00:00 Though, I suppose, D&D would have a 12-sided dice instead, which changes the probabilities hugely. 00:01 "truly random" should ultimately give you teh expected distribution tho i guess? 00:02 i.e. unpredictability and unbiased randomness ought to translate to rolling double-six 10 times in a row being as rare as one would imagine (if you tried it enough times and checked the output) 00:03 Yes, but unlike rolling two dice, the distribution is usually flat. 00:04 Also, "tried it enough times"... Humans expect it to conform to teh expected curve a bit sooner, I think. 00:05 well humans are bad at statistics :) 00:05 imo a game rng should be more like true random and less like what humans expect from random? 00:05 Still, the point remains that most players don't expect a unicorn horn, as an example, to fail 4x in a row even when blessed. 00:05 buut idk im also not sure what you meanb y like 00:06 arahael: hahaha 00:06 "the distribution is usually flat" 00:06 Yeah, well, I think evil should have "true" random (whatever that means). 00:06 And it sounds like it already does. 00:06 same 00:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1272 points, T:1916, killed by a gnome lady 00:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:41 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 00:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 17600 points, T:11782, killed by a dwarf king 00:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1442 01:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 571 points, T:1798, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 677 points, T:1812, killed by a magic missile 03:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4715 points, T:5144, killed by an orc zombie 03:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:30 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6615 points, T:2730, killed by a gold golem, while praying 05:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39977 05:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 2877 points, T:3073, killed by a hobbit zombie, while fainted from lack of food 05:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:39991 05:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:39992 05:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3743 06:03 "Dragonbane vibrates unexpectedly, but remains intact." 06:03 Will I still have it after save/load... 06:04 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:05 phew! :-) 06:09 \o/ 06:10 no more scamming! 06:29 and there was much rejoicing! 06:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:42 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:43 mobileuser: I had that recently - I immediately thought about you! 06:45 it's just a shame that krm and mobi's gloves fell victim to such scams before the ruse was uncovered 06:45 I think we should start a rumour that with hte upcoming Vecna feature... 06:46 If you have The Eye of Vecna in your inventory, you can apply a Vorpal Blade on yourself and then invoke the eye to gain the effects intrinsically. 06:47 EPI: don't let anyone wish for artifacts till they've defeated vecna :^) 06:47 That means you're far less likely to get your dragonbane. 06:48 Oh, shit. Somehow evilhack crashed... Started a new one, and yep, it's all gone... Then I just realised... I was on a different server to watch a game! 06:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 24758 points, T:6884, killed by a warhorse 06:57 Got very reckless in the bigroom there, whilst way too tired. :) 06:57 Wasn't too invested in this game. G'night! 07:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:32 hi 08:32 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:39 hi K2 08:39 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 08:40 this is the second game where I recognize a wand of wishing immediately as a wand of wishing when I take it out of the chest... 08:41 I read blessed magic detection at the castle when I entered the level 08:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:41 crystal chest, I think it was crystal in the other game too 08:43 well, there is 1 room I haven't looked in yet 08:45 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 08:46 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:47 nope, no other WoW 08:51 yup blessed scroll of magic detection will do that 08:51 it'll id all magic things on the level 08:51 not their BUC status, just what they are 08:56 I know that :-) 08:56 but it was in a chest 08:57 thats fine 08:59 ? 08:59 normally things in chests don't get identified when in chests 08:59 it can be in a container and be id'ed from magic detection 08:59 they do with magic detection, it works on your boh too 09:00 only when in inventory 09:00 not when the chest is on the floor 09:01 oh? I thought it was everywhere 09:01 nope 09:02 for example, at the castle with the multiple chests, I always have to ID the wands I find (nothing, wishing etc) 09:02 even though blessed magic detection is the first thing I read when I arrive at the castle 09:03 was it taken out of the chest? 