00:02 <Umbire> 2 meals for the price of one
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02:10 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Asmodeus, on T:60796
02:10 <Umbire> Yay
02:13 <mobileuser> :-)
02:13 <mobileuser> I was almost out of spellpower (killed Juiblex before that)
02:14 <mobileuser> I can't wield a nice silver weapon against these guys...
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04:11 <mobileuser> !lastgame dbanethacker
04:11 <EvilBot> mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1618640180.evil.html
04:11 <mobileuser> what is thinking behind reading unidentified scrolls whilst confused...
04:15 <amateurhour> is there some 200iq strategy where read-testing is safer whilst confusing?
04:16 <mobileuser> yeah I was wondering that
04:16 <amateurhour> i feel like amnesia and genocide both it never a good idea lol
04:16 <amateurhour> i accidentally a word
04:17 <mobileuser> but this is medusa, maybe they were expecting teleportation? but unlikely you don't know that scroll by then.
04:20 <amateurhour> I wish we could ask them
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05:39 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 3309 points, T:3943, killed by a wolf
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06:04 <mobileuser> @e?vorpal jabberwock
06:04 <EvilBot> vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, infravisible
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07:43 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, shot himself with a death ray
09:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3232
09:07 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3667
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09:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 6345 points, T:6059, killed by a baby green dragon, while praying
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10:18 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Con Orc Mal Cha), 2946 points, T:5140, killed by a steel crossbow bolt
10:40 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Kni Hum Fem Law), 523 points, T:2731, killed by a rothe
10:49 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 390 points, T:1142, killed by a giant leech
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13:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (dwarves), on T:1
13:18 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide
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14:08 <K2> setmintc post163 1000
14:08 <K2> !setmintc post163 1000
14:08 <EvilBot> K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for post163 set to 1000
14:09 <amateurhour> :(
14:09 <K2> :)
14:09 <Umbire> Yay
14:15 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 9595 points, T:5510, quit
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14:35 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Hum Fem Law), 715 points, T:1163, killed by a giant mosquito, while sleeping
14:36 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Mal Cha), 16 points, T:4, killed by a bear trap
14:56 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2340
14:58 <K2> heya qt
14:58 <qt> hey
14:58 <EvilBot> Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack
14:58 <qt> thanks EvilBot 
14:58 * K2 pets EvilBot
14:58 <K2> i'm going to release 0.7.0 soon
14:58 <K2> were there any other things you noticed that need attention/fixing?
15:00 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 10007 points, T:2713, killed by a watchman
15:00 <qt> cool! nothing that I can think of
15:01 <K2> ok
15:02 <K2> i'm looking over the pad to see what all might be save-breaking that I want to do still or need to do
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15:05 <K2> 'See if there's a way for a role's guaranteed sac artifact to have better odds of appearing vs regular gear' <--- trying to figure this one out but math eludes me atm
15:05 <K2> may save that for later, dunno
15:05 <K2> unless there's an easy solution
15:06 <K2> https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Neothelid <--- imagine running into one of those
15:06 <K2> ^ saving for future version maybe (0.8.0 or later)
15:10 <K2> oooh i just had an Idea™
15:11 <K2> omg this is so evil...
15:12 <K2> but it'll be fun. and rare
15:12 <K2> like, really really rare
15:12 <K2> RARE
15:15 <amateurhour> K2 in src/pray.c:2108 you can change that chance based on if ugifts is 0
15:15 <Umbire> ?
