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Poison instadeath is annoying. 01:36 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 01:37 Hmm, I had a try at compiling evilhack on macos, I opted to compile the "linux" version, with a hacked up set of makefiles, which should be simpler, imho, than messing with xcode project files. 01:38 However, I still have three missing symbols and I'm not sure where they're supposed to be from: _more, _tty_procs, and _win_tty_init 01:48 Ok, well, that turned out to be obvious - it's strictly related to the window system, and the libraries I have aren't compatible. 01:54 Woo! Built. Doesn't run, though, still a bunch of hard-coded dirs and perhaps my editing of the makefiles was /too/ hacky. For instance, despite setting PREFIX, it's still referring to: /usr/games/lib/evilhackdir: No such file or directory 01:56 Seems various settings have to be set multiple times. 02:01 Ok, it builds, it runs, and immediately exits. 02:13 This seems to be the last thing evilhack does for me: -> 214 init_nhwindows(&argc, argv); /* now we can set up window system */ (From the debugger, so that's line 214 in unixmain.c) 02:21 will dig a bit more later :) 02:25 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:54 Arahael: why are you building the linux version on macos, when there is a macos version? 05:55 aosdict: Because I don't trust the macos version to build. :) I seem to remember it doesn't build, infact. 05:57 reading the backscroll, fractured glass was already a thing? 05:57 K2 has got it building with github actions 05:57 so it does build 05:58 aosdict: He must be spending good money on a macos host for that, then. 05:58 *sigh*, I hate poison instadeaths. :( 05:58 > You fall into a pit! You land on a set of sharp iron spikes! The spikes were poisoned! The poison was deadly... Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y) 05:58 github is (currently at least) offering this stuff for free 05:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1954 points, T:2764, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 05:59 aosdict: Woah, they are? 05:59 aosdict: Are you *sure* they're macos? 06:00 it's not like they're just giving you a mac host to do whatever you want on, all you can do is run scripted jobs, but yes, it is specifically mac. I've got the same build working with xnethack. 06:01 aosdict: Very Very Nice. 06:02 Ok, trying xcode again... 06:05 Doesn't appear to build when I bring it up naively. :( 06:05 /Users/arahael/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData/NetHack-fsjwkvenaaeabuevgbmiehsjkvqd/Build/Intermediates.noindex/NetHack.build/Debug/makedefs.build/Script-319CBA3821A3458100150830.sh: line 4: 48756 Killed: 9 ${NH_UTIL_DIR}/makedefs -d 06:07 I also notice that there's a bunch of files that seem to be missing in the xcodeproj file - they're "red" in the list. 06:11 aosdict: Shame, the macos builds are *very * expensive for github actions, but looks like they offer 2000 "minutes" for free at the moment, so good for hobby devs, at least. 06:12 Eg, this: 60*24*0.08*30 -> $3456.0 per month(!) 06:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 06:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a mind flayer, on T:3386 06:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1704 points, T:2191, killed by a giant mimic 06:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:5605 07:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:6107 07:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:7893 07:24 !lastgame lacca 07:24 Arahael: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1617878641.evil.html 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:23643 07:44 phew 07:47 Did you have see invis? 07:56 i still have to clear that level 07:56 oh that's right i'm on it NOW and nymph has stolen my trobe 07:56 robe 07:57 i'm going to die 07:58 magic missile fails for me at 51% w/no robe. I despise this level, aphrodite, and everyone who looks like aphrodite 08:00 rebatela: Ah, you're a monk? 08:01 rebatela: I actually find it easy as a monk, but you do need to do it nude, and as Grand Master in martial arts. 08:03 arahael, I got crowned so I have see invis 08:04 also warning because I killed the oracle 08:04 had a fire horn and a wand of cold and even used a scroll of earth 08:05 Ooh, nice. 08:05 Doesn't that destroy the potions, though? 08:05 well I only used that on Aphrodite 08:05 who cares :-) 08:05 Aphrodite must be killed 08:06 I can take care of the nymphs with daggers 08:09 :) 08:09 With Grand Master in martial arts, I can sometimes one-hit the nymphs. If not, well, the second hit usually kills them. 08:10 Then I collect the obj-detects, keep one aside, dip the rest into water, and then go onto soko. 