09:03 no, it was a crystal chest 09:03 I opened it with a wand of opening 09:06 not very important, just an observation... in theory I could have missed another WoW in both games 09:20 not if you check every chest 09:25 sorry, I don't undestand? 09:25 *understand even 09:45 you wouldnt miss the WoW if you checked every chest individually 09:50 i'll look at ?oMD behavior in a bit 09:51 work got a bit stupid as of last night 09:51 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:51 power blip last night, AC unit in server room didnt come back up, had to rush to work to cool down the server room and bring systems back up 09:51 ouch 09:52 still dealing with the repercussions this morning :) 09:52 yeah server room was 104° F when i entered it last night 09:52 BTW I think we misunderstand each other, I didn't miss the WoW 09:52 (brb) 09:52 i was getting emails about systems failing or couldnt be accessed and i was like wtf 09:52 mobileuser heh ok 09:53 k2 did you dump ice water on the computers, that's what I would do 09:54 if it's that hot they must be thirsty, it's simple common sense 09:55 nah, i grabbed buckets of snow from outside and smothered them in that instead 09:55 servers like snow 09:56 is there still snow on the ground where you are? it has gotten warm in NYC, been in the 50s pretty much every day recently 09:59 and it's wonderful 09:59 finally warm enough to bike ride without bundling up 10:00 yeah there is but its melting fast 10:00 was 60°F yesterday, will be 64 today 10:00 spent a lot of time outside yesterday with ozzy 10:01 wife and kid went skiing with family while they still could heh 10:03 I would never go skiing, I don't trust words with two i's next to each other 10:03 also why I never eat shiitake mushrooms 10:06 missing out :P 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:657 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 548 points, T:1156, killed by a dwarf lord 10:32 are salamander's supposed to one-shot kill if they get ahold of you, or was the intention to make it more like an eel where you get a couple turns to either finish them or teleport away? 10:33 bouquet, it works like eel 10:34 I saw your dumplog, I think you had time to escape? 10:35 "The salamander wraps its arms around you!" 10:36 I need a stop message for that, I guess. 10:36 !lastgame bouquet 10:36 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1616384362.evil.html 10:36 oh, right. Need !penultimategame command 10:37 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1616121300.evil.html 10:37 ya, just needed the text to add to my rc file 10:39 MSGTYPE=stop "wraps its arms around you!" that should do it 10:40 damn salamanders 10:40 according to mhitu.c I should probably just STOP at "around you". 10:41 that'll cover the various grabby attacks 10:43 qt: you're never gonna go to hawaii? 10:45 you mean hawai'i? 10:45 or do calculations involving the radii of multiple circles 10:46 hope you never run into any of the thousands of species ending in -ii 10:47 hawai'i was fun 10:47 i wouldnt want to live there though 10:47 too expensive 10:47 if i were oprah rich i could live there 10:48 i love hawaii but i wouldn't live there either 10:48 not because it's expensive 10:48 because fuck us health care 10:49 here's a great idea! let's run a for-profit health care system 10:49 you can trace that back to the nixon administration 10:49 really? because afaik it's always been a for-profit system 10:50 despite having the best resources in the world, the us consistently places near the bottom in overall health care outcomes 10:51 anyway i don't really want to go there so i'll stop now 10:51 yeah its not anything you need to worry about 10:51 my dentist in sutton, qc was pretty good 10:52 i had to switch back to here because still cant go across the border 10:52 and going a year between checkups is Bad 10:52 aye 10:53 so here's what i discovered. if a cursed wand of cancellation backfires, it uncurses but does not cancel itself 10:53 hah neat 10:53 everything else in open inventory is cancelled of course 10:53 that's what confused me. i looked at the wand immediately and it was uncursed 10:54 so i was all wtf 10:54 i like that side effect 10:54 that was me not paying close enough attention in a mob melee 10:55 disenchanter next to me, kneejerk zap cancellation 10:55 oops 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "fixed unlit extinguished thoroughly uncursed very historic locked magic marker named i wouldn't need this if i hadn't zapped a cursed wand of cancellation", on T:70398 11:22 -!