00:01 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:20 !tell K2 how do you feel re: evil!Izchak spoilers on the wiki 02:20 I'm on it, Umbire. 02:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:35 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 02:35 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 02:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:55 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 02:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:59 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 03:09 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:11 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:27 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 03:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:14 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 04:17 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:05 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71141 05:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71147 05:55 EvilBot: I realise you're an AI so you probably don't understand human expressions, but usually when people tell you to tell someone how you feel, they don't usually mean that you should just relay just that message. Just a friendly tip. ;) 06:20 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 06:25 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 06:27 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:05 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2911 points, T:3931, poisoned by a rotted garter snake corpse 07:08 Bah. 07:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) performed the invocation, on T:71513 07:41 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 07:43 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 07:45 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 07:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:06 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 08:09 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:13 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 08:15 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:17 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JOKIa 08:17 [EvilHack] k21971 689e8ef - The Dark One's pointy hat isn't guaranteed. 08:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:71646 08:26 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 08:29 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4723 points, T:4096, killed by a barrow wight 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 427 points, T:1174, killed by a giant spider 08:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5818 points, T:3073, killed by a djinni called T. Rex 09:21 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JOKlk 09:51 [EvilHack] k21971 0a91d16 - Fix: reflecting Medusa's gaze with a mirror. 09:55 booo 09:55 yaaaay 09:55 K2: Message from Umbire at 2021-04-21 02:20 EDT: how do you feel re: evil!Izchak spoilers on the wiki 09:56 wot 09:56 yeah L3 didn't forget ;-) 09:56 isn't defeating Medusa witha mirror like 09:56 canon mythos 09:56 how can you change that 09:56 booooo 09:56 booooooooo 09:56 !tell Umbire spoilers on wiki is fine. that's what the wiki is, a giant spoiler for all things 09:56 Will do, K2! 09:56 boooooooooooooooooooooo 09:56 aoei you still can 09:56 oh ok 09:56 so what did you fix 09:56 its just more realistic 09:57 tell meeee 09:57 how bout read the commit notes 09:57 yeah but that requires me to click things 09:57 no different from having reflection 09:57 when i could just make you explain me it 09:57 first world probs 09:57 :< 09:57 ok fine 09:57 medusa can avert her eyes 09:57 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0a91d16889e54e56712eb869ff94e66cd05ed49f 09:58 the bug was that with a mirror she could not avert her eyes 09:58 ok interesting 09:58 boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 09:58 booooooooooooooooo 09:58 booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 09:58 booo 09:58 bo 09:58 the face of bo 09:58 * aoei agrees with k2 now sorry everyone else 09:58 boooo peep 09:59 hah 09:59 1/25 chance of it working 09:59 yup 09:59 cuz you can spam it 09:59 wait even if you're next to her 09:59 isnt it better odds closer 09:59 you could spend 25 turns in a row whilst within 8 squares of her spamming a mirror (~67% chance of success with 25 trials) 10:00 or you could just kick her to death in that time 10:00 not 8 squares 10:00 dist2 >8 isnt 8 squares 10:00 okey 10:00 its this: @.@ 10:00 oh it's squared isn't it 10:00 lol 10:00 medusa/tile space/you 10:00 so jelly fort spam mirror? 