00:31 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5235 points, T:4662, killed by a black unicorn
00:41 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:24195
01:09 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a winged helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:4141
01:15 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3766 points, T:4399, killed by the wrath of Odin
01:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:31, killed by the wrath of Odin
01:17 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 138 points, T:156, killed by Ms. Ouiatchouane; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
01:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2620
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03:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:46760
03:59 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6711
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04:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12046 points, T:7503, killed by a soldier ant
04:12 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 754 points, T:1743, killed by a wand
04:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed magic lamp", on T:1473
04:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1279 points, T:1473, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted djinni
04:36 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (vampires), on T:1133
04:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1864 points, T:1231, killed by an enormous rat
04:40 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 119 points, T:230, killed by a dwarf
04:52 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1418 points, T:2011, killed by Ms. Aklavik; the shopkeeper, while reading a book
04:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1061 points, T:1426, killed by a blue jelly
05:51 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2607 points, T:2042, zombified by an elf zombie
05:51 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4359
05:53 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7637 points, T:4571, killed by a Green-elf, while fainted from lack of food
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06:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47708
06:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47713
07:03 <mobileuser> A thing I have noticed: "The vampire mage casts a spell at you!" and no other feedback...
07:04 <mobileuser> Makes me wonder what they were trying to do
07:09 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:47863
07:16 <stenno2> maybe you have confusion or hallucination resistance or something?
07:17 <stenno2> or life drain
07:17 <stenno2> dunno what spells a vampire mage has in evil
07:31 <K2> almost all wiz type monster spells
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07:48 <arahael> Well, that's the last time I take Amy's advice!  G'night all!
07:48 <K2> gnite lol
07:48 <amateurhour> yeah listen to me instead
07:49 <arahael> amateurhour: I've learnt my lessons!
07:49 <aosdict> play xnethack *bundlebundlebundle!*
07:49 <stenno2> the bundling is spreading
07:49 <arahael> aosdict: First, bed. Next, recuperation with more evil, *then* maybe I'll try some more insanity by asking other people's advice.
07:56 <K2> wtf is happening... did aosdict just *bundle* ?
07:57 <aosdict> it's not like I've never done that before
07:57 <aoei> hahaha
07:57 <aoei> nice
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08:35 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9740 points, T:7242, poisoned by a quasit
08:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29954
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10:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
10:13 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 459 points, T:530, killed by a system shock
10:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:8354
10:19 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±7] https://git.io/JYJdq
10:19 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 26018ff - Update level data on various platforms (Vecna branch).
10:21 <amateurhour> it's nice there's only 3 floors of the branch
10:22 <K2> yeah. there will be enough to do on the three
10:22 <K2> i need to redo vecna-3
10:23 <amateurhour> slex added a new branch recently which is 25 floors of nothing but mazes with a boss minotaur at the bottom
10:24 <amateurhour> and as you go through the mazes you constantly forget the map
10:24 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 19557 points, T:8465, killed by an ogre lady
10:25 <hothraxxa> dammit
10:25 <amateurhour> :(
10:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8342 points, T:5955, killed by a mumak
10:26 <K2> sounds like fun amateurhour...
10:26 <amateurhour> lol
10:27 <K2> hah
10:35 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JYJN1
10:35 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 cf17e53 - Fix: segfault if killed by certain monsters that go through your possessions.
10:51 <amateurhour> oh was the fix only on the 0.6 branch?
10:54 <amateurhour> have you fuzzed with asan recently?
10:55 <amateurhour> there's a buffer underflow when you wizard polyself
10:55 <amateurhour> or make a wish
11:03 <K2> yeah it was just applied to 0.6.0 initially
11:03 <K2> and no i havent
11:07 <qt> have you fuzzed with aslan recently
11:07 <qt> there is an endless winter that has fallen on the land of narnia
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11:12 <K2> not that either
11:12 <amateurhour> there's no aslan branch only ice queen branch
11:12 <amateurhour> make of that what u will
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11:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 31 points, T:131, killed by a djinni
11:45 <rebatela> that sucks !
11:48 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 340 points, T:1192, zombified by a kobold zombie
12:08 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JYUWP
12:08 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 b01f581 - Fix: better grammar/object handling (priest attacking with forbidden weapons).
12:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Bar Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:23124
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13:44 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:35935
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14:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:37718
14:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:37872
14:14 <K2> !rng redo vecna-3 | do something else
14:14 <EvilBot> K2: do something else
14:14 <K2> redo vecna-3 it is
14:14 <K2> :)
14:26 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3113
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14:55 <mobileuser> My scroll of magic detection has spotted a WoW on the Orcus level
14:56 <amateurhour> \o/
14:56 <mobileuser> heh
14:57 <mobileuser> I may hear a spectre or something making wishes very soon
14:57 <mobileuser> Can't teleport on this level
15:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48728
15:05 <mobileuser> lol just zapped wand of death at an elf lord that was about to pick up the WoW
15:05 <amateurhour> good thinking
15:05 <mobileuser> got it. food time!
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15:54 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
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16:09 <K2> vecna-3, much better
16:09 <K2> more betterly
16:15 <mobileuser> MOAR
16:16 <mobileuser> rebatela how is your monk game going?
16:20 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 133 points, T:276, killed by a system shock
16:27 <rebatela> mobileuser: i have the amulet. was taking a break lol 
16:28 <rebatela> you found a random wow? sweet
16:35 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:49215
16:37 <mobileuser> rebatela nice! good luck when you continue the asc run!
16:38 <mobileuser> I suppose you have the PYEC?
16:48 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:91281
16:50 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed mithril magic harp", on T:49296
16:51 <arahael> evil is definitely much more sane than slex.  back to evil for a while :)
16:52 <mobileuser> \o/
16:53 <K2> ^ make sure amateurhour sees that statement
16:58 <qt> k2 all of the hella, hellb, hellc, etc levels and all the vecna levels seem to be broken on my local copy of evilhack
16:58 <qt> Couldn't load "vecna-1.lev" - making a maze.  Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)
16:59 <qt> same thing for hella hellb etc
17:00 <amateurhour> if you pull latest, clean all (make spotless) and go through the sys/setup etc
17:00 <qt> i'll try that
17:01 <amateurhour> i think the makefiles and level things got updated so if you got stale setup it'll break
17:01 <amateurhour> happened to me earlier
17:02 <amateurhour> evilhack is definitely more sane yep
17:03 <qt> ah yeah it's working now thanks amateurhour
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17:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:49595
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17:33 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 535 points, T:1073, killed by an arrow
17:34 <arahael> one thing i would like is to have a warning when you're about to step into water, lava, etc.
17:35 <arahael> would make it quite a bit easier when playing with a touch keyboard (eg, on an ipad).
17:35 <K2> qt yeah you have to re-run setup.sh for hints files if any maps are added/removed
17:36 <K2> arahael - paranoid water/lava will never be a thing in evilhack just fyi
17:39 <amateurhour> nor will paranoid pickaxe
17:39 <Umbire> That's something normally set in rcfiles anyway, I'd think
17:39 <amateurhour> nor will paranoid ascend for me
17:40 <K2> heh
17:43 <qt> K2 rumors file says "sometimes is nice to #give to those who need" -- should probably be "sometimes it's nice"
17:43 <K2> grammar meh
17:44 <K2> good ctach, will fix, make more betterly
17:46 <qt> and "water elementals have to eat too you know" there should be a comma after "eat too"
17:48 <qt> "No need to have to lock that chest." should be either "No need to lock that chest." or "You don't have to lock that chest."
17:50 <aosdict> qt: are we brainstorming rumors now
17:50 <aosdict> sign me up
17:53 <K2> you kids and your edumacation
17:53 <qt> I was just looking at the existing ones, I don't think I am creative enough to come up with new rumors lol
17:53 <qt> "They say that some guards' palms can be greased." why is this a false rumor? isn't it true that you can bribe soldiers?
17:54 <K2> i'll be the first to admit, grammar/spelling is not my strong suit. please let me know of any other corrections that need to be made
17:54 <qt> I finished looking through both files and I didn't notice anything else except what I already mentioned
17:55 <Umbire> qt: Probably "false" in the literal sense
17:55 <qt> "They say that no one really subscribes to rec.games.roguelike.nethack." this is a false rumor that has become true since it was written lol
17:56 <Umbire> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:56 <Umbire> can't account for the aging process yo
18:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:49908
18:01 <arahael> K2: fair enough.
18:01 <arahael> i'm off to work - take care all!
18:01 <qt> see you arahael
18:03 <arahael> qt: that rumour should be updated, btw, to "nobody really irc's in #hardfought on freenode"
18:13 <mobileuser> lol a water nymph stole my BoH, I killed the nymph and then the bag was in the water
18:13 <mobileuser> had to dive for it
18:14 <amateurhour> ouch
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18:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] blutkampfer (Sam Hum Fem Law), 90 points, T:178, killed by a boiling potion
18:15 <aosdict> qt: guards specifically are incorruptible iirc
18:18 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2965
18:30 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3811
18:36 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7818
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18:53 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:50467
18:53 <mobileuser> killed by a silver dart
18:53 <rebatela> nice!
