00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:26861 00:00 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:26988 01:18 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 01:23 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:27 figured it out 01:27 D - uncursed +0 barding (250 aum). 03:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:19 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2932 points, T:3380, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant spider 04:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 435 points, T:882, killed by a steel dagger 05:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1100 points, T:2232, killed by a winter wolf 05:20 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:25 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1305 points, T:1529, killed by a boulder 05:42 Damn it. 05:42 Another bad day> :) 06:05 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical pair of snow boots entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:27776 06:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1737 06:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2534 points, T:2343, killed by a wolf 06:30 bizarro - can't seem to find quest portal 06:30 traversed all the rooms - digging all over 06:31 eraserhead97: I once had a portal in the vault, if I recall correctly. 06:33 that's crazy - I've only seen portals to Ft. Ludios in the vault - ok - gotta trek back to stash and burn a confused pot of objdet 06:33 confused ?ofgolddet I mean 06:33 Which server are you on? 06:33 is 06:33 Ah, us. 06:33 us 06:34 if u see any obvious spot I should check on the map, lemme know 06:35 eraserhead97: For a vault? Heaps of spots, but for teh portal, I assume you've already absolutely traversed every single square? 06:36 ya - I've traversed all the known rooms 06:36 What's dlvl 13? 06:37 nothing special methinks 06:38 there was a pit from dlvl 12 to 13 - that's it 06:38 Curious. So this is for the quest, nothing more. Never heard of that one being in a vault. 06:38 I've had the ice queen in a vault, I think. 06:40 Wonder if magic detection works on portals? (I suspect not) 06:40 I haven't discovered ?ofgolddet yet - so gotta do a sanity check - traverse all know room squares again 06:41 What's the ^? (Colours are different) 06:42 THERE IT IS! 06:42 found it 8^P 06:42 damn 06:42 Last square :D 06:42 must've been all the friendly mobs that threw me off - that with teleportitis must've messed me up 06:42 last square indeed 06:48 You did it already? 06:51 lol - not >that< fast! just wanted to check some spellbooks - heading back down now 06:54 this run has been super-dry for me - didn't even have a sack until 22k turns - one nice item was a +5 cornuthaum of drain resistance from sac 06:55 hmm... ...kicking a potion off a rust trap will destroy? 06:56 nm - just grabbed it 06:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6281 points, T:3562, killed by a tengu 06:58 LoL - just as I complain - a WoW drop - no ideas of charges yet, though 07:00 Loads of loot in teh wiz quest, yeah. :) 07:00 ya - no BoH yet so I'm already encumbered 07:02 you're doing way better than I always do. :) Still, encumbered is super bad. 07:02 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:03 well, just persistence this round - all the drops came from npcs + sacs between 22-30k 07:03 I have speed boots so that mitigates it somewhat - I'll drop bag on lvl above before fighting Dark One 07:04 Sounds good. :) 07:04 I've not seen any arti's this game so might try for Orb of Weight 07:05 Your AC is nice, at least. 07:05 ya - should be enuf for me to melee the Dark One 07:06 I did die to Kaen in a run yesterday - so that makes me a bit nervous, but Kaen and Dark One are probably at the opposite ends of the scale in terms of difficulty 07:06 I've never died to Kaen. 07:07 It's a somewhat odd situation. :) 07:07 DAMN - you're good - lol 07:07 No, I'm hopeless. 07:07 Kaen is a hard-ass 07:07 Yeah, it's weird. 07:07 It's a running gag, actually, me with my plentiful death wands. 07:08 But even when I don't have death, it's just too easy - but usually I poly him instead. 07:08 Even did it without a fort once. 07:08 ah - poly is smart! 