15:16 <amateurhour> (and if the role has a first sac gift I guess)
15:16 <K2> lemme look
15:17 <K2> blah my truck will be in the shop overnight
15:17 <K2> at least i have a loaner
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15:17 <qt> good call amateurhour
15:18 <K2> oh
15:18 <K2> so if u.ugifts = 0 <this chance> else <this other chance>
15:19 <qt> yeah or you could do something like this probably k2 https://termbin.com/39ky
15:19 <K2> did you really just whip something up in 3 min
15:19 <qt> actually that's backwards I think lol
15:19 <qt> just an example of a way to use it in the if statement
15:20 <amateurhour> to complicate it a lil: you should probs check there's a first sac gift that hasn't been generated yet
15:20 <K2> u.ugifts ? 10 : 0 <--- that i'm assuming, not ? 0 : 10 
15:21 <K2> amateurhour good call again
15:21 <K2> we have to do this for mobileuser so he's no longer much sadness
15:21 <amateurhour> it is really annoying to be fair :P
15:21 <K2> project 'more big good'
15:22 <qt> that would make it more likely to get an item if you have already gotten an artifact, but it wouldn't make it more likely to get an artifact
15:22 <K2> amateurhour yeah from time to time i've questioned how it works
15:22 <amateurhour> I think it's just annoying for first-sac gifts
15:22 <amateurhour> at least you'll eventually get it atm, not like slex *grumblegrumble*
15:23 <K2> bleh
15:23 <K2> qt so what should I use there, your termbin as is for flip the 0 and 10
15:23 <K2> pretend i dont know what math is
15:24 <K2> or numbers
15:24 <K2> or just things in general
15:24 <qt> u.ugifts ? 0 : -5 or something might work, I don't know for sure whether there's a problem with using a negative number in rn1 though
15:25 <K2> i need to refresh myself on rn1
15:25 <K2> i dont use it often
15:25 <qt> i think rn1(x, y) = rn2(x) + y
15:26 <K2> yup - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Rn1
15:26 <K2> ok i get it
15:26 <qt> using a negative number just gave me magicbane as a first gift k2
15:26 <K2> what about afterwards
15:26 <amateurhour> afterwards ugifts is > 0
15:27 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63470
15:27 <K2> so if no gifts, y is -5
15:27 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:4769
15:27 <K2> so that makes the odds rn2(5)
15:27 <qt> i got a pair of jumping boots as my second sacrifice gift
15:27 <K2> if x is 10
15:28 <amateurhour> remember rn1(10,-5) gives a number between -5,9
15:28 <K2> hah right
15:28 <K2> we cant use negs
15:29 <amateurhour> nothing stopping you here, it's just a lil weird
15:29 <K2> no negative numbers otherwise it'll yell at us
15:29 <qt> wait why does it do that
15:29 <K2> rn2(10) range is 0 to 9
15:29 <amateurhour> sorry (-5,4)
15:29 <K2> yeah
15:30 <amateurhour> nothing stopping you doing that, but I'd just rewrite that line entirely to avoid it being confusing af
15:30 <qt> okay that is what I thought. but yeah maybe it's a little odd
15:30 <qt> and tough to understand
15:30 <K2> i'm not alone
15:30 <K2> \o/
15:30 <amateurhour> future you will thank you
15:32 <K2> i am slowly grokking this
15:34 <K2> qt i think your termbin is correct
15:35 <K2> if you already have a gift, no change to odds
15:35 <K2> if you dont, make odds 100%
15:35 <K2> is u.ugifts explicitly first sac gift or just a gift in general
15:35 <mobileuser> \o/
15:36 <qt> it is incremented every time you get a gift
15:36 <K2> ah
15:36 <amateurhour> every time you get an _artifact_ gift isn't it?
15:36 <qt> oh yeah an artifact gift probably
15:36 <qt> that's worth checking
15:36 <K2> yeah
15:36 <mobileuser> moar big good
15:36 <amateurhour> huh, any gift it seems, WHACK
15:37 <amateurhour> I guess it's meant to reduce the number of gifts you get over time
15:37 <K2> yeah regular or artifact
15:37 <K2> BUT
15:37 <K2> hmm
15:37 <K2> need to test
15:37 <qt> k2 the termbin makes it more likely to get an item, not an artifact
15:37 <K2> yeah...
15:37 <K2> but first sac gift
15:38 <K2> hmm
15:38 <K2> what if you dont have a first sac gift
15:38 <qt> also a good point
15:40 <K2> so as a wiz
15:41 <K2> first gift was an elven dagger
15:41 <K2> using termin edit
15:41 <K2> termbin
15:42 <mobileuser> "You sting the black dragon." I hope only when disint resistant...
