00:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:03 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:52727 00:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 753 points, T:960, killed by a water demon, while being terrified of a ghost 00:05 *sigh*. Potion of healing must have been milky. 00:06 yeah but i don't think you get that extra kick in vanilla do you ? 00:07 obviously if you KICK purposely wihtout boots or walk on corpse blindly it is death 00:07 i don't thin you just kick with melee in vanilla tho i could be wrong 00:07 You don't. 00:08 it's kind of like how i got all cocky meleeing the black dragon with dragonbane and it slipped my mind about the boots 00:08 i knew there was a reason i didn't do that... 00:08 it's all good. i got new boots 00:08 rodney time 00:08 i'm trying to explain nethack to my friend 00:08 One does not merely "explain" nethack. 00:08 i cast the screen to my flat tv and he's looking at my inventory lol 00:08 hehe i know 00:10 rebatela: You should get him to actually _play_ it. 00:14 had to bail from tower 00:15 was gonna die 00:17 Yeah, I don't do the bailing thing. 00:17 well i was down to like 20 hp 00:17 what do you, die? lol 00:17 Unfortunately, yeah. :/ 00:18 i had no full healing no gain levels i like cursed gainleveling past that shit 00:18 You gotta start with vanilla, lower the expectations first 00:18 arahael has ascended vanilla right? 00:18 rebatela: I have, yes. 00:18 Vanilla is boring, though. 00:18 I mean, once you hit the valley, the game's practically over. 00:20 i have no full healing 00:20 tried to alchemize lev and enlightenment to make gain level and thehy all went boom 00:20 so i left 6 full healing on DL1 and was just hoping to survive til then 00:21 "practically" 00:21 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 00:22 stenno is going to start playing evilhack 00:22 oh hey stenno! 00:22 we were just talking about you! 00:22 (not really. just trying to be funny as i splat) 00:23 i guess i will bring all these extra healing potions with me in case i find gain level/energy 00:24 oh now i'm a were demon 00:26 is it even worth wielding this c corpse? 00:26 man, in vanilla this would be the best right now 00:26 (in the wizards tower) 00:26 and i'd kill rodney with it taboot 00:26 rebatela: If you have flying, definitely. 00:26 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:27 this eldritch kirin is what was screwing me last time 00:27 i kept trying to tame it 00:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1864 points, T:1376, killed by a rothe 00:27 solidfying 00:28 takes way to long to stone things in evil 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53457 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53459 00:32 ahhhh dammit i only have 6 cancdles 00:32 i forgot i left vlads 00:32 fuckkkkkkk 00:32 off to minetown! 00:34 do i steal the candle from izchak or will he kill me? 00:34 i have no gold 00:34 invisible customers not welcome. i actually found the money too 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53555 00:35 there we go 00:36 YES!! GAIN ENERGY right when i went down the stairs so i can hopefully alchemize some of these xtras 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:53685 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53793 00:45 Hmm. An ancient psuedodragon. 00:45 bones 00:45 Yep. KingGizzard. 00:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3671 points, T:1349, killed by a bolt of cold 01:09 i'm dreading this run up 01:09 i think i actually miss the mysterious force 01:10 If i ever make a variant, I'm bringing it back 01:12 * arahael guestures like rebatela is insane. 01:12 everyone gets rid of it because they don't like it 01:12 yeah no kidding! it's supposed to be a pita 01:13 i would also eleminate the Hooa 01:14 any ascension using it is only a hair better than escaping 01:14 it's really just escaping while saving a wish (which anyone can do) 01:14 * rebatela starts coding variant 01:15 I'm going to make my variant cause instadeath if you wish for helm of opposite alignment or try to engrave elbereth 01:15 rebatela: K2 has some neat ideas involving it. 01:15 or try to wield a shield as a monk... 01:16 rebatela: Eg, I believe he'll be making astral rather more tricky. 01:16 yeah it's definitely going to be more challenging 01:17 i need to get the realtime record for this version. If i even knew I was anywhere near close i would have played faster that game. fucking tariru 01:17 his is faster by like 45 minutes but i have like twice as many turns! i take way too many turns 01:17 Dang, just burnt my robe - on dlvl *1*. 