01:01 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±19] https://git.io/Jtdj2 01:01 [EvilHack] k21971 ec3aa56 - Dynamically name noble/royal monsters. 02:22 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1778 points, T:1941, zombified by an orc zombie 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- stenno2 is now known as stenno 04:16 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 04:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:29 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 04:31 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:35 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 04:37 -!- stenno2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 04:40 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:40 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed wand of death", on T:31106 05:01 -!- mode/EvilBot_ [+RZi] by EvilBot_ 05:01 -!- rothfuss.freenode.net changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.6.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 05:03 -!- infinigon has quit [*.net *.split] 05:03 -!- EvilBot has quit [*.net *.split] 05:06 -!- stenno4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 05:08 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:03 mobileuser: rodney time? 06:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31217 06:06 i guess so :) 06:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31224 06:06 heh 06:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 1539 points, T:2729, quit 06:08 !setmintc 3000 06:08 rebatela: [hdf-eu][hdf-au][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for rebatela set to 3000 06:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:31229 06:41 !lastgame 06:41 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/guest99987/evilhack/dumplog/1614238260.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1614167262.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1614252718.evil.html 06:41 the priestess resisted the explosion. what's her problem? 06:42 no harm no foul i say 06:59 ah the classic gas spore 07:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4118 points, T:2553, killed by a bolt of fire 07:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 5144 points, T:3511, killed by Ms. Aklavik; the shopkeeper 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 44 points, T:339, killed by a system shock 07:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3218 07:53 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 07:58 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3270 points, T:3831, killed by a magic missile 08:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:10 Your T-shirt deflects the manbearpig's attack. 08:10 Am I in South Park suddenly 08:10 yeah i'm watching your game those messages are weird? 08:11 halucinating? 08:12 evilhack doesnt have a 'manbearpig' but now i want to make one 08:12 ahh i see yeah he was 08:12 yes I was :-) 08:12 i only saw the scroll back for a second 08:12 :P 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 830 points, T:1858, killed by a dwarf 08:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 7313 points, T:6188, killed by a leocrotta 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 214 points, T:542, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 08:37 -!- stenno1 is now known as stenno 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible dingotron's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2497 09:10 hmm not getting the lightning message when striking priests with mjollnir 09:12 ah, shock res. bastards. 09:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:19 yeah it kinda sucks late game for that reason 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a bone broadsword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3894 09:40 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 09:41 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:31414 10:11 a message about the amulet teleporting away, can't remember seeing that before.. 10:24 mobileuser doesnt want messages about the AoY teleporting away, check 10:28 lol 10:28 just wondered if that was a recent addition 10:30 bug that I think is inherited from splice: conflicted monster that kills its own steed won't be placed correctly on the map and can attack you while 100% invisible/impervious to damage lol 10:31 I think this would happen any time a steed is killed before its rider, but I'm not sure if that's possible outside of conflict 10:31 https://0x0.st/-K86.png 10:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:31461 10:45 qt yeah we've seen that before 10:45 i coulda swore that was addressed, but apparently not 10:46 quick fix would be, if either the steed or rider is conflicted (or both), the rider is forced to dismount 10:46 however, its hilarious watching a rider attack the steed its currently riding 10:48 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 10:56 I think this would work https://termbin.com/0art 10:57 perfect 10:59 that's a very unartistic paste qt 10:59 some might say, 0 art 10:59 hah 10:59 i did the gender thing for monster lord/lady/king/queen last night, dunno if you saw that 11:00 i used splicehack implementation. the way its now done in vanilla... omg 11:00 I was about to ask. and now I can only say... WHY???? 11:00 i looked over that initial commit, its huge 11:00 why use splicehack when you KNOW you're going to merge in vanilla later? 