02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril katana entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2259 02:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3492 points, T:3517, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 02:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 136 points, T:469, killed by a jackal 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1201 points, T:997, killed by a jellyfish 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:59 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 04:02 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:12107 04:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3584 points, T:1689, killed by a wand 04:21 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 52179 points, T:13291, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 04:27 ouch 04:27 !lastgame rebatela 04:27 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1613511286.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1613319642.evil.html 04:28 please spare me the couldn't you have done this couldn't you have done that... it's 4;30am here and i'm not well lol 04:28 i hate those fucking things 04:28 yeah, my sympathies! I hate gelcubes. 04:29 rebatela: Ouch, and with a magic lamp, too! 04:29 4 04:29 Always feels more painful when you loose a game with a magic lamp. 04:29 well 2 still 04:29 Four of them!? 04:29 found 4 in a shop 04:29 one in bag 04:29 maybe it leaves bones 04:30 dragonbane and dragonspeed boots 2 lamps 04:30 of course it probably wont 04:30 Very nice. 04:30 i knew it was over soon as i saw that thing. no digging wands no teleprot wands should have read earth i guess i dunno. who cares. game SUCKS 04:30 j/k 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 3209 points, T:3857, killed by a water moccasin 04:32 what happens if i pray there, I get expelled? 04:32 hmm good question 04:32 free action is so clutch. i probably had it in bag. i haven't even looked 04:34 I don't think praying would have helped 04:34 It might've given some extra turns. 04:34 should have taken teleport out of bag and read it soon as i saw the thing. i 'm not sure if i had it id'd tho 04:35 gel cubes are like soldier ants in vanilla. you get going and feeling really good about things and BAM 04:36 or like running into floating eye in vanilla by accident 04:37 at least in evilhack THOSE are easier to spot once you have telepathy 04:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Brute, on T:2933 05:38 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 14485 points, T:5156, burned by molten lava 06:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 2599 points, T:2525, killed by a wererat, while unconscious from rotten food 06:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:2624 06:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:3013 06:34 -!- aoei has joined #evilhack 06:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4622 06:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Twoflower, on T:5441 06:53 why is microlance logged for eating animal products and I am not 06:54 some mincount thing? 06:54 mobileuser: I think it ignores certain things if you do them early in the game - yeah, mincount. 06:55 I sin early :-) 06:55 already broke weaponless and vegetarian 06:56 There you go. :) 06:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5355 points, T:3808, killed by an owlbear, while praying 06:57 !setmintc 06:57 mobileuser: No min turncount for mobileuser 07:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had an etched staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:6936 07:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:7254 07:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 200 points, T:944, killed by a killer bee 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 242 points, T:742, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted water moccasin 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) wished for "a", on T:10317 07:41 K2 qt lots of progress with the checklist for the racial player monsters, nice! 07:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 stone helm of speed", on T:10337 07:47 at what point do we declare qt an evilhack developer 07:50 now 07:57 yup pretty much 07:58 mobileuser the server has a set minturncount for a bunch of mundane events 07:58 its set for 3000 07:58 nothing to do with the bot 08:00 I switched off my minturncount , is the limit still 3000 then? 08:01 it's so the channels don't get flooded with uninteresting messages 08:02 almost every game breaks vegetarian and weaponless right out of the gate 08:02 for some of the stuff it should be a higher limit imo, some people take 3k turns to get to minetown and break atheist by dropping