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05:32 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:46508
05:32 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46510
05:46 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 365008 points, T:47958, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel
05:49 <mobileuser> !lastgame lacca
05:49 <EvilBot> mobileuser: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1615568813.evil.html
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05:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7597
05:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7614
06:00 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 25014 points, T:7829, killed by a fire elemental
06:12 <mobileuser> "Your pair of leather gloves smoulders!" K2 fixed some of the passive attacks...
06:12 <K2> :)
06:12 <mobileuser> Oh hi K2 :-)
06:12 <K2> i just woke up
06:13 <K2> i fell asleep on the couch
06:13 <mobileuser> oops
06:13 <K2> lol
06:13 <K2> like, early
06:13 <K2> no one woke me up to say go to bed hah
06:14 <mobileuser> early, that's something at least
06:15 <K2> yeah. must have needed it
06:15 <mobileuser> back to bed properly now?
06:15 <K2> i should
06:15 <K2> daylight savings time kicked in here today so we lose an hour
06:16 <mobileuser> it's 4:15 where you are?
06:16 <K2> 6:15am
06:16 <mobileuser> ah, but still :-)
06:16 <K2> yeah
06:16 <K2> ok gnite o/ lol
06:16 <mobileuser> see ya!
06:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 688 points, T:848, killed by an arrow
06:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:39447
06:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39809
07:22 <aosdict> K2: wait what? it's dst? no one told me
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08:11 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:40483
08:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
08:55 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
09:01 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40995
09:05 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour
09:11 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:41199
09:33 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver aklys of frost", on T:41364
09:42 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:41417
09:43 <mobileuser> wish well spent :-)
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09:53 <mobileuser> "Your eyesight feels diminished." urgh
10:02 <K2> aosdict yes it is
10:02 <K2> i hate dst
10:02 <K2> HATE
10:04 <aosdict> at my job we normally have dst related software issues every six months. kinda surprised I haven't got any stray phone calls about it
10:04 <aosdict> maybe we're finally fixing our bugs
10:07 <amateurhour> what sort of bugs?
10:08 <K2> some systems not adjusting for dst
10:08 <K2> and being off by a few seconds can be Bad™
10:08 <K2> imagine being off by one hour
10:09 <K2> i got the crap settled my first year working at my current job. my predecessors didnt care
10:09 <K2> hate dst
10:09 <K2> HATE it
10:10 <aosdict> that's part of it, there is also stuff like "this system reads in 24 hours worth of data from another system, but the programmers didn't think of what would happen when an hour is missing or there's an extra hour"
10:10 <aosdict> so something crashes
10:10 <K2> right
10:10 <K2> or just doesnt work
10:10 <K2> or <insert dumb thing here>
10:10 <amateurhour> trying to think of any places in our code we use anything based on time but doesn't just use unix time
10:11 <amateurhour> our main problems are with server syncing generally, don't think dst etc has ever broken things
10:11 <aosdict> amateurhour: anywhere your code has to cross the boundary between unix time and human readable I/O?
10:11 <amateurhour> I don't think there is anywhere, maybe dashboards
10:12 <aosdict> K2: do you prefer getting rid of dst (permanent winter time) or fixing it in place (permanent summer time)?
10:12 <amateurhour> just change to UTC permanently in all places everywhere
10:12 <amateurhour> forget about the concept of noon
10:12 <K2> ^ that
10:12 <K2> spring forward is an abomination
10:12 <aosdict> british hegemony
10:12 <K2> time should be true
10:13 <aosdict> we shall not submit
10:13 <K2> i am in favor of getting rid of dst
10:13 * aosdict gets ready to throw the tea in the harbor again
10:13 <amateurhour> what are you gonna do, throw a tantrum and throw your clocks in the harbour?
10:13 <K2> i shall send a strongly worded letter
10:13 <aosdict> to the Queen?
10:13 <K2> of course
10:15 <K2> all this talk made me want to check replication of our domain controllers
10:15 <K2> all is well
10:15 <K2> repadmin /showrepl
10:15 <K2> \o/
10:19 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 26048 points, T:10769, killed by a giant crocodile, while praying
11:10 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] RossinK (Val Hum Fem Law), 88 points, T:520, killed by a grid bug, while unconscious from rotten food
12:00 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 719 points, T:986, killed by a piranha
12:07 <rebatela> :: backscroll :: k2 - there are more car accidents every year the day after dst starts (like tomorrow am) 
12:07 <rebatela> i say we pick a time/time zone and stick with it 
12:08 <aosdict> hm, I guess it's a blessing in disguise that it's too cold to bike comfortably this week
12:09 <rebatela> i want to get a bike so badly
12:09 <aosdict> but you can't because of covid bike shortages?