11:00 it's like you love merge conflicts or something 11:01 i've said this before, evilhack wont merge 3.7 anytime soon 11:01 and i already know there will be a lot as-is anyways 11:01 yeah but the monster gender thing isn't gonna be reverted in vanilla either 11:01 so if you're going to implement it, might as well do it now 11:01 and do it in a way with minimal conflicts 11:01 seriously, when the time comes, it may be better to just manually 'redo' evilhack onto 3.7 11:02 themed rooms 11:02 just that alone 11:02 3.7 is just another variant ;-) 11:02 hah 11:02 get out of here amy 11:03 i'll commission aosdict to do the evilhack/3.7 merge with the money i make off of this GME craziness 11:04 :P 11:07 my price doubles every time you pull something like this 11:08 merging in a sure-to-conflict gender system smh 11:10 * K2 slides over 1 zorkmid 11:10 * aosdict flicks it back disdainfully 11:10 aosdict didnt you give me crap earlier about making separate monsters for each gender? 11:10 yes 11:10 i did this for you! 11:10 and now you shun me 11:11 and if you had done it before vanilla had established a more comprehensive system, I would have been fine with it 11:11 you're just like all the others... use me and then discard me like a piece of trash 11:11 hrm 11:12 i see this is how our relationship is gonna be 11:12 i want my records back 11:12 honestly giving up on merging in 3.7 isn't a bad idea 11:12 whys that amateurhour 11:12 how to make a dead variant 101 11:12 because it's diverged a lot 11:13 every change makes it harder 11:13 also what do you mean aosdict, would you say dnh is a dead variant? 11:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1391 points, T:3115, killed by a werewolf 11:14 isn't that what the d stands for 11:14 hah 11:14 also how to pull the nethack playerbase backwards forever 11:14 doh 11:14 good one qt 11:14 in order to play evilhack, you must remember how nethack worked in the before times of 3.6.6 11:15 look I'm not saying it's 100% good 11:15 amateurhour - someday evilhack will merge 3.7, but i wont even entertain doing that until 3.7 is out of dev status at least 11:15 but given the choice between merging in 2 different ways of doing everything 11:15 or just reimplementing the 3.7ism 11:15 how you feeling btw 11:15 at this point the latter sounds more appealing by the day 11:16 still got a splitting headache but a rest helped 11:16 good 11:16 no idea if my sick day request went through 11:16 p much just messaged my manager and went I am going to bed BYE 11:16 :) 11:17 amateurhour: that way lies "well this is a feature in 3.7 and evilhack but evilhack implemented it differently. also evilhack doesn't have this large slate of 3.7 changes because they weren't considered important enough" 11:17 are you going to do the merge then? 11:17 evilhack isn't my variant 11:18 you know how painful it is gonna be, that's why you're pointing it out a lot 11:18 I think there should be some proactivity here rather than putting it off until 3.7 is actually out of dev status and the conflicts will be nigh insurmountable 11:19 yeah like getting started asap 11:19 like maybe, after next evilhack version is released, merge vanilla into it. don't deploy the result, but now you have that merged version and fewer conflicts to worry about in the future 11:20 perhaps 11:20 its just 3.7's themed rooms and the 'random vaults' code in evilhack is probably completely different 11:21 part of me wonders if it may be better to just take 370-hdf and start manually building evilhack onto it 11:21 that's what notdnethack2 is doing 11:21 it's not as if 3.7 has unbelievable good changes compared to 3.6 from a player perspective 11:22 it's also considerable more unstable 11:22 the random vaults backend code is completely different, but you'd be throwing it all out anyway in favor of lua. all you would need to do is reimplement the actual vaults in lua, which is pretty easy 11:22 ^ this is why i want to wait until 3.7 is beta at least 11:22 bhaak's statement 11:23 amateurhour i didnt know Demo was working on ndnh2 11:24 dnethack should do the same honestly 11:25 do what? 11:25 what happened to notdnethack 1? 11:25 is dnethack even moving towards 3.6/3.7? 11:25 no and it shouldn't 11:26 why do you think that amateurhour? 11:26 it's changed so much from 3.4.3 11:26 imagine trying to merge vanilla and dnh's xhity stuff 11:26 yikes 11:26 i didnt say merge 11:26 what about the interface improvements? and my favorite, the wet towel? 11:27 lol 11:27 dnh should rebuild itself onto 3.7 once its no longer in dev status 11:27 status hilite is a clear improvement 11:27 curses improvements 11:27 ^ this mainly. but for that you don't need to rebuild on 3.7. 11:27 yeah 11:27 can just take those changes 11:27 * qt curses improvements 11:27 :) 11:28 they've added and changed so much 11:28 why rebuild on 3.6 when 3.7 is available though? 11:28 why rebuild on either? 