00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 32083 points, T:13105, killed by a bolt of cold 00:27 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 00:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3762 points, T:4461, killed by a black unicorn 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3346 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5741 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11585 points, T:6295, killed by a bolt of fire 02:28 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 03:16 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:25 uh wow... 03:26 did K2 change something for monk and see invisible 03:27 I fire up my game and immediately can't see my invisible pet anymore 03:33 yeah blame k2 and q3 03:36 I don't mind a fix, but it's a bit sucky that this happens mid-game and suddenly I can't see my pet anymore 03:36 if you save/reload one more time does it come back? 03:36 no 03:37 I'm going to have to waste a wish on an ESP item 03:38 (it would be nice if the eyes made everything within its range visible) 03:39 I was asleep when they changed it 03:39 yeah it would for sure 03:39 that's a nice idea 03:39 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:40 saying the magic 4 letter code to add it to the archives YANI ^ 03:52 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1908 points, T:2133, killed by a rabid dog 04:03 amateurhour: Was that _intentional_, though? 04:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 mithril elven shield of ESP", on T:26149 04:06 I'm wondering why, after becoming a "new woman", I can only cast protection at ~50% fail. 04:09 Oh, d'oh. I was wearing a shield. 04:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6189 points, T:4609, killed by a panther 04:19 arahael: sometimes it will mess with your stats though. a change in int or wis can make a big difference in some cases 04:20 rebatela: Yeah, I was wondering about that. 04:22 was what intentional arahael? 04:23 amateurhour: Monks no-longer seeing invis. 04:23 like for a monk, the difference between 14 and 15 wis is like night and day for spell failure 04:23 not so noticeable with robe, but i play giant a lot... 04:23 well it was a bug that monks would be able to see invis again upon reloading, BUT 04:23 fixing it mid mobileuser's game was a bit mean lol 04:23 haha 04:23 should have kept his mouth shut 04:25 i've had 2 games now in the last few days where i found 4 lamps early on and died... I seem to have much better games when I DON'T find an early wish 04:26 both deaths there was nothing i could do though. gelatinous cube and energy vortex 04:27 energy vortices are OP in vanilla, and in evil shock resistance is really hard to get. I had partial and it made zero difference 04:30 surprised K2 hasn't copypasta'd some of the nastier dnh stuff yet 04:31 things like dread seraphs or uvuudaum 04:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 13911 points, T:4527, killed by a giant mummy, while praying 04:33 Very surprised I couldn't pray. 05:08 * arahael wishes that evilhack had the devteam's office. 05:14 [backscroll] rebatela not a bad idea for a monk to carry an aklys for emergencies 05:15 throw the aklys inside the energy vortex to prevent shock damage 05:16 (monk ranged options suck, but at least the unskilled penalty is not too bad if you throw stuff) 05:29 omg i just went back to a game i was playing on the europe server that i had quit because a demi lich had cursed my boh and I screwed up and had a bunch of stuff vanish from it several times 05:29 but i decided to play it 05:29 and i go back to my stash, get wand of cancel and go back to the castle where this happened 05:29 aaaand 05:29 instead of canceling, I TELEPORTED the damn bag :( 05:30 so now it's somewhere on the castle level i haven't even started to kill anythng 05:30 I wonder if stuff will vanish as the soldiers try to loot the cursed bag or is that only for the player? I wonder if i'll see the messages lol 05:31 ty for the aklys tip mobileuser. definitely an underused weapon (at least by me) 05:31 I suspect monsters don't loot cursed bags of holding 05:32 it will be interesting to see 05:32 in 3.7 they don't at least 05:32 i mean, they wield cursed weapons 05:32 so if it's on the ground they'll ignore it because it's cursed? 05:33 lemme see if I can find it... 05:34 oh i believe you ! 05:35 i'm probably going to die anyway 05:35 well I am not sure myself! 05:35 I was wondering that myself the other day because of bones 05:35 can you even hear monsters rummaging through a bag from the oother side of castle? like you can with a chest? 05:36 you hear a blessed potion of full healing disappear! 05:36 really? 05:36 no lol 05:36 heh 05:41 dammit i got to the castle wand and the chest is open and the solider is wearing gdsm 05:41 and has an unidentified wand 05:41 that i'm 100% sure is going to be 0:0 lol 05:41 well at least you can charge it :-) 05:41 haven't even id'd charging 05:42 wand of poly? 05:42 i basically count on the wand being 0:0 then Im not discouraged when it's less 05:42 yeah. I'll get charging. no big deal 05:42 had to laugh when i saw the gdsm 05:42 he didn't have a key on him though 05:42 that's what i don't get 05:42 I suspect monsters can loot a cursed BoH, but we'll have to ask K2 to be sure 05:43 there might be charging in that boh actually if it didn't vanish 05:43 Maybe he forced the lock ;-) 05:43 i messed up and looted the bag like 5 times and typod and stuff vanished. it was probably almost empty anyway 05:43 do they do that? 05:43 just kidding 05:44 it's bothering me. I don't understand why he was able to get the wand because he was in a locked room 05:44 he couldn't leave the room but he opened the chest? 