01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 194 points, T:529, killed by a dwarf lord 01:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3382 points, T:3693, killed by a barrow wight 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:51 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:55 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:58 K2 possible bug with Dragonbane? 05:00 I have been hitting a black dragon with dragonbane and got a message about dragonbane completely resisting disintegration 05:00 However, I just noticed Dragonbane is completely gone :-( 05:01 did you save/load? 05:01 and then noticed it gone 05:02 can't remember who, krm maybe, had their gloves deleted by the 'anticheat' stuff 05:02 when they reloaded the game, their gloves were marked as 'in-use' 05:02 I noticed it gone when a bolt of lightning vaporised one of my rings 05:03 I have save/loaded a couple of times 05:04 saw nothing about 'in-use', I don't think I have been disconnected either 05:04 time to check ttyrec 05:08 yeah 05:08 it's the same thing 05:08 same way krm had their gloves yeeted 05:08 Restoring save file... Finishing off Dragonbane...--More-- 05:11 krm's gloves were dragonbane too fwiw, wonder if they punched dragons 05:12 K2 you scammed another person out of dragonbane :( 05:24 ttyrec with the killing of the black dragon shows no problem 05:24 on to the next one 05:25 pause it at the first frame 05:25 when your save is restored 05:27 I see 05:27 inishing off Dragonbane... 05:27 yeah 05:27 scammed 05:27 ROBBED 05:28 I guess it wasn't added to the etherpad 05:28 at least we now know it had nothing to do with disconnecting? 05:28 probably because we all assumed drunk krm tripped vanilla anticheat stuff by not saving to end session 05:28 lol 05:30 "Dragonbane resists completely and cannot be disintegrated" perhaps not handled correctly? 05:30 sounds likely 05:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2462 points, T:2462, killed by a white unicorn 05:31 *doh*. Stupid. Wasn't paying attention. 05:31 Most of my deaths lately have been YASD's. 06:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2625 06:45 mobileuser, amateurhour i'm on it (the dragonbane thing) 06:45 :( 06:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5642 06:55 retrieved my good old shield of reflection from stash, no more twoweaponing 06:55 so you lost dragonbane but at least didnt get the 'finishing off' bit that krn26 ran into 06:56 I did? 06:56 K2 mobileuser did 06:56 Finishing off Dragonbane... 06:58 oh you did get that 06:58 but it didnt kill your game 06:58 No, I just lost Dragonbane 06:59 so did you get 'resists being disintigrated' and then right after 'dragon disintigrates' ? 06:59 *dragobane 06:59 *dragonbane 06:59 blaaaaah 06:59 i think i see it 06:59 good 06:59 Dragonbane was still fine in the session where I got the message "Dragonbane resists completely and cannot be disintegrated" 06:59 Start of next session it was gone. 07:00 amateurhour, look at uhitm.c start at line 3823 07:00 that block of code 07:00 tell me what you think is missing 07:00 A kingdom for a bag. 07:01 wanna see if you see the same thing i'm seeing 07:01 SEE 07:01 I'm at work atm so can't really look atm 07:02 K2: From the sounds of it, there must be a counter for the damage of an item, and you're decrementing it. Once it's zero or whatever, it's disintegrated, but look! You have a check for "cannot be disintegrated", so it survives, but it gets saved and recorded... And when you load it again, it sees that the damage counter is zero and is thus destroyed? 07:04 I don't see such counters, though... 07:08 i need to reorg that whole block of code i think 07:11 K2: I notice that objects that can't be disintegrated are actually in obj_resists, rather than uhitm. 07:14 Line 3858... Which 'if' does that 'else' map to? 07:15 if (carried(weapon)) 07:15 useup(weapon); 07:15 else 07:15 delobj(weapon); 07:15 Yeah, but the previous line is terminated by a semicolon... 07:16 if (cansee(mon->mx, mon->my)) 07:16 pline("%s disintegrates!", Yname2(weapon)); 07:16 thats fine 07:19 Ah, just checked - in C, the previous semicolon is required in that case. Cool, so that 'if' on line 3858 really does belong to the 'if (carried...' line. 07:19 That 'else' on line 3858, rather. 07:19 It's much easier to always use curly brackets. 07:20 My pascal experience mislead me there - in pascal, that semicolon changes things. 07:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:28 K2 that section is for "Humanoid monsters wearing various dragon scale/dragon scale mail armor"? 07:28 I was hitting a black dragon 07:29 K2: I wonder if it's possible to have it distintegrated in uhitm before that line 3823, eg, by hitting line 3786 07:31 I was wearing Black DSM btw, don't know if that is relevant 07:32 mobileuser: Curiously though, there's also an explicit check for dragonbane in destroy_arm. 07:33 Using if (uarmg && uarmg == otmp && otmp->oartifact == ART_DRAGONBANE) { ... "cannot be disintegrated" 07:34 i guess we all know who this is for : https://qunki.gumlet.io/postImg/78992/dog-memes-06.jpg 07:39 insufficient bobbling 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 0 points, T:2, killed by a system shock 07:40 mobileuser: There appears to be nothing in the code about dragonbane for a *monster* hitting you if you're wearing black DSM. 07:42 Hmm, except for maybe line 236 of mhitu.c 07:47 monster-on-monster attacks don't seem to check for dragonbane either. But that's not the case here either. 07:47 * arahael goes back to the game, and leaves better devs looking at this. :( 07:50 thx arahael for checking :-) 07:51 It might be a missing break or something, but I couldn't find any of those. 08:04 mobileuser oh 08:09 oh? 08:10 oooh 08:10 lol 08:10 i see something 08:11 i wish qt were here, he'd scan it over once, and in 3 sec say 'ah here' and then revamp the entire block of code in 60 sec 08:11 in which section? I wondered if the section at 4002 was relevant 08:12 same file, look at line 3951 08:12 in that block 08:12 if (!obj && mattk->adtyp == AD_ENCH) 08:12 obj = uarmg; /* no weapon? then must be gloves */ 08:12 oopsies 08:12 hmmm... 08:13 i forgot to account for AD_DISN 08:13 right 08:14 only accounts for disenchanter 08:15 ok i gotta leave my desk for a few. I shall return 08:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWvRi8AlL4Y 08:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a winter wolf cub corpse, on T:10110 08:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12603 08:48 I didn't think that through, I should've gotten the ". 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11351 points, T:5602, killed by a bolt of fire, while frozen by a potion 08:53 back 08:53 before i make any changes, i want to try and recreate it first 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 275 points, T:575, killed by a giant cockroach 08:54 justice for mobileuser 08:54 we play we say dragonbane for mobileuser today 08:54 \o/ 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:516 08:59 A zombie must've eaten my brain a bit, and I "forgot some of my training" - how do I get that back? 08:59 It seems I've been fighting monsters, but I can't #enchance it any more? 09:03 retrain? 09:04 yes 09:04 I assume you made a typo and you aren't actually trying "enchance" 09:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:14294 09:06 Well, I'm trying to #enchance, and I get the menu. 09:06 But there's no percentage next to the martial arts row. 09:06 Even though I've since killed a ton of monsters. 09:07 It's like I'm permanently at master, and I can't get back to grand master. 09:09 it feels like you have to train to grandmaster from 0 again 09:09 but it does eventually get back 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 892 points, T:1941, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:11 enhance not enchance? 09:12 amateurhour: Shouldnt' I be at least 1% of the way there? 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:48577 09:12 mobileuser: #enhance, either way it's obvious I'm in hte menu. :) 09:16 Well, that was nasty... Nymph level. Lost everything... 09:16 THen fell into a hole right into a shop... 09:16 Full of mimics and elves. 09:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 48157 points, T:15139, killed by a giant mimic 09:16 damn i see it 09:17 i seeeee it 09:17 K2: Yay. :) 09:17 brb 09:18 I think I'm slowly getting better at evilhack, this was a very good game, though rather a bit unfortunate that it ended here in this way. I had one blessed magic lamp (on the nymph level), and another in this shop. It could have been a very very good game. 09:18 Though, I suspect I mostly did particularly well because I lucked into good armour. :( 09:18 Did most of the game so far with AC:-9 09:20 yeah monks seem to be vulnerable to hard hitting monsters they can't get away from 09:21 (giant mimics, leocrottas) 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fido, her faithful little dog, on T:1203 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 262 points, T:1203, burned by a tower of flame 09:22 if you start with sleep they're okay 09:22 sucks to start with sleep as a giant, you can't really cast it 09:23 I probably should've cast sleep at it, but I didn't have a robe on. 09:23 arahael: have you tried slash'em yet? 09:23 amateurhour: I have not. 09:23 would you recommend slash'em or slashtem? 