07:09 Yep, however the game considers you as never killing the quest nemisis when you do that. 07:10 interesting - but that has no effect on the end-game, right? 07:11 just reading - there is no orb of weight in evilhack 07:11 just want him for the l00t 07:11 ooooooh! 07:11 replaced by the horn Gjallar 07:11 @mobileuser - tyvm - that would've wasted me a wish 07:11 mp 07:11 np 07:11 heh 07:11 that's evil 07:12 eraserhead97: No effect, no. 07:12 was hobbit wizard a random choice? 07:13 ya - again! LoL - I had 3 other random classes between this one and that successful run (those 3 failed - most promising was a death at Kaen - I think I depended on ?ofSM when I shouldn't have - also fell into a pit - was a sloppy YASD as I had enough equipment) 07:14 Hmm. Bones minetown. I suspect mine. 07:14 I've only been playing random evils 07:14 and yet again doing well with hobbit wizard :-) 07:15 well, it got better after 22k - before that, looked like a failed run - now, looks promising 07:15 I still don't have MB yet, tho 07:15 or reflection 07:15 or acid or disease resist 07:15 crowned already? 07:15 nope 07:16 at least if you get crowned you get almost all resistances 07:16 I've never figured out the correct strat to crown - do you do it independently of sacfest or can you do it concurrently? 07:16 crowning sounds like a good idea to grab resists 07:16 just get max luck, then pray on the altar 07:17 ic - so gotta do it independently (mostly) from sacfest 07:17 I usually combine it with altar camping 07:17 ok - lemme try it out - TY! 07:17 I mean, the saccing increases luck, and it could take more than 1 prayer 07:18 so when ic the 4-leaf clover, just pray on the altar, right? 07:18 when you DON'T see that anymore :-) 07:18 doh 07:18 mobileuser: When you *don't* see it any more!? 07:18 that's why I've never crowned - LoL 07:18 high level sac, no clover then you have max luck 07:19 DAMN 07:19 easier of course if you have a co-aligned unicorn in eg sokoban 07:19 just chuck lots of gems 07:20 ic 07:20 maybe I'll noob it and burn some enlightenment 8^P 07:20 unfortunately that doesn't tell you if you have max luck yet 07:21 oh... ...I thought it did 8^P 07:21 just "extremely lucky" 07:21 ic 07:21 but perhaps that is enough for crowning... 07:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2255 07:22 so what qualifies as a high level sac? is there a formula between monster difficulty and my Xp lvl? I might be too high to be able to generate a high lvl sac on Dlvl:7. 07:26 don't worry, just observe which monster corpses give you a clover 07:26 rothes always leave a corpse and increase your luck when sacrificed if it's not yet maxed 07:26 also giant beetle 07:26 aye 07:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2622 07:33 eraserhead97 you do have a blessed luckstone, right? 07:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:33 eraserhead97 doesn't, no. It's uncursed. 07:34 ah. bless asap! 07:34 oh - ok - didn't know that - I usually just leave it uncursed - doing it now 07:34 The unicorn horn should take priority, imho. 07:34 eraserhead97: Also bless the unicorn horn. :) 07:35 ok - I'll do that next time I return to stash - gonna kill TDO first 07:35 oo holy water 07:37 eraserhead97: You've got an altar on this level anyway, haven't you? 07:37 that's true 07:40 with a blessed luckstone you luck will decrease much more slowly 07:40 *your luck 07:40 ic 07:40 mobileuser: It still decreases? 07:41 yes (in contrast to vanilla) 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:31212 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31213 07:41 oh already there 07:41 :-) 07:42 ya - The Squishy One is down 07:42 with all the xorns and bats it should be pretty easy to get max luck there 07:43 was just reading the wiki on crowning - seems like the real benefit is the FoD spellbook! 07:44 Bah. 07:44 You can't easily reliably cast that anyway. 