- stenno2 is now known as stenno 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "thoroughly historic very blessed greased fireproof fixed unlabeled very very magic harp named i bet i can charm sheldon with this prop. a. farrah fowler", on T:70399 11:25 ulol 11:25 i miss that show 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Kokushu, on T:78449 11:30 thank you bouquet I got dragonbane from ur bones 11:31 idk if that's why my wishes for dragonbane weren't working before, since I hadn't ever been to this level 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2464 points, T:2423, killed by an invisible dwarf lord 11:43 hothraxxa: cancellation wand and spellbook are immune to cancellation 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:70444 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:70445 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:70596 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:70932 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:70933 12:35 go hothraxxa go 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:79359 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:70995 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:70995 12:43 * K2 gasps 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:70996 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:70996 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:71001 12:46 k2 I just cast stone to flesh on my pegasus who got turned to stone a long time ago, he came back to life but then he turned to stone again 12:46 whats up with that 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "very historic thoroughly blessed very historic unlocked greased magic marker named holy shit i didn't want this to happen", on T:71003 12:47 never heard of that happening before 12:47 weird. I thought maybe it was deliberate so that you have to find a stoning cure on top of the stone to flesh spell 12:48 I did just try to get it to happen in wizmode and I couldn't reproduce it 12:49 so an asshole stole the amulet on astral and now neither object detection nor magic detection can find it 12:49 the thief is dead but he dropped a fake amulet 12:50 something else prob picked it up 12:51 of course but i can't tell who or what 12:51 its happened to me and a few others on astral 12:52 the AI pathing isnt very good, but if the monster that has the amulet finds the right altar... 12:52 i know 12:52 also probing shows every goddam noc has an amulet 12:53 i set up a msgtyp alert for things getting stolen 12:53 qt what stoned your pegasus? 12:54 yeah i have had that alert since forever 12:55 I don't remember it, happened a long time ago. probably a cockatrice 12:56 found the right altar but not the amulet 13:01 well fuck me. pestilence had it bugger 13:01 heh 13:01 qt i cant recreate it either 13:01 was the pegasus statue standing on a cockatrice corpse when you stone to fleshed it? 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "very very historic very very very blessed thoroughly figurine of a woodchuck name queen carla, first of her name, digger of deep tunnels, hog of all the hedges, and chucker of much wood", on T:71077 13:03 hahah 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 5007528 points, T:71079, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1615815243.evil.html 13:03 \o/ 13:03 congrats 13:03 again way harder than it should been 13:03 ty 13:03 congrats hothraxxa 13:04 k2 I don't think so, here is a video https://0x0.st/-qZn.mp4 13:05 for some reason i had a lot of trouble this time with monsters clogging the magic portals in the planes, is that new? 13:07 no 13:07 qt did a monster whack your pegasus with a cockatrice corpse? 13:07 or throw a cockatrice egg at it? 13:07 or tried to throw it at you but hit the pegasus? 13:08 you were blind when it got stoned... 13:08 (again) 13:08 maybe, though I tracked down the ogre queen and killed her to check whether she had a cockatrice corpse 13:08 and she didn't 13:08 but it could have been an egg... 13:09 i bet (hope) that's it 13:10 if a monster has a footrice egg it will throw it at you 13:10 would they try something else first? or would the footrice egg be the go-to 13:10 because when I first got lined up with the ogre queen she zapped me with lightning (thus the blindness) 13:11 would a monster ever prioritize lightning over a footrice egg? 13:11 i'm not 100% sure on that. i think wands would get priority 13:11 and then once she saw I was invulnerable she switched to an egg, that makes sense 13:11 I guess I should thank the pegasus for taking that bullet for me lol 13:11 heh 13:12 intelligent monsters can even wish for footrice eggs 13:12 :D 13:15 so it's not a bug where the delayed stoning timer is not correctly cleared after stoning? 13:18 that doesnt appear to be the case 13:18 at least i hope not 13:18 because that would be a bug if that were the case 13:19 delayed stoning has been in a long time, this is the first time i've heard of this 13:19 actually I just reproduced something like it K2 13:19 gdammit 13:19 lol 13:20 if you hit a monster with a cockatrice egg and start the timer, then polyself into a cockatrice and hit it (or let yourself be hit) 13:20 then you unstone it, the timer will keep going 13:20 well crap 13:21 so probably something similar happened where the stone timer got started, then the pegasus kicked a cockatrice and was instastoned 13:21 i gotta get this vecna stuff wrapped up so i can focus on other stuff 13:21 i have 2 more levels to do 13:21 my peggys all get killed by engulfers :( 13:21 I think just setting mon->mstone = 0 in minstapetrify(trap.c) would fix it 13:21 need the bridle of slow digestion 13:22 yeah i was thinking it should be a simple fix 13:22 bug prob exists in grunthack too then 13:22 hoping the bugs away didn't work in this case :( 13:22 question: was there any danger pestilence would sacrifice the amulet? 