09:24 *slashthem 09:24 difficult question, slashthem is harder 09:24 but you like evilhack so I guess slashthem :P 09:24 lol 09:24 it's not that much harder really, just some annoying things 09:24 If slash'em is harder, I think I'll stick with evilhack, thankyouverymuch. 09:25 they're both easier than evilhack 09:25 by a lot 09:25 Heh, but do they have K2? 09:26 in slashthem blessed geno can be resisted 09:26 But one reason I do like evil, is that you never really know what's coming. 09:26 Oh, wow. 09:26 so for example I used 4 blessed genos on L, and only the bottom 2 liches got geno'd 09:27 and generally in slash'em and slashthem polypiling is nerfed 09:27 I don't do much polypiling, actually. 09:27 doesn't really matter in practise, there's so much loot 09:27 bit like dnh 09:27 Indeed. 09:31 amateurhour uhitm.c starting at line 3516 09:31 that whole block 09:31 whats wrong 09:31 which version, 0.6? 09:31 either 09:31 master branch 09:34 mihgt be too tired to see it 09:34 if (uarmg) { 09:34 if (rn2(2) && (uarmg->oerodeproof 09:34 || is_supermaterial(uarmg))) 09:34 pline("%s being disintegrated!", 09:34 Yobjnam2(uarmg, "resist")); 09:34 else 09:34 (void) destroy_arm(uarmg); 09:34 } 09:34 break; 09:34 /kb K2 spamming 09:34 dragonhide is a supermaterial so you're getting 50% chance to resist 09:34 otherwise, poof 09:35 its not taking special case dragonbane into account 09:35 oh right, epic 09:35 but how does that explain the in_use flag being set 09:35 [08:12] <@K2> same file, look at line 3951 09:35 [08:12] <@K2> in that block 09:35 [08:12] <@K2> if (!obj && mattk->adtyp == AD_ENCH) 09:35 [08:12] <@K2> obj = uarmg; /* no weapon? then must be gloves */ 09:35 [08:12] <@K2> oopsies 09:35 ^ that bit i believe 09:36 does the in_use flag get set by destroy_arm, then the thing doesn't get destroyed, leaving flag still set? 09:36 AD_DISN isnt being accounted for 09:36 guessing it's to prevent people hanging up whilst armour being destroyed by destroy armour spell and keeping their armour 09:38 why is there a comment: [this first bit is obsolete; we're not called with Null anymore] 09:39 that's vanilla to guard against no object 09:40 presumably there's no cases left in the code that could cll passive_obj(foo, 0, bar) 09:40 I wonder if the pain and suffering caused by the concept of a null pointer is quantifiable 09:40 like, globally over all time 09:40 billion dollar mistake 09:40 kek 09:41 > I call it my billion-dollar mistake. It was the invention of the null reference in 1965. 09:41 i made this whole block too complex 09:41 redo time 09:41 amateurhour: i think billion-dollar is underselling it 09:41 im thinking more double or triple-digit billions 09:42 I don't really see it as a mistake, just a budget optional type 09:42 budget without type safety 09:42 yeah it's not really a mistake? even if you don't have null pointers, you still have to have invalid pointers somehow 09:43 some langs have type systems that force you to check tho 09:43 like in haskell one would use the Maybe a type, or Rust one would use Optional or what have you now 09:43 like Rust's Option 09:43 Option* 09:43 think it's c++ with optional 09:44 imagine thinking null-pointers aren't a mistake 09:44 :P 09:49 Yeah, some languages use "optional" values instead. And the compiler can check them for you very very well. 09:49 (Eg, haskell, rust, swift, etc) 09:49 Kotlin too, I think. 09:50 strongly typed language [Drake looking perturbed] 09:50 stringly typed language [Drake looking enthused] 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided vampire mages, on T:50106 10:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:34731 10:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity named ScammedOutOfDragonbane", on T:34745 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:50158 10:20 I don't really understand the if (!obj && mattk->adtyp == AD_ENCH) etc bit, if obj was null then you would eventually return and never get to the Dragonbane "cannot be disintegrated" part 10:21 but since I got that message, obj can't have been null 10:23 So the missing case AD_DISN after AD_ENCH can't have been relevant? 