12:09 <rebatela> i havent' tried, but yeah i've heard that's a pretty real thing 
12:23 <nabru> Here in Brazil we did away with DST a while ago. It was the only thing the current government did
12:23 <nabru> *only good thing
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12:51 <K2> rebatela - bicycle or motorcycle?
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13:34 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a system shock
14:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 1430 points, T:3487, killed by a crossbow bolt
14:26 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:42109
14:31 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Ran Cen Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3374
14:32 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 4638 points, T:3377, killed by a warg
14:35 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±11] https://git.io/JqVeo
14:35 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 a0aa0d8 - Tiamat has a chance to drop chromatic dragon scales upon death.
14:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2954 points, T:3979, killed by a dwarf lady
14:43 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 301 points, T:723, killed by a giant cockroach
14:47 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 103 points, T:349, killed by a boulder
14:58 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3462
15:14 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 2401 points, T:4092, killed by a boulder
15:16 <mobileuser> is a basilisk perhaps untameable? I failed twice with a magic harp.
15:23 <amateurhour> can't see anything that suggests that
15:25 <mobileuser> ok, thx!
15:29 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 164 points, T:108, killed by a system shock
15:31 <K2> basilisks have a certain level of MR
15:31 <K2> 70
15:31 <K2> so yeah they'll resist magical taming more often than not
15:32 <K2> surprised there's no comments about the last commit
15:34 <amateurhour> can you wish for it?
15:35 * K2 waits for people to actually read the commit notes
15:35 <amateurhour> oh you have to click the commit specifically from the gitio link
15:35 <amateurhour> gotcha
15:36 <K2> :)
15:36 <amateurhour> worn by giants woah
15:37 <K2> :D
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15:39 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/1972/source
15:41 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 790 points, T:2370, killed by a dwarf king
15:44 <hothraxxa> these scales are too large for your puny body
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15:48 <elenmirie> perhaps some sort of workout regime?
15:49 <elenmirie> I may be a gnome, but I'm a gnome with a sixpack!
15:50 * elenmirie tries to imagine gnome with sixpack, fails
15:50 <Umbire> swolestack
15:56 <mobileuser> "can be worn by player giants" does that mean *only* giants? 
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15:59 <rebatela> k2: bicycle 
16:05 <K2> mobileuser no
16:06 <K2> can *also* be worn by
16:06 <K2> the also is implied
16:07 <Umbire> whatcha talkin' bout o:
16:08 <K2> [14:35] <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±11] https://git.io/JqVeo
16:08 <K2> [14:35] <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 a0aa0d8 - Tiamat has a chance to drop chromatic dragon scales upon death.
16:12 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42414
16:19 <mobileuser> Thx K2, nice!
16:21 <K2> weee
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17:20 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:65575
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17:39 <mobileuser> have you done Vlad yet bouquet?
17:43 <mobileuser> Just a warning if you rely on levitation: when you go back down on the ladder, immediately put on the lev ring again
17:44 <mobileuser> don't melee things first, you will lose your grip on the ladder and fall
17:45 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43160
17:56 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:11363
17:57 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:11401
18:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43560
18:08 <mobileuser> "Sunsword flares brightly as it incinerates Vlad the Impaler!"
18:09 <mobileuser> The fix works :-)
18:09 <EvilBot> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43561
18:09 <Umbire> Wait so that's an instant kill on him?
18:11 <mobileuser> Yes, but before the fix the kill would not be counted in vanquished creatures and not be livelogged
18:15 <Umbire> Ah
18:15 <Umbire> Sick
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18:20 <aosdict> is that a 100% instakill?
18:22 <mobileuser> no, that would be too easy
18:22 <Umbire> 10%?
18:25 <mobileuser> wiki doesn't say...
18:26 <Umbire> Hasn't been updated yet, methinks
18:28 <mobileuser> source seems to indicate 10% chance of instakill for bane weapons
18:30 <mobileuser> I notice the reverse chance is 5%. Eg an orc player should be afraid to see a monster wielding Sting.