13:23 also i really think that it should have shown up with a scroll of magic detection 13:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:38 if the amulet is in a pile with other things and its not on top of the pile it wont 13:39 or first thing in monsters inv 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:81404 14:07 well it should be the first thing in monster's inventory. it's the amulet 14:07 it's the most important thing of all so all monster should sort amulets first 14:08 with the amulet of yendor on top 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 9 points, T:105, killed by a system shock 14:08 make it so. kaytnxbye 14:09 "Better wear this thing just right so it lands nice and neat on top of my loot so people notice it first when I'm dead" - hothraxxaHack 14:09 also no way does post163 do 105 turns. i call impostor 14:10 they did a 1.5k turn game of splicehack yesterday I think 14:10 i wonder what going on there? s/he showed up in irc once and seemed quite coherent 14:11 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/splicehack/dumplog/1616336236.splice.txt 14:11 yay hothraxxa! congratss \o/ 14:11 ty 14:11 did you see that i resolved how i got cancelled? 14:15 Yeah they're coherent and a real person 14:16 This is just a thing they do for some reason that I don't remember 14:18 I saw hothraxxa, good to know, thx! 14:18 What was this about a canceling? 14:30 I'd make a cancel culture joke but hothraxxa already has 14:31 you were about to post it but you cancelled at the last second 14:34 Okay but can one of you Dave Chapelle wannabes actually answer my question? 14:34 hothraxxa zapped a cursed wand of cancellation and it backfired and cancelled everything except itself 14:36 Oh. 14:36 That doesn't *seem* too difficult to resolve, but then that's me coming in after the fact. 14:37 The wand not cancelling itself is slightly peculiar-soudning but just as explainable. 14:37 sounding* 14:37 cancellation-magic items are immune to cancellation 14:38 Yes, that was the explanation I was just alluding to. 14:44 2nd vecna map is coming along nicely 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 99 points, T:277, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:46 Good to know. 14:47 actually it partially cancelled itself, which is what i found peculiar. went from cursed to uncursed. very confusing when you're being mobbed 14:48 Huh. 14:49 Wonder if that's something doable in 3.7/xNet 14:49 But anyway. 14:51 anyone else ever been so fast that shopkeepers don't move to block the entrance when you haven't paid? 14:54 yeah 14:54 Umbire: yeah happens in both xnh and vanilla 14:54 probably not a 3.7 change 14:55 Likely intentional as well (though what are the odds of someone using a wand of cancellation to "cancel" another such wand besides already knowing of this specific interaction) 15:03 it has a couple of implications: eg cancelling someone who's zapping a cancellation wand won't stop it 15:03 Mhm. 15:03 also in my circumstances it was a mercy because then i could still cancel the disenchanter 15:04 Right. 15:04 The "can't cancel cancellation" bit isn't new to me personally, but it's still interesting to watch and hear how that plays out. 15:04 however on thinking about it there was nothing left to disenchant so not really much benefit 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:84008 15:06 i have only once before had the displeasure. that time i didn't write in the dust before engraving with one so got no message. naturally i zapped myself 15:09 Avoiding that among other things is always why I follow up by test zapping a monster to be absolutely sure 15:11 that was carelessness on my part. not done that again. it's also why i never use x as my writing in the dust without reading it afterwards 15:12 it has already been scuffed out a couple of times 15:14 I always do Elbereth 15:15 I forget what it is I use instead in Evil 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 10 points, T:132, killed by a grid bug 15:18 i only ever write elbereth to break the conduct in tournaments 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law), 804 points, T:2136, killed by a kitten 15:20 if Elbereth is spelled "asdfasdf" then I'm a serial elbreth engraver. 15:23 boringly "test" for me 15:23 !lastgame bouquet 15:23 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1616438649.evil.html 15:24 kitten from hell 15:25 mobileuser: i also usually write test 15:25 heh :-) 15:25 we must be the same person 15:25 man we're acing this evilhack thing 15:25 amateurhour logic :b 15:26 lol 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:84819 15:26 confirmed! 