00:00 That's how I always play. 00:00 just lost my speed boots, dragon shirt and robe. going back to real life 00:00 rebatela: Haha, cute. 00:00 fuck 00:00 what to even do now 00:00 wrest this wish for new dragonhide robe i guess 00:00 or dragonhide cloak of mr 00:01 i'm tempted to keep playing. i hate when that shit happens and cloak and shirt get ripped! 00:02 i can pray in valley yes? 00:02 or is that gehennom 00:02 i have holy water but can't access bag no hands 00:02 castle i can pray 00:02 problem is i'll start playing and this chick will wake up lol 00:04 rebatela: Don't think you can pray in the valley either. 00:05 I'd get back to the castle. 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5336 points, T:6403, poisoned by a killer bee 00:05 i waited it out and drank holy water 00:05 but al i have left for armor is helm and gloves 00:05 -31AC tho not bad? 00:06 still ascendable 00:06 can wrest the wish for dragonhide cloak of mr then i can use the amulet and eyes slot for anything 00:06 hopefully find and enchant a shirt 00:07 make sure not to kick this basilisk 00:10 Woah, how do you get -31AC with just helm and gloves? 00:10 some of it is divine... prayer/donations 00:11 That only gives some 7 or 9 units... 00:11 dragonbane and dragonhide elven helm +7 00:11 Oooh, nice. 00:12 What were you at before ripping your tshirt and cloak? 00:12 i had dragonhide tshirt of drain resistance 00:12 it got shredded with the robe 00:12 my ac was just -55 00:13 Sad. -55 is still insane, though. 00:13 yeah i'll get some back just going to my stadsh 00:13 and i have a wish to wrest but i really wanted another death wand 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:1058 00:14 what time is it in australia now? 00:15 but as far as ac, if you altar camp you can keep getting protection 00:15 Floating eyes are the only instance of animate body parts in vanilla, right? 00:15 4:14pm. 00:15 i probably have 13 or 14 00:16 it doesn't cap at 9. just gets harder 00:16 rebatela: Ah, interesting. 00:16 the first giant i ascended had +20 00:16 you can keep donating too 00:16 it just gets much harder after the +9 00:17 Oh, darn. Don't know how I survived this... Ate a C-ration, which paralysed me... 00:17 And at THAT moment, an NPC arrived. 00:17 but if you kill the priest and donate to the next one, sometimes you get an extra point or two etc 00:17 or drain yourself. some people do that 00:17 As long as teh priest isn't co-aligned. 00:17 yeah don't kill your own priest! 00:18 what happens if you polymorph and eat those amulets of guarding? 00:18 is that capped? It must be like eating rings of protection and get harder and harder or whatever 00:19 can you even eat rings of protection? 00:19 i remember eating a bunch of increase damage rings once as a giant monk. got like +8 to get across 00:20 Ooh, woah. "Mike the invisible Joshu" is able to do 4 hits in one turn. 00:21 And melee is the only way I can play in this game. :( My ranged weapons and spells are crap. 00:22 Considering polymorphing him, but it'll poly everything he has, too, right? 00:22 Melee'ed him. All good! 00:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:33 EvilHack adds magical eyes to the family, right? 00:33 * Umbire is troping 00:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:35 *sigh*. Freaking stupid iguana getting in teh way. :( 00:35 This could've been The game. 00:35 But got distracted. :( 00:36 *one* turn. 00:36 Hmm, no real fancy loot, if this becomes a bones people will be a bit meh with it. 00:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 43511 points, T:11918, killed by an ettin 00:37 I always seem to do a YASD. 00:37 F 00:38 ...I should try for a playable ettin-like species 00:38 Maybe adapt the Taddol 00:38 And I didn't even have a sleepign girl on my lap with it. 00:45 oh man i wish i was kidding about that 00:45 it's a real problem 00:45 lol 00:46 i gotta wake her up and move her. plus i have her dog here and now he's waking up because my cat is playing with a toy 00:46 it's a real situation. i just want to play nethack but i just lost all my armor tryingt o do that so i probably shouldnt 00:47 my cat is teasing her giant golden retriever. they are going to wake her up and she's going to catch me playing nethack 00:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2793 00:56 i need to just pick up whatver boots/cloak etc i find 00:57 now there's a cockatrice (still no boots) and an archon lol 00:58 yeah it's those damn weredemons that gave me the lycanrhtopy 00:58 those things suck! 00:58 i was just running through ignoring messages like an idiot 00:59 soooo just in theory here. i could ditch the amuelt and use the eye to go back to my stash and do a whole bunch of stuff and then come back and get it ? 