10:00 sure 10:01 or just wear reflection like a normal sane person would 10:01 in case you didn't know aoei: she has snakes on her head that can turn you to stone when in melee range 10:01 slow stoning tho, not instant 10:01 mobileuser: oh jeez 10:01 lol 10:01 i didnt know about that 10:01 > 09:15 wow evilhack made mirrors worth using 10:02 09:15 that's awesome 10:02 booooooooooooooooooooooooo 10:02 medusa got quite the overhaul/buff in evilhack 10:02 in vanilla she just can instadeath poison you 10:02 :^)\ 10:02 or gaze stoning 10:02 or die to her reflected gaze if you're not invis 10:02 K2: if slow stoning gives you one action to live, doesn't that mean she can "stonelock" you? 10:03 no its not one action 10:03 i would guess so 10:03 oh ok 10:03 it takes 5 turns once the process starts 10:03 ah ok 10:03 this is assuming you're not burdened or slow 10:03 right 10:04 well turns are still turns 10:04 its just you have fewer actions 10:04 if you're slow or wahtever 10:04 a good strat vs medusa now is try to take her out with ranged attacks if at all possible 10:04 she's vulnerable to fire 10:05 wand of fire/fireball spell makes quick qork of her 10:05 work 10:05 quark 10:05 querk 10:05 lepton 10:05 quack 10:06 * aosdict ducks 10:07 K2: the first thing slow stoning does is to make you slow though 10:07 so you will be slow 10:07 tru 10:07 not the very first thing 10:07 "the cockatrice bites! You are slowing down" 10:07 ? 10:07 thats just the feedback 10:07 look at the chain of events 10:09 did evilhack do anything to change from vanilla behavior where you have one turn until you become a statue (because the 3,4,5 turns are all just "Your limbs are stiffening. You are turning to stone. You have become a statue" with no player input), is what I'm asking 10:09 no 10:11 I splatted on an asc run once to a beholder who not only stoned me but also burdened me. I thought I would have a turn to put on a towel, but nooooo 10:11 so medusa snakebites you, and you have one turn to cure your stoning, right? 10:11 no 10:11 you have a few turns 10:11 if not burdened 10:11 ok sorry, you have a few *turns*, but only one of those turns gives you an *action* 10:12 you just said it's the same as vanilla where you have one action to prevent stoning 10:14 i just had 3 turns to do actions 10:14 very fast/unburdened 10:15 there's no bug here 10:18 @e?beholder 10:18 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravisible 10:19 do evilhack beholders have the slashem beholder bug(? feature?) where reflection doesn't help if you're invisible? 10:19 hmm i dont know 10:19 to the wizmodemobile 10:19 fyi beholder gaze attack was switched to slow stoning in evilhack 10:20 EPI: invisibility always makes reflection ineffective 10:21 oh wait... reflection doesnt work on gazes other than from medusa 10:21 (beholder) 10:21 ah the beholder instadeath gaze in slashem is the troublesome one 10:22 yeah poor eraserhead learned about that the hard way 10:22 amateurhour in grunthack its the same way 10:22 instastone 10:22 i thought it fair that only medusa should have that power 10:22 the slashem one is instadeath rather than stoning iirc 10:23 not instastoning or slow stoning 10:23 oh so AD_DETH 10:23 just straight ur dead 10:23 Vecna has that in evilhack, it behaves like being touched by Death 10:24 % chance you die outright, otherwise you feel drained, etc 10:24 even for demon infidels? 10:26 they are immune to death magic 10:26 as in being killed 10:27 but can still be drained? 10:27 i believe so yeah 10:27 i poly'ed into a balrog and let Death hit me 10:27 the instakill doesnt work, but i am still being drained 10:28 same for wand of orcus I think 10:28 lemme review the code just to make certain 10:32 ah i see 10:33 having MR protects from the instadeath chance 10:34 nothing here about being immune to death magic 10:35 there's this: 10:35 if (is_undead(youmonst.data)) { 10:35 pline("Was that the touch of death?"); 10:35 break; 10:35 } 10:35 right, but a demon is not undead 10:36 is_undead() should prob be immune_death_magic() instead 10:36 yes please :-) 10:36 ... no 10:36 :D 10:37 lol 10:37 lol 10:37 :P 10:37 yeah i'll change it, it makes sense 10:37 \o/ 10:38 in include/mondata.h 10:38 ./* is_vampshifter(mon) in handled explicitly in zap.c */ 10:38 #define immune_death_magic(ptr) \ 10:38 (nonliving(ptr) || is_demon(ptr) || is_angel(ptr) \ 10:38 || (ptr)->msound == MS_LEADER || (ptr) == &mons[PM_CERBERUS]) 10:38 nonliving() covers undead 10:38 MS_LEADER 10:38 quest leader 10:39 they're immune to death magic?? 10:39 yeah. that's from vanilla if i recall 10:39 TIL 10:40 hah no its not 10:40 lol 10:40 where did i get that from.. .maybe sporkhack 10:40 why the quest leaders specifically? lol 10:40 from my vanilla test game 10:40 What do you want to zap? [ijklm or ?*] i 10:40 In what direction? 6 10:40 King Arthur gets angry! The pages appear to be angry too... You kill King Arthur! You murderer! 10:41 hah 10:41 I feel like maybe it was intending to make the nemeses immune 10:41 surely 10:41 i need to ask old me 10:41 there was a reason for it 10:41 oh i think i remember 10:42 old me says 'because you can kill the quest leader to unlock the quest, using a wand of death is no longer a quick freebie way of doing that. gotta earn it' 10:42 thanks old me 10:42 s/old/past 10:42 plus they can show up when wishing for artifacts 10:42 i'm still old regardless 10:43 mobileuser that too 10:43 NO FREEBIES 10:43 PROGRESS THROUGH SUFFERING 10:43 ... DIRGE \o/ 10:43 but yeah i'll 'fix' that soon mobileuser 10:44 brb 10:54 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 10:56 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58 oh dammit I forgot the quest again 10:58 hah 10:58 how does one forget the quest? 