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:19592 08:20 Hmm, frustrating. Found my bones level, but I can't find the bones pile. :/ 08:29 were you naked? ;-) 08:30 Haha. :) Not this time. :) 08:49 aosdict - I havent set up github actions to do a mac build yet 08:49 right now its just linux and windows 08:49 but you can use linux hints to build on a mac 08:50 had late dinner last night, laid down on the couch and *crashed* hah 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:15654 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:21203 08:54 aw shit, i just realized the archeologist quest artifact doesn't provide mr any more :((( 08:55 hothraxxa: That's OK, find any of my bones level. They'll have MR. :( :( :( 08:55 probably won't happen. i've reached the castle and no bones of any kind 08:56 also no half spell damage. why k2 why? 08:56 i guess archeologists were op once they got the orb 08:56 because its now an offensive weapon that does wicked damage and you can throw it like mjollnir 08:57 leaving MR on something like that would be OP 08:57 that will really help against touch of death 08:58 xiuhcoatl is arguably one of the best ranged weapons in the game 08:59 What did you pick up in soko? 08:59 Mines sometimes has MR. 08:59 At least, minetown. 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:19125 09:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1966 points, T:2710, killed by a giant mimic 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical conical hat entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:16690 09:09 Not doing well with giant mimics today. 09:14 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JOJxE 09:14 [EvilHack] k21971 61e49a2 - Correct oversight with various demons not being able to fly. 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a tattered cape entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:20717 09:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20803 09:16 arahael: are you saying i should take off all my stuff and drop everything and just fight with martial arts? 09:17 what if someone has a death wand or some shit. i really don't like this level. And i really want my robe back 09:17 I'm used to playing giants... nymph meet my friend, boulder 09:17 rebatela: As a monk on the aphrodite level? Yeah, I'd do that - death wands are rare, at least, oh, and yeah, I definitely leave the wands and everything a nymph might use upstairs. 09:18 i made sure i got free action first because i splatted on this level last time from a chest trap 09:18 Ah, yeah, don't open those until all the nymphs are dealt with, imho. Unless you like, have stealth or something, and can just stuff everything into a chest and then lock it. 09:18 "death wands are rare" who are you and what did you do with the real arahael 09:18 trap paralayzed me and they robbed me completely, stripped. I had the balrog figurine and they applied that and the balrog zapped me with me own wand of death 09:19 amateurhour: They're rare for everyone else, dude. :) 09:19 yeah death wands are rare when you are LOOKING for them, not when you don't have reflection. Monsters tend to have them then... 09:19 rebatela: Right, leave all that shit somewhere they can't get to! 09:20 i have mr and reflection. i just want my fucking robe back 09:20 triple minetown bones and a 1:1 WoW in soko 09:21 i shouldn't screw this up, but it's been a weird game 09:21 Woo, nice. 09:21 wands are so rare in evil. i love finding them 09:21 yeah you were involved in the bones situation 09:21 and myself 09:21 and debanethacker 09:21 i got smothered by ghosts in the general store 09:22 and there was a guard in there 09:22 and i got yelled at for picking the door to get out 09:22 >> triple bones 09:22 I remember that one, I actually survived that bones. 09:22 Then died on the way back up. 09:22 but my gloves weren't blessed so i couldn't hit your ghost 09:22 i was trapped 09:23 I died because I angered a guard whilst opening a door... Which turned out to have been trapped. 09:23 oh but this is that game actually ! 09:23 doors get trapped when a guard sees you picking it right? that'd be a fun minetown bones to leave 09:23 amateurhour: Funny you mention that... 09:23 just go round trapping every door in minetown 09:23 then commit sudoku to a grid bug or something 09:23 so i got all the scrolls and potions from the 3 heros? And i took a dip in the drink in the mines!! blanked everything! SUCKED 09:23 hadn't even id'd shit 09:23 rebatela: I always do that. :( 09:23 but luckily i also got spellbook of id and poly right off the bat 09:24 Holding down ctrl doesn't help either. :( 09:24 but i blanked like 30 scrolls 09:24 sucked 09:24 Ouch. 09:24 i don't like the water 09:24 i still fall in it 09:24 i guess that's why it's there... 09:24 (evil) 09:25 Yeah, I think it's way too easy to fall into water. 09:25 Especially if you think "Oh, that's a friendly monster, lets just step there...", and it turns out they were on water. 