modify the bit in impossible where it calls panic 11:56 oh ok I thought maybe it was some flag you had to set 11:56 that makes sense 11:56 it should be a flag or something really but it doesn't matter 11:58 the fuzzer keeps managing to unpunish itself 11:58 if it doesn't get anything after a while I just start again 12:02 ooh I got a different one but it's a ball and chain one 12:03 yeah there's a few, like 3 or 4 12:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26 jeez I just can't get the water-related stuff to happen and I should probably be doing actual work rn lol 12:26 maybe you will have more luck when you are able to give it a shot K2 12:26 your boss hired me to tell you, get back to work 12:32 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 12:33 hah 12:33 i rarely get the fuzzer to find b&c related stuff either 12:33 i think amateurhour is messing with us 12:34 'oops, i'm fuzzing version 0.3.2' 12:37 lol I'm not messing, it's less common that before but still happens 12:37 not seen cases 2 or 3 yet so far today 12:48 :P 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1867 points, T:3647, killed by a giant beetle 13:04 yeah i'm gonna bring ball.c back to as close to vanilla as possible. the changes arent much, but there are a couple places where it now assumes the ball and/or chain rusted away 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 255 points, T:1271, killed by an acidic corpse 13:15 looking at commit history for 3.7, there have been some fixes post 3.6 13:15 going to bring those in for the lulz 13:16 some of these fixes are in teleport.c :) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4510 points, T:4367, killed by a queen bee 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 849 points, T:1560, poisoned by a giant mosquito 13:40 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 13:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49 some of the 3.7 fixes/changes I had already added... one of them incorrectly doh 13:49 left out a 'uball' 13:50 fixed now... 13:52 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 13:53 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:11 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 14:12 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:18 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 14:20 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13 totally beautiful and stable genius idea: you can summon a medicine ball to sit and bounce on and throw at monsters. this also uses uball 15:14 you always have such great ideas aosdict 15:15 are medicine balls the same as those big ball chair things? 15:16 also you should be able to eat them to cure sickness 15:18 amateurhour: 100% chance of choking 15:19 what if you have magical breathing 15:22 if a 1m diameter ball is stuck in your throat, that's not gonna help 15:23 but the breathing is MAGICAL 15:24 a 1m diameter ball stuck in your throat is uncomfortable, but you don't need air 15:25 there's air in the ball anyway so what's the problem? 15:26 * amateurhour quickly checks if they're actually hollow 15:27 for some reason I thought a medicine ball was like a weighted volleyball or something 15:27 I concede my title of medicine ball expert 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2329 points, T:2019, killed by a Green-elf 15:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:65294 15:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:65298 15:43 about to push some changes, can try fuzzing with those 15:44 -!- infinigon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:50 just waiting for this fuzz session to crash on 15:50 at 3 million turns and still going 15:55 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 15:55 if it goes that long I just abort 15:56 though I guess you're hoping for a record turncount 15:58 just cleared 6 mil 15:58 time to abort 16:02 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±9] https://git.io/JObiM 16:02 [EvilHack] k21971 311478c - More ball & chain fixes. 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:66651 16:04 ^ pull that and fuzz again if you have time 16:04 see if anymore b&c issues come up 16:04 i ran fuzzer against that with a convict, so far so good 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:66925 16:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:67274 16:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 156 points, T:748, killed by a small mimic 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 197 points, T:437, killed by a small mimic 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 stone gauntlets of power", on T:147 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 2285 points, T:2165, killed by a soldier ant 16:44 can't say with certainty that it's fixed but so far a few fuzzer passes haven't seen it 16:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:69350 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:69356 17:02 a panic from a monster throwing a potion of blindness or something 17:03 https://0x0.st/-mg6.txt 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1829 points, T:2475, poisoned by a jumping spider 17:29 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed commodore96's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:683 18:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:73241 18:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:23 hi 18:23 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:99309 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:99317 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7505 18:55 k2 the ball can still be destroyed by smacking a black dragon with it 18:55 no 18:55 oh ball 18:55 prob 18:55 i thought you said bell 18:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:75769 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5030 points, T:3623, poisoned by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a potion 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 9600 points, T:7794, killed by an orc-captain 19:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 997 points, T:1503, killed by a giant mosquito 19:01 Argh! 19:01 I got distracted, I should've been way more careful there. :) 19:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1288709 points, T:75948, petrified by a beholder 19:14 k2 I think this will fix a number of black dragon vs ball and chain issues https://termbin.com/9etc 19:16 wielding the ball and hitting the dragon with it until it is destroyed currently may cause a crash when saving afterwards, or if no crash it will cause an impossible when loading the saved game 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1045 points, T:1659, killed by a jellyfish 19:20 oh wait 19:23 https://termbin.com/4gf7u <-- new and improved 19:23 i tried using 0x0 for the diff and it's kinda cool that it can automatically tell it's a diff: https://0x0.st/-m6f.diff 19:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:40 oh wow 19:40 thats neat 19:40 so this whole time i neglected b&c in regards to passive disintegration 19:40 err - mah - gerd 19:42 monsters never use iron ball so setting conditions in mhitm/mhitu is moot 19:43 i wonder how many of those fuzzer crashes were caused by passive disint 19:45 qt thanks for noticing that 19:50 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JONLW 19:50 [EvilHack] k21971 20f1c05 - Fix: ball & chain handling and passive disintegration. 19:51 food time, back in a bit 19:57 Hmm. A 'magical pair of snow boots'. 19:57 It's not levitation, and it's not jumping. 19:58 kicking? 19:58 I always forget about kicking 19:59 How do i know if that's the specific magical aspect? 19:59 Hmm, 100% success rate of kicking doors. That shouldn't be too hard to test. 20:00 It's definitely not 100%, so not kicking, then. 20:00 elven boots? if you already have stealth from another source they don't autoidentify 20:00 They don't seem to be stealth or speed. 20:01 could they be fumble boots? 20:01 I don't think illithid wizards have intrinsic stealth. 20:01 That's my worry, they haven't stumbled yet, though. 20:01 if you run at a closed door do you bang into it or stop beforehand? I think there are some ways like that to test if you are fumbling 20:02 It just says "the door is closed", so it looks like I stop beforehand. 20:02 yeah I think that means they aren't fumbling 20:02 so it must be water walking then right? 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:100908 20:02 are there any other possibilities? 20:03 Hmm! That'd be awesome, I should test that once I find some water. 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a pit fiend, on T:101042 20:06 Well, time for work. Laters! 20:06 see you 20:23 !tell k2 another minor problem, create a new character in wizmode and #wizgenesis a 'giant' -- it produces "rn2(0) attempted Program in disorder!". I think this fixes it https://termbin.com/ewx8 20:23 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, qt. 20:27 this might be a vanilla bug actually 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 931 points, T:1878, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:30 hmm I guess it's because you changed "giant" from base level 6 to base level 0 20:30 it would happen in vanilla if any sort of giant had a low enough base level, so I guess you could say it's a latent vanilla bug 20:31 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 241 points, T:700, killed by a dagger 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a mithril scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:101975 20:55 !tell qt thanks o/ 20:55 K2: Message from qt at 2021-04-26 20:23 EDT: another minor problem, create a new character in wizmode and #wizgenesis a 'giant' -- it produces "rn2(0) attempted Program in disorder!". I think this fixes it https://termbin.com/ewx8 20:55 No worries, K2, I've got this! 21:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JONCp 21:03 [EvilHack] k21971 3abc2c8 - Fix: #wizgenesis 'giant' caused rn2(0) 'program in disorder'. 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 171 points, T:1071, killed by a hobbit 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 801 points, T:1036, killed by a mithril arrow 22:19 woo i just fixed a fuzzer bug 22:19 (bug found whilst fuzzing) 22:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JON2N 22:33 [EvilHack] k21971 c03e162 - Fix: duplicate lightsource attempting to be created, type 0. 22:34 Hi. 22:34 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 22:34 How's the release go. 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 510 points, T:1997, killed by a kitten 22:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JONa9 22:40 [EvilHack] k21971 f03755e - Remove unnecessary code from last commit. 22:40 havent released yet 22:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:44 I thought you did release 0.6 already...? 22:46 long time ago 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (large mimics), on T:1034 22:49 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases/tag/v0.6.0 I mean this 22:49 Was wondering how things had gone since then 22:56 that was a re-release 22:56 Ah. 22:56 so now that 'release' is the same code being played on the hdf servers 22:57 As you'd said. 22:57 And I was wonder how things've gone since then. 22:58 well that was less than 24 hrs ago 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2630 points, T:4260, killed by a gnome lord 23:10 wondering* 23:11 -!- telegarn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:11 I noticed a few commits since then, nothing particularly major 23:13 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 23:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 12915 points, T:5793, killed by a mumak, while praying 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 240 points, T:678, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 23:44 Umbire: Commits are good for the soul. 23:46 K2: Imps should give relevant taunts. "There was once a nethack player, who is so stupid, they dipped a scroll of scare monster into a fountain to uncurse it!" 23:50 heh