18:32 <aosdict> just hop over to xnethack and stab him with a wooden piercing weapon
18:38 <mobileuser> "You carefully open the chest...  You trigger a trap!" I thought carrying the Master Key of Thievery was enough to prevent that?
18:39 <hothraxxa> i thought you had to use it to get trap prevention 
18:39 <mobileuser> Yeah, I read the wiki wrong
18:39 <hothraxxa> otoh i never use it when i have it so what do i know
18:40 <Umbire> Yeah, you have to actively use the Key itself 
18:40 <mobileuser> well, if the chest was locked it would offer to use the Key
18:41 <Umbire> gurrhack doesn't have that bit so I always default to manually applying my lockpick/Master Key
18:41 <Umbire> thus I've yet to really have that kinda issue
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18:50 <hothraxxa> so this fucking gnomish wizard has hit me 9 times with stun now and if i do get in a hit he heals himself
18:51 <Umbire> Gnomewiz stunlocks zzzzzzzzzzzzz
18:51 <hothraxxa> 10
18:52 <hothraxxa> 11
18:52 <hothraxxa> 12
18:52 <Umbire> wizard's dozen
18:52 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3934
18:53 <hothraxxa> 13
18:53 <hothraxxa> 14
18:54 <hothraxxa> 15
18:56 <aosdict> fun gameplay
18:56 <hothraxxa> it's horseshit of course
18:56 <hothraxxa> evilhack gnomish wizards are way op
18:56 <aosdict> if he re-stuns you, it adds to your current stun; is that capped at all?
18:57 <aosdict> or are you going to be stumbling around for hundreds of turns even if you one-shot him
18:57 <Umbire> Stunlocking happens in vanilla too
18:57 <hothraxxa> i think so. he left when i finally got fudd between us and it's been nearly 100 turns 
18:57 <Umbire> It's bullshit
19:00 <hothraxxa> it's also infuriating that you can't displace your pet while stunned. m doesn't work, it just says pardon me
19:01 <hothraxxa> fucker is dead
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19:30 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/Jqob8
19:30 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 373db27 - Addition of a third tier 3 demon prince level.
19:31 <Umbire> o:
19:40 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 3003 points, T:4871, killed by a dwarf lady, while dressing up
19:43 <Umbire> F
19:44 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:68212
19:50 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:68435
19:50 <hothraxxa> nabru: sloppy play capped by a poor decision
19:50 <nabru> :|
19:50 <hothraxxa> fuck me
19:52 <hothraxxa> oh you're here too
19:54 <Umbire> nabru: :1
19:56 <aosdict> :2
19:56 <hothraxxa> jonadab: more like arrogance
19:56 <hothraxxa> oh fer fux sake
19:57 <hothraxxa> see this is why i died. i can't keep my windows straight
19:57 <Umbire> :3
19:57 <aosdict> try linux. haw haw haw
19:58 <hothraxxa> funny lad. fyi this is my ubuntu linux install
19:58 <hothraxxa> i know you were making a funny
20:06 <Umbire> Alright, so I know Orcus's wand of death got replaced with his unique mace thing
20:06 <Umbire> There any guaranteed wands of death in EvilHack?
20:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:69081
20:12 <bouquet> thanks, mobileuser
20:12 <Umbire> bouquet: Orcus didn't have an actual wand of death just then right?
20:12 <Umbire> Want to be 110% sure
20:13 <Umbire> In addition to the previous question
20:14 <bouquet> Umbire: correct. Just his "wand"
20:14 <Umbire> Right, but what of other actual wands of death
20:15 <bouquet> no. The AD&D MM called his relic "The Wand of Orcus", but it's a heavy mace in eh
20:15 <Umbire> I know
20:15 <Umbire> I'm asking if there's a guaranteed wand of death anywhere in the game
20:16 <bouquet> I've got about 10 of them from random drops
20:16 <Umbire> Lucky you
20:16 <Umbire> But I guess I'll have to take that as a no for the time being?
20:16 <bouquet> ya, sorry. I realize my replies were the opposite of helpful
20:17 <Umbire> You're good
20:17 <bouquet> what's this about falling down ladders in vlad's tower? Is that a vlad-specific feature?
20:17 <Umbire> I'll just come back to it later once I get an answer re: guaranteed spawns
20:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:69717
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21:56 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JqPZN
21:56 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 59d996e - Tweaks to hellc-2 map.