09:25 I'm so bad at finding stairs (laugh k2) 09:25 eventually i will fall in the water before i find them sometimes 09:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 445 points, T:615, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:26 drinking and nethack don't mix (or DO they?) 09:26 they dont 09:26 but its hella fun 09:26 lol 09:26 that was so ridiculous when i coulnd't find the stairs 09:27 you should have staged an intervention 09:27 Can confirm, I've got an open bottle of Brown Borthers Australian Tawny here. 09:27 this < was in the dead center of the damn level 09:27 in the black area not searched and should have been blatantly obvious 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a dark green spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:21843 09:28 how do i get my robe back? can I just genocide n? 09:28 does that solve the aphrodite level? 09:28 rebatela: I saw that. 09:29 i don't know genocide, but if i did... 09:29 rebatela: Just leave anything dangerious behind, then go to the level and do your Grand Master Wacking. 09:29 oh man... like go up the stairs and drop everything? be completely naked and then just come down and kill all the nymphs right? 09:30 so i take the ring of phul off? 09:30 If you like take Most things with you... Just leave anything that would be dangerious if a nymph takes it. 09:30 i don't know if i agree with this advice 09:31 i'm gonna try it 09:31 i wish i could cast mm 0% without the robe 09:31 Yeah, mind you, you know I do have a somewhat risky playing style. 09:31 or throw boulders... 09:31 oh i don't care if i die 09:31 "This water gives you bad breath!" wtf... 09:31 yeah isn't that u get cursed? 09:31 oh no. it's a different message. there's one bad one 09:31 CONTAMINATED! 09:32 fountain effect, wiki says monsters will now flee from me :-) 09:32 Nice. 09:32 ahh that's right 09:32 i'm a big fountain DIPPER. not quaffer 09:32 those early fountains give up a lot of wishes 09:33 yeah, I dipped all my potions 09:33 the odds get worse as you go deeper 09:33 I thought why not try a quaff 09:33 sometimes it will boost stats like blessed gain ability i think? 09:34 or just a regular pto 09:34 pot 09:34 but it's silly to not dip the first 20 levels of foutains 09:34 but you are right, The water is contaminated! is not a nice outcome 09:34 agreed 09:34 gotta find MOAR potions 09:34 Yeah? What do you dip into them? 09:35 fountain 09:35 potions or scrolls to blank/dilute 09:35 oh 09:35 heh 09:35 Ah, yeah, I dip loads of potions. 09:35 But... I rarely ever get a wish from a fountain./ 09:35 read the wiki about it... you only get a chance of a demon from DL 1-20 i think? or at least it's impossible to get a wish after DL20 09:35 it's rare but it happens 09:35 but the odds of the demon giving you a wish are much higher at the top of the dungeon 09:36 so the early levels you should definitely dip them out once you can handle hostile water demons/nymphs because you do get wishes 09:36 i get fountain wishes all the time 09:36 Interesting. 09:37 at least dip all the fountains up to the oracle out. the odds are pretty decent. and Every time the fountain has a chance of disappearing. So every time it doesn't disappear? You get another shot and the same odds 09:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an elven dagger), on T:715 09:37 sometimes you sit at the same fountain for a while and it doesn't dissappear and it's like DL3 so the odds are good and you get wish 09:38 that said, I've never "fountain quaffed" like speed run tried to get a fountain wish. What i'm talkinga bout is totally different 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23946 09:39 I'll have to dip them from now on. :) 09:40 oh yeah so that game i'm playing, i blanked everything by falling in the water. But it didin't even matter because i couldn't have price id'd it anyway because triple bones in minetown 09:40 that general store owner is LONG gone 09:40 i don't know who killed him 09:40 maybe i did 09:40 I almost never bother with price id 09:41 so i had to throw rings scrolls etc into the food store until i could id spellbook of id 09:41 what? 09:41 how do you know which rings are which? 09:41 i don't care about 100 scrolls.. the monsters will id them 09:41 eg magic detection 09:41 ahh 09:41 yeah 09:41 we play so differently 09:41 heh 09:42 you don't cast spells. i don't waste scrolls. neither one is wrong/right 09:42 i love being able to cast id tho 09:42 I never bother with price id either. 09:42 uhm 09:42 which variant gets rid of it ? xnh right? 09:42 I do cast spells 09:42 no you don't 09:42 never 09:42 depends on the role 09:42 i'm just messing with ya 09:42 ok lol 09:43 but my last monk didn't cast spells 09:43 so there is a grain of truth ;-) 09:43 the thing is everytime you read one of those scrolls, to me it's a piece of paper that could have been blessed in a stack and i cast polypile at it and it barely shudders because it's blessed and i get whatver scrolls i want 09:44 so that saves markers charges/wishes 09:44 i've never read a scroll of magic detection 09:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had an apron entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:23941 09:47 i really should play wizards. but the monk early game is fun with the martial arts and only gets better in evil. Giant monk is super fun imo. Really well balanced. It's hard, but worth it because it's fun 09:49 Monk is indeed really good. I'm just generally flailing about being in illithid - super hard, but very fun. 09:49 well, they fucked up the role in vanilla 09:49 Ah, this minetown is definitely a bones level. 