00:59 i think i might actually do that 01:00 once i don't have the amulet i can use the eye, curse teleport. etc. 01:00 i need to replace the armor and haste myself if i'm not gonna have speed boots 01:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:51242 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4052 01:14 rebatela: What's it like in demon form? 01:27 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:52144 01:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52151 01:29 what's what like in demon form? 01:29 lol 01:31 still have the free action ring! 01:31 F those energy vortices maaaan! 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:52341 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:52341 01:35 You can still breathe, though 01:35 yeah that's right! because i've already DIED this WAY BEFORE !! 01:35 magical breathing ftw 01:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:5532 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:52674 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:52678 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:52680 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:52702 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:52719 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:52722 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible SurferOfButthole's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:5955 01:45 oh grand tour 01:45 not gonna make it 01:45 fuck 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:52778 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:52778 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 3447158 points, T:52792, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1614432087.evil.html 01:48 Well done you 01:48 yo* 01:48 aaaand the girl is still sleeping. thank god 01:50 How ya feelin'? 01:51 amazing 01:51 how are you? 01:52 Troping and mulling over ideas 01:52 YASI: mind flayers should take double damage from cold attacks 01:52 and/or take slight damage from eating icy monsters' corpses 01:54 i keep teleporting anything... that was my old vanilla astral strategy too 01:54 just don't teleport the riders 02:11 congrats rebatela 02:14 thanks! 02:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:53 What happens if you teleport the riders? 03:22 -!- Not-3d3e has quit [Excess Flood] 03:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:2640 03:24 Finally. 03:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:54 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 05:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:51 !lastasc rebatela 05:51 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1614432087.evil.html 05:51 congrats rebatela! 06:15 thanks 07:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:36353 07:36 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36365 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36365 08:04 -!- mode/EvilBot [+RZi] by EvilBot 08:04 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.6.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 08:04 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:04 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36727 08:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:14 wow rebatela, an elf monk. impressive 08:14 ty 08:16 i decided to wear EotA for telepetathy since i had lost see invisible? but that meant i had to levitate and i forgot to 08:16 and walked right into lava burn out my speed boots then got lycanthropy and burst through shirt and robe 08:16 quite the adventure 08:16 not good 08:16 but it all worked out 08:17 it's a way more satisfying win though 08:17 i don't like that losing see invisible bit 08:18 i had that game paused for a while with the amulet because it was bothering me! 08:18 good thing something didn't cast a spell at you before that to make you vulnerable to fire! 08:18 i don't mind that so much 08:19 but that goes away 08:19 I had the exact same thing happen, levitating and forgetting to put it back on 08:19 oh i see 08:19 yeah 08:19 instadeath 08:19 i'm so used to flying 08:19 i decided to go for dragonhide water walkers in case of that sort of mistake 08:19 yeah :-) 08:19 i was surprised it wasn't instadeathj 08:19 this was a few hours ago when i was going up 08:19 but it's all about not being able to see invisible with the EYES OF THE OVERWORLD 08:20 hint hint 08:20 that is ridiculous 08:20 you have these all-powerful eyes, EXCEPT... 