07:45 i think k2 is buffing the dark one is he not? 07:45 actually in my last (successful run), I was able to save the WoD charges and just FoD Rodney all the way up (cranked that toon to 30 tho) 07:46 hothraxxa I think I heard that for the next version (from u, though, hehe) 07:46 i always level wizards up to 30 07:46 seems to make sense for MM scaling 07:46 the rest i try to keep below 20 07:46 ic 07:46 exactly why i do it 07:47 for non-wizs, >20 benefits harder spawns more than our toon? 07:48 the NPC's get more difficult 07:48 ic 07:48 yeah npc are hard enough 07:48 a wizard can just blast them with fireball etc. 07:49 yeah - I noticed many appear to be "unhittable" at AC:-31 (if something is off on my toon) 07:49 I mean the uber npcs 07:49 acid blast is great if you can get it 07:50 ah - I remember - the last time I tried to sacfest at Quest altar, all I got were vampire bats 07:50 also at expert you get area of effect 07:50 hothraxxa I think I might try writing acid blast this round - just out of curiousity 07:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4083 07:51 iirc attack is the only spell class that gives siginificant benefit when raised to expert 07:52 I found acid blast disappointing last time I tried it 07:52 less damage than I was expecting 07:53 @mobileuser I remember u commenting that fireball > acid_blast 07:53 I'm wondering how to destroy a rope golem *fast*, in melee range. 07:53 yes, and fireball is a lower level spell 07:53 (It's right next to the downstairs, so when I get down, it's right there) 07:53 the thing about acid blast is that almost nothing has acid resistance 07:53 Fireball is *amazing*, especially in the ice queen's level. 07:53 that's what's so great about it 07:54 yeah that's why acid blast is still useful to have in reserve 07:54 ok - I just sacrificed an ochre jelly and got "cloud of smoke" - I can try for crown? 07:54 yes 07:55 good luck 07:55 oh wait you have that already 07:55 lol 07:55 doh - I got "gift of Stealth" - LoL 07:55 yeah it may take a few tries... 07:56 now you have to appease first 07:56 MOAR saccing 07:56 got it - lemme clean up loot first and then I'll sac some more (also gotta bless unihorn) 08:04 I need to keep sac'ing until I get "cloud of smoke" but no "You have a hopeful feeling", right? 08:04 yes 08:06 oh, fun - npc steels my Bell of Opening - charges are gonna be spent 08:07 what's around that needs opening? 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:31712 08:07 doh 08:08 sac the npc, get MB - gotta luv TC for moving heavy corpses 08:08 now go beat the shit out of that npc 08:08 oh. you already did 08:08 npc corpse gave me the MB - LoL 08:09 \o/ 08:09 I swear, npc spawns are critical to the balance of evil (need them for the l00t) 08:09 Still is weird seeing magicbane as a staff. 08:10 i have mixed feelings every time i see an npc 08:10 well, it all depends on WHEN u c one, hehehe 08:10 esp as the game progresses. they are hard to kill and they often wear gdsm or bdsm 08:11 they'll have reflection and lifesaving 08:11 and these days no boh 08:11 sometimes boh 08:11 yeah - around mid-game is when npc's are the best (for l00t) - they can be a PITA if part of summon nasties 08:12 i've had exactly one boh from an npc outside of gehennom 08:12 Hmm. Applying a drum of earthquake inside of an energy vortex doesn't do much at all. 08:12 even in gehennom the npc boh is now pretty rare but i don't care because i'll have THE bag 08:13 Not sure what I should do to get out, I've got no teleport. 08:13 knock, wand of opening 08:13 @Arahael do you have =oShock Resistance? 08:13 can't remember if dig works, don't think so 08:13 No, no, and no. :/ 08:13 @hothraxxa I have a feeling for this run, I'll have to get my BoH from the ice queen 08:14 that's been where i get my boh in most games 08:14 bloody tedious until then but it teaches you what you really need to carry 08:14 I could try polymorphing myself, but ti's very risky as I don't have polycontrol, and will probably tear most of my armour. 08:14 most of us carry way too much shit 08:15 I certainly fit into that categorization 08:15 * Arahael is also a packrat. 08:15 me too still 08:15 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:15 Rather surprised a drum of *earthquake* doesn't work inside a vortex. 