09:50 k2 made it better in evil 09:50 but the quest sucks for ex. 09:50 I've *never* had any difficultyw ith teh quest. 09:50 there's no LOOT in the quest 09:50 Indeed not, come to think of it 09:50 No useful loot. 09:50 which is funny because it's a copy of the priest quest 09:50 which has TONS of loot 09:51 i've been told that slashem is the way to go for the true monk experience 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) murdered Lucy, her faithful little dog, on T:1350 09:52 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 09:52 What's that like compared to... *shudder*... slex? 09:52 I tried that once... 09:52 Amy was nice enough to give me helpful advice, too... 09:52 apples to oranges 09:54 Oh, crap. I'm TermIll now. Stupid zombie, and the god was unhappy a long time ago. 09:54 the thing i think that happened was nethack development stopped or wahtever there was just nothing for a long time so the slashem development must have stopped with 3.43. It's kind of a shame maybe if there hadn't been so much time it would have kept up 09:54 Yep, the god is *definitely* unhappy. 09:55 Couldn't slashem have picked it up? 09:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 924 points, T:1381, zombified by a human zombie 09:58 yeah i think the people who were developing it just lost interest? I dunno. There are some articles out there. I read something about it not all that long ago. I think they gave Amy their blessing to do what she's doing 09:58 Fair enough. 09:58 Why would she have needed their blessing, though? ;) 09:59 heh true. i've tried playing slex. And i don't rule it out for the future 09:59 she doesn't need it, but slex IS the "official continuation" of slashem 09:59 amateurhour is the trooper. he actually plays 09:59 aosdict: Ah, neat. 10:00 I wonder how long it will take amy to pivot from "3.7 is not the real vanilla" to "slex is the real vanilla" :P 10:00 Perhaps I didn't give slex a fair go when I played as a fairly ugly sex worker. 10:00 (Or whatever the heck it had me as) 10:01 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:01 i appreciate the passion and the time and just HOW MANY FUCKING MONSTERS THERE ARE 10:02 In the case of the game I played, that was literally true. 10:02 but i haven't played the way others have 10:02 They definitely were F'ing. 10:02 no i mean like species 10:02 there are like 60,000 monsters or something 10:02 unique 10:02 * Arahael knows what rebatela meant. 10:02 I'm just not... Over... That game I played! :D 10:04 i know what i need to do 10:04 go back to my stash 10:04 i have spare robe 10:04 from the triple bones 10:04 and come back to aphrodite and magic missile them and get my original robe back 10:04 What's so special about the original robe? ;) 10:05 i think it was enchanted and not burnt 10:06 b) a cursed burnt robe 10:06 w00t 10:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una), 114892 points, T:25120, killed by an arrow, while sleeping 10:06 bleh 10:06 EVEN WITH PARTIAL SLEEP RESISTANCE 10:06 never woke up 10:07 mobileuser: The instadeaths are very annoying in the early game. :( 10:07 evil evil ame 10:07 *game 10:07 this was not early game 10:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 813 points, T:1161, killed by a giant spider 10:07 if only 10:07 mobileuser: Even more annoying, then! 10:08 extremely 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:22468 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical opera cloak entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:17059 10:09 !lastgame mobileuser 10:09 mobileuser: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1617789008.evil.html 10:10 You were 54% sleep resistant. 10:10 fucking hell 10:10 didn't really help 10:10 that would have cut the sleep timer in half 10:10 but yeah you dead 10:11 most of those arrows missed, too 10:11 yeah AC -22 10:11 I was doing very well 10:13 it's such bullshit. sometimes a gnome with a crossbow can take off like 80hp even if you're bolt resistant 10:13 every step you take they get like 5 multishots 10:14 Tha'ts often how I die. 10:14 these gnomes have been studying the crossbow for many years 10:14 That, or poison. 10:14 for some reason I thought crowning gave sleep resist 10:14 80hp is an exaggeration 10:14 slight ;) 10:14 wait it does give sleep resistance 10:14 and there's no such thing as 'bolt resistance' 10:14 lol 10:14 how come you were only 54% sleep resistant yet had crowned and become a demon? 