11:01 had to go back for second hint :-) 11:02 did you see the commit i made yesterday about hints if quest leader is dead? 11:02 yes I did! 11:03 \o/ 11:03 if (immune_death_magic(youmonst.data)) { 11:03 ./* Still does normal damage */ 11:03 You("are unaffected by death magic."); 11:03 break; 11:03 } 11:04 what is "normal damage"? 11:04 physical 11:04 he still whacks you 11:04 and gaze attacks are typically 0, 0 11:04 ah, this is for the wand of orcus 11:05 or death touching you 11:05 nice! 11:09 in regards to wand of orcus you were already protected 11:09 but i'm making sure it covers immune_death_magic() and not just nonliving() and is_demon() 11:10 'Death reaches out with its deadly touch. You are unaffected by death magic.' 11:10 but you'll still take physical damage just from being hit 11:11 is allowing the player to polyself into something immune to Death really the desired outcome? 11:11 perhaps add an exception for Death personally 11:11 not a bad idea 11:11 Death is Death after all 11:11 maybe, but polyself has disadvantages too 11:12 he doesn't dish out death *magic*, he dishes out DEATH 11:12 all things must end 11:12 if you risk that, why not reap the rewards too 11:12 because cheesing a rider is an extremely good reward 11:12 nope 11:13 not "extremely" good 11:13 the disadvantages of polyself outweigh that 11:14 say you poly into a balrog just to handle Death. say goodbye to most of your armor 11:14 what are these amazing disadvantages 11:14 poly into vampire lord, two healthbars and resistance to death 11:14 V king polyself doesn't hurt armor and by my understanding resists death 11:15 besides, by the time you reach astral, if you have to poly into something death resistant to handle death, you shouldnt have gone to astral yet in the first place 11:15 gr8 m9s 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 8871 points, T:5322, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a potion 11:16 K2: not a question of "have to", it's a question of "should every evilhack player be controlled polyselfing into a vampire on astral so they can ignore Death" 11:16 I think it would become part of standard strategy 11:16 thats up the player 11:16 its not my job to decide what strat a player will or wont use 11:17 * amateurhour looks at everything having slow digestion in the astral plane 11:17 i set the conditions, its up to them how they want to deal with them 11:17 amateurhour using rain is still a valid strat 11:18 AND not everything has slow digestion 11:18 troll :) 11:18 I'm just messing with you :P 11:18 i know :P 11:18 ...unless? 11:18 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 11:18 unless... ? 11:18 anyways what's the actual problem here 11:18 there isnt 11:20 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:20 well ok, temporary vampire lord selfpoly to handle death would be fine (if you don't rely on certain silver items) 11:22 how does that work in vanilla, does dead drain your polyform max hp or your real self max hp? 11:25 i'm not sure if your real max hp is affected when poly'd 11:28 YASI: jelly worms. Split like puddings except without regard for the material you hit them with, have an engulfing digestion attack, and always resist charming/taming. 11:30 why is vampire lord better than vampire mage? 11:31 it was just the one that popped into my head first 11:37 vampire mage automatically casts monster spells when you melee, costing Pw. But perhaps for a temporary polyform that's ok. 11:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered the Planes, on T:73556 11:40 Hey, I didn't land on the plane of earth! :-( 11:40 oh noes 11:40 unplayable 11:40 #quit 11:40 :P 11:40 you fixed that for 0.6? 11:41 no? what did you do 11:42 cursed gain level dlvl 1 11:42 yup 11:42 yeah i havent changed anything in 0.6.0 11:42 hit 'v' check build date 11:42 Unix EvilHack Version 0.6.0-0 post-release - last build Sat Mar 27 22:19:21 11:43 2021 (cf3e65c54bbcebb455cb5ae118ff0302d124f1a9,branch:0.6.0). 11:43 ^ that's the last time i updated 0.6.0 11:43 so that cursed gain level dlvl 1 story was fake news? 11:43 no 11:43 or was that 0.7 only 11:43 in the code, it specifically has plane of earth as the place u go 11:44 the fix is in 0.7 11:45 hahah i knew it! 11:45 immune_death_magic() doesnt include Death 11:45 The ornate mace bashes Death! Death looks weaker! 11:46 so why did I end up on the plane of air? 11:46 i dont know 11:46 lol 11:46 it should have been earth 11:46 metabug 11:46 maybe earth_plane refers to dlvl -1 regardless 11:46 maybe it just picked one at random 11:46 bug report: the promised bug did not appear 11:47 lol 11:47 * K2 throws his hands up in despair 11:47 i cant win 11:47 * K2 halts all bug fixes 11:47 can't go live with 0.7 with all those bugs still in play 11:47 so that means no 0.7 before july \o/ 11:47 pfft 11:48 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 11:48 release is the true bug finding time 11:50 release is the true bug, finding time 11:50 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:50 ^ poetic 11:57 ok weird 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4099 points, T:3244, killed by an invisible bugbear 11:57 my wand of digging is only digging 1 square at a time on the plane of earth 11:58 never seen that before 11:58 punishment for quaffing cursed gain level 11:59 lol that's nuts 11:59 oh yeah? try a wand of digging on grunt's plane of earth 12:02 even the blessed pickaxe doesn't do its usual thing 12:03 do you have the dig spell? 