00:01 aaaand gnite 00:22 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:51292 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51294 00:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:27 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:52429 01:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Feya (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1076 points, T:1971, killed by a giant beetle, while sleeping 02:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:30279 04:36 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 04:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:5818 04:37 Uhh... Fortune cookies aren't vegan, either? 04:37 Curious. :) 04:37 they're a trap 04:40 Yeah, pretty sure they're vegan these days, at least in Australia. 04:41 Apparently some contain egg. 04:54 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:02 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 05:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) had an axe entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:30572 05:16 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a white unicorn, on T:8753 05:23 Stupid wand. 05:24 I had some highly enchanted gear on, as well. 05:27 Lost *all* the good stuff. +4 mithril helm. +2 gloves. +2 robe. +0 mithril boots... 05:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 22746 points, T:8779, killed by a straw golem, while praying 05:28 Man, that was a good game. 06:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:31987 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:14 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:36 do gods ever give you rings or amulets as sac gifts? those could be nice intermediate items between a random piece of armor and an artifact 08:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) had a leather jacket entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:32689 08:39 no, it's artifact or armor or weapon 08:40 I am building up quite the collection of junk gifts 08:43 qt - primary spellcasting types will sometimes receive a spellbook 08:43 not just on prayer? 08:44 right 08:45 the "reconcilation" timeout after receiving a gift varies wildly 08:45 reconciliation even 08:45 depends what you sac 08:46 but yeah the timeout inbetween is variable 08:46 same as vanilla chocolate strawberry 08:46 yum 08:48 right, enough with the camping. time to stash the loot and pay medusa a visit. 08:49 this is one of those games where nobody has a tele wand, not even the NPCs 08:49 boycoot on tele wands started yesterday 08:49 boycot 08:49 lol 08:50 heh 08:50 ewww 08:50 boycooties 08:51 hah 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:57140 09:08 I wish the magic 8-ball answers were in ALL CAPS like a real magic 8-ball 09:08 if only there was a wandering ronin 09:08 THERE IS NO JUSTICE. THERE IS JUST ME AND MY ICOSAHEDRON. 09:10 !8ball should magic 8-ball answers be in ALL CAPS 09:10 qt: Ask again later 09:10 🤔 09:17 this is a more refined 8ball 09:18 !8ball are you a more refined 8ball 09:18 qt: It is decidedly so 09:18 wow 09:18 8ball has a big ego 09:21 qt doesnt lie 09:21 neither does 8ball 09:26 -!- telegarn has joined #evilhack 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:57862 09:34 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:34 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #56: Magic 8-Ball tweaks - https://git.io/Jtj3A 09:39 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:40 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 760838 points, T:58077, killed by Kathryn the Enchantress 09:44 hah qt you beat me to it 09:45 a couple times i've thought about scrapping the switch case for that (i think aosdict yelled at me once about it) 09:45 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:46 ooof dbanethacker 09:46 why piss off the enchantress? 09:46 !lastgame dbanethacker 09:46 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1614283573.evil.html 09:47 iirc if you throw a potion of acid at the bars, and it misses the bars/goes through and then hits pegasus 09:47 it will aggro Kathryn 09:47 maybe that's what happened 09:47 oh damn really 09:47 let me double check, I think I remember that... 09:48 guess you'll need to be careful when doing that, make sure the pegasus isnt lined up with the bars 09:48 it'd be better to wield the potion and forcefight the bars anyways yeah? 09:48 yeah or you can just wield the potion and force-fight the bar 09:48 yeah 09:51 it does happen https://0x0.st/-K74.png 09:51 unknown wand, would this finally be teleport 09:51 ? 