stuff on the altar 08:03 mildly interesting only for monks really 08:03 (vegetarian and weaponless) 08:03 not for the monks played by mobileuser :P 08:03 they use weapons 08:03 * amateurhour faints 08:03 then it's YUGE news 08:03 :b 08:04 centaur monk and everywhere I see body armor and shoes 08:05 selfpoly WHEN 08:14 * amateurhour gasps 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:2638 08:22 lol 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:11526 08:28 engraved with Polymorph and got "Zap yourself and see what happens" lol never seen that before 08:28 brilliant 08:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:04 K2: should eating a matching racial player monster corpse make you a cannibal? they don't have glyphs that correspond to the race when alive, and also the body just says "a wizard corpse" or whatever, so maybe it would be confusing? 09:05 I guess maybe that means the corpse should be "an orcish wizard corpse" rather than that cannibalism should be ignored in this case 09:08 ^ that 09:08 In my latest dumplog it said I had vanquished "a human", I wonder what that was 09:09 yeah if you're an elf and you eat an elven wizard corpse, that should be cannibalism 09:09 mobileuser hmm 09:09 and if i remember correctly, orcs and cavepersons can be cannibals without penalty 09:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 137927 points, T:15683, killed by a mountain centaur 09:13 oh I'm glad you said that 09:13 I was testing cannibalism but I was an orc, I totally forgot that 09:13 lol 09:13 :) 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) stole 45 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Wonotobo's general store, on T:1061 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 305 points, T:1069, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 09:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:1507 09:32 Yes, orcs and cavefolk are "expected" to be savage, thus no cannibalism penalty 09:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4144 09:37 nice https://0x0.st/-XkB.png 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 7362 points, T:4380, killed by a dwarf 09:40 https://0x0.st/-XkQ.png 09:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 139 points, T:479, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse 09:41 \o/ 09:41 it should still be cannibalism as these are meant to be other players right? 09:41 they're all human inside, just like our characters are whilst we're giants or elves 09:42 or something idk 09:43 no 09:44 if they are of different races, cannibalism should only apply to same race eating 09:44 hobbit tastes just like chicken! 09:44 mmm MMM finger lickin' GOOD 09:44 rawr 09:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a thin spellbook given to her by Anhur, on T:1848 09:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:51 K2: I marked the player monster thing as ready for review, I'd appreciate it if you could test it a bit when you have time 09:54 will do. work got busy but once things slow down i'll give it a go 09:54 cool, thanks 09:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2573 points, T:2786, killed by a spear 10:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4279 10:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4674 10:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:30 qt, latest commits look good 10:31 in this commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/48/commits/a4239ca9d821f747b80c1f0ae88137856aadb3c1 - in makemon.c, those arent the default attacks for all player monsters, only rogue should have AD_SITM. minor issue, I can tweak that after I pull 10:31 brb 10:33 oh oops, thanks for catching that 10:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 bone gauntlets of power", on T:5287 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 10084 points, T:6794, killed by a mumak 10:39 it's potentially a little confusing that two different monsters can leave "a hobbit rogue corpse" 10:40 though I guess the player monster's would be "a hobbit rogue corpse called Mack the Knife" or whatever 10:40 they would also be different colors 10:42 oh maybe I need to handle tinning too... should tinning a hobbit rogue produce "a tin of hobbit meat" or "a tin of rogue meat"? 