08:15 i'm a lot better but still wind up with crap in my bag 08:15 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 08:16 mindless monsters can't be sacred in evilhack 08:16 er 08:16 scared 08:16 @Arahael can u poly the mob? 08:16 Poly the vortex, whilst inside it? 08:16 that likely works 08:17 I dunno how good his MR is, tho 08:17 i mean it will work but you might not like the new monster 08:17 hehehe 08:17 Woah. It's now a Kop Lieutinant. That's easy. 08:17 NICE 08:17 \o/ 08:17 better than bustin' out of your own armor 08:18 poly self won't get you out unless you become something too big to be engulfed 08:18 which will of course destroy your armour 08:18 good point 08:18 I wonder if a =oslow digestion would work? prolly not in this case... 08:19 as you're not really being digested 08:19 no it's not a digester 08:19 yeah - too bad 08:19 I always get confused which wands work with which elementals, when engulfed 08:20 install local copy of evilhack, test 08:20 water elementals are worst 08:20 "Your sacrifice is consumed in a cloud of smoke! You have a feeling of reconciliation." ok to pray? 08:20 yes 08:21 hothraxxa great idea for testing - ty 08:21 doh - got the "play the tune for castle" hint - more sacs 08:24 Hmm. A lava gremlin. 08:25 kill it! 08:25 No way! :D 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:31862 08:26 wooohoo 08:26 I've never crowned b4 - thx for all the hints, guys! 08:26 if you play evil then you want to be crowned asap 08:26 partial resistances suck soooo much 08:27 ic - because partial resistances take too long? 08:27 yup - they do 08:27 seems like dragonbane's almost a must, too (for the acid resistance) 08:27 also see invisible is really valuable 08:27 eraserhead97: Not only for the acid resistance, dragonbane is *amazing*. 08:28 if only god would give me dragonbane 08:28 eraserhead97: Don't tell Kaytwo that it's too OP. 08:28 after crowning, can I still sac for gifts or is it harder now? 08:28 harder 08:28 ic 08:28 well 08:28 prayer timeouts are way longer, too. 08:28 it takes longer to reconcile 08:29 yes but usually i have no need to pray by then 08:29 rare occasion when i get really beat up 08:29 Prayer's still useful, eg, for holy water. 08:30 meh. i hardly ever pray for holy water after the early game 08:30 watch as k2 channels amy and eliminates dipping stacks for holy water 08:34 I only recently learned about the ?oRemoveCurse trick for holy water 08:34 I guess it's useful for the atheist conduct 08:37 it's most useful if you haven't found unholy water 08:37 although i generally fountain dip for that 08:38 You can fountain dip for holy water? 08:38 no unholy water 08:40 thinking about writing identify, magic mapping, fireball, acid blast... 08:40 Fascinating. 08:41 where will you get the magic markers? 08:41 got one from soko 08:41 also have a WoW (dunno charges on it, tho) 08:41 there is only one other in the game aside from wishes 08:42 the castle wand? 08:42 WoW on the ground in home Quest lvl - haven't even reached Medusa yet 08:42 Oh, STUPID. 08:42 0:71 on MM 08:42 ok that one is 1:x so just bless it and use it until it runs out 08:42 ic 08:42 bless for the wrest 08:42 no charging 08:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8301 points, T:6875, killed by a magic missile 08:43 My own frigging magic missile. 08:43 no wishing for charging is a huge mistake unless you really need it 08:43 oh, I didn't know about the bless for wrest! chances higher? 08:43 yes 08:43 yeah - have couple charging scrolls in stash 08:44 I meant, no charging that WoW on the ground, hehe 08:44 eraserhead97: Where's your stash, btw? Moved it to soko yet? 08:44 oh. no you can't charge it 08:44 @Arahael no - on lvl 10 by the altar - don't need to move it to soko, methinks - levelport + branchport sufficient 08:44 hothraxxa your words make me sad 08:45 i had a surprise for you too but forget it now 08:45 awwww 08:45 sorry 08:45 eraserhead97: Nice. 08:45 * K2 stomps off in a teenage hissy fit 08:46 heh 08:46 @arahael oops - actually on the Soko < lvl already (Dlvl:7) but actually doesn't make much of a difference - I've played with stash on Dlvl:1 b4 - more important that it's near an altar 08:46 You fit the barding on Farrah. 08:47 eraserhead97: Your quest could be a stash. 08:49 what I like to do is, two chests near an altar (I don't care where) - one for real loot and one for junk 08:49 need the junk chest - otherwise, too much clutter on-screen can result in YASD 08:50 :) G'night! 