15:42 <qt> K2: I think the way I did it would just make it more likely to get an artifact if you haven't gotten any gifts before, not guaranteed
15:42 <K2> i think so
15:43 <K2> oooh
15:43 <qt> you could do 'if ((u.ugifts || !guaranteed_first_gift()) && rn2(10) >= (int) ((nchance * nchance) / 100)) {' to make it guaranteed but you'd have to write a function to test whether the player has a guaranteed first gift
15:43 <K2> i tested as exp level 1
15:43 <qt> unless there's a built in way to test that already
15:43 <K2> no wonder
15:45 <K2> hmm
15:52 <qt> k2 something like this will work I think... idk if it's the best way to do it or not though https://termbin.com/acks
15:52 <qt> this would guarantee your first gift is an artifact for roles that have a first artifact gift. it could be sort of a problem because it means you can't get normal items at a lower level... but I guess that's sort of a tradeoff?
15:53 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:63682
15:53 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:63683
15:53 <K2> wouldnt you get normal items afterwards? 2nd gift on?
15:54 <qt> yeah you would get normal items afterwards
15:54 <K2> and the odds of getting another artifact are still the same based on your exp level
15:54 <qt> yes
15:54 <K2> BUT with this, if you're supposed to get a first sac gift, you get it first go
15:55 <qt> yes or rather it will guarantee that you don't get a normal item until you've gotten an artifact
15:55 <K2> oh
15:55 <qt> it won't change the base likelihood of getting an artifact, just remove the possibility of getting a normal item instead
15:56 <amateurhour> alrighty so that's one thing unblocked for 0.7
15:56 <amateurhour> what's next on the list
15:56 <K2> so a wizard, they should get magicbane first because that's guaranteed first sac gift right?
15:56 <K2> amateurhour hah we aint done yet
15:56 <Umbire> Yes, they should
15:57 <K2> qt but what about a role that doesnt have a first sac gift, are they also going to get some artifact on first gift?
15:57 <qt> nope
15:57 <K2> ok
15:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dart on an altar, on T:3284
15:57 <qt> that's what the awaiting_guaranteed_gift function is for
15:57 <K2> just making sure
15:57 <qt> I guess actually you don't need to refer to u.ugifts if you use that
15:57 <K2> just cut out u.ugifts ||
15:57 <qt> yeah I think so
15:58 <amateurhour> push to production, blame qt for breakages, NEXT :D
15:58 <K2> lol amateurhour
15:58 <qt> haha
15:58 <rebatela> how come some roles have guaranteed gifts 
15:58 <K2> can you do this as a PR qt? i gotta step away for a bit
15:58 <rebatela> whole game is so damn arbitrary
15:58 <qt> sure
15:58 <K2> thanks. back in a bit
15:58 <amateurhour> more do in slashem rebatela, some even have _second_ gifts there
15:58 <amateurhour> monks have a sick first-sac gift there as well
15:59 <rebatela> sounds cool 
15:59 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3373
15:59 <amateurhour> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Gauntlets_of_Defense
16:00 <rebatela> yeah half damage is great
16:01 <amateurhour> in slashem dex majorly buffs your ac (especially as a monk without weapons)
16:01 <amateurhour> Tl;Dr it's epic
16:01 <amateurhour> :D
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16:04 <mobileuser> there's only 5 roles with a guaranteed first arti gift
16:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3675
16:05 <amateurhour> I wonder if they'll ever add any more
16:06 <amateurhour> dnethack adds loads but makes them unwishable
16:07 <amateurhour> well, a lot of them are wishable...
16:07 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #58: Guaranteed artifact gifts - https://git.io/JO2DY
16:08 <amateurhour> \o/
16:21 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JO2S9
16:21 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] entrez a7223b3 - Restore guaranteed first sacrifice gifts
16:21 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 aaab265 - Merge pull request #58 from entrez/guaranteed-artifact-gifts
16:22 <K2> more \o/ for less sad
16:22 <amateurhour> NEXT
16:22 * amateurhour hits desk bell repeatedly
16:23 * K2 puts earbuds back in and ignores front desk
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16:27 <mobileuser> correction: 6 roles have guaranteed first arti gifts. I forgot about convict.
16:29 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JO2HE
16:29 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 eb321c2 - Change CFLAGS -g to -g3 (linux builds).