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5840 10:44 hobbit meat 10:45 oh wait... 10:45 "hobbit rogue" is a separate monster 10:47 that is a bit confusing if you will have rogue NPC's of hobbit race 10:50 why not get rid of "hobbit rogue" monsters 10:51 or rename them to "hobbit thief" 10:51 or similar 10:52 yeah... 10:54 would be cool to have level 3 NPC hobbit rogue instead 10:54 I made tinning "an elven rogue corpse" produce "a tin of elf meat", I think that makes sense 10:55 agreed 10:56 same result as tinning an elven zombie 10:56 or rather elf zombie 10:59 ugh I just realized that eating an elven rogue should give you sleep res 11:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a silver dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:9073 11:14 ^ agreed (all that convo I missed) 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:32060 11:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:34 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 11:39 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:40 look how much cleaner this is now lol https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/48/commits/6f295b4a03cfae75ef6a3e41eb79c67acb946514 11:47 wait k2 finally agreed to kill hobbit rogues because the infrastructure now exists to do them properly? hooray 11:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11920 11:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:12030 11:54 aosdict not exactly :P 11:54 i should probably rename 'hobbit rogue' (the monster) to 'hobbit thief' to avoid some name confusion 11:54 qt lol wooo 11:55 that looks a lot less messy hah 11:55 brb again 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 660 points, T:1390, killed by an arrow 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 171 points, T:461, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse 12:01 J) uncursed spellbook of blank paper (90 aum) 12:01 say whut? 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Novice, on T:13311 12:05 a magical spell that lets you correct any mistakes you make when writing 12:05 an invaluable tool for the modern author 12:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:14206 12:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:14209 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 639 points, T:469, killed by a potion of acid 12:21 obviously it's 3 times longer than a normal spellbook hothraxxa 12:23 heh 12:23 wooo been a busy morning. finally able to sit down for lunch 12:24 alternatively maybe it's the hardback edition 12:24 hardcover 12:25 qt you want me to pull that PR? or is there more coming soon? 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 87 points, T:265, killed by a goblin 12:27 I think it's ready, though I also thought that earlier before I thought about tinning corpses & gaining sleep resistance from eating elves lol 12:28 it never ends :) 12:29 maybe it's best to sit on it for a while longer just in case 12:29 yeah 12:29 good call 12:30 qt, is this still necessary? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/save.c#L1194 12:30 ^ and its twin in restore.c 12:30 oh, no I don't think it's necessary any more, good point 12:31 oh good 12:32 oh wait... there is still a problem with the yellow @ sign stuff 12:32 that does change the mons item (which means it also turns the player's @ yellow) 12:32 ah 12:34 idk what to do about that 12:34 this is super minor 12:34 it could just go away really 12:35 I do like the yellow thing, it makes them stand out 12:35 but I guess it could be removed for now and maybe tackled afresh later 12:35 player: 'I was white and then I turned yellow! I have jaundice aaahhh!' 12:35 [TermIll] 12:35 heh 12:36 but I guess it could be removed for now and maybe tackled afresh later <--- agreed 12:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of finger of death", on T:16143 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed the ring of p'hul", on T:16932 12:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed the master key of thievery", on T:16979 12:52 i love when a zombie kills a shopkeeper early enough to buy that d4 of protection... 12:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:17325 12:52 :) 12:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:17499 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 stormbringer", on T:17514 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:33432 13:02 goddam asshole. just doesn't want to give me magicbane 13:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide t-shirt of esp", on T:17834 13:04 not sure what microlance is up to. that's a puzzling set of wishes 13:06 hmm 13:06 maybe he's not aware of drain res as an obj property 13:06 OR 13:06 he's about to kit out a humanoid pet 13:07 t-shirt of esp makes no sense, illithids already have esp 13:07 ^ unless its for a pet 13:07 well he wished for finger of death, then got crowned. then he wished for stormy. he's a choatic wizard 13:07 yeah its a bit odd 13:08 but he's a good player, i'm sure he has his reasons 13:08 maybe not. you wish for the spellbook, then wield a short sword and get crowned 13:08 that's actually clever 13:09 short sword? 