09:52 it will aggro her if you accidentally hit pegasus 09:52 cool 09:52 Y - a wand of wishing (1:2) what a disappointment :b 09:52 *as it should* 09:52 lol mobileuser 09:52 bummer mobileuser :( 09:52 \o/ 09:53 thank you gelcube for dropping that 09:53 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:54 The RNG hath decreed that this item was never generated: wand of teleportation 09:54 lol 09:54 copy some slex code K2, you know you want to :P 09:54 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:56 heh 09:56 get thee behind me, satan 10:02 Xiuhcoatl, when you have enough dex, does it always return when thrown? 10:02 or is it like Mjollnir and the aklys? 10:02 same odds as mjollnir 10:03 when your dex is 18+ 10:03 ah shame 10:03 can't risk throwing it at Kathryn 10:04 she might not give it back 10:04 99% chance you get it back 10:04 yolo 10:04 yeah those odds are not good enough ;-) 10:05 heh 10:07 qt i'm not sure I like the all caps bit for the 8-ball responses 10:08 ok np I'll ditch it 10:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:33553 10:09 done 10:09 thanks 10:10 whenever i see all caps i fell like i'm being yelled at heh 10:11 K2 10:11 ^this was yelling 10:11 i hate you 10:11 join the lowercase club, all the cool kids have lowercase nicks 10:12 rest of the PR is great qt 10:12 the irl magic 8-ball doesn't exactly use all-caps either 10:12 it uses small caps instead of lowercase letters 10:12 but there is a distinction between the 'A' and the rest of the letters in "AS I SEE IT YES" 10:12 As ɪ sᴇᴇ ɪᴛ ʏᴇs 10:12 the owner of the company i work for, when he sends out emails, its all caps and the entire message *is in the subject line* 10:13 plus he cant spell or use grammar for shit 10:13 (not that i'm one to talk) 10:13 nice 10:14 and he insists on using AOL 10:15 i just told mini-me i'm renaming her to 'Carl' 10:15 'i'm not CARL!!' 10:17 As ɪ sᴇᴇ ɪᴛ ʏᴇs <--- too bad nethack cant render that as-is 10:17 THAT would be cool 10:19 I can't even see it in weechat lol I pasted it from somewhere else 10:19 https://0x0.st/-K7I.png 10:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of flying", on T:34273 10:25 heh 10:26 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JtjcA 10:26 [EvilHack] entrez bf23ef3 - Organize Magic 8-Ball answers in array 10:26 [EvilHack] entrez c9e66fb - Avoid hardcoding "Magic 8-Ball" name 10:26 [EvilHack] k21971 f9fc485 - Merge pull request #56 from entrez/magic-8ball-tweaks 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34469 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:46605 11:21 K2: fyi I just added a bunch of stuff from a list I have been keeping locally to the etherpad, idk if you saw my message in #xnethack but basically the same thing as that 11:21 when I notice a potential issue I write it down in a text document, not sure whether some of these have already been fixed or are deliberate -- some are a few months old I think 11:52 just saw it 11:52 had another interview for our help desk position, it actually went well for a change 11:53 the guy interviewing was on 'forged in fire' 11:53 love that show 11:55 is that the one where they make sword 11:55 s 11:56 yup 11:56 knives, swords, axes, all sorts of stuff 11:56 mostly blades 11:58 see if he will make you a Grayswandir 11:58 want 11:58 the show he was on, he lost 11:58 but he did make it to the end (2nd place) 11:59 well Grayswandir might be aiming too high then, maybe Werebane would be a more reasonable expectation 12:00 tsurgi! 