15:26 \o/ 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:41146 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 mithril helm of speed", on T:41146 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:41147 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:02 k2: i just started a neutral hobbit priest and i have two of everything in my inventory 16:03 lol wut 16:03 well not everything. only one tinning kit but two of the usual priest kit 16:04 two maces two small shields two robes four spellbooks 8 holy water 16:04 hah wow 16:04 not sure about double the food since this is a hobbit 16:04 lemme see if i can recreate 16:04 what gender? 16:04 my local wizmode does not replicate this 16:04 female 16:04 haxrotha 16:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:41375 16:05 yup just did it myself 16:05 weird 16:05 must be introduced recently i'd think 16:05 i should try again with my local copy 16:05 yeah 16:05 not just hobbit 16:05 seems priest in general 16:06 damn must start a game on another server quickly :b 16:06 :D 16:06 nobody ever plays evilhack priest 16:06 I do... 16:06 obviously they should 16:06 welp... enjoy it while you can 16:06 isn't it your favourite role mobileuser? 16:06 i should have shut up until i get a game off to a decent start 16:07 yes, it's also the first evilhack role I ascended 16:07 LOL i see it 16:07 introduced recently - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ff71bed1ffa9ede2fa435c1be6c017a45527f3ea 16:07 lets see if you all see it 16:08 two lots of ini_inv 16:08 epic 16:08 heh 16:08 yeah pretty obvious when you look 16:09 this makes priests unbalanced, to compensate add ini_inv(Priest) to all roles 16:09 for the record the second set of gear was not blessed but the first set was 16:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JmxT0 16:10 [EvilHack] k21971 617d58e - Fix: priests getting double inventory. 16:10 were the spellbooks of different types? 16:11 record breaking fix roll-out in progress 16:11 !whereis omghax 16:11 amateurhour: omghax is not playing. 16:11 was tempted to shout on hardfought... ;-) 16:11 patched 16:11 \o/ 16:12 lol enjoy your priest hothraxxa 16:12 lucky bastard 16:12 now I can do the dishes with an easy heart 16:12 it's a rare character you'll have to save it and never play it again 16:12 to preserve it for bragging rights 16:13 that's what ttyrecs are for 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) averted death (zombified by an ettin zombie), on T:9377 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 20384 points, T:9419, zombified by an ettin zombie 16:15 huh does that mean you got to play on as a zombie? 16:16 or is that just the regular message when getting lifesaved 16:16 I think the first was lifesaving and the second was death 16:16 the livelog for playing on is "became permanently corrupted" 16:16 I had an amulet. 16:16 ah 16:16 I'm just running around blowing off steam 16:17 not really paying attention 16:17 I think I've only seen someone get to play on as a monster once, I think it was mobileuser 16:18 I have to beat evilhack so that K2 will cease being able to say "oh yeah well you haven't beaten evilhack yet" 16:18 :P 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 268 points, T:662, killed by a dwarf 16:21 bah. only one of everything :( 16:22 I've gotten very close. I have a feeling my next good run is going to end in the planes, and not by offering the amulet. 16:23 you got this 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Set, on T:12736 16:30 amateurhour, I never got to play on as a monster 16:31 oh, I must be misremembering sorry 16:31 it's certainly very rare 16:31 perhaps you remember my self-poly 16:32 the epic fire-weak weapon-using vampire mage? :P 16:32 MONK \o/ 16:32 where K2 changed the rules of the game mid-way :b 16:33 fixed 16:33 not changed... fixed :P 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 473 points, T:973, killed by a giant bat 16:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:48 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 16:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3977 points, T:2481, killed by a mumak 16:56 mumak has hug? 16:56 @e?mumak 16:56 mumak (q) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical, 1d6 hug physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 16:56 bruh 16:57 and its probably faster too 16:57 @v?mumak 16:57 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 16:57 nope 16:57 muck fumaks 16:58 EvilBot knows about monsters in other variants??? 16:58 sacrilege 16:59 i assume its just the pinobot implementation of beholder 16:59 in fact i assume evilbot is just the channel thingy of beholder 16:59 slave thingy 16:59 It's just pulling the basic NH stats. 16:59 EvilHack elephants can grab you with their trunk. 17:00 (mumakil, mastodons, woolly mammoths) 17:01 !who 17:01 mobileuser: [hdf-us] KingGizzard [evil] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 17:01 see? only evilhack ;-) 17:02 i mean this https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder/blob/master/beholder.py#L130 17:02 you can give a slave a location to xlog/livelog 17:03 or maybe its just a hard clone 17:03 with the sources manually adjusted 17:05 you have shattered my illusions :-( 17:05 sry 17:05 ;-) 17:05 yeah evilbot is a differently configured instance of beholder 17:06 I think it's a copy with altered sources? 