08:21 i guess it's not a concern in vanilla because it's really unlikely you'll lose see invisible 08:22 in my game, demogorogon showed up early last night and i nearly died. finally managed to get some full healing and eucalyptus out of my bag and build a boulder fort 08:22 oh nice! 08:23 first thing he did was unbless my unihorn 08:23 i wasn't expecting him so hadn't prepared at all 08:23 i've had him show up early twice before both times in the VOTD! 08:23 lived once, splatted once 08:23 still not sure how he was summoned either time. it wasn't bones 08:23 yeah it's crazy when you aren't expecting it like that 08:24 and you're not on the stairs or anything... 08:24 well this was on his level, but i'm a giant so i guess my natural aggravate monsters woke him up 08:24 oh ok 08:24 i've messed up and gone UP to his level like from the vs level and woke him up and died 08:24 yeah i was well away from the stairs 08:25 that acid attack he has is nasty and then you get stunned and sick and all that lol 08:25 my usual strategy is make a boulder fort then quaff cursed invisibility and take him down with ranged attacks 08:25 it can get bad fast 08:25 yeah me too 08:25 i go off to the left and make a boulder fort 08:26 also i'd been tossing mjollnir around like crazy, then this one time upon return it took out my wands of death and cancellation and my ring of teleport control :( 08:27 yeah that's why i never use it 08:28 i usually don't throw it but it was working so well 08:28 mjolnnir can be such a game changer when you get it though depending 08:28 i always play monks so i forget 08:29 fortunately i was carrying a backup ring 08:29 running out of fta slots in evil... 08:30 elvish ranger? 08:32 reading back what you said, yeah giants aggravate monster all the time 08:33 evilhack elves are delicate because iron 08:33 yeah the early game is a bitch... 08:33 eg keys are base iron iirc 08:33 something multishots some crossbolt bolts and dywypi 08:34 the object materials helps.. i mean it's easy to find like a stone or bone orcish helm or whatever right off the bat 08:35 tell that to all my dead wizards and valks who got taken down by zombies 08:35 but their constitution is maxed at like 16 or someting and str at flat 18 08:35 before finding a stupid hat 08:35 the cons cap is brutal 08:35 i kept saying if i ascend this elf, i'm going back to giant! 08:35 i missed boulders... 08:35 strength i don't find so much a problem 08:36 giants have so few choices in the game though 08:36 giant you can get straight up 25 strngeth and 25 con i think 08:36 i always stone to flesh/poly for blssed spinach tins and get to 25 08:36 yes i finally got my giant to str 25 08:36 nice 08:36 it's hard because you can't eat giants obviously 08:37 as a valk i can't cast bugger all 08:37 i mean i guess you can 08:37 you already aggravatae monster 08:37 what is the penalty for annibalism? just luck ? 08:37 you lose esp 08:37 ahh that sucks 08:37 like murder 08:38 neutral giant is fun or chaotic because they have that cool ring you can wish for 08:38 wait i'm confused. hot me with a unihorn 08:38 hit 08:38 lawful has no good artifacts 08:38 you don't lose esp, that's for murder 08:39 yeah 08:39 I have done that as giant, collect lots of tins of giant meat and take the luck penalty once 08:39 magic mirror is great for a giant but king arthur is tough 08:39 right 08:39 i learned all about polypiling food from oh6 08:39 he'll have excalibur if it's not already in the game 08:39 getting to 25str is easy peasy 08:40 Can't Valkyrie's cast spells in theory? With a robe at least? 08:40 helm of brilliance? 