12:08 OMG qt all these new things under 'bugs to fix' 12:08 :P 12:08 idk if they are really all bugs per se, they are just notes I wrote down about things I noticed 12:09 feel free to move them around to the appropriate categories if some are in the wrong place 12:09 I just have everything in a single text file and I copied it all wholesale to one place 12:09 i was messing with you. you know that right? :) 12:09 i'll file them under 'things to blame amateurhour for' 12:10 lol I'm a little jumpy because I put the equivalent list in the wrong place in the xnh etherpad 12:10 I don't want to screw up the way you have it organized or anything 12:12 you and aosdict each have your own systems of etherpad organization and I'm not privy to that arcane knowledge 12:12 me neither 12:12 lol 12:12 :) 12:14 those are some intersting bugs 12:14 interesting 12:24 they're all pretty minor, some of them are arguably not even bugs lol 12:25 anything really concerning I encounter I usually make a PR to fix it, so these are kind of the dregs of my "things I noticed while playing" file 12:25 perfect 12:26 fuzzing only catches so much 12:31 a lot of bugs that have made it onto the etherpad come from player feedback 12:50 qt I was kidding 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:47408 13:01 did I not put it in the wrong place? i knew you were kidding to some extent but I figured there really was an order to things that I had interfered with (in a very minor and easily reversible way) 13:03 it was sort of like "nice release checklist you got there, here's a bunch more stuff to put on it" :P 13:03 but in reality most of that would go under non savebreaking bugfixes, which I assume most of those were 13:05 I did include a couple tentative patches for things in the xnh list (unlike the evilhack list) so at least you have a leg up on K2 there lol 13:06 thank you mr ronin 13:06 and several of them are not really bugs but something closer to feature suggestions tbh 13:21 K2 I don't understand what "Fix: timed clairvoyance, add 'quick_farsight' option." means for the player 13:21 How does it help with "I" markers appearing? 13:23 enabling quick_farsight means that when you have the amulet and you get periodic "you sense your surroundings" stuff, it doesn't stop the game and require you to hit esc 13:24 instead all the detected stuff will just appear without pausing and going into farlook mode 13:24 at least that's how it works in 3.7.0 13:25 I don't think it prevents I markers from appearing, it just moves most of the clairvoyance effects to the background as it were 13:32 ok thanks! but then it sounds it would still be nice to have a command to wipe all the unwanted I markers from he screen 13:34 you can take code for that from a certain variant 13:34 :^) 13:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:10 You start playing your Gjallar. 14:11 Since gjallar is unique, this should probably say the gjallar or just gjallar 14:11 awesome tones, dude 14:26 -!- yoshida_kawasaki has joined #evilhack 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:32367 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:50158 14:40 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 14:55 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 14:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:57 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 15:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:06 so i can't see invisible? wtf is that 15:07 i feel like mobileuser is to blame? 15:08 don't magic traps toggle see invisible sometimes? 15:09 yeah they do now 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:38342 15:10 so I guess you can solve magic eye gaze with wand of invisibility now, til you hit the next magic trap, maybe? 15:11 (for example) 15:12 !whereis rebatela 15:12 tinklebear: rebatela is not playing. 15:12 !who 15:12 tinklebear: [hdf-us] qt [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players 15:12 ah. wrong channel 15:23 ah the monk bug fix 15:24 I didn't know about the bug and tried in vain to get see invisible back, only to lose it again every time 15:26 whaaat? 15:26 you didn't catch the story? 15:28 guess not! 15:29 so I lost see invis to a trap. saved and loaded. what I didn't know was that because of a bug, see invis was then restored for monks. 15:29 so I tried the trap again 15:29 ah, I see 15:29 lost see invis again 15:30 so then I had no idea anymore what was going on 15:30 lol 15:30 heh 15:30 evil. says it right on the tin! 15:31 heh 15:31 [backscoll] mobileuser i may still add that 'get rid of the I's' thing 15:31 i need to play with it 15:31 \o/ 15:32 play some infidel 15:32 oh i know with .6.0 its bad 15:32 with 0.7 its more betterly 15:32 ^ amateurhour pay attention, i might actually add slex code 15:33 suddenly the dungeon trembles. you hear someone scream! 