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6396 10:27 mobileuser: Undefined behaviour. 10:27 (Or is it?) 10:28 Do we later dereference it without checking for null in the interim? 10:29 there is: if (!obj) return; 10:29 does anything reassign to obj elsewhere after that check 10:30 no 10:32 at the start of the function there is: 10:32 if (!obj) { 10:32 obj = (u.twoweap && uswapwep && !rn2(2)) ? uswapwep : uwep; 10:32 if (!obj && mattk->adtyp == AD_ENCH) 10:32 obj = uarmg; /* no weapon? then must be gloves */ 10:32 if (!obj) 10:32 return; /* no object to affect */ 10:32 } 10:32 K2 worries about a missing check on AD_DISN 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire bat, on T:5058 10:33 but since we must have gone past that code, obj can't have been null, so that must have been irrelevant? 10:34 about to test my changes 10:34 been working on this on/off for last hour heh 10:34 damn work keeps getting in the way 10:34 heh 10:34 i'm fixing other things i'm noticing in this whole passive disint bit 10:35 i wrote more code than i needed to initially 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7201 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:7215 10:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a shito entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6166 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 0 points, T:56, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 10:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3478 points, T:6969, killed by an elven king 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10177 points, T:8655, killed by an ogre lady 10:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) wished for "very fixed thoroughly holy rustproof empty locked very very +5 dragonhide boots of water walking named floaty flipflops prop. j. h. c.", on T:50791 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 80 points, T:243, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 11:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:30 all, i'll have a fix today, for server version as well as 0.7.0 11:30 damn you work! leave me alone 11:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 490 points, T:2738, killed by a giant ant 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3040 points, T:2789, killed by a giant mosquito 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1556 points, T:2036, killed by a killer bee 12:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 766 points, T:2147, killed by a werejackal, while praying 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 128 points, T:378, killed by a mithril arrow 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2934 12:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3275 12:55 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1389 points, T:3149, killed by a lesser nightmare 13:21 hah... working on this, I've discovered that other passive attacks werent affecting objects when they should have 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 465 points, T:231, killed by a bolt of fire 13:47 "other passive attacks werent affecting objects when they should have" uh oh... 13:49 this is ur punishment for not being silent when K2 was robbing u 13:49 ^ amateurhour's fault 13:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9512 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51845 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51848 14:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a vellum spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:11371 14:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a steel staff entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:12172 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:22 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 324 points, T:1798, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 316 points, T:1543, killed by a small mimic 14:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 326 points, T:1513, killed by a giant spider 15:09 k2: i somehow went from expert to skilled in hammer and now i can't train it 15:10 flayer attack prior? 15:10 i have to think yes. a master mind flayer got next to me and i thought i teleported it away before it got in a hit, but now this 15:11 the only way currently you can lose skill is from a head attack from a flayer/alhoon/zombie 15:11 hmm, did you happen to read a scroll of amnesia at any point? 