17:06 they're both configured to message K2's hosted instance of pinobot 17:07 thanks to a smart infrastructure 17:07 shout out to K2 for making pinobot unkill \o/ 17:07 it is alive 17:07 but at what cost? 17:07 the cost probably having to maintain slex madness 17:07 haha we just make Adeon do that 17:07 oh wow and he said yes? 17:08 iirc he just stopped supporting slex after a while the last time 17:08 yeah, it's actually up to date with all the new slex monsters now 17:08 nice 17:08 @le?amateurhour 17:08 Amateurhour (d) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold sleep petrification | Confers: cold | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 6d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, nopoly 17:08 oh wow you have your own monster 17:08 i only have 'stheno' 17:08 @le?stenno 17:08 stenno ~2~ stheno (S) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 13 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 60 | Generates: special | AC: -3 | Attacks: 2d16 weapon physical, 5d8 gaze dimness | Alignment: -15 | Flags: omnivore, swims, amphibious, infravisible 17:09 whatever that is 17:09 Not getting the syntax exactly. 17:09 sounds pretty harmless for a level 22 monster 17:09 e = evil which makes sense, v = vanilla, le = S'LE'X? 17:10 oh speed 14 tho 17:10 s was taken by spork probs, so slashem had to be l 17:10 then slex is l-extended 17:10 would be my guess 17:11 no way does it have dnh now?! 17:11 https://github.com/UnNetHack/pinobot#bot-commands 17:11 just saw it there when checking which variants were in 17:11 huh it had dnethack a long time already i think 17:11 @d? demogorgon 17:11 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 108 | Diff: 61 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -26 | Attacks: 3d12 claw disease, 3d12 claw disease, 1d1 gaze level drain, 1d1 gaze paralyze, 1d12 cast spell, 1d12 cast spell | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 17:12 used to look up the insanely buffed demon princes lol 17:12 @d? asmodeus 17:12 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 56 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 99 | Generates: unique | AC: -99 | Attacks: 9d1 weapon physical, 9d1 weapon physical, 9d9 cast clerical, 9d9 cast fire, 9d9 cast cold, 0d0 passive asmodeus-blood | Alignment: 20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 17:12 AC: -99 lol 17:12 also i think asmo used to have MR: 127 17:13 it rolls for ac rather than having flat -99 17:13 i know but still 17:13 averages -50 AC 17:13 I think demo and lamashtu are harder to kill 17:13 so you have to do a ton of damage 17:13 oh why is that? 17:14 ok demo has really nasty attacks 17:14 well demogorgon has a rend attack that can just straight kill you, and lamashtu yeets all your stuff 17:14 wait the rending shit is still in teh game? 17:14 yeah 17:14 i thought chris removed that at some point 17:14 bruh 17:15 artifact body/shirt resists being rended so you got time 17:15 lamashtu though, all your gear goes flying around and idk how it's possible to win 17:16 @d?lamashtu 17:16 Lamashtu (&) | Lvl: 107 | Diff: 58 | Spd: 24 | Res: fire disintegrate poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -26 | Attacks: 3d7 bite vampire-drain, 3d7 touch steal-by-teleportation, 3d7 touch abduction, 0d7 cast clerical, 0d7 cast clerical | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 17:16 can you avoid it? 17:16 @le?mobileuser 17:16 No such monster. 17:16 :-( 17:16 lamashtu is hard to avoid, you need like 200iq or be told how to do it 17:16 oh wow mobileuser is slex-unique 17:16 @le??mobileuser 17:16 No such monster. 17:17 hmm, is it @@ 17:17 @@le?mobileuser 17:17 mobileuser ~4~ tool user (@) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical | Alignment: 4 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, tunnels, infravisible 17:17 \o/ 17:17 no toolless conduct :( 17:17 @le?K2 17:17 K2 ~2~ kea (c) | Lvl: 23 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 6d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, infravisible 17:18 @le?Tangles 17:18 Tangles ~2~ mangler (q) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 3d3 claw physical, 3d3 claw physical, 3d8 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore 17:19 the trick to getting ur own slex monster is to complain about slex daily for months so u get stuck in the mind 17:19 just kidding don't do that 17:19 lol 17:20 renan@Renan-S145:~/SLASHEM-Extended/src$ grep -i nabru *.c 17:20 monst.c: MON("floating point monster", S_RUSTMONST, /* by nabru */ 17:20 I've gotten an idea onto slex! 17:20 oh I remember that conversation that was great 17:20 I think there's a nhqdb entry for it 17:20 yep, there is 17:21 awesome 17:24 nabru: I dunno, is having your name in slex an achievement, or not? 17:25 (crom knows mine is...) 17:25 I wonder if mine'll ever end up in there at any point. 