15:33 aaaaahhhhh 15:34 It's The Black Beast of Aaaaaargghh 15:34 :) 15:35 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 15:35 qt nice fix for the spear trap feedback 15:36 k2 hits! k2 bites! k2 casts aspersions on your ancestry. severe wounds appear on your psyche 15:36 those come from sporkhack - the current code is actually an improvement over what was in sporkhack 15:38 :P 15:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44 30xp monk should be able to inately see invisible... just saying 15:44 what do i have to do drink the potion? 15:44 fun 15:44 i'll go do that 15:45 they do. dont lose the intrinsic 15:45 do the monsters lose their ability because of something mobileuser said? no. they still see invisible 15:45 well i just see numbers now 15:45 4 . i'm fighitng 4's blindly 15:45 I didn't spend 30 years at the monastery training to open my third eye just to have it removed by a piddly lil trap 15:45 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jtj18 15:45 [EvilHack] k21971 01dd14e - Fix: feedback with spear traps and flying steeds. 15:45 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 15:45 thankyou amateurhour :) 15:46 don't you have a stethoscope? 15:46 i did i dropped all my gear and stuffed bones. i quit this game 15:46 j/k 15:47 dude. you think youhave it rough? do get me started on my current game 15:47 er don't 15:47 who is that always played healears and applied stethoscope every turn? bouqeut? or was it you hotrhaxxa? someone does it out of habit 15:47 i do 15:47 i don't think i have it rough at all... lol 15:47 not every turn but most for sure 15:47 yeah it is you ! 15:47 lol 15:48 haha like instead of searching for doors. i should do the same thing because it saves a turn 15:48 smart 15:48 its a free turn 15:48 surpassed 11,000 commits 15:48 weeeee 15:48 yeah it's a free search and it's 100% for secret doors and blocked passges 15:50 It doesn't exercise wisdom like searching does, though 15:50 For whatever that's worth 15:52 for other roles I usually try to get an ESP item if I lose see invis, but it can be difficult if you also need drain res 15:53 my monk started using a shield of ESP, bu then I don't play weaponless 15:55 -!- yoshida_kawasaki has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55 -!- saeed has joined #evilhack 15:55 -!- saeed has quit [Excess Flood] 15:55 -!- saeed has joined #evilhack 15:59 -!- saeed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- is_SAEED has joined #evilhack 16:01 Umbire: just existing exercises wisdom 16:01 True 16:01 almost, anyway. losing the wisdom exercise from stethoscope use is trivial 16:02 you are correct of course, but i don't think it's an issue 16:03 i was surprised when i discovered that wisdom influences valkyrie casting success 16:04 probably because my valks almost never trying to cast 16:04 -ing 16:05 when xhnethack first was released and aosdict hadn't yet tuned his spellcating algorithm, i ascended a valk as a spellcaster. that was fun 16:05 i don't think valks can do that any more in xnh 16:14 hah qt was fixing that as you were typing 16:14 (etherpad) 16:15 nice 16:15 like, verbatim 16:15 -!- is_SAEED has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15 -!- is_SAEED has joined #evilhack 16:16 -!- is_SAEED has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtjyD 16:17 [EvilHack] k21971 009ac1f - Fix: You start playing your Gjallar. 16:17 isn't it a new thing thouigh? I've ascendedd like 4 or 5 times and am only now noticig not being able to see insbisble 16:17 typos i'm a little messed up but you know what i mean 16:18 rebatela: monks still get see invis. there was a bug previously where losing see invis (which can happen from a magic trap) wouldn't "stick" for monks 16:18 yup 16:18 after a monk lost see invis, saving and reloading would restore it 16:18 all you'd have to do before is save/reload 16:18 oh so you 'fixed" this? sorry mobileuser 16:18 that bug was fixed, that's all 16:19 why can't i see invisible again? i hit a trap? 16:19 that's never happened before until recently. explain again 16:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:22168 16:19 basically magic traps can toggle see invis 16:20 not guaranteed 16:20 i've played