00:15 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8631
00:22 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a plain spellbook given to him by Anhur, on T:12132
00:48 <arahael> Seems to be a bug with wresting wand charges, K2: It didn't ask for a direction.
00:48 <arahael> > You wrest one last charge from the worn-out wand.
00:48 <arahael> > You kill the fire elemental!  The wand of cold turns to dust.
00:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11311 points, T:4147, killed by an energy vortex
01:19 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:13888
01:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:12035
01:36 <arahael> Hmm, so I probably should get dragonbane, but... I've already got dragonhide gloves. :(
02:06 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:13269
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03:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:18637
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03:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:15771
03:22 <arahael> *sigh*.
03:30 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:16302
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04:39 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:22064
04:39 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fixed dragonbane", on T:19890
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05:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 584 points, T:2237, killed by a rothe, while praying
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05:46 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22395
05:47 <arahael> Smallest ever medusa house.
05:48 <arahael> Two 3x3 rooms - that's it.
05:48 <arahael> Only one trap - a squeaky board.
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06:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 2671 points, T:5564, killed by an owlbear
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06:33 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 323 points, T:897, killed by a sewer rat, while reading a book
06:43 <mobileuser> K2 just spotted an U with telepathy in what looks like a zoo.
06:43 <mobileuser> I mean, a shambling horror U.
06:44 <mobileuser> This is in the regular dungeon, and I thought they could only appear there in special shambling horror rooms?
06:45 <Umbire> I don't THINK that's the case
06:47 <mobileuser> hmmm
06:47 <mobileuser> I remember reading that somewhere
06:52 <mobileuser> or maybe I just misinterpreted the existence of a ''house of horrors' in the source code
06:58 <Umbire> Likely you did
07:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 28 darts on an altar, on T:3218
07:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of jackboots entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4154
07:44 <mobileuser> lol the next level seems to have a house of horrors
07:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:4962
07:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:5849
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08:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8445
08:23 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 305 points, T:786, killed by a sewer rat
08:25 <K2> shamblers can spawn randomly
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08:28 <Umbire> mobileuser: ^
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08:47 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:12300
08:51 <mobileuser> got it, thx :-(
08:51 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1582 points, T:2042, poisoned by a giant cockroach
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08:59 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 3029 points, T:4235, killed by a soldier ant
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09:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:33150
09:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a mithril etched helmet entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:14137
09:05 <mobileuser> No patience to wait for a scroll of taming...
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09:10 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:14923
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09:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:15322
09:32 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:33779
09:32 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3156
09:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5549 points, T:4007, killed by a death ray
10:17 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1
10:17 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 47 points, T:49, killed by a jackal
10:28 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) had a steel knife entrusted to him by Ishtar, on T:63499
10:52 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:35027
10:52 <mobileuser> throne wish...
10:57 <arahael> Awesome wish!
10:58 <amateurhour> \o/
11:13 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:64446
11:28 <arahael> What's this!?
11:28 <arahael> > The image of Rosa the Vagrant shimmers and vanishes!
11:28 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:64728
11:29 <arahael> Cloak of displacement, I assume.  Very effective.
11:42 <aosdict> wat
11:42 <aosdict> .... wat
11:42 <aosdict> I finally picked up my ancient 0.5.0 game
11:43 <aosdict> where I had only explored a bit of the first level past the valley
11:43 <aosdict> cross the lava, what do I see? grayswandir
11:43 <amateurhour> hax
11:43 <aosdict> ... I'm a priest
11:43 <aosdict> Chih Sung-tzu has prohibited you from using edged weapons such as silver saber named Grayswandir!
11:44 <aosdict> EVIL
11:44 <amateurhour> weird grammar
11:44 <aosdict> heh I can *throw* it at the succubus and chih sung-tzu is fine with that
11:44 <amateurhour> it should use the base item and pluralise
11:45 <amateurhour> K2 ^
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11:47 <aosdict> maybe it was fixed in 0.6.0 you know
11:47 <aosdict> or 0.7.0
11:47 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of p'hul", on T:30753
11:47 <amateurhour> might have been
11:48 <amateurhour> 0.5.0 is ancient, just like the current ideas archive ;)
11:48 <arahael> Is it just me, or is Pelias *seriously tough* now?
11:48 <arahael> Did K2 buff him up?
11:48 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Pelias, on T:30771
11:52 <aosdict> 0.5.0 is a lot older than dec 28 2020
11:56 <hothraxxa> scrolls of magic detection should detect magic portals. hands up if you agree!
11:57 * aosdict raises hand
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12:03 <K2> added the weird grammar bit to the pad
12:04 <K2> arahael yeah all quest leaders got a buff
12:04 <arahael> K2: When did that happen? Is Master Kaen finally going to be difficult to kill?
12:05 <K2> kaen isnt a quest leader
12:05 <K2> and the leader buff happened way way back
12:06 <K2> version 0.3.x or 0.4.x i think
12:06 <K2> maybe even sooner
12:06 <arahael> Ah, before my time then.  Weird, Pelias feels like he was much tougher these past few times I've met him.
12:06 <amateurhour> > master kaen finally going to be difficult
12:06 <amateurhour> ok
12:06 <K2> heh
12:07 <K2> when you've been playing nothing but evilhack for awhile ---> is demogorgon finally going to be hard?
12:07 <arahael> Ha.  I've literally never died to Kaen.
12:07 <K2> i have
12:07 <K2> in vanilla even
12:08 <K2> being dumb
12:08 <arahael> I did get close, being dumb.
12:08 <arahael> If he put on his eyes before I get there, that would 100% destroy my strategy, though.
12:10 <K2> brb
12:12 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 503 points, T:1263, killed by a dwarf
12:13 * arahael gets to bed. :)
12:29 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 198 points, T:819, zombified by a gnome zombie
12:59 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:66159
13:05 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3208
13:09 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3466
13:20 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:56990
13:20 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:56992
13:31 <hothraxxa> every single time i take out a potion of full healing as a precaution something explodes it
13:32 <hothraxxa> every. single. time.
13:44 <K2> :/
13:46 <bouquet> why are there now downstairs on the castle level instead of the classic "fall through hole"?
13:49 <bouquet> no complaints, just curious why it was added.
13:50 <K2> i thought it'd be cool
13:50 <K2> some of the castle variants I added had it
13:51 <bouquet> it is cool!
13:51 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2795 points, T:913, killed by a goblin outrider called U-grisaithos of Oggorogruk
13:51 <bouquet> in fact, it's the opposite of evil, which is weird.
13:52 <bouquet> I bet they're not built to code.  Like, the risers are 2cm higher than standard so adventurer always trip.  That's what's evil about them.
13:52 <K2> cant apprecaite the sour without the sweet
13:53 <K2> hah not to code
13:55 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
14:03 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una) murdered Lola, her faithful homunculus, on T:54
14:03 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 62 points, T:56, killed by a sewer rat
14:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 496 points, T:907, killed by a boiling potion
14:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6145 points, T:5207, killed by brainlessness
14:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:36663
14:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36664
14:37 <mobileuser> "Your only thoughts are to quickly return to Ankh-Morpork and find Twoflower."
14:38 <mobileuser> Who happens to be dead :b 
14:41 <amateurhour> :D
14:41 <amateurhour> look at the body and giggle
14:49 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 12340 points, T:9986, killed by a human soldier, while sleeping
14:56 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3686
15:02 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:24176
15:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:36818
15:09 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:36822
15:09 <mobileuser> wow 2 genos from 1 throne
15:10 <amateurhour> nice!
15:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 1573 points, T:1474, killed by a giant cockroach
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16:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:67571
16:01 <hothraxxa> whoopie shit
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16:07 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 mithril large splint mail of decay", on T:58734
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16:15 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:26167
16:26 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 261 points, T:951, killed by a steel crossbow bolt
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16:48 <K2> heya qt
16:48 <qt> hey
16:48 <EvilBot> Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack
16:48 <K2> hows it goin
16:48 <qt> pretty good, how are you?
16:49 <qt> i kept wanting to get on irc recently but the hot supermodels always said "noo michael come back to bed" so what could I do
16:49 * K2 understands
16:49 <K2> :P
16:49 <stenno> a common occurance
16:50 <K2> i'm good
16:50 <K2> staying busy
16:50 <amateurhour> wtf why can't you just say no?
16:50 <amateurhour> and why can't you multitask?
16:50 <amateurhour> none of this makes sense mikey matey
16:51 <qt> lol
16:51 <K2> multitasking --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqt2AtHwlvI
17:05 <K2> alright these maps wont make themselves
17:05 <K2> i wanna get vecna branch done tonight
17:05 <K2> or at least mostly done
17:05 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1
17:05 <K2> tweaks after the fact are fine (and probably expected heh)
17:05 <stenno> choked on a hand of vecna
17:06 <K2> heh
17:06 <K2> i only included the eye for this branch, not the hand
17:36 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own fireball
18:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68085
18:04 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68088
18:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:68112
18:09 <mobileuser> "The blast of frost whizzes by you!  You feel cold."
18:09 <mobileuser> ^ misleading :-)
18:17 <mobileuser> A voice (could it be Offler?) whispers:  "Thou shalt pay, infidel!"
18:17 <mobileuser> accidentally tried to write on an altar...
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18:19 <mobileuser> oh it's only -1 luck
18:19 <mobileuser> sounded a lot more sinister
18:22 <qt> Thou shalt be temporarily slightly less lucky, infidel!
18:26 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a short sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:39449
18:27 <mobileuser> lol I just wanted my luck back!
18:27 <mobileuser> another short sword for the collection
18:27 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68322
18:33 <mobileuser> teleporting amulet hothraxxa?
18:33 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68466
18:33 <mobileuser> \o/
18:34 <mobileuser> !lotg hothraxxa
18:34 <EvilBot> May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, hothraxxa!
18:35 <hothraxxa> yeah it has teleported my last two games
18:35 <hothraxxa> thnx for the gl
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18:40 <hothraxxa> The wand of cancellation backfires!
18:40 <hothraxxa> fucked
18:41 <hothraxxa> how did that happen?
18:41 <hothraxxa> it wasn't cursed
18:42 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 300 points, T:177, killed by a pseudodragon
18:42 <nabru> wtf
18:42 <nabru> post163-Wiz-Ith-Fem-Cha, killed by a steel crossbow bolt.
18:42 <nabru> ah
18:45 <rebatela> bones?
18:45 <nabru> yep
18:45 <rebatela> not much you can do there sometimes
18:52 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:60405
18:53 <mobileuser> hothraxxa did the wand get cursed while you were blind perhaps?
18:54 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:60505
18:59 <hothraxxa> nope. it's still uncursed
19:00 <hothraxxa> it sucks. now all my blessed enchant armor scrolls are giving me +1
19:00 <mobileuser> yeah that's extremely weird and unlucky :-(
19:01 <hothraxxa> 5 of 6 scrolls were +1
19:01 <hothraxxa> i will look at the ttyrec later. i can't see why that should have happened
19:02 <mobileuser> it's supposed to be only when cursed according to the source..
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19:10 <hothraxxa> can't see how it got cursed and then uncursed
19:20 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2866 points, T:2979, quit
19:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand
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19:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5614 points, T:2463, killed by a black pudding
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21:02 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34588
21:13 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:35738
21:18 <aosdict> magic beam traps are fun
21:18 <Umbire> very
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21:31 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36530
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21:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1242
21:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40034
21:36 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:40101
21:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11154
21:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 376184 points, T:36881, killed by a mastodon
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22:12 <arahael> K2: EPI: Ice Queen's branch should be bones eligible, except for the final level.  And the Abominable Snowman should be resurrected.
22:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 1994 points, T:3513, killed by trying to drink molten lava
22:41 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8797 points, T:7292, killed by a mountain centaur
22:46 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 100 points, T:427, killed by a water moccasin
23:07 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 783207 points, T:61282, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander
23:08 <bouquet> jtfc
23:08 <Umbire> D:
23:17 <arahael> bouquet: Ouch.
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23:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1456 points, T:1252, killed by a djinni called Jeannie, while being terrified of a ghost
23:34 <Umbire> :c
23:46 <arahael> Evil has become decidedly more evil as of late.
23:47 <arahael> It's like the RNG is getting... Cursed.
23:47 <K2> would you say it's... E-VEEL?
23:48 <aoei> lel
23:48 <aoei> hey K2
23:48 <aoei> hows it goin
23:48 <K2> its goin
23:49 <K2> still working on vecna branch maps
23:49 <aoei> :o
23:49 <K2> i dont think i'll finish tonight like I planned
23:49 <K2> but thats ok
23:49 <K2> did a lot of family time today which was Good™
23:49 <aoei> yey
23:49 <K2> how are u
23:50 <aoei> ehhh
23:50 <aoei> been better tbh
23:50 <aoei> buts its ok
23:51 <aoei> soon enough i will have job stuff figured out and less general anxiety triggers to worry about
23:51 <aoei> or fewer
23:52 <aoei> whatever u know what im saying
23:52 <K2> yup
23:52 <K2> hang in there
23:53 <aoei> i got this
23:53 <aoei> if u can beat nethack you can do anything
23:53 <K2> damn straight
23:53 <aoei> wish i could say i beat evilhack i think tahts even harder LOL
23:53 <arahael> K2: Out of interest, what sort of RNG do we use? Is it cyptographically secure, or is it something that is more for games? (Ie, more towards what humans expect random to be)
23:54 <K2> when the chroot was made, it uses dev/urandom
23:54 <aoei> arahael: K2 can prob answer better but IIRC hardfought mixes in /dev/urandom or uses that as the actual RNG source for everything except setseed
23:54 <K2> nothing special or sexy
23:54 <arahael> That's probably appropriate for evil.
23:54 <K2> i wish we could use bistromatics, but that's far too advanced
23:55 <aoei> lol what is bistromatics?
23:55 <K2> google it :)
23:55 <aoei> ok
23:55 <K2> i'll save you the trouble
23:55 <K2> https://sites.google.com/site/h2g2theguide/Index/b/986093
23:56 * aoei wonders what would be considered cryptographically secure as an RNG... for cryptography you want deterministic for everything except the keypair generation but i guess this is the part you mean arahael?
23:56 <aoei> lol i had a funny feeling h2g2 was involved
23:56 <K2> :P
23:57 <aoei> "so it is now realized that numbers are not absolute, but depend on the observer's movement in restaurants." lmao yea its all coming back to me
23:57 <arahael> aoei: For cryptography, you want non-predictability.  Ie, the next value is unrelated to any past number and you can't guess it.
23:58 <arahael> aoei: But for games - generally speaking, rolling double-sixes 10 times in a row should be so rare as to say that it never happens.
23:58 <aoei> arahael: but only for key-gen right? you can't really decrypt something random
23:59 <aoei> with a given key everything else should be deterministic
23:59 <arahael> aoei: Ie, for games, the focus is more for ensuring that the distribution of random numbers matches the random number generation for that game - eg, for dice, rolling 12 (double six) is much rarer than rolling a 7.
23:59 <aoei> arahael: right ok