17:26 maybe they already have, a lot of monsters get added regularly 17:26 Mm. 17:27 getting your name in slex is easy the real achievement is getting your name in xnh commit messages :P 17:28 no 'stenno' in xnethack 17:28 that one's easy, just wait till there's an obvious bug that you cba fixing right away 17:28 quickly slap together a patch e z 17:28 I see no problem with this 17:28 * amateurhour already has username in xnh commits 17:29 5Head would be to introduce new bugs with those PRs to get it multiple times 17:30 haha 17:30 can i get a casual mention in the next PR message 17:30 'fixes #253 and also hello stenno' 17:30 amateurhour: twice 17:30 you can do better than that 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 2761 points, T:1536, killed by a giant cockroach 17:35 aosdict, I don't know really 17:35 Maybe on my next CV I can put "my name is in slex" 17:37 then they'll go "what's slex" and you'll go "uhh... I shouldn't talk about it" 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28808 17:47 king githard and the lithard withard 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 113666 points, T:28809, petrified by Medusa 17:51 wut 17:51 oof 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a werejackal), on T:1109 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 294 points, T:1130, killed by a rabid dog 17:57 !lastgame KingGizzard 17:57 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KingGizzard/evilhack/dumplog/1616215473.evil.html 17:57 Rare mutual kill. 17:58 Last bite triggered the black dragon scales and poofed her. 17:58 An epic death if ever the term actually fit. 17:59 in older version that would have triggered a bug 18:00 killer name bug 18:00 ...would've been more epic if the motherfucker didn't have a lizard corpse in the inventory 18:00 killed by a scroll of genocide and stuff 18:00 petrified* 18:01 killed by a dying 18:01 drowned in a drowning 18:01 good stuff 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 2142 points, T:3822, killed by a raven 18:22 noooo 18:23 was out of food anyway 18:24 was that the priest with 2 of everything? 18:33 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4222 points, T:4153, killed by a watchman 18:58 congrats on the caveman hothraxxa! 18:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:59 (looking at the scoreboard) RIP bouquet dying to salamander. those things suck! Happened to my lawful giant monk at Molochs... 19:01 time for me to splat 19:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:09 i forgot to kill all the ;'s on demo's lvl 19:10 Everyone (including myself) always waits until the water plane to geno ; but what would happen if i do it now? 19:10 they would just be replaced by other sea monsters when i get there? 19:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:85047 20:21 k2 orcus just summoned demogorgon but he is asleep lol 20:22 well, not asleep but "meditating" 20:22 "mmm... what you waking me for? I just went to bed... hero to kill? I'm sure you can handle it..." 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2185 points, T:1976, killed by a giant leech 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:85058 20:36 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 20:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 7074 points, T:3663, killed by a killer bee 21:13 right 21:13 they all have M3_WAITFORU flag 21:13 maybe on summon that flag should go bye-bye 21:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6657 21:42 what a week! TGIF! 21:44 lol 21:44 its still monday... 21:46 fuuuuuuu... 21:46 lol 21:47 blah i dont want to make this last map from scratch 21:47 i need inspiration 21:48 is this vecna? 21:49 yes 21:49 2 down one to go 21:51 my vote is for a special 99 boulder sokoban level. 21:51 :P 21:51 so anyway, when I turn invisible from a magic trap is it permanent? 21:51 yeah 21:52 same with see invis 21:52 and same trap can take both away 22:00 not usually an issue, but giants can't wear mummy wraps 22:03 YANI: giant-sized mummy wrap, only drops from giant/ettin mummies 22:05 thats one of the challenges of playing giant. cant wear a lot of armor types 22:07 I just want to be seen 22:13 ugh. Tripoban 22:30 K2: A cursed ring of visibility is probably not a bad idea for bouquet? 22:30 hah 22:31 Do we have a ring of invisibility? If so, this could be the behaviour of when it's cursed. And hobbits should be generated with one. 22:32 ...yes, we do 22:32 And that isn't gonna work because Nazgul already generate with them. 22:33 (also they're frequently cursed as gotcha items) 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 31867 points, T:13863, killed by a human priest called Timo the Priest, while paralyzed by a monster 22:34 Hmm, then cursed ring of visibility as a new item. 22:35 Appearance: Ostentatious ring with worthless huge gemstones. 22:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:50 I think it's a better fit than mummy wraps that could be enchanted. 22:52 Eh, I'd rather a monster/spell/ability of some kind that can undo/taggle invisibility 22:52 Ironically the Orb of Detection was viable for that 23:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 3970 points, T:4315, killed by a housecat called Sugar