as much evilhack as anyone. i die a lot. but i play a lot. and this is a new thing i only see numbers 16:20 it really sucks 16:20 until very recently, monks would get see invis back every time they saved/loaded 16:20 so it was supposed to be that way the whole time? 16:20 yes 16:20 qt fixed it? 16:20 so you'd not noticed before probably because of that 16:20 yeah 16:20 a magic trap can take away/give back see invis 16:20 no i fixed it 16:20 imotbh tbhimo if you get it at levelup you should just keep it... 16:21 (or start with it) 16:21 i dont bother id'd $50 potiojs 16:21 potions 16:21 now i have to so i cant quaff a blessed see invisible ? and i'll be good? 16:22 potion effects are only temporary 16:22 amateurhour: why should intrinsic role-based see invisible be immutably bestowed, but not intrinsic role-based speed? 16:22 it's how it works in vanilla already with gremlins 16:22 yup 16:22 they can steal role-based intrinsics 16:22 this taste like slime mold juice! 16:22 is it that poition? 16:23 well those potions suck anyway 16:23 can you still get crowned? 16:23 that feedback can be either fruit juice or see invis 16:23 I got see invis from crowning on my current run 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a scale mail entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:22727 16:23 seems to be permanent 16:24 you guys suck for being like hey k2 i notided that if a 30 lvl monk hits a magic trap they don't lose see invisilble and l3 goes and fixes. 16:24 well, until I step on a magic trap ;) 16:24 who's TEAM ARE YOU ON?? 16:24 yeah until you hit a magic trap qt 16:24 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 16:24 oh I am typing too slowly :-) 16:25 qt is on the other side... careful what you say on here... 16:25 ;) 16:25 rebatela: if you lack see invisible, you can snarf archon gaze with a wand. isn't that a good upside? 16:25 well rebatela I didn't know about the bug 16:25 rebatela: you know how when growing up you had a parent or relative or whoever that told you 'if you did something bad and I find out about it before you tell me, you're really gonna be in trouble' 16:25 same thing :P 16:25 hehe 16:25 i'm just kidding around 16:25 good point 16:25 flolop 16:25 k2 sometimes we pm each other about strategies... 16:25 you got big ears.. 16:26 but have you been crowned yet rebatela? 16:26 i don't think so 16:26 i'm on no one's side but sloppy code and bad design 16:26 lol 16:26 no gods, no master branches 16:26 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbirwe 16:27 as I said earlier :) 16:27 I wouldn't say immutably bestowed tinklebear, just not being a part of the magic trap lottery 16:27 for other roles always get crowned mainly for the see invis 16:27 gremlins should be able to steal it still 16:27 sorry for slow replies, am playing d&d 16:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27 -!- Umbirwe is now known as Umbire 16:27 are you sliding the DM zorkmids under the table? 16:27 like in someone's mom's basement? with dice an stuff amatuerhour? 16:28 that's mad cool 16:28 alas we're having to do it over roll20 because of lockdown 16:28 -!- Yushida has joined #evilhack 16:28 where are you again? uk? 16:28 yeah 16:28 word 16:29 amateurhour: okay, I see your point. 16:29 (and I hate it.) 16:29 :D 16:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:36741 16:30 :D 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23587 16:31 hi 16:31 Hello Yushida, Welcome to #evilhack 16:31 hello Yushida 16:32 Hi 16:32 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:50619 16:33 oh no i'm invisible. that sucks too 16:33 when you want things to chase 16:33 or go in a shop 16:33 it's ok now 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:38443 16:34 hell yeah, hothraxxa! 16:35 i needed to get that back because str and con maxed at 18 and 16 can't carry shit 16:35 bag* 16:35 -!- Yushida has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:35 -!- Yushida has joined #evilhack 16:36 i like the ice queen level. it can be hard 16:37 yeah i got chased out of there the first time because i was stupid and tried to do it without reflection 16:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:44 -!- Yushida_ has joined #evilhack 16:45 -!- Yushida__ has joined #evilhack 16:46 -!