18:54 <Umbire> GG
18:55 <rebatela> i forgot to kill all the ;s in my game
18:55 <rebatela> that's actually where I am now (but with the amulet) 
18:55 <rebatela> i'm tempted to just genocide them but then what happens on the plane of water? they will just be other monsters right?
18:56 <rebatela> on that demo level
18:56 <mobileuser> yeah just other monsters
18:56 <mobileuser> probably more E and D?
18:57 <mobileuser> bedtime...
18:57 <mobileuser> gl!
18:57 <rebatela> nite
18:57 <rebatela> thanks
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20:51 <K2> yes vecna-3 much better. tweaking it now, almost finished
21:11 <qt> is there any way to "un-cancel" a pet? somehow my pet vampire mage got canceled :(
21:11 <qt> can I throw a potion of restore ability on his head
21:11 <Umbire> :/
21:11 <Umbire> unfortunate
21:11 <Umbire> but uh, no, not that I know of
21:12 <Umbire> imagine if you could uncancel chameleons 
21:12 <aosdict> you can uncancel an ice troll corpse in vanilla by sticking it in an ice box
21:12 <Umbire> nani????????
21:12 <Umbire> I would not have thought of that
21:13 <K2> yeah i dont know how you'd un-cancel a monster
21:13 <aosdict> I think in fiqhack gain energy? but that's the cancellation intrinsic (which given it's fiqhack is probably the replacement for monster cancellation field)
21:14 <aosdict> and you can't force-feed your pet a potion anyway
21:14 <qt> you could wield a potion and hit him over the head
21:14 <Umbire> You can #loot it to them
21:15 <qt> a plain old pot of healing will fill your pet's health bar 100% so I often hit my pets over the head with healing potions
21:15 <aosdict> lol
21:15 <aosdict> that's a funny mental image
21:15 <Umbire> were it an intrinsic like in FIQhack it'd probably have code for monsters to use it to 'cure' cancellation
21:15 <Umbire> that's textbook harmful healing tbh
21:15 <Umbire> I should add that
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21:21 <FIQ> hi
21:21 <EvilBot> Hello FIQ, Welcome to #evilhack
21:21 <Umbire> 'lo
21:21 <FIQ> aosdict: I'd argue that gain energy still makes sense even in vanilla context, since cancellation negates monsters' magic
21:22 <FIQ> I think dnh does that, not sure though
21:22 <qt> it would be nice if you could uncancel your pet, and it could be cool if enemy monsters could drink the potion to uncancel themselves as well
21:24 <qt> I feel like arguments could probably be made for both gain energy and restore ability, idk which one would make more sense
21:25 <qt> I guess gain energy is more useful for alchemy and spellcasters, so maybe it would make uncanceling your pet appropriately more "expensive" in terms of opportunity cost
21:28 <Umbire> alternately, restore ability is hardpressed for use outside restoring loss levels, which is about to change once 3.7 is formally released
21:28 <FIQ> and yes, the cancel intrinsic replaces the monster-specific cancel flag
21:28 <FIQ> in fiqhack
21:28 <Umbire> (speaking in vanilla terms anyway)
21:28 <Umbire> 🤔 perhaps, and assuming we went through with making it restore ability, one could also change the player spell to be directional
21:41 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:47053
21:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:6072
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21:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8835 points, T:6542, killed by a watchman
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22:11 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JYTNw
22:11 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 6d1b3c8 - Redo vecna-3 map.
22:45 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JYTjk
22:45 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 c820670 - Fix: Caveperson quest nemesis not spawning with the Bell of Opening.
22:45 <K2> ^ glad I caught that one
22:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2246 points, T:1940, zombified by an orc zombie
23:29 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:52137
23:34 <bouquet> what's the strategy for stashes?  I've been putting a boulder on top of a locked chest. It's always locked when I return, but I swear some things are sometimes missing.
23:36 <Umbire> I THINK that's the strategy?
23:36 <Umbire> Can you verify for a fact that shit's gone missing?
23:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 2170 points, T:1377, killed by a gold golem
23:43 <bouquet> I'd have to go through my ttyrecs.  I should probably stop playing because I make dumb mistakes when I play late
23:47 <bouquet> ahhh. I think I know where I stashed them. one of my 7 stashes since I have no BoH.
23:48 <Umbire> lol rip
23:50 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:53942