11:28 its like gnollhack still staying on 3.6.2 codebase 11:28 lol'ed 11:28 for dnh there'd be no point honestly 11:29 too much work, better to just add the good stuff 11:29 I'm probs not doing a good job putting words together atm 11:29 its ok, you never did anyways :) 11:29 hah 11:29 like i'm one to talk 11:30 the 3.6 or 3.7 is not clearly superior to what you already have 11:32 unnethack and dnethack diverged too much that they can't easily import the changes. neither would a "rebuild" work (due to actual code changes and another of my "favorites" that stupid history destroying code reformatting) 11:33 bhaak wont port unnethack fully over to 3.6 or 3.7 until native utf8 support is a thing 11:33 when I added the 3.6 parts that I deemed useful or improvements, even that added already an instability to the code that I didn't expect to that extend 11:34 :/ 11:36 I will sideload changes over time but I will likely never do the same as xnethack does. that's too dangerous in my opinion for including unexpected side effects. but that's also due to unnethack and xnethack having different design goals 11:39 everyone has there own method. diversity is the nethack way 11:39 if there's an unexpected side effect in xnethack as the result of a vanilla merge, it's either my problem or the devteam's problem, and I act appropriately 11:39 "No one true way: The NetHack way" 11:39 diversity in spelling too! 11:39 yeah, spelling diservity! 11:40 their... fuckers 11:40 they're 11:41 :P 11:41 thayer 11:41 thaire 11:42 Hey, re: player monsters, they can appear randomly in the main dungeon now, right? 11:42 And if so where/when? 11:42 * Umbire is troping before a workout 11:43 i didn't mean to hijack the discussion. please continue, i love to see developers explain their philosophy 11:43 umbire: in evilhack they can. what variant(s)? 11:44 Yes, I know they can in Evil 11:44 I was asking for details on that 11:44 (though if they can show up in other variants I'd love info on that too) 11:44 show up earlier* 11:45 typically when the player has reach exp level 10 11:45 grunthack also, but i don't know the details 11:49 hothraxxa: a de facto philosophy of xnh is if someone says "hey you know what would be cool in vanilla, X" and that is in xnh I can be like "hey devteam, here's a working implementation of X that you could pull with minimal effort" 11:52 devteam thinks of almost everything, aosdict thinks of the things the devteam didnt? 11:53 Who devteams the devteam? 11:54 the devdevteam 11:56 K2, hothraxxa: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Trope_Workshop:Mirror_Mook#Video_Games 11:56 K2: "fully port over" is also somewhat difficult. I will take any UI improvement I can get and of course improvements in the ports, but not necessarily all game changes. and if you would really rebuild it on top of 3.7, you will lose the original history as well. 11:56 How does NetHack and EvilHack's examples look 11:57 If there's anything I missed or stuff I could add just say the word and I'll get to it after my workout 11:58 phhhbbhht immediately remembered what else I was planning to add 12:01 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtF6S 12:01 [EvilHack] k21971 011e222 - Fix: force monster rider from steed if under influence of conflict. 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 29142 points, T:8530, killed by an iron golem 12:01 bhaak true. hmm 12:02 k2 it doesn't actually bump the rider off the steed under conflict, just fixes the problem when the steed dies 12:03 but you could definitely do that too 12:03 oh 12:03 i must have read that incorrectly 12:03 either is fine honestly 12:04 Umbire the link you shared - in vanilla nethack, the only time a player will encounter player monsters is on the astral plane 12:04 I know, that's spoilered 12:05 there are some edge cases, like the dark one's final quest level (pug and newt are technically player monsters) but not in the same sense 12:06 Yeah 12:06 brb 12:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtFis 12:06 [EvilHack] k21971 00537c9 - Fix: force monster rider from steed if under influence of conflict. 12:06 ^ reworded the commit notes 12:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtFiw 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 8351737 - Fix: force monster rider from steed if under influence of conflict. 12:11 I bet this is one of the causes for fuzzer crashes 12:11 betcha 12:11 yeah it does cause an impossible if sanity checking is enabled 12:19 away for awhile, see you all in a bit 12:19 thanks qt for the find/fix 12:24 np 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 744 points, T:1447, killed by a small mimic 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6413 12:42 Alright, workout done, ass sufficiently kicked 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 493 points, T:1438, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a rothe, on T:6432 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own fireball 13:06 "You pick up the sea dragon's tongue. But it's kind of slimy, so you drop it." 13:06 lol 13:06 Who came up with that one? 13:07 That's adapted from a YANI 13:07 er, YAFM 13:08 i think i got suffocated by one of those things with the amulet once 13:08 it was just chilling on the oracle lvl? lol 13:08 I think you did 13:08 mobileuser: The original is from using [,] while engulfed by a trapper 13:09 i need to start using vampire mages as pets 13:09 seems pretty badass 13:13 how does a sea dragon have a tongue you can pick up 13:13 aren't they 100% all natural pure ocean water 13:14 are there sea dragons made from lethe water? 