16:30 <K2> infidel has one also
16:30 <K2> that knife thing i always misspell
16:30 <mobileuser> yes, I had counted that one
16:30 <amateurhour> secespita
16:30 <K2> ah
16:30 <mobileuser> :-)
16:30 <amateurhour> i think first sac gifts are neat
16:33 <K2> you're neat
16:33 <qt> hmm https://evilhack.itch.io/
16:33 <qt> k2 is this your side project
16:33 <qt> The fragile froc.zip
16:33 <K2> no but i wish it were
16:34 <K2> also, search twitter for #evilhack
16:34 <K2> there's... a lot
16:34 <amateurhour> awwwwww that's the cutest thing I've ever seen
16:35 <amateurhour> friendship ended with evilhack the nethack variant 
16:35 <amateurhour> now the fragile froc is my best friend
16:35 <qt> The game is about a laboratory frog who has lost his way in life and must find something to make her happy in the time she has left.
16:35 <K2> but... but...
16:36 <qt> note the frog changes sex in the middle of the sentence, someone get alex jones on the line
16:37 <aosdict> alex jones is about frog sexuality not sex
16:37 <K2> ugh... these dishes aint gonna do themselves
16:37 <K2> almost forgot
16:37 <K2> brb :)
16:37 <mobileuser> I've done mine \o/
16:37 <K2> yay
16:37 <mobileuser> DISHES
16:38 <amateurhour> YASI: artifact dishes that you can sometimes get from sinks
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17:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Cen Fem Neu), 18448 points, T:6026, killed by an owlbear
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17:39 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:64417
17:45 <K2> i somehow transitioned from dishes to grilling burgers
17:46 <Umbire> Speaking of grilling you'll be positively heated 
17:46 <Umbire> in a minute
17:47 <K2> ?
17:49 <mobileuser> but who will do the dishes
17:49 <K2> i already did them
17:49 <K2> i am that good
17:53 <hothraxxa> the dishwasher returns
17:55 <qt> lol
17:57 <aosdict> the lord of the burgers: return of the dishwasher
17:57 <mobileuser> \o/
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17:59 <K2> sweet
17:59 <K2> that is catchy
17:59 <K2> i like it
18:05 <Umbire> Same
18:07 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3237
18:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1663 points, T:3702, killed by a killer bee
18:44 <qt> k2 major bug that needs fixing
18:44 <qt> yeenoghu encyclopedia entry says gnolls "have been wiped off the face of the earth"
18:44 <qt> that's no longer true
18:44 <qt> please fix
18:45 <Umbire> lol
18:45 <Arahael> Umbire: that sounds serious!
18:46 <K2> OMFG
18:46 <K2> qt thank god you found that
18:46 <K2> :P
18:47 <qt> :)
18:48 <qt> is this new? if you look at a commit in github it will say what PR it came from?
18:48 <Umbire> I was actually considering mentioning it myself if qt hadn't brought it up
18:48 <qt> e.g. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a7223b385735e4dd865753369e04f54264529516
18:48 <Arahael> K2: my foray into rustification of "dodrop" did not find that error :(
18:48 <qt> under the description it says "master (#58)"
18:48 <qt> has that always been the case? sort of cool
18:49 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JOaUy
18:49 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 16746a9 - Tweak encyclopedia entry for Yeenoghu.
18:49 <qt> phew, thanks k2
18:49 <K2> \o/
18:50 <K2> good lookin' out
18:50 <K2> brb
18:50 <qt> now it's a sentence fragment but you can't win 'em all ;)
18:52 <K2> wut?
18:52 <K2> did grammar fail me?
18:53 <K2> i didnt add anything new, just took out a bit
18:53 <qt> "Yeenoghu, the demon lord of gnolls." is missing a verb, the verb was "still exists" but it got removed when you changed it
18:53 <aosdict> "Yeenoghu the demon lord of gnolls" has no verb, but it *is* a sentence one might find in an actual encyclopedia
18:53 <qt> yeah I don't think it's really bad
18:53 <aosdict> like under a caption of him
18:53 <qt> i was just joshin' you k2
18:53 <qt> you know me, always joshin'
18:53 * K2 looks up from the fetal position
18:54 <K2> wut?
18:54 <K2> :P
18:54 <K2> everyone here by now knows things like... things aren't my thing. just roll with it :P
19:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 5355 points, T:3804, killed by a watchman
19:23 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:913
19:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth falconry gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2370
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22:16 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JOa4o
22:16 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 295e480 - Covetous monsters will equip wearable items that they target.
22:46 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JOaEM
22:46 <Not-818c> [EvilHack] k21971 88235b7 - Allow Infidel quest leader to demand the quest artifact.