13:09 broad sword 13:09 whatever. you get the idea 13:09 si 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) had a magical conical hat entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:33524 13:14 ARRRGH 13:16 dunce? 13:16 microlance comes up with crazy ideas on the spot, then executes them flawlessly 13:21 no it's a wizard hat, but i am camping for magicbane 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6021 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) had a magical ironshod staff entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:33575 13:25 smh 13:26 those staffs can be useful for non wizards! 13:27 i know. this one is a staff of war 13:29 it's pretty frustrating 13:30 vampire bats will be extinct soon (this is the goal level of the wizard quest) 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 364 points, T:1057, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) had a magical etched staff entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:33909 13:43 fuck me 13:49 it'd be nice if staves were more useful for wizards 13:55 he's building a collection! 13:56 the matter one is the best 13:56 reflection/polymorph become castable for all 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:6883 14:02 i don't know what the fuck k2 did to the odds for getting magicbane but it really sucks 14:02 i can see not making it the first wizard gift, but this is just ridiculous 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:34242 14:04 it's way to OP as the first gift imo 14:04 yay 14:04 finally 14:08 funny how slex and evilhack both made it harder to get the first gift :P 14:11 I think you're now supposed to say "Curious." and silently walk out of the room 14:14 Curious. 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9067 14:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:20519 14:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20522 14:16 I suggested this earlier, the odds for the first guaranteed gift should be better 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 211 points, T:771, killed by a giant mimic 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 789 points, T:1599, killed by a dwarf 14:21 add it to the etherpad please 14:21 and 'curious' 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 386 points, T:604, killed by a piranha 14:21 * K2 goes back to work 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock piercer, on T:11097 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1108 points, T:1695, killed by an imp 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:22204 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 35 points, T:86, killed by a wand 14:42 ok its slowing down finally 14:45 quick, eat a lizard corpse 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:852 14:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:22947 14:56 lol 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1251 points, T:2470, killed by a rabid dog 15:05 lol you can apply races to any monster now, not just mplayers https://0x0.st/-XR-.png 15:06 the rare and deadly elven newt 15:06 bomber 15:07 i was just thinking, which this patch i could do up racial solders the right way too 15:07 racial priests/shopkeepers i think i'll leave as-is, its kinda cool to see their actual race symbol 15:08 yeah I tried to set it up so it'll be pretty straightforward to use for other things like that in the future 15:10 this is fantastic 15:11 its seems more... elegant? than what was done to make this work in grunthack 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:34656 15:14 hopefully playtesting won't uncover some really horrible problems with this approach lol 15:14 * qt knocks on wood 15:15 yay hothxraxxa! Ice Queen defeated 15:15 * hothraxxa 15:15 i will play test the shit out of it 15:16 I hope it does reveal horrible problems as you're enjoying working on it and it lets you work on it for longer :) 15:16 [backscroll] there is no "thief" title for rogue 15:17 I think I would feel pretty defeated if I had to do it again from scratch, so let's shoot for only mildly horrible problems 15:17 level 3 title for rogue = rogue 15:17 mobileuser: are you talking about the hobbit rogue -> hobbit thief thing? I meant to rename the "hobbit rogue" monster so it doesn't overlap with the "rogue" with a hobbit race 15:17 therefore, hobbit rogue level 3 needs to become an NPC 15:18 QED 15:18 yeah I am talking about that :b 15:18 I figured they were supposed to be a distinct kind of monster but I guess they do kind of overlap lol 15:18 I don't think there's currently a way to guarantee a particular race though 15:19 smop? 15:19 probably that would be a useful extension in the future 15:19 ;-) 15:19 qt i'll take care of "hobbit rogue" in monst.c 15:20 don't call it hobbit thief 15:20 * K2 renames it to 'amateurhour' 15:20 sucky name! 15:20 uhm 15:20 damn 15:20 what would you suggest? 