10:14 ;) 10:15 mobileuser: ^ 10:15 infidel crowning doesnt give all the reistances other roles crowning gives 10:15 because they are a demon and get extra things the other roles wouldnt 10:15 yeah that is the drawback of infidel 10:15 oh, I guess demons aren't sleep resistant 10:16 but as K2 says you get other nice things 10:16 like a bad-ass tail 10:16 and wings 10:16 like death res and flying 10:16 and they accessorize well 10:16 being like half energy resistant doesn't help either 10:16 * Arahael mimics K2: "And they accessorize well"! :) 10:16 energy resistant? 10:16 lol 10:16 what is it called? 10:16 electric? 10:16 i dunno 10:16 shock res 10:16 shock resistant 10:16 shock 10:17 yeah 10:17 omg rebatela 10:17 yeah you don't get that either 10:17 bolt and energy resistance 10:17 * K2 jots these down 10:17 crossbow resistance i was making a joke 10:17 heh 10:17 no no... this will be a Thing 10:17 YANI: resistances for every type of damage or effect in the game 10:17 energy resistance i'm just a dumbass 10:17 bludgeoning resistance as an example 10:17 at least this was level 3, so no bones 10:18 in ad&d the armor you wore would help vs certain weapons 10:18 I had a jabberwock pet 10:18 they make good pets 10:18 plate mail is great vs slashing weapons, so then you switch to a bludgeoning type 10:18 yeah K2, and the data for weapons doing certain damage types exists already iirc? just not really used 10:18 anything that can fly is usually good 10:18 stupid pet was eating instead of killing my nemesis :-) 10:18 amateurhour correct 10:18 its used to a degree 10:18 mobi don't you mean 'aw I won't leave griefer bones :(' 10:19 lol no 10:19 sigh 10:19 its used based on the material of the weapon, but the type of armor the target is wearing isnt taken into consideration 10:20 can't wait for those dwarves in full mithril to become even more unkillable <3 10:20 Ha. 10:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:27343 10:21 in nethack, better AC = better damage reduction vs physical attacks, thats it 10:21 pretty broad 10:22 dnh has monsters having resistances to damage types but I don't think it has armour giving those 10:22 right, going afk for some time, see ya later! 10:22 Oh ,crap, spilt my whole port glass! 10:22 seeya mobileuser 10:22 [backscroll] arahael is right, leave everything you don't want a nymph to have on the level above 10:22 cya mobileuser 10:22 i love the aphrodite level. many rings and chests 10:23 And practically guaranteed obj-detect. 10:23 also aphrodite is a sucker for sleep 10:23 i was thinking about adding the thing slash'em has, where certain monsters can only be hit with enchanted weapons, but decided against it since cancellation is a thing 10:23 That'll be annoying for monks. 10:24 well enchanted 10:24 in slashem monks martial arts can hit pass that 10:24 dependent on their xlvl 10:24 ah 10:24 you hit the balrog with your blessed tin opener 10:24 its a normal thing in ad&d too 10:24 Now the question is, now that I've cleaned up this port, do I top up the glass again? :D 10:25 what's the point of wasting calories pouring it out? just drink from the bottle 10:25 amateurhour: Tradition. 10:25 stick a straw in the bottle 10:25 e z 10:25 heh 10:25 amateurhour: This is a no-straws household. 10:25 put the bottle in a brown plastic bag so noone can judge you for not following tradition 10:26 and as an added bonus can consume it in public 10:26 paper* 10:26 Actually I should check that at some point, I'm pretty sure we can consume in public, just not in specific areas. 10:26 yeah K2 in d&d 5e (not sure about earlier) monks fists count as magical for purpose of overcoming resistances 10:27 does bdsm protect my inventory from disintegration if i attack a black dragon or someone with bdsm? 10:28 i think if i were to implement it, it wouldnt be different levels of enchantment, it would just be 'enchanted or not enchanted' 10:28 hothraxxa no 10:28 boo 10:28 it only protects you, not your inventory 10:28 ah right so no 'need +4 weapon to hit Vecna' crap 10:28 amateurhour yeah 10:28 then i've been lucky. i meleed another npc with bdsm and no consequences 10:29 hothraxxa lemme verify 10:29 hothraxxa: Woah, don't google 'bsdm'! 10:29 itym bdsm and i already knew that 10:29 thanks for verifying 10:29 Ok, I've definitely had plenty of port, then. 10:30 i love port 10:30 It's the best drink. 10:30 well scotch is pretty damned good 10:30 definitely the best beer 10:30 hothraxxa i was correct 10:30 Indeed, actually those are the two alcohols I drink, generally. Tend to alternate between the two. 10:31 wearing bdsm does not protect your items, only you 10:31 Scotch is a beer? I thought you meant the whiskey. 