13:14 no because then they would be lethe dragons 13:16 river dragons 13:16 good point 13:16 thx Umbire! 13:17 np 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:849 13:22 the dragon tongue thing didn't work earlier because dragons were treated like incorporeal engulfing creatures instead of swallowing animals 13:22 changed here https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/41d08b6ee55c34095571715d0701000cde28bffc 13:23 Ah, that'll explain it 13:23 Guessing making their engulfing "whirly" style was a quick fix implementation at first 13:23 maybe sea dragons should be treated like "engulfers" instead of "swallowers" if they are made of water 13:24 In the same sense as water elementals or? 13:25 also it's not implausible for something made of an element to have like, a tongue or w/e 13:25 dragons are already playing fast and loose with biological possibility to begin with 13:25 well it also affects things like whether you "pierce the dragon's stomach wall" or "are expelled with a splash" 13:25 tru 13:27 it is canon that sea dragons are just a tongue and the rest is sea water 13:27 c a n o n 13:27 changing that would change the lore and your biggest fans will be outraged 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1628 points, T:2019, killed by a plains centaur 13:40 EvilHack playermons can be peaceful, right? 13:40 i guess you would say a sea dragon "swallows" you rather than "engulfs" you? I guess it doesn't really fit cleanly into either category 13:40 Umbire: yeah 13:40 Aye 13:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:32795 13:44 food time 14:21 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 14:22 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) averted death (zombified by a gnome zombie), on T:7875 14:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 483 points, T:766, killed by an arrow 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 771 points, T:1010, killed by a magic missile 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 811 points, T:1060, killed by a jellyfish 15:00 -!- qt has quit [Quit: brb] 15:00 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 247 points, T:801, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1215 points, T:2469, quit 15:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:32834 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:32840 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) genocided krakens, on T:32840 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Kni Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an enormous rat, on T:13953 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1878 points, T:2305, killed by a mumak 15:34 -!- K2_ has joined #evilhack 15:34 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 -!- infinigon has joined #evilhack 15:36 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #evilhack 15:36 -!- hothraxx1 has joined #evilhack 15:36 -!- aoei_ has joined #evilhack 15:36 -!- infinigon_ has quit [Quit: infinigone.] 15:36 -!- stenno has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 -!- Tangles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37 -!- amateurhour has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:37 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 15:38 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:38 -!- hothraxx1 is now known as hothraxxa 15:38 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 15:39 -!- nabruII has joined #evilhack 15:41 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 15:42 -!- aoei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4+deb0+bionic0 - https://znc.in] 15:43 argh stupid pet switched her ring of fire res for a ring of increase damage 15:43 or maybe it got destroyed earlier... 15:44 shame, I have no reserve ring for her 15:44 -!- nabruII is now known as nabru 15:44 Polyanna will soon die on the plane of fire 15:45 i had hopes for fugger the salamander but he died at the sanctum :( 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2936 15:53 rip fugger 16:00 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:02 -!- aoei_ is now known as aoei 16:03 not a netsplit. server hiccup 16:03 oops 16:07 do even air elementals hate insects? 16:07 ? 16:09 -!- K2_ is now known as K2 16:09 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:5371 16:17 Famine reaches out, and the giant ant's body shrivels. 16:17 poor ant 16:17 K2 does everything hate insects in evilhack? :b 16:18 no 16:18 pretty sure baalzebub likes insects 16:18 why do eg air elementals and Famine attack insects 16:19 huge or greater sized monsters or the riders will 'smush' tiny monsters in their way when trying to get to you 16:19 O 16:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:33126 16:19 Inchresting 16:19 i recently tweaked that behavior so they'll only do it when close to you and not anywhere 16:19 I should trope that 16:22 Aah just trying to reach me 16:22 "bloody insects!" 16:22 on towards altar 3... 16:27 grand tour! 16:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:28 you'll like this one, got it in an email a few hours ago: Got cornered by a were creature and had mele it as an illithid. It unfortunately bit me first "You feel feverish" I then whacked it with my quarterstaff and then... automatically sucked it's brains "you will regret that you canibal" 16:28 lmfao 16:29 people email each other about NetHack? 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a Hawaiian shirt entrusted to her by Odin, on T:6209 16:29 oh yeah 16:29 not mocking them, just never occurred to me 16:29 i get emails from players on a semi regular basis 16:29 not everyone uses irc or discord 16:29 Just telling you how their local games went eh? 16:29 Nah I figure 16:29 not local, server game 16:29 Like I said, that specifically just didn't occur to me for Some Reason 16:29 ah 16:29 but yeah local games too 16:30 i'd re-open the hardfought messageboards if i thought they'd get any use 16:30 brb 16:32 back 16:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:33154 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:6848 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered Teef, her faithful little dog, on T:931 16:48 late ascension livelog? 16:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 3704216 points, T:33182, ascended 16:48 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1613646195.evil.html 16:48 oh there we are :-) 16:49 congrats 16:50 thanks 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 40 points, T:2, killed by a potion of holy water 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (dwarves), on T:1 16:56 \o/ mobileuser 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8262 17:04 congrats mobileuser! 17:05 thank you! 17:05 grand tour 17:07 was a bit scary when Pestilence made me ill, I'm used to wearing gold DSM 17:07 fortunately I didn't pass out from eating eucalyptus 17:09 -!- telegarn has joined #evilhack 17:19 yeah, I wonder what the odds of that are (rotten eucalyptus) 17:20 Probably the same as any given food item 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 17:27 I wonder if you can use tinning kit on eucalptus leaves? wiki says blessed homemade tins are never rotten 17:27 probably just for corpses 17:27 although there are obviously tins of spinach 17:33 yeah, just for corpses 17:33 I think tinned nurses work fine :-) 17:35 hmm only full healing, but not a cure perhaps 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class G), on T:952 17:36 holy water is good for sickness too. I didn't know that for the longest time 17:36 congrats mobileuser 17:36 easy to make 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 746 points, T:1708, killed by a silver crossbow bolt 17:43 thx qt! 17:44 ah forgot about holy water 17:46 good night! 17:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7386 18:01 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9373 18:54 same player that reported the illithid/werefoo bug just sent me another bug report, this one is a tad bit serious 18:55 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2567/source 18:55 that themed room (called 'random vault' in evilhack) that is split up into 3 sub-rooms, doors didnt spawn in 2 of the three rooms 18:56 guess which sub-rooms the up and down stairs were located in 18:56 only way he got out of the upstairs sub-room was by reading a scroll of tele 18:56 the circled area is the sub-room where the downstairs are located 18:57 unless you're an archeologist or a wizard that got just the right wand/ring selection, this could be game ending 18:58 or just wait however many hundreds/thousands of turns for a rock mole or a dwarf with a pick axe to show up 19:00 vlt-0022 19:00 eugh 19:02 hahaha welcome to my themed room debugging hell 19:03 you can't find themed room generation bugs unless it actually crashes the program 19:03 yup 19:03 er, you can't find them *by fuzzing* 19:03 right 19:03 have to see it in action 19:03 you can certainly find them by wizmakemapping over and over again though it gets tedious 19:03 i've had past reports of 'i cant find the stairs' but no one ever sent a screenshot until now 19:04 and i was able to grab their save and load it in wizmode 19:04 "hey the fuzzer got up to 1000000 turns!" "oh, it's because they're stuck in a tiny room with no doors." 19:05 so that type of room, i dont mind stairs forming in there, but if STAIRS then make DOOR 19:05 or something 19:06 how would loading the save in wizmode help? or did they not send a screenshot/screenpaste 19:06 debugging wouldn't do anything since the level already generated 19:09 It was a server game I think 19:09 they sent a screenshot 19:10 in wizmode i was able to wizmap the level, found the third subroom 19:12 good way to test this, is i can increase/decrease the odds of any type of random vault to generate 19:12 so increase vlt-0022 odds by a factor of 1000 19:13 load game, almost every room is the room i want to test 19:13 and the bug has already expressed itself 19:27 is this kind of shop having two doors normal? https://0x0.st/-KqS.png 19:30 yes... not necessarily intended 19:30 just a side effect of the random vaults 19:31 its kinda cool, makes for some interesting interactions 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed tromix's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:11950 19:32 I was lucky enough to acquire a magic marker from sokoban and it's 0:0 :( I assume that's the evil part 19:33 no 19:33 magic markers always have charges 19:33