15:20 sorry amateurhour 15:20 I didn't mean you 15:20 YOU DID 15:21 hobbit stealing boy 15:21 good name 15:21 lol 15:21 artful dodger 15:21 'cabana boy w/ small towel' 15:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23651 15:25 "Curious" added to etherpad 15:29 I'm not really surprised that qt managed a more elegant implementation than sgrunt, the creator of the "90% of grunthack features are in two commits" 15:33 hahaha 15:36 * hothraxxa arrives back at medusa's and remembers that once again perseus did not have his promised loot 15:37 that'll be fixed in 0.7.0 15:37 oh, hobbit rogue = "robbit", that's canon 15:37 hothraxxa i know why that happened 15:37 its how player monsters are currently setup in 0.6.0 15:37 wont be an issue in 0.7.0 15:37 ok, good that you've dealt with it 15:38 no big deal for my game, but i thought it worth mentioning 15:38 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3291 15:39 lol, if you do mtmp = makemon(&mons[PM_ORC], 0, 0, NO_MM_FLAGS); apply_race(mtmp, PM_ORC); you get an "orcish orc" 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:17949 15:40 ^ that must be good bones rebatela 15:43 well, at least i have MR now (pyec) 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed mithril magic lamp", on T:24769 15:46 always forget that you can do that ^^ 15:51 "if the player tries to hit a monster with a weapon they are restricted in, or unskilled in, or any non-weapon object, they'll never have better than a 75% chance of landing a hit." 15:52 I think I'll add that to the wiki somwehere 15:52 that's gotta be an evil thing 15:52 "From both SporkHack and UnNetHack (modified)" 15:53 because i've definitely wished for grayswandir in vanilla and not be trained in saber 15:53 not to mention cockatrice corpses are non-weapons right? 15:53 yeah in vanilla unskilled hardly matters 15:53 once you have enough dex + luck 15:54 BUT 15:54 the limitation doesn't apply to projectiles it seems 15:54 so an aklys is actually still useful enough at unskilled 15:55 (my monk is happily using one at the moment) 15:58 I am getting a declaration-after-statement warning from the line "struct erac *rptr;" 15:59 how does that mix declarations and code 16:00 the same line appears verbatim in another file and doesn't produce an error there, it's driving me crazy 16:02 I guess it is just the compiler being screwy 16:02 the compiler is never wrong. check again. 16:03 "but I checked again" 16:03 the compiler is never wrong. check again. 16:03 repeat until the compiler actually is wrong, then write a blog post about it and farm karma 16:03 farm it from the small minority of people who care about compiler bugs? 16:03 heh 16:04 !8ball is the compiler ever wrong? 16:04 K2: Don't count on it 16:04 'check again' 16:04 !8ball is the compiler ever wrong? 16:04 Umbire: Outlook not so good 16:04 see 16:04 Oh piss off >:1 16:04 the 8ball is full of truth 16:05 !8ball does "struct erac *rptr;" mix declarations and code? 16:05 qt: Signs point to yes 16:05 the 8ball is full of something all right 16:05 lol 16:06 K2 hobbit pickpocket I think 16:06 whats wrong with 'thief' 16:06 ^ serious question 16:06 boring 16:07 boo 16:07 hmm 16:07 Bilbo Baggins was a pickpocket 16:07 hobbit sneaky stuff stealer 16:07 'hobbit mega awesome thievery master class mofo' 16:07 lol 16:07 :P 16:07 hobbit pickpocket? 16:07 I like it 16:07 say that really fast 10 times 16:08 heh 16:08 but there's a false rumor that says "Pickpockets about!" 16:08 you'd have to move it to rumors.tru 16:08 oooh nice! 16:09 oh snap 16:09 ok. 'hobbit pickpocket' it is 16:09 \o/ 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:20199 16:10 ^ look amateurhour, you CAN affect change without whining 16:10 yeah but it's not as fun that way 16:10 false 16:10 i know you dont care at all about fun. you play slex 16:11 haha 16:11 I'm playing it ironically 16:12 :) 16:15 saw your wiki edits mobileuser, good stuff 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:25562 16:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25591 16:18 cheers K2! 16:19 wooo 16:19 h - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3) 16:19 masterly copy/paste skillzz 16:19 nice hothraxxa! 16:19 nice! 16:19 sadly pegasus became dragon food 16:19 Yay Castle wand! 16:19 Now checkmate the king 16:21 "Glenbeigh the invisible elven wizard" what a lovely Irish name! 16:24 Ah the bookstore shopkeepers all seem to have Irish names. TIL 16:24 aren't they named after towns 16:24 looks like it 16:24 Irish towns 16:24 I wish I lived in Sneem 16:25 lol 16:25 mobileuser: "kiss me i'm elvish" 16:26 uhm 16:26 i'd rather not? :b 16:26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_me,_I%27m_Irish 16:27 ah... 16:27 brisk T-shirt trade 16:27 why is "kiss me i'm elvish" not a nethack T-shirt text already 16:28 oop thats another one that will have to change 16:28 'elven wizard' is an actual monster 16:28 mobileuser add that t-shirt slogan to the etherpad please :P 16:28 ... 