05:44 sounds like you got scammed 05:44 yeah weird 05:45 I don't know if the chest can generate unlocked 05:45 yeah the other one i checked was unlocked too 05:45 but had like a wand of nothing or something in it 05:45 ah, that must be it then 05:47 all the chests are unlocked 05:48 and like the chest behind the throne unlocked 05:48 and empty of course 05:50 found the cursed boh. 45 items in it still, so i guess they ignored it? 05:55 looks like it 05:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:26292 06:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7878 points, T:3495, killed by a gnomish wizard 06:22 hopefully this death drop is charging. that would be sweet 06:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3469 06:24 oh dammit it's not and I HAD id'd charging. it must have vanished from the bag. F 06:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1198 points, T:1702, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a small shield entrusted to him by Kos, on T:5890 07:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 5811 points, T:6057, quit 07:14 [backscroll] energy vortices are OP in vanilla, and in evil shock resistance is really hard to get. I had partial and it made zero difference <-- not true. the % of resistance you have to things like shock/cold/fire/etc reduces the damage by that amount. so being 50% shock res means you'd only take half damage from that type of attack 07:21 sorry mobileuser :/ 07:27 that's OK, good that it's fixed now :-) 07:28 K2 do monsters loot cursed bags of holding? 07:28 perhaps, i'll confirm 07:28 brb 07:28 in an hour or so 07:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:35 k2: yeah i'm sure it "made a difference" literally. It made no difference in my game. Still did a ridiculous amount of damage for a monster at that stage of the game and my AC. It's a vanilla thing 07:36 but my point was that in vanilla you can eat a flesh golem corpse. You're not going to find enough to be protected in evil. you need the ring or in my case monks get intrinsic at 15 07:36 you won't find 20 gelatinous cubes and 15 flesh golems or whatever it takes 07:37 not necessarily a problem, the player isn't entitled to have full shock res 07:37 i never said it was a problem 07:37 i can still complain about them sucking 07:37 makes the choice of wearing shock res ring an interesting one rather than vanilla's "haha I feel amplified, get off my finger forever you sucker" 07:38 for sure 07:38 finding an invis ring also helps somewhat 07:39 lol aosdict you don't even need shock res in vanilla like, at all 07:39 unless you're doing crazy shit like playing reflectionless 07:39 i die to those energy vortexs all the time in vanilla too. maybe it's just me 07:40 but like in soko and stuff they often end my game 07:40 they're usually not that bad if you don't melee them 07:40 you can throw your main weapon at their insides while engulfed 07:40 usually works pretty well 07:40 monks suck at ranged 07:40 right 07:40 monks get shock res at some point tho anyway 07:40 yes, but until then... 07:40 also i don't think energy vortices have all that much hp 07:41 just carry some shit you can throw at them or have attack wands on hand 07:41 or scare them or run away 07:41 almost nothing worse than a random energy vortex in soko. 07:41 they're not *that* dangerous 07:41 arahael: chameleon immitating a minotaur is worse 07:41 *almost* nothing worse. 07:41 actually a bunch of things are worse 07:41 energy vortices suck 07:41 and y'all need to git gud 07:42 :v 07:42 wand of cold or fire also helps 07:42 but not as badly as mind flayers or vampires! heyo 07:42 ALHOON 07:42 aosdict: aaaaaayyyyy 07:42 mobileuser: ye like i said, attack wands 07:42 use them 07:42 lel 07:43 btw they don't react to tooled horns or scare monster I think 07:44 in evilhack 07:45 f 07:47 well that worked out. Titan had a cancel wand and was killing me, but i managed to kill him first and he also had a wand of poly (that I badly need) 07:47 but it's probably cashed out 07:53 A bunch of things are worse than energy vortices 07:53 but running into them still sucks dicks 07:54 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 07:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:59 -!- stenno1 has quit [Client Quit] 08:03 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:42599 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:42599 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43011 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:43993 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:4196 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6306 points, T:4279, suffocated by a water elemental of Thoth 08:32 lol the black dragon was wearing AoLS 08:32 never seen that 08:40 Probably worn before polymorph? 