08:50 gn 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 87229 points, T:27839, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 08:51 gnite Arahael 08:52 poor dbanethacker - I had one run earlier with 2 bones files from him 08:54 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 08:54 besides apron, dragonbane, any other counters for acid blast? I need to visit the ice queen for BoH. 08:56 stupid me, I can try to wish for dragonbane (with npc) - I had tunnelvision for sac-festing for it 08:57 yellow dragon scale mail also protects against acid 09:05 i would not wish for dragonbane since there are already at least two artifacts in the game 09:06 last time i did that dragonbane slipped through my fingers 09:08 good point - the Eye and MB are the 2 arti's on my run - I'll look for YDSM - thx! 09:09 I still have to be a bit careful - don't have reflection yet - got the spell but failure rate is high 09:09 100%, in fact 8^P 09:12 if you use the reflection spell make sure you have a msgtype alert for when it starts to expire 09:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Inf Orc Mal Una), 630 points, T:960, killed by a bone crossbow bolt 09:13 that's smart - do you happen to know the appropriate alert string? 09:13 yeah see my rc 09:13 your steal alert saved me earlier - when the npc stole the bell 09:13 heh. always a pleasure 09:17 hothraxxa found it - gonna steal all your alerts - danke! 09:18 help yourself 09:21 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:21 wow - that MSGTYPE=stop "Nothing happens." for empty wands is also >extremely< useful - hate bumping into a floating eye because my wand's empty 09:21 yeah it can be annoying though 09:22 i find the annoyance worth it 09:22 pita if you're wresting 09:22 if it's too bad, I can always turn it off (or I'll just turn it off during wresting - only takes a sec) 09:23 i just put up with it 09:25 ah - found your underline entry for (being worn) - lots of nice gems in this file 09:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:30 that annoyance might go away when you only get one shot to wrest 09:31 hehehe - I never wrest under duress ^^ 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:53589 09:33 that was too close for comfort 09:33 had me down to 10hp 09:33 damn 09:34 were u melee'ing him 09:34 yes 09:34 hits hard 09:34 well he kept missing and i got cocky. suddenly he got in three bites and i was at 10hp 09:35 were u burdened during fighting? 09:35 yes 09:35 ah... 09:35 i'm burdened a lot. mostly it's not a problem 09:35 but your AC was -34 09:35 aye 09:36 brutal 09:36 I think I just MM'ed him last time so I didn't feel his bite-bite-bite 09:37 the tough part is playing melee toons like monk - feel obligated to run up to him and hit 09:37 if only these were dragonhide 09:37 yeah - too bad 09:38 i will probably wish for dragonhide because i still want to cast 09:38 this is so weird 09:38 barding works 09:38 works great 09:38 also cloak of mr since i want to wear flying 09:39 how many wishes left? 09:39 what does K2? resizing armours to fit pets? 09:39 but its showing up like this - B - uncursed barding (0:0) (250 aum) 09:39 castle wand is 0:1 09:39 so 4 + wrest 09:39 amateurhour no i am taking a completely different approach vs dnh 09:40 yes. i need one for carl but i might fall back on the lamp for that 09:40 carl? 09:40 what does 'barding' mean in evilhack? 09:40 depends on my poly success. i need to find genocide3 09:40 carl the woodchuck, my ascension pal 09:41 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barding 09:41 alhoon, mage vampire mage, + ??? 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:53606 09:41 oh as in you're just adding the one piece of armour? 09:41 right 09:42 think of it as a saddle - its another 'tool' you can apply to your steed 09:42 only horses or any ridable pet? 09:42 it gives AC, everything 09:42 but the game thinks its something you charge like a wand hah 09:43 i was able to have it show as +0 barding but then the game thought it was a weptool 09:43 (still gave AC to the steed you put it on though) 09:43 ah tricky 09:43 in (0:0) format, if i wish for +3 barding, it shows as 0:3 and gives an extra 3 AC 09:43 hahah 09:43 so it 'works' 09:43 but not correctly 09:44 i am a bit stuck atm 09:44 that silly overloaded spe field 09:44 so you can increase AC by charging it? 09:44