- Yushida has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49 -!- Yushida_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) wished for "historic very uncursed diluted locked lit fixed thoroughly magic marker named speedball crowquill for writing quickly but in an elegant hand", on T:50725 16:52 k2 can koa die? becasue pegasus here has got him down to 7 hp 16:53 nm i penned up pegasus 16:54 no 16:55 my pets always get into it with the dogs 16:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36985 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided doppelgangers, on T:50748 16:58 fuckers 16:59 I've had it up to here with the mutha f'ing dopplegangers in this mutha f'ing dungeon 17:01 are beholders harmless if you're blind? Can I whack it to death with impunity if I'm wearing a blindfold? 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:38510 17:02 The gnomish wizard casts a spell at the spotted jelly! The spotted jelly flollops! 17:02 ^ qt 17:02 lol 17:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/Jtj73 17:03 [EvilHack] k21971 5833c24 - The spotted jelly flollops! 17:04 bouquet: I think you're safe if you are blind, but that is just from my personal experience 17:04 so I'm not certain 17:04 bouquet not harmless but much less deadly for sure 17:04 they bite hard 17:06 i just make myself blind whenever i see a 5 and whack whatever it is to death 17:07 I'm mostly concerned about passive stoning or disintegration. Those effects are only from the gaze? 17:07 yeah 5 is usualy beholder no? 17:07 when it doesn't go away 17:08 last one took at least 100 arrows. I'd rather just go up and whack it if possible 17:08 if your AC is good enough just whack them blind 17:09 beholder will always show as a 5 no matter what 17:09 via warning 17:09 golems do too 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:67144 17:24 oops 17:27 fuck beholders. this one cancelled my nice blessed +7 silver daggers before i could kill it 17:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:37562 17:29 I wonder what happens if you defeat Kathryn and immediately die from a pet dog bite before she has given her speech 17:30 qt how did that happen?? 17:31 now I am a dragon and I'm starving to death, if I starve as a dragon do I go back to human form 17:31 mobileuser: was polypiling and the wand backfired because it was cursed 17:31 aaah... 17:31 BUC check all wands always 17:32 stupid part is I knew it was cursed... I just figured "hey, it has 4 charges left, what are the odds one of those is gonna backfire" 17:32 lol 17:32 I lost a dragonhide cloak of protection too >:( 17:32 -!- Yushida__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:33 oof 17:33 shouldn't a dragonhide cloak merge with your body too, like dragon scale mail does? it's dragonhide after all 17:34 I guess that's just not the way it works though 17:35 works in xnethack ;) 17:36 dragonhide cloak will merge with your body aosdict? 17:36 that's cool 17:36 xnethack doesn't have dragonhide cloaks except for sets of scales 17:36 oh 17:36 false advertising 17:37 >:( 17:37 I'll see you in court 17:37 if I allowed dragonhide cloaks they would probably work the same as evilhack 17:37 ok donald trump 17:37 qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dragonhide bean bag 17:38 and qt is a Sam because of course, he is a PR ronin... 17:38 I have never laid eggs before, is there anything special I have to do to hatch them? 17:38 don't put them inside a container 17:38 sorry I just read that sentence in a totally non nethack context and I'm cracking up 17:38 lol 17:39 and don't let the first one that hatches eat the rest 17:39 (if you leave them on the ground) 17:39 wait how would it eat the rest tinklebear? do I need to leave them on the floor? 17:39 I have them in my inventory rn 17:39 inventory is fine. and safer 17:40 (safer from being eaten, at least) 17:42 if you do want to postpone their hatching for a later time, then put them in a container, and then when you do want to hatch them, take them out and zap with undead turning 17:42 oh interesting 17:42 thanks tinklebear 17:43 neat 17:46 it is nice to have options! 17:46 qt: I always play female characters specifically in the off-chance I end up polymorphed as a dragon I can then hatch a brood of pet dragons. 