08:44 ^ that 08:47 extrinsic shock res in dnh protects your invent items 08:48 oh nice 08:49 yeah that's the other thing about those things is they have a chance of destroying your stuff after you're expeled 08:52 I'm surprised the change K2 made removed existing see invis from mobileuser's character, I'd have thought it would just prevent it from being restored, not remove it when it was already restored previously 08:52 me too 08:52 if (pname == "mobileuser") punishForReportingBug(); 08:53 with strcmp instead of == ok 08:53 the game must have been looking at the mon data directly I guess 08:53 also, i'm pretty sure gremlins can and do steal starting intrinsics 08:53 yeah they can K2 I realized that yesterday, I was misreading it at first 08:54 I misread the definition of INTRINSIC, I thought it excluded stuff it that it actually didn't 08:54 EPI - instead of magic traps toggling (see) invis on/off, just have it call attrcurse() 08:55 brb 08:55 EPI - some things are double invisible and you require both intrinsic and extrinsic see invis 08:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:47275 08:57 why not require both the see invis bitfields to be filled with 1s 08:57 that would be challenging but fair 08:58 do that but with all 'trinsics 08:58 uhm 08:59 don't turn evilhack into slex please ;-) 08:59 :^) 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1492 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1923 points, T:1637, killed by a bolt of cold 09:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 134 points, T:912, killed by Ms. Wonotobo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 520 points, T:1272, killed by a rothe 09:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 878 points, T:2188, killed by a pony, while sleeping 10:00 amateurhour likes to troll about evilhack being like slex 10:00 bad troll, bad! 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:4782 10:05 :^) 10:07 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 10:07 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest724 10:07 -!- Guest724 has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 10:07 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 10:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 10:11 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest12929 10:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 10:15 -!- Guest12929 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 2078 points, T:1354, killed by a gnome king 10:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:48037 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a gray spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:8016 10:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 606311 points, T:48808, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 10:39 !lastgame 10:39 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1614093192.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1613320778.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1614078797.evil.html 10:39 !lastgame rebatela 10:39 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1614072132.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1613320778.evil.html 10:40 exploding drawbridge that sucks :-( 10:41 rip 10:41 "You start channeling your qi" ? 10:42 is that when you want to chop a boulder? 10:42 to smash boulder in their way perhaps 10:42 ah ok 10:45 yeah 10:46 you can do it too if you put the weapon down ;) F and direction. Have to be at least skilled in martial arts i think 10:46 once you're at grandmaster they just smash 10:48 good to know, thx 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xan, on T:6316 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:509 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 2715 points, T:1605, killed by a black unicorn 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:6470 10:59 works on statues too ! 11:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:07 si 11:17 pretty sure i know the answer but i'm asking anyway. k2: did you change the monster spell stun? 11:22 nerp 11:22 i think i did way way way back and then changed it back to normal 11:22 lemme confirm 11:25 it just seems to last forever 11:26 and the fucking gnome wizards can easily stun lock you 11:27 its identical to vanilla 3.6 11:28 for comparison sake: 11:28 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6/src/mhitu.c#L1546 11:28 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/mhitu.c#L2070 11:28 look, another use for a wand of cancellation 11:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:45 hmm. what natural speed is a centaur monk? 11:46 centaurs are speed 18 and a monk starts with speed so what does that mean> 11:49 they wouldnt stack 11:49 i dont think so anyways 11:50 i get 'You are fast innately.' if i role a monk (any race) or a centaur (any role) 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Cen Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:6293 11:54 *roll 11:54 omg role/roll 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:16462 11:54 i'd like some spring roles please 11:55 ROLES 11:56 fuck me i forgot wraiths broke vegan again 11:56 i might as well hunt down that floating eye now 12:04 heh. i've done that 12:04 omg this wraith tastes so gooood 12:04 oops its not the same as a carrot 12:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:17658 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +2 long sword on an altar, on T:6628 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 3900 points, T:3016, killed by a carnivorous ape, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:18563 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10947 points, T:6974, burned by molten lava 12:23 ethically sourced wraiths should be vegan imo 12:24 i thought about playing the centaur monk... Are mobileuser and hothraxxa both playing neutral centaur? 