01:18 yeah 01:18 usually it's my gloves that get burnt right away 01:19 last friday i had a lady friend passed out on me when i did ascension run... somehow it made it easier 01:19 That's still weird. :) 01:20 oh man... i've been in love with this girl for 20+ years... old old friend/ex. just reconnected 01:20 i can't play this shit when she's conscious though lol 01:21 too hard to explain 01:22 Yeah, but I mean... Do you like, balance the laptop on her head or something? 01:23 hehe 01:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1327 points, T:826, killed by a dwarf queen 01:24 u should try giant 01:24 early game is pretty dope 01:24 no robe to burn! 01:24 I have. It's indeed awesome to throw boulders. But I like spells too much. 01:24 yeah 01:24 i hear ya 01:25 I often alternate between monk and illithid wizard, actually. 01:25 i cast spells as giant 01:25 but i will start scum for good WIS 01:25 and then usually go for helm of brilliance or try to get those staffs 01:25 you really need HoB for the high lvl spells 01:25 everything else (magic missile etc.) ends up being like 12% fail 01:26 But usually when I die it's because I made a silly mistake, or didn't run, or didn't think. I've been playing sick these past two adys. 01:26 i know exactly what you're talking about 01:26 but you play anyway 01:26 i do same thing 01:27 i'm on this medication i've been on for a long time but when i don't have it, my brain doesn't work so well. I still paly though 01:27 play 01:27 It passes the time, otherwise I'd be doing some coding. But I don't have the energy for that at the moment. 01:27 sometimes i feel like nethack forces me to concentrate though. I think it's made me smarter in a way 01:28 you play fast so you know what i mean. It's about making decisions quick and when you're sick you don't feel like you can do it but you force yourself 01:29 I'm not forcing myself as such, though. It's either this or watch movies. 01:29 i hear ya 01:29 i've been catching up on movies since pandemic 01:29 i read a lot mostly, but when my brain is mush like that movies are an easier choice for sure 01:29 Right. 01:30 But I did have a treat - my wife cooked me a pancake with maple syrup and squeezed out a fingerlime over it. 01:30 Amazing combination. 01:30 what's a fingerlime 01:30 Hard to explain. 01:30 i miss having a wife to cook pancakes. damn 01:31 It's an australian native fruit, but quite unusual. It's basically like lime-flavoured caviar. 01:31 So as I was eating this, I was getting little sour pops in my mouth. 01:31 like a kiwi? 01:31 australian fruit huh? 01:31 caviar lime 01:31 i need to travel 01:32 so your wife is cool with nethack? she doesnt make fun of you? 01:32 There's a good picture: https://www.nature-and-garden.com/gardening/australian-finger-lime.html 01:32 As far as my wife is concerned, nethack is "computers". 01:32 lol 01:32 looks like a jalapeno 01:33 She's anti-computers, actually, yet she married a software engineer. 01:33 filled with caviar 01:33 Yeah, it's such a wierd fruit. 01:33 or tapioca 01:35 Man, this apple laptop is awesome. 01:35 I haven't charged it since yesterday, but I've been using it non-stop for nethack and movies all day. 01:35 Still 72% charged. And it's 4:30pm 01:37 yeah until they decide it's time for a new one and they turn the battery off 01:38 Eh, you can get it "serviced" - that's what they call it. Quite reasonable prices, considering. Unfortunately, a battery service involves basically replacing half the damn computer. 01:38 Because they've glued the battery to the whole top case and keyboard. 01:38 heh. and that's by design 01:38 So that whole top case assembly gets replaced. 01:38 Indeed. 01:38 kind of my point 01:39 Probably makes it a fraction of a mm thinner. 01:39 i'm just jealous because i can't afford that shit 01:39 Submoronic computer design by nay standard. 01:39 any* 01:39 i have a $300 refurbed hp that i love 01:39 thing flies 01:39 Umbire: Yeah - I really wish the batteries were user-replaceable, but sadly, the market hasn't wanted that. 01:39 The company hasn't wanted it. 01:39 Major distinction. 01:39 seriously... 01:39 Umbire: That too - there's the whole right-to-repair situation as well. 01:39 same thing with phones 01:40 they USED to have replaceable batteries 01:40 now they don't in the name of waterproofing but that's all bs 01:41 Awesome, just stole that magic lamp I was talking about earlier. 01:41 Good dog. 01:41 nice 01:41 yeah i love that 01:41 so often i have to go back looking for the pet i abandoned to steal the lamp when i get to minetown lol 01:42 i like that one minetown that has the two kitties locked up 01:47 now just that ring of poison res 01:47 I could've honestly grabbed a pick-axe and hit up known vaults but this is funner 01:50 rebatela: I'm in a HCOL country, though, so for me, apple gear is relatively cheaper. 01:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1913 points, T:1771, killed by an ape 02:18 Blegh. I'm trapped - mines are too dangerious in this game. 02:18 And I can't think of how to destroy the water demon on this dlvl 4, as an Xp2 elf. 02:21 Doing mines anyway. 02:22 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 02:22 Alright, buncha shit doglifted from the shop, ready to go 02:27 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:28 The iron in the mines isn't so bad if you have good armour. 02:28 Currently stumbling around with AC:-2 02:39 Woah. Stopped withering away when I just had HP:2 left. 02:44 Curious, my wand of teleport seems to _reliably_ backfire. 02:44 Cursed? 02:45 Should be. 02:46 Ok, didn't backfire that time. :) The RNG is back to normal. 02:47 Juuuust as I was about to say: "Gee, this seems to be a really good game, for an elf, so far", I got engulfed by an energy vortex. 02:48 Footrices, hatching, etc. 02:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 10912 points, T:4301, killed by an energy vortex 02:49 THey're so super dangerious in the early game. 02:53 Preaching to the choir. 02:54 Wand of undead turning used in an attempt to kite me 02:54 Bold, if not ill-fated 02:57 Damn, aos loaded the mines with gold everything 02:57 lol 03:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 1285 points, T:1829, killed by an Uruk-hai called Zabane of Ul-uunog 03:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1173 points, T:1099, killed by a jellyfish 04:29 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 05:07 Decided to do a *random* monk. Random race, random alignment. 05:08 Ended up starting as a... Chaotic Human Mank. 05:08 *Monk. 05:13 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:22 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 05:24 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 05:28 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2320 points, T:2608, killed by a dwarf mummy, while praying 06:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:41 -!- lchapoguzman has joined #evilhack 07:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:2992 07:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3713 07:30 Stupid pickaxe. 07:30 F 07:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Arc Hob Mal Neu), 2882 points, T:3498, poisoned by an orcish arrow 07:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a golden naga hatchling corpse, on T:5044 08:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 the ring of P'hul", on T:11217 08:52 * arahael prods EvilBot 08:54 !lastgame arahael 08:54 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1616231245.evil.html 08:54 weird 08:54 Curious. That isn't my last game. 08:55 can you see yourself if you watch? 08:55 And that owner of the Ring of P'hul hit *way* harder than normal, too. I think I was unlucky wiht that one, though. 08:55 And no, there's no games at the moment. 08:55 !who 08:55 mobileuser: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:55 nope 08:56 I actually wanted to check the last-game because the death was very, very abrupt. 08:56 Basically wish. NPC appears. Wack, lost half my HP. Quaffed healing -> Already dead. 08:56 Perhaps I should've quaffed full healing but even so. It was weird. 08:57 Can't remember my AC either, but it wasn't /that/ bad. 08:58 He must have hit your game out of existence, this is weird 08:58 @who 08:58 !who 08:58 arahael: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:58 Ok, I started a vanilla game, !who isn't working either. 08:59 in this channel who only reports vanilla games 08:59 uh 08:59 evilhack games 08:59 Ah, makes sense. 09:00 Well, I need to get to bed now. 09:00 G'night. This is _weird_ though. 09:00 !lastgame 09:00 /quit 09:00 arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KingGizzard/evilhack/dumplog/1616121156.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/evilhack/dumplog/1616053443.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1616231245.evil.html 09:00 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:02 was looking a bit at your latest ttyrecs but something is not making sense 09:03 It sure was a bit weird. 09:04 nethackscoreboard isn't picking it up either 09:04 I suspect it just crashed. 09:04 But if it did, it should've kept the files around and all. 09:05 yeah, weirdness 09:05 Worst wish ever. 09:05 look at the dumplog, it's incomplete 09:07 Ah, and the NPC was able to kill me really quickly because he started with a potion of speed. 