12:04 yeah, same result 12:04 only 1 square 12:05 that's pretty wild 12:05 maybe water plane will have ordinary water 12:05 huh 12:14 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 12:15 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±7] https://git.io/JOKSW 12:15 [EvilHack] k21971 8a5d2a6 - Fix: address various monsters being affected by death magic that shouldn't. 12:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided krakens, on T:74007 12:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided electric eels, on T:74008 12:21 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 12:22 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:29 go mobileuser go! 12:29 did you do dishes first? 12:33 heh, no :-) 12:33 BLASPHEME 12:34 you should have some wands of speed monster on hand too 12:34 break that in presence of your woolly troop there, speed em up 12:35 nooo dont save! it was about to get good lol 12:35 yeah, I never do that 12:35 people are interrupting me, it's sad 12:36 they want dishes clean and they want them N O W 12:36 exactly, it never ends! 12:36 heheheh 12:36 wanna know what I did yesterday just to see how well it'd work? 12:36 it? 12:36 used a dishwasher instead of manually cleaning them? 12:37 i vacuumed rocks 12:37 amateurhour i have a dishwasher 12:37 wow you must be REALLY bored 12:37 omg 12:37 one simply does not just throw dirty dishes into the dishwasher 12:37 you have to get the big/crusty stuff off 12:38 but yeah, in my front yard for 45 min using a shop vac to vacuum rocks out of my yard 12:38 its tedious but it works 12:39 our driveway is gravel, every year during snow season, snow plow puts part of our driveway into the yard 12:39 hate it 12:39 but unavoidable 12:40 i was going to rent a 'power broom' last weekend but didnt have time 12:40 also known as a 'paddle sweeper' 12:41 lol speaking of snow... its snowing 12:43 your snow is my thunderstorms in an hour or two 12:43 heh 12:43 this wont last 12:44 any accumilation will be gone by tomorrow morning 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:10581 12:50 right, gotta go. to be continued in a few hours time 12:53 -!- stenno3 is now known as stenno 12:55 -!- raouf has joined #evilhack 13:07 ok mobileuser 13:24 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:32 -!- raouf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2789 points, T:3187, killed by a soldier ant, while sleeping off a magical draught 13:35 -!- raouf has joined #evilhack 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14387 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 79373 points, T:27006, killed by an orange dragon 13:40 -!- raouf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:41 -!- raouf has joined #evilhack 13:46 oh wow shield of reflection randomly on the ground on dl 3 13:46 (too bad i'm a monk) 13:47 use it as a veggie platter 13:48 lol 14:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 36930 points, T:17316, killed by an elf-lord 14:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master liches), on T:9016 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Hum Mal Law), 473 points, T:1457, killed by a giant spider 14:36 -!- System_64_ has joined #evilhack 14:36 -!- raouf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:48 -!- telegarn has joined #evilhack 14:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12790 15:04 -!- System_64__ has joined #evilhack 15:07 -!- System_64_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JO6Yx 15:12 [EvilHack] k21971 0a99516 - Luck plays a role in whether player can continue if they rise from the grave. 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:340 15:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a thonged club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:14227 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14305 15:27 back to the woolly stampede.. 15:28 :D 15:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:74134 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:74136 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the high priestess, on T:74153 15:38 lawful, need neutral 15:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:16404 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:74196 15:46 -!- System_64_ has joined #evilhack 15:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:74201 15:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:16797 15:47 -!- System_64_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:48 -!- System_64__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:17187 15:55 second altar chaotic 15:56 it will have to be the third 15:56 Evil grand tour ( ;;'-') 15:56 Umbire: Message from K2 at 2021-04-21 09:56 EDT: spoilers on wiki is fine. that's what the wiki is, a giant spoiler for all things 15:56 small break 15:57 K2: bet 16:00 heh 16:04 right :-) 16:07 why is "satiated" not abbreviated... 16:08