12:25 yeah 12:26 and then there were 3 ;) 12:28 the race is on 12:33 no boots huh 12:33 i guess not 12:33 no cloak no armor no boots no shirt ? 12:33 oh cloak 12:33 sweet 12:37 hopefully centaur monks don't do that kicking attack on footrice? 12:40 centaurs can wear every armor type except boots 12:40 and no they wont use the random kick on footrice 12:45 nice. thanks 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:6918 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7065 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a flaming sphere, on T:7119 13:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Cen Mal Neu), 7969 points, T:3513, burned by a fireball 13:03 i hate those gnomish wizards pre unihorn 13:04 i had a lamp, was about to get luckstone bah 13:04 mobileuser is already pretty far along anyway, right? 13:08 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:08 we having a race? 13:10 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3095 points, T:3328, killed by a gold golem 13:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:23108 13:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:8572 13:29 there's no race. i'm way too slow and i don't think i'll survive anyway 13:30 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 13:30 i just forgot where i was and blew a bugle in minetown. bye bye col-aligned altar :( 13:30 !whereis hothraxxa 13:30 rebatela: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Mon Cen Fem Neu) T:7636 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 13:31 yeah i screwed up too 13:31 i kinda like centaur tho 13:32 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:47 also this is tres bogus. an ettin zombie took me from grand master back to basic in martial arts 13:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:58 !tell rebatela it's funny that all 3 of us asked K2 exactly the same question about centaurs kicking footrices. we are all paranoid ;-) 13:58 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 14:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:9878 14:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 63044 points, T:27372, zombified by a gnome zombie 14:04 !whereis mobileuser 14:04 hothraxxa: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Mon Cen Fem Neu) T:27538 Gehennom level: 39 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of jungle boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3147 14:15 heh 14:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 25172 points, T:11719, killed by a fire elemental 14:34 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jt5JK 14:34 [EvilHack] k21971 e4e9723 - Fix: monsters turned into zombies still showed as 'turning into a zombie' via probing or stethoscope. 14:47 i really need to get to a stopping point on 0.6.0, i'd like to re-release the 'official' 0.6.0 release 14:47 so's i can rebuild the binary package 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1053 points, T:2024, killed by a pony 14:49 what if you just release it, not re-release it 14:49 as 6.0.1 14:49 0.6.1* 14:49 or feel free to jump to version 6, nothing matters 14:50 there's nothing save-breaking about it though 14:50 exactly? :P 14:50 ^ troll 14:50 ? 14:50 you're doing it again 14:50 does noone care about semver 14:50 aosdict: back me up here 14:52 doing what again? 14:53 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jt5T4 14:53 [EvilHack] k21971 6d70278 - Properly set status of 0.7.0. 14:54 ^ need to remember to be more vigilant about that 14:54 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:09 K2: https://termbin.com/bqrtg 15:09 from etherpad "Flag corpses that can confer intrinsics as 'treats' for pets (this doesnt mean your pet horse will think it's ok to eat meat)" 15:10 damn now I'm paranoid about black dragons 15:10 why mobileuser? 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful earth elemental, on T:57939 15:10 can I safely punch them with dragonbane or will my extra kick disintegrate me? 15:10 (centaur) 15:11 (monk) 15:11 or will my extra kick be withheld like with footrices? 15:11 looks like you do kick it 15:12 ouch 15:12 though I didn't get disintegrated when I tried it in wizmode 15:12 maybe I got lucky 15:12 I kicked and punched enough times to kill the dragon though 15:12 amateurhour: consider yourself backed up 15:13 yeah I don't want to instadie because of bad RNG 15:13 why do a re-release if you can just release the new version. make 0.6.1 the official 0.6.x version 15:14 the "re-release" = 0.6.0 plus non-save-breaking bug fixes right? 