10:31 tnx k2 10:31 pbbbt 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4748 points, T:5145, killed by a scorpion 10:48 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:49 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 10:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (electric eels), on T:30236 11:02 so from my limited wizmode testing, it does seem that if an npc gets the amulet, the riders will kill it and take the amulet 11:02 the wiki doesn't say the riders are coverout though 11:02 erg 11:02 covetous 11:03 anyway if the amulet gets stolen on astral, look for it on the riders 11:11 if in the endgame, any monster that has the amulet, every other monster will try to kill it 11:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5634 points, T:5800, killed by a dog, while praying 11:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:33519 11:37 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:38 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 11:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36521 11:49 i'm kind of surprised it hasnt happened to someone on astral yet. I mean, I've had the amulet stolen in the dungeon 11:51 the AI for getting a monster to the correct altar needs work 11:51 a lot of work 11:52 i'm not sure I have the skills for that one 11:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:37775 11:55 well, I learned a good lesson: never sell a cursed balrog figurine to a shopkeeper 8^P 11:55 some mob walked in there and activated it 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1583 points, T:3503, killed by a giant mosquito 11:59 rebatela: you haven't been paying attention. it happened to me and in even more epic fashion, eraserhead97 12:00 hothraxxa what happened? 12:01 amulet stolen on astral 12:02 DAMN - were you able to recover? 12:04 its happened to a few of us 12:04 was there a code change or just a natural consequence of NPC's with sticky fingers? 12:18 eraserhead97: yes. pestilence had it 12:18 it's always been like that 12:18 if you recall, when you entered astral i warned you not to let an npc get next to you 12:20 yup - I remember that - so nasty 12:37 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 12:40 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 132813 points, T:46733, killed by a red dragon 13:27 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #evilhack 13:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:34 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:49299 13:35 \o/ 13:35 congrats! 13:35 got MR yet? 13:37 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 13:39 at least he's got a =oPC - poor man's MR, but sufficient! 13:44 hothraxxa are you playing port-a-stash?  136 items in BoH! 13:47 it's a bag of HOLDING not a bag of leaving things behind 13:50 heh 13:50 nice hothraxxa 13:54 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:55 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 13:56 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 13:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:02 The Minion of Huhetotl tries to wield an atlatl named Xiuhcoatl. The Minion of Huhetotl's bow is welded to his foreclaws! 14:02 what a shame 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:50216 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:50218 14:21 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 14:24 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:50 Hello wizard, welcome to EvilHack! You are a neutral female centaurian Healer. 14:51 Hello wizard, welcome to EvilHack! You are a unaligned female giant Infidel. 14:51 heh 14:51 ^ low boots and gauntlets of protection instead of jacket/cloak of p 14:52 +1? 14:52 'a unaligned' 14:52 ah 14:53 Aloha wizard, welcome to EvilHack! You are a neutral male gnomish Tourist. 14:53 mobileuser yeah the enchantment doesnt change 14:54 that 'a unaligned' has been there since infidel was added 14:54 doh 14:54 a nunaligned 14:54 wait that would just be a priest 14:54 Nun, new role 14:55 armed with a yard stick 14:55 and a *nasty* disposition 14:55 isn't there a variant with that 14:55 slex prob 14:56 i might have seen a patch for it on bilious or something, might be misremembering 15:00 Hello wizard, welcome to EvilHack! You are an unaligned male illithid Infidel. 15:00 easy peasy 15:01 good catch amateurhour 15:05 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JOUQx 15:05 [EvilHack] k21971 7c37919 - Add some new race/role combinations. 15:05 six new combos to keep y'all busy 15:34 giant infidel sounds like fun 15:36 the biggest drawback compared to orc is it will be more difficult to do a same race sac 15:52 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JOUNz 15:52 [EvilHack] k21971 a39fa97 - Allow dwarves and orcs to play as Knights. 15:52 ^ two more 15:53 sporkhack allows those combos 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una), 3586 points, T:2940, zombified by a dwarf zombie 16:05 "Your body rises from the dead as a zombie" 16:05 Yet we never get play on as a zombie 16:05 hmm 16:05 I'm beginning to think it's an urban myth 16:06 illithid cant be zombies heh 16:06 its fake news 16:06 it's fake news 16:06 get your grammar right 16:07 ;) 16:07 its its its its 16:07 someone's fake news 16:07 monty python's flying circus! 16:08 when do I get to play on as orc zombie 16:08 it would make amateurhour so happy 16:09 it would!! 