15:12 fine, it must have hit me. how can i train it back? i've been brain-sucked before but i never had any problems training back up 15:12 definitely did not read such a scroll 15:12 you would just keep using that skill 15:12 yes i've done that for a while and there's no % next to hammer and 15:13 which is why i brought it up 15:13 hmm 15:13 i'll look into it 15:13 i think arahael(?) also noticed this recently 15:13 or was it mobileuser 15:14 ty. it's not a big deal for me in this game i think, but it does look like a bug 15:14 ok 15:14 its on the pad 15:15 oh and fuck vlad. his amulet of lifesving is cursed 15:15 not that i'd wear one 15:16 i keep finding flying and each time a tear comes to my eye 15:16 finally got the castle wand (0:1), so I've got 4 solid wishes ahead of me. 15:16 mine also was 0:1. must have been a sale 15:17 woop 15:17 fixing this dragonbane thing, noticed all sorts of other issue and missing things from black dragon passive disint attack 15:17 I'm pretty set with current weapons and accoutrements, but considering springing for mithril large splint mail of esp just for that poor-man's-astral effect 15:18 what about grey dragons? 15:18 you have drain res? 15:18 via excal 15:18 ah right 15:18 that's probably better have a secondary for, actually 15:18 the balrog's bullwhip rips excalibur from your hands! 15:18 ya, it's already happened a couple times 15:18 :D 15:19 was especially concerning when tsurugi of muramasa was yanked free! 15:19 fortunately it fell to my feet 15:19 K2 it was arahael who reported the same problem with training 15:19 AC is -41, but I could get closer to -50 with dragonhide speed boots (if such a thing exists) 15:19 dragonhide speed boots exist 15:20 any worthwhile difference between -41 and -50? 15:20 you have half damage? 15:20 no. That would require an artifact and I've got enough that I think the wish might be wasted 15:21 lower ac is always a Good Thing™ 15:21 aren't there significantly diminishing returns past -30? 15:21 oh I was confused about tsurugi 15:22 in evilhack I try to get to -50 but I'm not sure if that is paranoia 15:22 well i'm ac -33 and no prospect of getting any better, so that better be enough. i do have gjallar 15:23 gjallar is half damage 15:23 i should hope so 15:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:20975 15:25 what are my chances with 6 artifacts already? 15:25 interesting, the list of artifacts doesn't show all of them 15:25 in my game 15:25 not identified them all? 15:25 ah, not formally 15:25 sunsword and frostbrand are in a box 15:25 but not formally id'd 15:26 chances for arti-wishing are the same as in vanilla 15:26 dude. i had two artifacts. my wish failed :( 15:26 so probably no chance :( 15:26 with 6? it'd be a miracle 15:27 I'm saving my last wish for a c corpse for astral if I even make it 15:27 NOOOOOOO! 15:27 no? 15:27 indeed 15:27 that last wish if for carl 15:27 no 15:27 :-) 15:27 oh 15:27 is 15:27 ... 15:27 uhm 15:27 that's your meme. I'll have to name my cockatrice something. 15:27 I was going to say, the rubber chicken sucks in evilhack 15:28 really sucks 15:28 only 75% chance to hit, multi-turn stoning (i think 3 turns) 15:28 never bothered. Is to-hit based on something different? 15:28 and a high level monster can cast stf 15:28 in any case, I'd like to avoid being encumbered as much as possible. I think a safe wish is the mithril body armor. 15:29 in evilhack, using anything that isn't a weapon has at best 75% chance to hit 15:29 absolutely go for the mithril large splint mail! 15:29 that includes potions of paralysis 15:30 should I say "fixed" mithril or is that redundent? 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril +2 large splint mail", on T:60048 15:30 yeah, redundant for mithril 15:30 nothing repeated is redundant 15:31 wow, what a difference! So nice an light now 15:31 did you forget the object prop? :-( 15:31 yup 15:31 it was just for backup anyway. 15:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:21607 15:31 live and learn 15:32 at least you can finally get rid of that super heavy starting splint mail :-) 15:36 found my old bones so I have 2 pairs of heavy large mail for backup 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22757 15:39 some of the demon lords have a special fire attack, right? Does having a ring of fire resist help? 15:42 or whatever diminished me to nothing when orcus and yeenoghu showed up. I need to avoid that encounter again! 15:45