22:13 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JqPrN
22:13 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 909d243 - A couple more tweaks to hellc-2 map.
22:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16102
22:43 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:70089
23:10 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JqXrp
23:10 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 e1a9446 - Lolth has two arms.
23:11 <Umbire> oh BULLSHIT
23:11 <Umbire> 0/10 fucking unplayable
23:19 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JqXS3
23:19 <Not-ca25> [EvilHack] k21971 453da70 - Set mspec for several spellcasting boss-type monsters to 0.
23:24 <K2> gehennom revamp baically complete
23:24 <K2> *basically
23:25 <Umbire> Niceu
23:25 <Umbire> What's that last fix do
23:28 <K2> did you read the commit notes? there's a link
23:29 <bouquet> i'm at the demogorgon level. Looks really bad.
23:29 <bouquet> or rather... looks really EVIL
23:30 <K2> :P
23:30 <bouquet> I'm guessing my best strategy is A. unencumbered, B. paralysis in his face, C. eucalyptus on hand
23:31 <K2> be aware that just like any other food, eucalyptus leaves can be rotten. you wind up eating one and will pass out
23:31 <K2> so have other means of curing disease on hand
23:32 <bouquet> even if they're blessed?
23:32 <K2> demogorgon is unchanged from vanilla in this version fyi
23:32 <bouquet> vanilla 3.7 where he's not affected by scare monster?
23:32 <K2> blessed? hmm... i'm not 100% sure
23:33 <K2> bouquet correct, ?oSM doesnt work on uniques
23:33 <Umbire> I read the commit note K2 but I don't know what it means
23:33 <Umbire> blessed food can't be rotten
23:35 <K2> Umbire - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/453da70e0247f4f035968c835c3cdb7acb27f4bf
23:35 <K2> you see those notes?
23:36 <Umbire> ah.
23:36 <Umbire> ...huh.
23:37 <bouquet> I practiced a zillion times this afternoon and basically my only chance at survival is to hit him with paralysis otherwise I'm stunlocked and terminally ill and then dead.
23:38 <bouquet> but unencumbered has always been the most important thing with demo since he gets so many special attacks so fast
23:38 <K2> yup, unencumbered and being very fast is good
23:39 <bouquet> going to start with a boulder fort and try to wake him with cursed invis. That'll wake him up in this special level?
23:39 <K2> it should
23:40 <bouquet> gotta head back to my dang stash
23:41 <bouquet> why did my invis potion explode when mixed with unholy water? :(
23:42 <K2> you sure it was invis? sounds like acid
23:42 <bouquet> I had a stack of 2, now just 1.
23:43 <bouquet> The clear potion mixes with one of the potions of invisibility...
23:43 <bouquet> BOOM!  They explode!
23:43 <K2> huh
23:44 <K2> i just wiztested that
23:44 <K2> i get cursed invis
23:44 <K2> you had a stack of invis?
23:44 <K2> or stack of unholy water
23:44 <bouquet> both I think
23:44 <K2> oh, stack of invis
23:44 <bouquet> I had 2 of each
23:45 <K2> still no boom
23:45 <bouquet> looks like I dipped the unholy water INTO the invis.
23:45 <K2> are your potions of invis ID'ed? or did you just name them?
23:45 <K2> ooooh
23:45 <bouquet> they are ID'd
23:45 <Umbire> Wrong order
23:45 <Umbire> F
23:46 <bouquet> never noticed that before.
23:46 <K2> yup that'll do it
23:46 <K2> forgot about that
23:46 <K2> order is important
23:49 <bouquet> are there any means of sickness resistance?
23:49 <Umbire> Being a ghoul
23:49 <bouquet> looks like only gold dsm.
23:49 <Umbire> Or a fungus
23:49 <Umbire> Or that, yeah
23:49 <Umbire> Was gonna say Evil's def. added more sources
23:49 <bouquet> and I can't wear body armor
23:50 <Umbire> Also being a convict
23:50 <Umbire> bouquet: Just polyself into a gold dragon 4Head
23:51 <bouquet> not a bad idea, except my attacks wouldn't be as good as what I'm currently swinging
23:52 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:71934
23:53 <bouquet> obviously not EVIL enough
23:53 <Umbire> Hell ye
23:55 * bouquet bows
23:55 <bouquet> nite
23:56 <Umbire> Night