17:47 very helpful for early game, not so much later 17:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JtjFw 17:47 [EvilHack] k21971 5c11cb0 - Small chance a player monster's container is a bag of tricks. 17:47 fun for the whole family 17:49 qt - intelligent pet stashes stuff in its bag but then drops said bag a few turns later. much like any pet will do. where exactly is this behavior defined? dogmove.c ? 17:49 like a trip to the bouncy castles 17:49 and would have to be careful adjusting this, what if a pet grabs a bag from a shop but then never drops it 17:50 and its the bag of holding you wanted for your birthday 17:50 wow. 17:50 Shambling horror was a mix of nymph and cthulhu 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 182431 points, T:36259, killed by a shambling horror, while taking off clothes 17:50 heh 17:50 evil 17:51 brb 17:51 in one turn it stole my weapons, ripped of my clothes, ate my brains, and crushed me. 17:51 I hate evilhack (promptly starts another game...) 17:52 K2: not sure where the behavior is defined... maybe instead of preventing them from dropping the bag, pets should just not stash things in bags? 17:52 :) 17:52 I agree it could be very annoying for your pet to steal your bag 17:53 alternatively you could steal aosdict's system that lets you loot your pet's inventory, in which case you'd be able to grab it back from them 17:53 not a bad idea 17:53 amateurhour suggested the same awhile back 17:53 'less sad for much good' 17:53 lol 17:54 bouquet - could rename shambling horror to 'crazy ex girlfriend' 17:54 K2: if you do, it should probably significantly reduce their taming. 17:54 daddy stole my squeaky toy! 17:54 tame -1 17:54 good idea 17:55 K2: hmm. you didnt just make that up, did you? ;) 17:55 :P 17:55 once again only considering my ideas when qt brings them up :P 17:55 pls no steal everything I make 17:55 I see who you like more 17:55 K2: too close to reality 17:55 aww antwon... dont be mad 17:55 actually wait that was about dtsund-dsm. the pet looting is fine 17:56 bouquet: K2 regularly steals squeeky toys from you?! 17:56 K2: adding crazy ex (prefer gender neutral) as bogusmon 17:56 https://i.redd.it/xq2favbbsdd21.jpg 17:56 its not my fault I'm so lovable amateurhour 17:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAYvVIFRoNk 17:57 aosdict i actually made a note on the pad not to touch dtsund-dsm until late this year or early next 17:57 arahael: he steals my virtual sanity by making eh so eeeeeevil 17:57 i gotchu boo 17:58 I like the idea of stealing from your pet reducing its tameness, but it could be a problem with inediate pets if there's no way to bring it back up 17:58 I thought you weren't particularly interested in dtsund-dsm anyway 17:58 i sorta was 17:58 and then i read more about it 17:58 maybe on the flipside giving things to your pets would increase tameness? 17:58 and got more excited 17:59 * K2 gives amateurhour (pet archon) a snickers bar 17:59 tame +1 17:59 qt: at random, not everytime 17:59 maybe only taking things they would otherwise keep reduces it 17:59 otherwise it'd be way to easy to increase tameness 17:59 and giving things they want increases it 18:00 amateurhour when you start wearing cats as a booble hat is when i'll love you as much as qt 18:00 need pics as proof 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 but in evilhack you're supposed to wish for your whole kit! how can the players live with a system that encourages found objects??? 18:01 ikr?? 18:01 wearing... cats? 18:01 qt you still have the pic? 18:01 the cat is actually on my head right now lol 18:01 SEE 18:02 https://0x0.st/-Prn.jpg 18:02 that link looks a little sus 18:02 Prn 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 380 points, T:797, killed by a water moccasin 18:02 lol 18:02 I'm pretty sure that's against 0x0.st's policies 18:03 cute lil friendly guy 18:03 the ice queen just lol'ed at that pic 18:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:03 wearing cats isn't the hard part, the hard part is the bobble 18:03 i think i have that same rug 18:04 but do you have the same hat 18:04 no. i wish though 18:04 mono-in-law is allergic to those hats 18:04 *mom 18:04 dunno how 'mono' came out 18:05 do you live with your mother in law? 18:05 omg no 18:05 yeah I didn't