09:07 That's so... Nasty. 09:07 so it looks like it crashed yeah, mid writing dumplog 09:08 Very odd. 09:09 In any case, it looks like hte game bit ended properly, so I can't exactly cry foul. 09:10 Ok, I'm done. G'night. For reals. 09:11 goodnight! 09:19 !tell K2 arahael's game appeared to crash whilst the dumplog was incomplete after a death 09:19 I'm on it, amateurhour. 09:36 ugh 09:36 K2: Message from amateurhour at 2021-03-20 09:19 EDT: arahael's game appeared to crash whilst the dumplog was incomplete after a death 09:39 any coredumps or anything kicking around? 09:39 no 09:41 dumplog ends part way through listing sokoban 09:41 can see a little bit of backtrace in the ttyrec 09:41 not that it's very useful 09:41 gdammit 09:42 I mean it's not completely useless 09:42 something in a monster name probs segfaulted 09:43 one sec 09:43 https://0x0.st/-N0p.txt 09:44 answering yes to 'do you want to see dungeon overview' 09:44 failed during saving bones it looks like 09:44 failed to save the monster because it's a unique perhaps? 09:45 anyways that'd be the place to look, saving bones and where it uses mon_nam 09:45 gotta make lunch or would otherwise look right now 09:46 i'm looking 09:47 i think this has to do with some code qt made to help make sure artifacts return to their home base and their owner is present 09:49 no this isnt qt code 09:51 oooh 09:52 i think i see it 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2571 09:53 if bones are left, the killer will grab certain items into its inventory and will use/wear them 09:53 the ring of p'hul was left behind (no problem there), in savebones, there are certain monsters that 'return to home base' because they need to be in their home levels (Pelias) 09:53 but Pelias was the killer 09:54 and the routine ran for him to start rummaging through arahael's gear, but he wasnt there because *poof* go back to home base 09:54 that's why we see m_dowear right before savebones 09:55 nice 09:55 i bet that's it 09:55 good find, slap some guards in 09:55 when you get a second, can you eyes on savebones() in bones.c, confirm my findings? 09:56 (I see some code formatting cleanup that needs to be done too hah) 09:56 still making lunch haha 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3422 points, T:3679, killed by a dwarf lady 10:13 -!- lchapoguzman has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed thoroughly fixed very extinguished unlit +5 dragonhide gauntlets of protection named tony and silvio will protect me for a small fee", on T:57388 10:18 glad this came up, i'd need to add vecna and kas to this bit anyways 10:20 sounds right yeah 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1270 points, T:2229, killed by a wand 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "historic holy very locked poisoned rustproof thoroughly +5 dragonhide speed boots named veyron vrooomies", on T:57412 10:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a copper samurai sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:24942 10:28 \o/ 10:28 \o/ 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 775 points, T:828, killed by a piranha, while praying 10:35 -!- lchapoguzman has joined #evilhack 10:42 i want to reliably reproduce this before i push a fix 10:43 just summon pelias and save right before he kills you 10:43 then you got an easy fast repro 10:48 -!- lchapoguzman has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:08 good idea 11:18 I thought dropping a container on an altar re-stacked the items inside in evilhack 11:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JmS1T 11:22 [EvilHack] k21971 855b6c1 - Fix: segfault if killed by certain monsters that go through your possessions. 11:23 amateurhour no i dont think so 11:23 lunch time back in a few 11:27 I am such an idiot, walked straight into water 11:28 I usually use ctrl+move which doesn't walk into water 11:28 didn't quite hold down ctrl 11:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:5206 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5688 11:44 -!