15:15 amateurhour: although I'm not sure any nethack variant correctly uses semver 15:16 i also care about semver and approve of amateurhour and aosdict's message 15:16 if I used semver correctly then my 5.1 release would have been 6.0 15:16 qt neat! 15:17 i actually don't know loads about semver but i know this: you don't re-release something with the same version number >:c 15:17 and I don't get why splice and evil and grunthack and all the others have consigned themselves to infinite zero hell 15:17 unless it's literally teh same 15:17 break your chains, my fellow variants! rise up! 15:17 actually I'm just going to submit it as a PR, I'm changing a couple things 15:17 or you're doing rolling-release beta shit 15:17 do you hear the versions sing... 15:17 mobileuser - i'll look into the monk kick vs black dragons 15:17 which means the same prob happens with illithids and their tentacle attack 15:18 yeah I was already browsing the source 15:18 should be easy fix 15:18 brb 15:19 I suppose that once you are 100% disintegration resistant it is OK 15:19 (which I'm not) 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 9 points, T:55, killed by a sewer rat 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5692 15:32 yeah 15:32 lemme run some tests just to be certain 15:32 for... SCIENCE 15:37 whoa 15:38 so nothing happens 15:38 but its because i found another bug 15:38 You pummel the basilisk! You spin around and back kick the basilisk! The basilisk reels from the blow. 15:38 ^ not wearing boots 15:38 i should've been stoned 15:38 semver sucks 15:39 oh wait 15:39 i'm a level 30 monk, stone res 15:39 lets try that again 15:39 i was also disint res hah 15:39 lets try ALL of this again 15:40 you can't rely on the version being actually consistent to what semver is and you have to pin the version in your local package manager often enough as enough as even patch level changes can insert changes that will break your program 15:41 for nethack variants, we only care about save and bones compatbility 15:42 You jab the basilisk! You spin around and back kick the basilisk! You turn to stone... 15:42 ^ ok good 15:42 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #54: Mark intrinsic-granting corpses as treats - https://git.io/Jt5Lr 15:42 yay! 15:44 "telepathy at experience level 20" 15:44 hmmm 15:44 is that 0.7 K2? 15:45 or already 0.6? 15:45 yes 15:45 You chop the black dragon! You pivot and roundhouse kick the black dragon! You disintegrate yourself off of the the black dragon's hide! 15:45 \o/ 15:45 ^ also good (for testing purposes) 15:45 ok will fix today and push to 0.6.0 as well as master 15:45 "You disintegrate yourself off of the black dragon's hide" reads a little awkward to me 15:45 maybe "you are disintegrated by the black dragon's hide"? 15:46 probably so. i make no claims on being the grammar master 15:46 ^ that's probably wrong also 15:46 I don't know if it's grammatically wrong, the phrasing just seems a little bit awkward to me 15:46 glad the extra monk abilities are not for 0.6, otherwise my wish for an ESP item would have been a bit stupid 15:46 qt i'll wrap that into the fix. shorter statements are best 15:47 mobileuser i'm not adding any new functions or content to 0.6.0, its strictly bug fixes for that branch 15:48 oh wait a sec 15:48 I understand, I just didn't know if I had missed a longer existing monk feature 15:49 mobileuser you realize the kicking bit w/ monks will only be for centaur race correct? 15:49 I wondered about that 15:49 its because centaurs *can't* wear boots 15:49 I suppose other races take their chances with shoes? 15:49 all the other races can, if they forget to put on boots, that's on them 15:49 yup 15:50 same logic with illithids and their tentacle attack 15:50 yeah I wondered how rebatela deals with black dragons normally 15:50 cant cover up the octoface 15:51 still a bit shit to lose your super duper shoes because you can't suppress a bonus kick 15:52 bless them 15:52 reduces odds by half 15:52 ah, nice 15:52 which are already kinda low 15:53 I wish I could bless my hooves :b 15:53 heh 15:53 * K2 wonders if horse shoes should become a Thing™ 15:53 hoofs? 15:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:54 i still wanna make barding for horses and other animals 15:54 of course that wouldnt apply to centaurs... 15:55 but that's for another day 15:56 what's barding? 15:56 armor for horses 15:57 oh oblivion horse armor dlc 15:57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barding 15:57 lol the article has a redirect to the oblivion horse armor dlc at the top 15:57 the way dnethack does it... its really wonky. i dont like it 15:57 hah 15:58 i'm gonna do my own thing for barding. i want to do it in same way that one would apply a saddle to a steed 15:59 regular barding for horses and such, and then maybe 'large barding' for other steed types 15:59 sounds interesting, that must be a really heavy item though 15:59 saddles are already super heavy 15:59 it would be yes 15:59 but yay for obj materials 15:59 finding mithril barding would be much yay 16:00 but yeah its base material would mostly likely be iron 16:00 obj materials are cool but teh variants do that tend to make me hate iron and die constantly in the mines >:c 16:01 poor elf friend 16:01 hugs 16:01 * K2 is wearing iron chain mail 16:01 mmmm BIG HUG 16:01 K2: did you apply the fix for "black dragon eats a black dragon corpse. the black dragon looks very firm" to 0.6.0? 