think so, so why do her allergies matter 18:05 but the in-laws have been known to pop by at last minute and stay for a couple weeks 18:05 classic in-laws 18:05 i want a cat because my mother-in-law is allergic to them 18:05 get it? 18:06 lol 18:06 she's actually pretty coo, just bat shit crazy 18:06 cool 18:07 they're getting their 2nd shots next week, meaning we'll see them here in about 3 weeks 18:07 O M G 18:07 aosdict i'm coming to stay with you 18:08 I live in a small NYC apartment 18:08 that's fine, just top and tail? 18:08 what does top and tail mean 18:09 1. noun The act of quickly washing the head and buttocks of a baby or small child. Primarily heard in UK. 18:09 ??? 18:09 lmao I have never heard it used in that context before in my life 18:09 it's where two people share a bed 18:09 aosdict i've been in much worse places 18:09 but so it's not awkward 18:09 aaaahh 18:09 you sleep in opposite orientations, so the head of one person is at opposite side 18:10 i dont want to smell your feet 18:11 in the army when you had to share a half shelter with another soldier it was called 'nut to butt' 18:11 but that just sounds like spooning? 18:11 well yeah 18:11 but its soldiers pooning 18:11 spooning 18:11 jeez wtf is up with my kboard 18:11 hahaha 18:11 freudian slip? 18:11 soldier spooning is different 18:12 'nut to butt' 18:12 aosdict: lol 18:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:12 what is 'pooning' 18:12 how to explain 18:12 how to delet someone elses conversation 18:13 ahaha 18:13 heh 18:14 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poon#Noun_2 18:14 "synonyms: nestle-cock" 18:14 also sounds like a valid term for "nut to butt" 18:15 yeah but its dudes in a half shelter 18:16 anagrams: no-op <-- very useful information 18:16 when i was a grunt, there were no women in combat arms jobs 18:16 (there are now) 18:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:19 huh, "poontang" is a word from New Orleans 18:19 interesting 18:19 heh 18:19 from French "putain", prostitute 18:19 make sense 18:20 didnt realize the origins before 18:22 the holy trinity of new orleans exports: jazz music, the word "poontang", crystal hot sauce 18:23 now i want jambalaya 18:23 or gumbo 18:23 well, Crystal is from Metairie but it still counts 18:28 crystal hot sauce? should I ask? 18:30 just a brand of hot sauce, way better than tabasco imo (too vinegary, it overpowers the flavor) https://crystalhotsauce.com/ 18:31 ah, cool. 18:31 most restaurants in new orleans will have it available at your table along with salt and pepper lol 18:35 tinklebear: crystal hot sauce is just like regular hot sauce except it's +1 AC and doesn't impede spellcasting. 18:35 lol 18:35 haha 18:44 franks hot sauce 18:44 kept me from starving on my 2nd tour 18:44 everything tastes good smothered in franks hot sauce 18:46 hell yeah 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2159 points, T:3626, killed by a giant spider 19:15 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jtjjv 19:15 [EvilHack] k21971 dfd6884 - Suppress 'You appear to be only partially affected. You aren't affected.' 19:19 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:21 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:22 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 19:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 802 points, T:2958, killed by a coyote 19:29 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 19:39 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:48 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 19:53 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1068 points, T:2231, killed by a housecat 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:593 20:42 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:06 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 21:10 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:02 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "doot doodle a doot do"] 22:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:10993 22:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:5832 23:45 woof 23:50 I wonder if Polyphemus had giant sheepdogs to watch his sheep 23:52 at least I was bitten by a werewolf instead of a werenewt 23:59 I mean you can't wear body armor anyway