- stenno3 is now known as stenno 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6101 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) wished for "very thoroughly uncursed historic partly eaten greased fixed magic marker named purple pen of prurient prose", on T:57803 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) genocided vampire mages, on T:57886 12:15 a soldier riding a mumak moves at the soldier speed 12:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:10559 12:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:10709 12:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:15130 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 666 points, T:1560, zombified by a gnome zombie 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:58916 13:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:58931 13:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:22 I have just entered a bigroom variation with a large dark area dividing two light areas 13:23 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 13:23 EPI: bigroom with a deep cave like Vlad's 13:23 wow that's evil 13:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:17264 13:34 tfw lost illiterate conduct :( 13:34 didn't realise I was still illiterate haha 13:35 do you still need to get xlvl 14 for the quest? 13:37 unihorn GET 13:56 finally :-) 13:56 yes, level 14 for the quest unless you kill the quest leader 13:58 ah that's annoying, a couple of levels to go still 13:58 might try take out medusa first 13:58 need cold resist before trying ice queen realm 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:59513 14:00 had to. the bugger cursed my fortune cookie 14:01 ah rip 14:01 was still levitating when I threw a boulder 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 129800 points, T:19767, petrified by Medusa 14:02 hurtled into wall, paralysed, embarassing 14:04 :( 14:04 !lastgame amateurhour 14:04 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1616250129.evil.html 14:05 you made it pretty far 14:05 and there's no shame in dying to medusa in evilhack 14:06 there is shame for throwing a boulder whilst levitating and then fumbling around getting acid out 14:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:10 rip :-( 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:59781 14:13 I'm always terrified of Medusa, never go in there without a Plan worked out 14:13 didn't summon yeenoghu this time 14:13 heh 14:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a short sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:26824 14:19 lol I just want to get crowned 14:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker the human zombie, and former Skirmisher, on T:1465 14:24 what's your strategy for medusa as a giant monk? 14:24 just realised she can fly over the pit in the doorway 14:35 depends on what's on hand, eg wands of fire or maybe a poly wand 14:35 if you try melee then have lots of lizard corpses and potions of acid in open invent 14:35 *cough*wandofdeath*cough* 14:36 or if you are lucky enough, that 14:36 i meleed her last game. i ate four lizards and part of a fifth 14:36 but you need to have a strat with the stuff you have before engaging her 14:37 food time... 14:38 well if there's ever a next time I'll do it smarter 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Cha), 3256 points, T:1698, quit 14:44 You see here a dragonhide Hawaiian shirt (for sale, 600 zorkmids). 14:44 nice 14:46 aw, no auto-ID of wands when engraving 14:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Set, on T:4202 14:48 You see here a silver heavy mace named Demonbane. 14:48 lets see.. 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:60623 14:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 5727 points, T:4947, poisoned by a gray fungus 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 15007 points, T:7337, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 14:56 the mines are not quite as bad as in grunthack, but they invoke certain memories 15:02 at least the water tiles are lit hah 15:02 yep! 15:03 thats what doesnt make it quite as bad 15:03 otoh there were piranhas in there 15:05 and sometimes you get sewage rivers instead of water 15:05 sewage you can walk through but it has its own set of dangers 15:05 my plan for now is to stay away from everything watery 15:06 !who 15:06 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] :: [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [evil] joes [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 15:06 not playing atm 15:06 ah 15:06 but will probably continue in a bit 15:06 there's a fix I did earlier today for a death crash i need to update servers 15:06 chose an orcish barb, lets see how that will go 15:06 oh ok 15:07 fix is live 15:12 so vecna's branch, i plan to have the bulk of it finished this weekend 15:13 one of my major goals for next version 15:13 sounds good! 15:13 last one - see if i can do a decent implementation of druid role 15:13 everyone's feedback on that will be paramount for success 15:14 we need krm26 back 15:14 druid should be able to shapeshift 15:14 ^ yup 15:15 to both 15:15 qt needs to come back to irc also 15:15 also probably clerical spellcaster 15:15 cleric + healing 15:15 yup 15:15 plus druid only spells 15:15 yeah 15:15 stenno - https://hardfought.org/etherpad/p/Druid_Design_Discussion 15:15 aosdict, antigulp and I started that pad several months ago 15:16 in the pen and paper rpg i play there is a spell called 'revenge of the druid', the druid can decide to just explode in a magical explosion and it does a ton of damage 15:16 probably doesn't make sense in the context of nethack 15:16 true 15:17 not a multiplayer game, not helping anyone with that 15:17 'c'mon bob, just explode, save the rest of the group! 