16:10 i think we found out that dying to the sickness from a zombie bite doesn't work 16:10 we all want amateurhour to be happy, don't we? 16:10 DON'T we? 16:10 so you have to die to like a melee attack or something lame 16:10 I certainly do, and so from a case sample of 1 person 100% of people agree 16:11 heh 16:11 BTW sorry amateurhour, but my win percentage has dropped below 40% 16:12 that's okay mobileuser, I'll forgive you when the scars have healed 16:12 phew 16:18 hah i read Inf as Ith 16:19 make illithids rise as alhoons ;-) 16:19 and zombie sickness can make you arise as a zombie 16:19 and still play, its just rare 16:20 mobileuser hahah 16:20 i thought we found out it couldn't K2? 16:20 I call fake news 16:20 ITS 16:20 had to be the bite, can't be the illness 16:20 lemme look 16:22 hmm it should 16:22 as is 16:22 lemme test 16:24 You die from your illness. Your soul does not leave your corpse. You turn into a dwarf zombie! You no longer feel sick. Somehow, you retain your identity and what you must still do. 16:24 its possible 16:24 its just the odds of it happening are low 16:24 1 in 25 16:25 (I adjusted odds for the test) 16:26 what's the usual odds? 16:26 in xnethack (where is came from) the odds are a lot better 16:26 *this 16:27 evilhack - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/end.c#L447 16:27 xnethack - https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/blob/master/src/end.c#L416 16:28 i think i may make the odds better 16:28 it'd be cool to see someone continue their game like this 16:28 aosdict has anyone ascended xnethack as an undead/green slime? 16:29 T:233 conversion to Moloch altar 16:29 this must be a world record 16:29 lucky 16:29 buy lottery tickets, go 16:30 heh 16:30 :P 16:30 SKILLZZ 16:30 =D 16:30 lol 16:30 mobileuser i did dishes today. have you? 16:30 what happens if you turn into a zombie as an infidel and then get crowned? 16:30 K2 yeah! \o/ 16:30 rly makes u think 16:31 you'd still turn into a demon i would think 16:31 hmm i also have some missing cases for sentient_arise 16:31 i neglected to add those 16:32 lich --> revenant 16:33 couple others 16:33 K2: everyone who has permacorrupted into something in xnh has died quickly 16:33 yeah we're going to make amateurhour 'more big good for less sad' 16:33 aosdict :/ 16:33 someday someone will prevail 16:34 I imagine in five years we may see someone doing a YAAP of "I did the thing no one has done!" 16:34 make me more big good for less sad how? 16:34 you making me go to the gym? 16:34 I don't need to make it more accessible 16:34 it's there. someone eventually will try it 16:34 amateurhour that and i will make the odds more betterly for sentient_arise 16:34 awww yisss 16:34 :P 16:34 mobileuser: it might actually happen 16:34 you can do it i believe in you 16:35 1 in 25 at the moment? 16:35 nah this'll be for 0.7 16:35 we may have to wait for 0.7 then 16:35 oh comfirmed 16:35 *confirmed 16:35 i'm done pushing things over to 0.6.0, 0.7 will release in less than a month 16:36 I'm expecting a day 1 0.7 ascension as a zambo 16:36 unless its something critical 16:36 amateurhour OK 16:36 :P 16:37 i want a drink. i did work in the back yard today, my back is sore 16:37 I wonder what other quality of life changes would be good 16:37 beautiful out 16:37 go enjoy the fresh outdoors with a shandy K2 16:37 good idea. back soon 17:22 a bug flew into my drink. i drank it anyways 17:23 i said 'hell no, bug!' *glugglugglug* 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:51260 17:24 lol nice 17:41 heh 17:42 poor k2 just can't get away from bugs even when he's relaxing 17:42 saw some fireflies 17:42 its a lil early for them but its also a bit warmer than usual this time of year 17:42 aosdict hahahah 17:43 this is the first alcoholic drink i've had in about 2 months 17:43 soooo good 17:47 you following spl teetotal conduct now? 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:51800 17:56 Kathryn the Ice Queen drinks a potion of speed! As Kathryn the Ice Queen opens the bottle, an enormous ghost emerges! Kathryn the Ice Queen is frightened to death, and unable to move. 17:56 thanks kat, that was a big help 17:59 heh 17:59 what are the odds... 18:00 it gets better 18:00 You die... The lich starts to rummage through your possessions... Your soul does not leave your dead body. You turn into a revenant! Somehow, you retain your identity and what you must still do. 18:00 i was one turn short of opening the crystal chest with a spell of knock 18:00 so i take out my backup wand of opening 18:01 zap. nothing happens 18:01 so i give it one more try 18:01 wrested! 18:01 \o/ 18:01 \o/ 18:07 v.nice - repair armor! 18:08 aye 18:08 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JOTqT 18:08 [EvilHack] k21971 ae74b81 - Adjust odds of sentient_arise() when killed by various monsters. 