16:28 gnomish wizard too 16:28 lol 16:28 qt good call 16:29 delete gnomish wizards 16:29 easy fix 16:29 bastards 16:29 could switch 'wizard' to 'enchanter' or 'sorcerer' 16:29 hmm what if they spawn female 16:29 need to handle that 16:29 OR 16:29 do them up like dawrf lords/ladies 16:29 dwarf 16:30 OR 16:30 you could use 'conjurer', that's gender-neutral probably 16:30 ^ that 16:30 "hobbit pickpocketess" 16:30 'gnomish motherfucker' 16:30 'gnomish bastard' <--- mobileuser 16:31 yeah! 16:31 lol 16:31 I'm on a roll 16:31 i think 'pickpocket' is also gender neutral 16:31 yeah just kidding 16:31 however i am not a grammar expert (but I play one on TV) 16:33 I guess Conjurer is a wizard title, if you want to avoid overlap there as well you might have to use another word 16:34 Gnomish Mindfreaker called Criss Angel, wearing a leather jacket 16:34 lol 16:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:26185 16:34 we'll get it sorted 16:35 i should incorporate vanilla's gender handling commit 16:36 does evilhack have a full tileset? 16:36 that was mixed in with the new glyph system... i wonder if the one depends on the other? 16:36 qt ... yeeeees 16:36 i think the one that you can use via hterm is current 16:37 i've been good about updating monsters and objects .txt 16:43 can the A_NONE alignment go in the infidel entry in monst.c? would that affect the player at all? 16:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:44 I just noticed it is still being set that way in makemon, so something needs to be done about that 16:49 I don't see anywhere that youmonst.malign is used 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27126 16:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:06 I am going to tentatively guess that it's not a problem to mess with it... if it is an issue it can always be reverted 17:08 qt dont set infidel as A_NONE 17:08 oh ok, what would happen 17:08 it screws up random monster generation 17:08 hmm 17:08 i forget the exact error 17:08 but i did a recent commit specifically fixing that 17:09 oh I see where it was changed 17:09 in monst.c the only monster template with A_NONE is the wizard of yendor, and they're a special case 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:4413 17:11 it looks like kathryn the ice queen, demon, cultist, archbishop of moloch are all A_NONE too 17:11 right but they arent randomly generated 17:11 oh I see 17:12 rndmonst() threw a panic i think 17:12 impossible("rndmonst: bad `mndx' [#%d]", mndx); 17:12 makemon.c 17:16 when did it happen? just randomly every once in a while? 17:17 anytime a player monster infidel was spawned that was A_NONE in monst.c 17:18 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/57158b6fb232f78bcde44a72a50fd49e033692ad 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4675 17:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:28 ok i was able to fix that I think while keeping the infidel A_NONE... I'll push another commit and you can check whether you are still seeing it 17:29 hmmm 17:30 ok great 17:30 question to evilhack monk players 17:30 do monks have a greater chance to feel weak and lose strength? 17:30 no 17:30 not on purpose anyways 17:31 already lost 2 STR 17:31 time to read the wiki 17:31 I lost a fair bit of str naturally but assumed that was just general evilhack 17:31 vaguely recalling a bug report about lost stats and exercise not counting 17:32 monks do differ slightly when it comes to weak, they're meant to exercise wisdom 17:32 when i added giant race a long time ago, something funky may have happened with attribute loss. but i purposely didnt add anything to make players loose attribute points more often 17:32 I wondered if it was maybe something with not using a weapon... 17:33 "Attacking a monster in melee" exercises strength 17:33 is that with weapons... 17:33 is should still 17:33 it* 17:34 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L467 17:35 ah 17:35 so as a monk, you're not swinging a weapon, so you arent exercising str as much 17:35 well, typically not swinging a weapon 17:35 ???? 17:35 ? 17:35 ?????? 17:35 ? 17:35 lol 17:35 ... ? 17:36 oh woops 17:36 the source shows bare handed is fine 17:36 thats outside the brackets 17:36 yeah 17:36 did i just cause a mild panic 17:36 imagine us both turning in slow motion towards you 17:36 puzzled expression on our faces 17:36 ??? 17:36 ????? 