15:18 ^ that happens quite some times :D 15:18 I play a druid in my dnd group 15:18 if druid gets their own spells, there could be a version of create familia 15:18 r 15:18 i used to play druid in everquest 15:19 i'd treeform everywhere 15:19 like 'call of the forest' which would summon M1_ANIMALs 15:19 oslt 15:19 ravens, wolves 15:19 pencil and paer ad&d I stuck mostly to fighters are wizards 15:19 bears 15:19 *paper 15:19 owls 15:19 owlbears?? 15:19 yeah druid role would come along with a whole host of new monsters 15:20 imagine that, a tamed owl for a druid would give the druid an additional 'eyes' 15:20 so the druid could additionally see everything the owl sees 15:21 hah neat 15:22 i also think of druids that they can create (healing?) potions from herbs and stuff 15:22 regarding the new monsters, i _think_ dryads are in unnethack 15:23 ooh 15:23 can you get rid of zombies? puttingt them in chests doesn't work 15:23 i see a lot of my suggested ideas are already in the link you gave 15:25 joes yes you can, you have to lock the chest/large box 15:25 stenno neat :P 15:25 ah thanks 15:25 like a druid could apply a crescent to a tree and there is a one-time chance that there will be some mistles dropping which could be dipped into a potion of water to create a healing potion 15:25 mistletoe 15:25 i have a mistletoe belt buckle for xmas 15:27 huh how does that work 15:27 lol 15:27 well... if we're both under the mistletoe together... 15:27 lol 15:27 i don't get it 15:28 oh my :) 15:28 what do two people do if they're under mistletoe during christmas? 15:28 is there an american tradition? 15:28 idk 15:28 they kiss 15:28 i see 15:28 mistletoe belt buckle 15:28 get it? 15:28 oh is that not a thing in germany? 15:29 i know what a belt buckle is 15:29 lol I meant the mistletoe thing 15:29 but i might be too innocent or naive to make a connection 15:29 amateurhour: i was answering to K2 15:29 this conversation is wild 15:29 there is no such tradition in germany 15:29 ikr 15:29 ah well 15:29 lol 15:30 its from norse mythology it seems 15:30 imagining this conversation in the real world it would be 3 blokes all looking at eachother going 15:30 ???? 15:32 anyway we do not kiss under the mistletoe here 15:32 and idk how that relates to belt buckles either 15:33 seems a victorian england thing 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:27069 15:33 aaargh 15:33 just imagine that the placement of the mistletoe makes it a funny and lewder thing 15:33 ooh 15:33 just trying to get crowned here 15:33 i get it now 15:34 the mistletoe hangs at the belt buckle 15:34 ok, ok 15:34 i was too innocent 15:34 :D 15:34 :D 15:34 I'm surprised that's a thing in the US 15:36 silly victorians 15:36 i wanted to see one of the famous queen victoria statues when i was in hong kong but it was cordonned off for some reason 15:37 this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statues_of_Queen_Victoria#/media/File:Hong_Kong_(2017)_-_801.jpg 15:37 vandals maybe? 15:38 or people climbing all over it? 15:38 the whole park was cordoned off 15:38 hmm 15:38 (victoria park) 15:38 iirc some of her giant underwear went on auction somewhat recently 15:38 k2: do you want me to add dnd5e druid stuff to the pad? 15:38 joes sure 15:39 the ad&d stuff i referenced was from 1st edition 15:39 maybe i will visit hong kong again in the future 15:39 hopefully 15:39 anywy 15:46 amateurhour: dnethack already has victorian underwear 15:49 backscroll is funny lol stenno:"I know what a belt buckle is" lmao 15:49 yes ye 15:49 s 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:61189 15:55 The invisible Orcus casts a spell! The invisible Orcus douses you in a torrent of acid! The invisible Orcus is caught in the splash of acid! The invisible Orcus resists the splash of acid! The invisible Orcus is killed! 15:55 nice 15:55 resistance is futile 15:55 hahaha 15:55 seems like a dangerous spell for orcus to cast then 15:57 I rustproof my +0 GoP and 10 seconds later a steel one drops 15:58 that acid spell sucks if you don't have resistance 15:58 yeah it did over 100 hp damage 15:59 sorry looks like it was 96 16:00 if demo casts it, it can be 200+ in one go 16:04 looks like 29d8 for demo 16:04 if i'm reading this code correctly 16:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17257 16:14 interesting hothraxxa, I only knew it from being at the receiving end the first time I met Demo :-) 16:16 K2 it's almost like pets get bored and start attacking peaceful priests if you wait a number of turns 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (dwarves), on T:1 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 16:18 K2 each time I do like n50s the large cat pet starts attacking the priest 16:19 do they get confused from hunger maybe? 16:19 I checked, not confused 16:19 and it doesn't do it if I just press s a lot 16:22 I think others like rebatela and hothraxxa have noticed pets attacking priests when they shouldn't... 16:24 yes, i have for sure 16:25 had a warhorse go after the minetown priest, but it wasn't consistent 16:25 ie i whistled it out and next time we went back, no attack 16:26 darn chest traps 16:34 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:40 well, cats are cats 16:40 they're assholes 16:40 :P 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:61633 16:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:44 i swear to ishtar that every time i take out a potion of full healing as a precaution, something explodes it on me 16:48 F I have made Twoflower angry 16:48 bonus to stairs down to vlad's instead of up: only one staircase to cover if they spawn on a demon lord/price level 16:48 Why oh why do these people have to turn invisble 16:48 you can pacify him with taming 16:48 And WHY didn't I get crowned :-( 16:49 not go taming yet... 16:49 F 16:49 it's evilhack, dude. why didn't you get crowned? 16:49 lol 16:49 I tried like 50 times :-) 16:49 decided to take a break 16:49 i got it almost immediately in this game 16:50 the rng hates me though. i think i've been cancelled more in this game than any other 16:50 every time i get my elven hat back up to +7, some asshole cancels it 16:51 oh and of course also my one lonely wand of death 16:51 yeah that sucks... 16:51 usually i have more than one by now 16:52 do I just need to pacify twoflower or all the guides as well? 16:52 just twoflower i think 16:52 confused taming is best because you probably need the range 16:52 thanks 16:54 The gnomish wizard picks up an uncursed wand of cold (0:0). 17:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:29066 17:26 step 1 :-) 17:27 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:27 The black dragon turns into a gecko! 17:28 * hothraxxa pats his wand of polymorph 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1979 points, T:2928, killed by a jellyfish, while fainted from lack of food 17:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 321 points, T:1131, killed by a dwarf 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62538 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62543 17:45 Vlad down! \o/ 17:46 "You again sense Twoflower pleading for help." I was sort of expecting not to get that message because he is angry 17:47 it's a trick don't fall for it 17:48 heh 17:49 I am just reading an old reddit post about someone who tossed the amulet of yendor at their quest leader, angering them 17:49 long story short, they killed the quest leader but then the portal to the dungeons disappeared 17:50 and you can't branchport with the amulet of yendor 17:50 amazing way to lose a game... 17:50 how old? 17:51 8 years 17:52 don't know if things changed in the meantime 17:53 oh, they were thrown out of the quest level but the amulet stayed their 17:53 *there 17:54 yeah, that makes sense 17:54 I wouldn't be surprised if this still could happen 17:58 I just get "the amulet of yendor misses pelias" 17:58 luxidream, throw for content^ 17:59 he's not in this channel 18:00 this is the original story: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/xdtme/lesson_learned_the_hard_way_dont_toss_the_amulet/ 18:03 epic 18:04 it's possible that a missed throw no longer angers them but if you anger them while the amulet is somewhere else on the level ... 18:05 I tried to anger pelias but he just booted me out. he didn't close the portal and leave me on quest home 18:06 oh, and the amulet missed him even with a +99 ring of increase accuracy so I think you can't actually hit him with it 18:07 pelias is a big softie really, not like neferet :b 18:08 but booted you from the quest level and closed the portal. 18:08 how you're getting the amulet back? 18:10 it's in the linked story 18:10 branchport back 18:11 back to the dungeons of doom :) 18:11 but once in the quest again with the amulet, there is no way back to the dungeons 18:12 so anger quest leader, lose amulet, get kicked out, branchport back, kill quest leader, get amulet, stuck. 18:14 some cool bugs were fixed if you look for commits with "quest leader" in it 18:15 #chatting with polymorphed quest leaders works, if they are in a form that can speak :) 18:15 also, reviving the dead body of the quest leader 18:17 oh, and a petrified quest leader 18:19 I think so far dnh is the only variant that made the quest optional 18:28 wow, for the first time ever I spotted a mind flayer larva 18:29 hmmm must be a shapechanger 18:30 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 18:30 do you usually kill them while they're an I or something? 18:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:50 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 18:52 an I? 18:52 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 18:53 I waited till it became something easier 18:53 an I for an I 18:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53 I meant while they're underwater in a mindflayer nursery 18:54 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02 maybe they don't go underwater, can't remember 19:03 oh, I spotted it with telepathy, there was no water. just a chameleon. 19:04 still have to see the first real ones... 19:04 don't know yet how best to kill them 19:04 geno probably :-) 19:05 mind flayer larva? you'll one-shot them lol 19:06 have you not seen a mind flayer nursery at all? it's like a room with shallow water and monsters in the water iirc 19:06 I think one killed microlance once 19:06 with maybe a mind flayer or master mind flayer or two in there 19:06 not to be underestimated :-) 19:06 anyway, bedtime.. 19:06 sleep well 19:06 see ya! 19:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:08 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 19:11 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:13 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 19:22 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 19:22 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 19:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:26 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:28 -!- Umby has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54 K2: nice, so it did become a bones? 20:08 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:7689 20:26 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 20:26 -!- Umby is now known as Umbire 20:34 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 20:35 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest16141 20:35 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 20:36 -!- Guest16141 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1069758 points, T:69490, killed by Asmodeus 20:44 super lucky - managed to escape an energy vortex that was right below me!? 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 640 points, T:1275, killed by a giant spider 20:51 !lastgame karibou 20:51 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karibou/evilhack/dumplog/1614157919.evil.html 20:52 Oof, only half cold resistant 21:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael the human mummy, and former Initiate, on T:2028 21:01 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 21:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:19 arahael i dont know, i didnt check heh 22:40 K2: Just curious if we know that a bones "should" have been left, and yet, due to teh crash, didn' 22:40 *didn't. 22:40 But it's probably not worth the check, it's mere curiosity. 22:41 We'd find out soon enough anyway once someone kills that ghost. 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:48933 22:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:48938 23:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a wormwood staff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:4541 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:562 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 421 points, T:619, killed by a gas cloud 23:02 *sigh*, gotta restart the sac'ing again. 23:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a staff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:4922 23:03 And again... 23:09 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 292 points, T:833, killed by a water moccasin 23:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8001 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:50754 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 331 points, T:708, killed by a bolt of lightning