08:41 yes i can actually cast repair armor because i have a staff of matter 08:41 in evil there are those staves 08:41 staffs 08:41 whwatever 08:41 they drop the fail % in HALF 08:41 brilliance not much help and a giant wants to wear a helm of speed 08:41 so 99% fail finger of deateh goes to 50 08:42 i think if i take off everything i can also cast healing at about 25% or so 08:42 but you gotta wield the staff 08:42 i love those staffs 08:42 i was casting poly at 0% as a giant 08:42 oh i can also cast restore ability when naked 08:43 yeah 08:43 is that like your special spell or somethign? 08:43 wiat what are you again? 08:43 giant valk 08:43 oh nice 08:43 lawful :( 08:43 yeah you've been playing for a bit 08:43 oh 08:43 snap 08:44 almost no choice in how you kit out 08:44 so what does a lawful giant valk do for MR? the amulet is the only choice? 08:44 magicbane? 08:44 well if i could have gotten the mmom... 08:44 i would do +7 magicbane 08:44 solves both mr and reflection 08:44 and just never unwield it 08:44 no thanks 08:44 hehe 08:44 i have excalibur 08:45 it's too bad you can't dual weapon grand master martial arts and magicbane... 08:45 what is the mmom? 08:45 i have to wear a shield of reflection so no dual-weapon 08:45 oh mirror 08:45 it's reflection now though! 08:45 right 08:45 which obviously makes sense it's a mirror derp. i get it 08:45 but it sucks 08:45 oh no mr i forgot 08:45 that there's no artifact for lawful to wish for for mr 08:46 don't wish for magicbane if you haven't got MR yet 08:46 lawful giant is a challenge in evil for sure 08:46 Tim the wizard will kill you with touch of death :-) 08:46 ahh that too 08:47 monks have it easy actually because the QA gives mr... neutral can wish for either eye (or pyec!) 08:50 pyec ftw 08:51 twoflower is not too hard 08:51 hehe 08:51 such a joke 08:53 pyec is a great wish 08:53 i'm gonna play a giant 08:56 have you ever wish for the eota? 08:56 neferet? is not like twoflower... 08:57 she is like fighting kaen or something 09:06 hmmm lawful and chaotic human monk are left. i should do those i guess 09:09 amateurhour needs to play evilhack again,.. plays monk with all the conducts and such 09:10 fighting twoflower should make you have to fight the Luggage, and good luck with that one 09:32 hi 09:32 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 09:37 dragonbane issues should be resolved, patch is live 09:49 -!- ghostpapper has joined #evilhack 10:02 thx K2, that was a lot of refactoring and fixing! 10:03 "The invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen partially disintegrates!" yet no HP reduction... 10:04 she may have regenerated already 10:04 i tested that, it works 10:04 the damage isnt a lot 10:04 yeah, second time there was a little bit of damage 10:05 I may be paranoid, but my BDSM feels more effective at the moment 10:05 it is 10:05 \o/ 10:05 the % chance of things happening was all over the place 10:06 now its all inline across the board 10:06 if black dragon, 1 in 6 chance an object hitting it will disintegrate, 1 in 20 chance you/monster will disint if attacking bare-handed/etc 10:07 if BDSM, its 1 in 12 / 1 in 40 for same 10:07 hi guys 10:07 the scales dont have the full power of the dragon itself 10:07 hi ghostpapper 10:08 Miss of MIRC, 3 years without entering 10:08 ? 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:37444 10:11 nice mobileuser 10:18 \o/ thx 10:23 I may be paranoid, but my BDSM feels more effective at the moment <--- just be aare, that goes both ways :) 10:23 *aware 10:23 also, other elemental passive damage was being suppressed. dunno if this was a vanilla bug or done on purpose, but I opened it up 10:24 so hitting a fire elemental bare handed while wearing leather gloves, you run a risk of damaging the gloves 10:24 etc 10:37 hooray I started with sleep spell 10:37 * amateurhour realises it starts with 88% fail rate 10:37 ah 10:37 monk? 10:37 yeah, human 10:37 hooman 10:44 guess that's because you raised sleep's level to 2 10:44 might just start scum for healing then, sleep is a no-go and protection is ass 10:45 did you start with low wisdom? 10:45 no 10:45 yeah its lvl 2 now but you'd be able to cast it fairly soon 10:45 lower than possible sure, but in another one I just quit it started at 82% fail 10:46 I'd rather just start with 0% failure on healing 10:46 sleep spell really should be level 3 or even 4 given how powerful it is. i felt if i went any higher than 2 i'd get a stern talking to 10:46 maybe monks should start with basic in whichever spell they start with? idk I guess people would be angry at no longer having basic in healing 10:47 maybe better to not change it 10:52 forgot about the gnomish wizards, walked around corner, instantly lost all my healing potions 10:54 gnomish wizard op! nerf gnomish wizard! 10:54 if they didn't stun lock they'd be alright, just gotta remember to drop all your stuff before finding them 10:54 i have seen exactly one scroll of charging in this game, and i had to poly 5-6 times to get that 10:55 amateurhour: i have started leaving all my potions and scrolls on the floor above minetown if i don't have a container 10:56 that's a good idea 10:57 also, idk if i just have rotten luck or maybe it's my imagination, but gnome wizard stun seems to last forever and they usually get in a second one before it expires 10:57 yeah, that happens to me a fair bit 10:57 supposed to be 4d4 but i swear it lasts longer 10:58 of course it happens most in minetown with a peaceful nearby so you just have to stand there and take it 10:59 can't just take wild swings because the watch captain wants to be cozy 10:59 "hi sailor! new in town?" 11:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3502 11:19 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:22 sucks when the stairs are in a really random part of the map 11:22 in the evilhack mines 11:23 I wonder if it's placing them on a random patch of shallow water 11:23 so when a river goes through and some of it is randomly shallow, it has new places to put the stairs 11:24 just a guess K2 but might be worth checking if it just checks for valid teleport destination or something^ 11:25 that'd somewhat explain how we can sometimes find the stairs totally surrounded in water 11:28 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 11:31 so i have 6 tins of tengu. i'm about to go find the vs. should i try the tengu lottery? 11:32 you feelin' lucky? 11:32 you forgot to say punk 11:32 you feelin' lucky punk? 11:33 FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC 11:33 new xnethack random scroll label? 11:33 :) 11:33 heh 11:34 it's from discworld 11:34 not a scroll label, it's in xnethack as a random engraving 11:37 You consume homemade tengu. You feel in control of yourself. 11:38 You consume homemade tengu. You feel very jumpy. 11:38 yeah, it does help mentally when you move from eating takeout all the time to cooking your own food... 11:39 it helps enormously and not just mentally. my own cooking is way tastier, not to mention healthier 11:39 too bad your own cooking is only worth 50 nutrition 11:39 just means i get to eat more of it! 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (orcs), on T:1 11:40 also now i can wear slow digestion so it goes a lot further 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57196 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57198 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 12:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14507 points, T:6043, killed by an elven king 12:23 whoops 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 13:01 -!- ghostpapper has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 36 points, T:140, killed by touching Snickersnee 13:09 noooo 13:11 punching red moulds smoulders gloves 13:11 that's pretty annoying 13:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:13 did you see the earlier message about mines stairs K2? 13:13 yeah 13:14 stairs surrounded by water isnt a bug 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1028 points, T:855, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 13:15 hobbit eat all your food? 13:15 I think he was angry because I had loads of food, wasn't sharing it, and mocking them by not eating it 13:16 what do you mean stairs surrounded by water isn't a bug? 13:16 it was elevensies 13:16 did you intend for that to happen? 13:16 you were like 'it would be great if the stairs would be in a random corner of the map surrounded on all sides by water'? 13:16 did i specifically say to myself 'ooh lets make all the stairs in the mines be surrounded by water' ? no 13:16 but if it happens, its not a bug 13:16 its jyst the way the river generated 13:17 *just 13:17 I think it adds the river, finds a random position that could be stood on, and puts the stairs there 13:17 but the river adds random squares in almost inaccessible places 13:17 the way I think it works - level is generated first, then the river 13:18