17:36 lol 17:37 wwwwwAAAT 17:37 my little mystery remains unsolved 17:37 https://media.makeameme.org/created/whaaaaaaaat-pfhkig.jpg 17:38 https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256-nqlyaa.jpg 17:38 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2552/source 17:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:28687 17:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28688 17:39 I remember it being reported before 17:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (choked on a K-ration), on T:28697 17:39 it has 17:39 wow makeameme.org is awesome 17:39 https://media.makeameme.org/created/my-fellow-americans-cf239a71d8.jpg 17:39 that exercise didn't seem to be doing anything, and not particularly sure if it was on a monk or not 17:39 lol 17:39 are you a giant, mobileuser? 17:39 in the game I mean, I know you're 7 foot tall irl 17:39 qt why u gotta use trump 17:40 'the orange menace' 17:40 amateurhour a centaur 17:40 they can also reach STR 20 like giants 17:41 aka they can't naturally via exercise even if you want them to 17:41 and increased carrying cap like giants 17:41 hmmm 17:41 trump is notorious for his hate of nethack variants, it basically carried his whole campaign 17:41 plus they get burdened less often 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:5232 17:42 burdened exercises strenght 17:42 lol qt 17:42 I kinda doubt it's race/role specific and just exercise being busted somehow 17:43 yeah 17:43 the whole vanilla exercise thing could use a rethink 17:43 the only significant attrib edits were here - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7ea89f8076a31dc188ef939dcade968ec68fe9cf 17:43 2 yrs ago 17:44 basically any of my early commits are suspect :) 17:44 probably nothing to do with evilhack K2 17:44 this is the only monk-specific thing I can think of is the fasting thing 17:45 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/attrib.c#L539 17:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:45 that would be refreshing 17:45 ignore terribad grammar 17:45 'hey its a bug but its not evilhack' 17:45 more like annoying vanilla design 17:48 what does STR18 do? 17:49 ah, that's so jank 17:49 delet 18/xx 17:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:29078 17:51 str 18/xx comes from ad&d 17:57 d&d has moved on 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) wished for "thoroughly historic greased very uncursed locked corroded very magic marker named stylus of wonderful poems and amazing stories and oh yes genocide", on T:35120 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) wished for "rustproof fixed historic thoroughly diluted extinguished blessed holy very +5 dragonhide t-shirt of decay named lifestealer defeater as seen on tv", on T:35120 17:59 K2: I set rndmonst up to disregard everything but infidels as potential targets and it seems to be working once I get to a high enough level that they are legal to generate randomly, I think it's fixed... 17:59 fingers crossed 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:23172 18:05 nice 18:05 i just looked at your commit. clever 18:06 i'm waiting for you to give the word before i pull heh 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24009 18:07 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24653 18:09 noooo 18:09 K2: I think it is OK to pull the trigger on it now 18:09 sweet 18:10 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 25 commits to master [+0/-0/±132] https://git.io/JtDeZ 18:10 [EvilHack] entrez 7cc6753 - Move player mon racial characteristics to mextra 18:10 [EvilHack] entrez 0adeae3 - Use monster-specific racial_foo macros 18:10 [EvilHack] entrez ec590c3 - Consider erac when warned of particular mon types 18:10 [EvilHack] ... and 22 more commits. 18:10 hooray 18:10 and it was so 18:11 just compiled with the linux-debug hints file 18:11 we have some warnings 18:12 most of them are 'warning: suggest parentheses around ‘&&’ within ‘||’ [-Wparentheses]' 18:12 i can fix those 18:14 oh yeah I see that some macros need that 18:17 generating a list of erros 18:17 errors/warnings 18:18 did a 'make all 2> warnings' 18:18 https://termbin.com/7yj6 18:20 thanks 18:21 just a tiny simple edit to racial_perceives in mondata.h kills all but 2 warnings 18:22 the muse.c one just needs is_spellcaster(mon) instead of is_spellcaster(mon->data) 18:23 now just down to this - https://termbin.com/i40j 18:23 ah cool 18:24 and the zombie_form one needs zombie_form(mdef) instead of zombie_form(pd) 18:24 I think that clears everything up 18:25 compiling 18:25 only one now 18:25 mhitm.c: In function ‘mattackm’: 18:25 mhitm.c:374:27: warning: variable ‘pd’ set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable] 18:26 374 | struct permonst *pa, *pd; 18:26 | ^~ 18:26 hahaha 18:27 you can just remove it I guess now that it isn't used 18:27 yup, re-compiling 18:29 and we're clean 18:29 🎉 18:29 \o/ 18:30 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 18:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JtDvZ 18:31 [EvilHack] k21971 21c874e - Fix: clean-up a few warnings from the last PR. 18:32 i'm very excited for this 18:32 i will play test this tonight 18:33 thanks again for all your work on this 18:33 evilhack player monsters are really cool, I loved seeing them show up in my game (before I died horribly) 18:33 very cool concept 18:33 What's the summary? 