18:09 @hothraxxa like your underline OPTIONS for being worn 18:09 ah - it's MENUCOLOR, ic 18:10 yeah check my rc 18:11 now taking bets on whether peggy makes it out of the ice realm 18:12 i bet 5 zorkmids on no 18:13 maybe it should give you a figurine of a pegasus (kathryn has trapped/transformed the pegasus into it) that you can use at your leisure 18:13 nah 18:13 live captive pegasus 18:14 you need to use your wits to keep it alive 18:14 well then it just isn't a very good reward lol 18:15 its awesome 18:15 it plus The Bag 18:15 fuckin great 18:15 not my problem if you cant manage your prizes/pets :) 18:15 infinitely better than the slex reward 18:16 well thats not saying much 18:16 beating the first ice queen fight, all your skills get trained by one point 18:16 is it slex? 'no' -- infinitely better 18:16 and there's a non-tame fake pegasus 18:16 huh 18:16 your skills get trained by one point... literally useless 18:18 weee 18:18 Luxi otw up w/amu - at VotD 18:18 looks like a speedrun 18:18 oh and the second fight, the enchantress is immediately hostile 18:18 k2: you can't protect the pegasus. sooner or later a dragon will get close enough to engulf me off her and then burrrp! no more pegasus 18:19 that plus any frosty monsters demolish them because of no cold resist 18:19 no different than having a horse 18:20 on the way out 18:21 oh and the second fight, the enchantress is immediately hostile <-- eh? 18:21 so you break the curse 18:21 and she's hostile anyways 18:21 right, and pets in evilhack are all doomed esp horses 18:22 yeah K2 18:22 she butchered it 18:22 also as it's slex the walls can randomly be any type of terrain 18:23 so when I went there for the first time I died, because the walls were all passable by the monsters, so it was essentially a Big Room 18:23 oof 18:24 i wonder how much thought amy puts into the things she does. it doesnt seem like much 18:24 K2: she'll butcher anything she can get her hands on 18:24 but not lua levels 18:24 too much work 18:24 so you should merge vanilla 3.7 18:26 lol 18:26 not until its out of dev 18:27 so far, 32 edit level save-breaking changes. no thanks 18:29 it doesn't matter unless you're pulling constantly 18:29 which is not a sane way to go about things anyway 18:30 if bug fixes come out, i want to pull them 18:30 weirdo 18:30 sorry, that was the alcohol talking 18:31 i feel so bad 18:31 'weirdo' should never be used in polite conversation 18:31 ugh i did it again 18:34 5 tins of tengu, what are the odds 18:34 60% not so good 18:35 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:38 * aosdict sniffles, his lower lip trembles, and tears form in his eyes from being called a weirdo 18:44 noooo 19:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:1963 19:15 pooh! castle wand 0:1 19:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 2239 points, T:2557, drowned in a pool of water 19:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 96 points, T:406, killed by a dart 19:53 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:55 K2: Some of us take great pride in being called a weirdo. ;) 19:58 same 20:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 630 points, T:1801, killed by an arrow, while praying 21:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1942 points, T:3204, killed by a rabid rat 21:26 i'm working on barding for steeds 21:26 not putting it off any longer :P 21:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42 [hdf-au] [evil] PeachMuffin (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1392 points, T:1472, killed by a werewolf 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una) stole 45000 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kabalebo's general store, on T:1285 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 364 points, T:1378, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 21:53 i - an uncursed barding (350 aum) 21:53 You fit the barding on Farrah. 21:54 tame saddled barded lesser nightmare called Farrah 21:54 heh 21:54 progress 22:06 What's a barding? 22:06 the 'a' should be dropped 22:06 or 'an' 22:06 it should read 'i - uncursed barding' 22:07 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barding 22:13 Ah, very nice. :) Are/were they effective, though? 22:20 I imagine so 22:23 Would be awesome to put this onto Pegasus. 22:24 yup 22:24 that's the plan 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1092 points, T:2071, killed by a giant rat 22:25 Nice :) 22:38 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:03 ok cool 23:03 for now it gives a base AC bonus of 3 23:04 in the future i'd like to have ARM_BONUS() apply 23:04 but setting up a new obj class in objects.c hurts my head 23:04 barding would need to be something like ARMTOOL 23:04 (like how a pick-axe falls under WEPTOOL) 23:12 The human zombie bites the saddled barded warhorse. The saddled barded warhorse's barding blocks the human zombie's attack to its head. 23:12 :P 23:17 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 23:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:32 You bite the barded warhorse. The barded warhorse's barding blocks your attack to its head. 23:32 ^ me poly'd into zombie 23:38 You bite the barded warhorse. The attack cannot hold onto the barded warhorse's greased barding! The grease wears off. 23:38 hah