16:02 i dont think so 16:02 good call 16:02 ok, there is a typo in it in 0.7.0 16:02 i will do that if i havent already 16:02 I changed it in the PR I have open rn 16:02 typo? WAT 16:02 :P 16:02 ok cool 16:02 fanx k2 16:02 i appreciate 16:02 willcom 16:04 qt i see it 16:04 doh 16:05 it might have even been a typo on my end when I wrote it in the channel, idk 16:06 no that looks like a typo i did 16:07 is it ok to pull that PR? 16:07 yeah I think so 16:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] https://git.io/Jt5qN 16:07 [EvilHack] entrez 05492fc - Mark intrinsic-granting corpses as treats 16:07 [EvilHack] entrez 5af323f - Fix bug in dog_givit 16:07 [EvilHack] k21971 e605aaf - Merge pull request #54 from entrez/intrinsic-granting-dogfood 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2895 points, T:2353, killed by a paper golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:09 qt that PR is perfect. if the corpse is on the ground and your pet is not hungry, they wont mess with it. but if you take that corpse and throw it at your pet, they'll eat it 16:10 just like any other treat 16:10 \o/ 16:10 its like ozzy and brocoli 16:11 wont touch it on the ground. throw it at him? catches it and eats it in one bite 16:11 weirdo dog... 16:12 haha 16:12 oh man i forgot to get a pic last night 16:13 he totally climbed into my wife's lap last night when we were eating 16:14 i'm still laughing at the cat head pic 16:14 ^ the new bobble hat 16:16 characters should be able to wear their pet cats as helmets 16:19 though in my experience they would have to deal with occasional AT_CLAW attacks if they tried to move around the dungeon instead of sitting still 16:21 K2 the centaur monk / black dragon fix, will that also apply to player monsters with BDSM? 16:21 it should apply yeah 16:21 nice, thx 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:27854 16:22 ^ pet protection ;-) 16:33 Sunsword flares brightly as it incinerates Vlad the Impaler! 16:33 hah awesome 16:33 ^ why no livelog? 16:34 doh 16:34 added to the pad 16:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:27965 16:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27969 16:42 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:49 "The shambling horror casts a spell! The shambling horror suddenly disappears!" 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 154 points, T:1386, killed by a piranha 16:50 fixed the centaur monk kicking thing 16:50 need to tweak it a bit 16:50 back in a bit 16:51 Invisible horrors sounds 16:51 Fun™ 17:33 mobileuser: i always cast mm at black dragons or avoid them 17:33 rebatela: Message from mobileuser at 2021-02-23 13:58 EST: it's funny that all 3 of us asked K2 exactly the same question about centaurs kicking footrices. we are all paranoid ;-) 17:34 rebatela sounds sensible 17:35 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 17:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8877 17:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Cen Mal Neu), 6332 points, T:3862, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:28595 17:56 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 6803 points, T:6512, killed by an elven dagger 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had a magical steel dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:58865 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 143 points, T:942, killed by a small mimic 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a twisted staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:808 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] owen (Inf Ith Fem Una), 496 points, T:1299, killed by a dwarvish spear 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 3329 points, T:1502, killed by a soldier ant 19:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 7357 points, T:4226, killed by a giant beetle 19:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:30 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 19:32 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:34 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 19:35 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 20:08 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 20:12 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:40821 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:59392 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2348 points, T:3224, killed by a giant cockroach 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 629 points, T:1450, killed by a giant bat 21:36 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 21:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:44 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/Jt5cC 21:44 [EvilHack] k21971 869d370 - Prevent centaur monks from using random kick attack against certain targets. 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3196 points, T:2233, killed by a giant anaconda 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 781 points, T:1997, zombified by a gnome zombie 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4 points, T:121, killed by a sewer rat 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5115 points, T:6848, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while praying 23:04 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 48 points, T:310, killed by a fox 23:12 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1082 points, T:1473, killed by a gnome lady 23:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/Jt5gH 23:29 [EvilHack] k21971 0a4b049 - Proper handling of monsters killed via artifact special fatal attacks. 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1049 points, T:1855, killed by an exploding wand