18:33 and the race thing will be good too 18:33 the summary is, qt is awesome 18:33 arahael: racial player monsters redux 18:34 qt: Is that the priests thing? 18:34 and it sets the stage for racial solders proper 18:34 Ah, nice. 18:34 arahael no priests/shopkeepers are a separate thing 18:34 This probably makes fort ludios and the castle a bit more interesting. 18:35 technically, evilhack already has racial monsters, but it was a huge kludge 18:35 i made separate templates in monst.c for every racial type 18:35 aosdict made fun of me 18:35 aosdict is so cruel 18:36 meanie 18:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:36 Nice :D 18:37 s/racial monsters/racial solders 18:37 oops 18:37 solder races are like tin, lead, etc 18:38 soldier 18:38 OMFG 18:38 i am a horrible typist 18:38 lol 18:38 :P 18:39 speaking of which I just noticed that README:15 has "gratned" instead of "granted" 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful nightmare, on T:6752 18:42 doh 18:42 I think that's a typo for "grats ned". 18:43 !lastgame ned 18:43 qt: No last game for ned. 18:44 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtDfq 18:44 [EvilHack] k21971 710b116 - Fix: spelling error in README. 18:47 Hothraxxa's ghost turns even more transparent. 18:48 :O 18:48 u haz see invis 18:48 Carl's brother, Ned 18:51 Oooh, that reminds me. I wonder what a "bushranger" role would be like, eg, Ned Kelly. Perhaps they start with incredibly heavy armour. 18:51 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:7336 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35951 19:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35974 19:23 K2: I wasn't mad, just disappointed. 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) genocided vampire mages, on T:36098 19:35 assholes been sending mobs after me in the valley 19:36 "Dave the Cutpurse tries to run away with your brown potion. Dave the Cutpurse puts a brown potion into the bag." 19:36 maybe "his bag" or "her bag" would be better? 19:37 https://termbin.com/qpun1 19:41 or even just "a bag" 19:42 "the bag" sounds to me like it's a particular bag that has been discussed before or something 19:45 well here we are discussing it 19:45 it's a nice bag, but mine is nicer 19:46 don't let Dave the Cutpurse hear you say that -- what he'd do to your bag is in his name 19:47 yname() for the win 19:47 qt I expect a PR on it in 30 minutes 19:50 a Purse Ransacking 20:12 heh 20:31 maybe "his bag" or "her bag" would be better? <--- agreed 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3124 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4814 points, T:3549, killed by a watchman, while praying 21:35 K2: idk if you looked at the earlier "his bag" termbin I posted, but in case you were going to use it I think doing it like this is better (I had forgotten about mhis): https://termbin.com/z3tm 21:36 cool 21:36 i'm gonna go to bed now, good night all 21:36 yeah i am def gonna use it 22:14 gnite qt 22:14 how did i miss you saying that before 22:16 !tell qt is it possible to add maligntyp and mcolor to the erac struct in mextra.h? mcolor because yellow @ again, maligntyp because (example) an elven knight shouldn't be lawful, but chaotic instead 22:16 Will do, K2! 22:17 i gave it a go and it did not work 22:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:19 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JtDY3 22:19 [EvilHack] k21971 11ca225 - Remove M3_SKITTISH from ranger monster template. 22:24 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtDYr 22:24 [EvilHack] k21971 0685483 - State gender for monster using a portable container. 22:32 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 22:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 267 points, T:615, killed by a water demon 22:44 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±8] https://git.io/JtDOW 22:44 [EvilHack] k21971 62573d6 - Rename 'hobbit rogue' to 'hobbit pickpocket'. 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7416 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1052 points, T:1838, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 682 points, T:862, killed by a scroll of earth 23:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:9244 23:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving]