01:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtKTx 01:43 [EvilHack] k21971 3ae2914 - Fix: A shimmering globe appears around it! 02:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11455 points, T:6293, suffocated by a water elemental 02:35 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:81, killed by a water elemental 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 376 points, T:1184, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:53 * arahael wants a beared weapon. 03:04 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:23 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 03:28 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:29 that's a first... Secespita dropped in my ranger game 03:38 gratz 03:41 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 03:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:41 ;o 04:41 what's Secespita 04:47 a fairly bad weapon that boosts corpse sacrifice value 04:47 added with infidel patch 05:07 yes, it's the first artifact gift for infidels 05:07 if moloch can be bothered 06:47 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:13 0.7: bearded dwarves with bearded axes will be able to pull your weapon out of your grasp 07:14 FUN :b 07:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] commodore96 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 665 points, T:1981, killed by a rothe 07:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] commodore96 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 36 points, T:202, killed by a bear trap 07:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] commodore96 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gold dragon scale mail", on T:823 07:44 oh no. My titan decided to mess with Izchak... 07:46 luckily i was able to lock the door lol 07:48 surprised titans don't smash doors 07:52 he turns into like an archangel or something? lol (never bothered to find out on my own) 07:53 got the titan to -23ac, reflection, fire resistance, but he was about to get his ass whooped ! 07:53 Izchak does. I had that happen once when I had an arch-lich pet. At least the arch-lich was smart enough to teleport away quickly. 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Geryon, on T:50475 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Dispater, on T:50571 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:39760 08:02 aight. who's left... 08:03 Orcus? 08:05 omg thank you lol 08:05 who knows where he is... 08:05 had that digging wand 08:06 demo still obviously too. i think i'm going to nurse dance and do some alchemy etc. i have 5 wishes still 08:07 castle wand was 0:1 but i haven't had to use it 08:13 nice! 08:17 couple lamps, throne wish, bones etc.. got lucky 08:18 my titan is swinging a basilisk corpse at everything in sight in vlad's lol this is great. 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:51566 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51572 08:28 heh 08:46 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtKBg 08:46 [EvilHack] k21971 2bf62e6 - Fix: typo in objects.txt for dwarvish bearded axe. 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 891 points, T:985, killed by a gnome lady 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:52629 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9804 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:54744 09:50 no unholy potions? 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1780 points, T:4574, poisoned by a rotted Uruk-hai corpse 09:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:56016 09:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:56 maybe Cerberus should have a special vulnerability to magic flute music even though he is normally sleep resistant, since that's effectively how Orpheus got past him in Greek myth (mentioned in the encyclopedia entry) 09:56 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:56 What other EvilYANI discussion have I missed thus far? 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:56115 09:58 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 09:59 none 10:10 Baw. 10:10 There goes my excuse to be nosy. 10:13 there are two approaches to beating Cerberus mentioned in the encyclopedia, an all-out attack and using music to lull him to sleep... it would be cool if players could use their ingenuity and figure out how to apply that to the game 10:13 since he's a unique, you cant tame him 10:14 i dont even think you can pacify a unique if they are hostile 10:14 but just make him fall asleep? 10:14 ^ 10:14 too easy 10:14 with a magic flute specifically? it is pretty uncommon, you'd have to really try to find it 10:14 sleep spell, wands of sleep, sleep potions... all too common easy to come by 10:14 Flute, K2, flute! 10:15 Also isn't polypiling like seriously more dangerous now 10:15 no 10:15 Just from the sheer amount of monster buffs 10:15 And thus the odds of someone walking in on you with their own polywand 10:15 well that but i dont feel like polypiling is any more dangerous than in vanilla 10:16 lemme check somethin 10:17 you could have a special exception for magic flutes but still retain general sleep resistance like this: https://termbin.com/b8c4 10:18 hrm 10:18 but I get it if you think that might spoil the challenge too much 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:57848 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:57853 10:21 i like the idea 10:21 but... hmm 10:21 i need to mull it over 10:23 Until you kill cerberus, you wont be able to get past the VotD 10:24 potion of paralysis works on cerberus too 10:24 hmm 10:24 HMMM 10:24 yeah lemme think it over 10:25 thanks qt 10:26 sure 10:27 the cockatrice entry also says they can be instakilled by a mirror so it's not unprecedented for encyclopedia entries to give misleading hints if you leave it as-is lol 10:28 heh 10:28 I do generally like the idea of rewarding people for thinking outside the box and drawing on knowledge from outside the game though 10:28 yeah that's part of the appeal of nethack 10:29 for sure 10:29 Very on-brand! 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7854 points, T:3566, killed by a gnomish wizard 10:29 Many people are saying this! 10:31 I read that rgrn game writeup that is on the sidebar of /r/nethack recently and found it interesting that the player looked some things up in an actual bound encyclopedia and made in-game assumptions based on that 10:31 this one: http://nethack.gridbug.de/ellora/TheElloraSaga.pdf 10:33 qt how bout this: a magical flute can put cerberus to sleep, but whilst asleep, he is invulnerable 10:33 WHILST 10:34 in Dante's Inferno, they never actually killed cerberus. i think they just feed him dirt until he was so full he was food sleepy 10:35 in evilhack you cant past down into gehennom until cerberus is killed, so putting him to sleep is fine - it can buy the player time 10:35 *cant pass 10:35 whatcha think 10:36 cool, I think that's a solid idea 10:36 woop 10:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37 how can sleepy invuln be justified from a flavor perspective though? maybe he should just wake up as soon as he is hit 10:37 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:38 ah i see 10:38 I am probably just not creative enough to think of a good reason lol 10:39 one thing that comes to mind - put cerberus to sleep, hit him which wakes him up, but the player just got a free hit 10:39 play flute again, goes to sleep 10:39 rinse/repeat until dead 10:40 so i think being invulnerable whilst (WHILST!) asleep may be better 10:41 AND wake him up if he's attacked, but that way that free attack waking him up does 0 dmg 10:41 which then makes the magical flute strat basically useless 10:41 well, it could give you time to drink some potions or retreat 10:42 ^ that 10:42 it buys the player time 10:42 I do like the idea of making it useful enough to be worth finding or wishing for a magic flute, but I get if there are other balance considerations 10:42 say cerberus is kicking your ass - whip out the flute, nappy nappy time, retreat to heal up regen spell points etc 10:42 a little safety net 10:42 yup 10:43 I have to say I have never been in mortal danger from cerberus, maybe other players have different experiences 10:43 i think cerberus is a bit too easy in current iteration 10:44 and yeah the more i think about this, the more i like qt's idea with the flute 10:44 or maybe I overprepare :-) 10:44 'this one time, at band camp...' 10:44 I don't know how others feel about cerberus 10:45 medusa is more challenging than cerberus and you excounter her sooner 10:45 encounter 10:46 yeah 10:46 give cerberus snakes on his body :-) 10:46 Medusa's compensating for a weaksauce ass weakness 10:47 how many magic flute charges would it take to kill him if he were invincible? 10:47 were not invincible* 10:47 oh gosh that depends 10:47 a dual wielding samurai all kitted out would prob kill him in a few hits 10:48 a wizard with acid blast spell could nuke him with a couple casts probably 10:48 or magic missile 10:48 or cold? 10:48 yeah but those are fuck awesome roles so 10:48 yeah that too 10:49 if they can kill him in a couple hits the flute doesn't really add much to the encounter though, it would already be easy 10:50 i'm probably going to buff up cerberus some for next version 10:50 nothing crazy 10:51 just wont be boop boop boop dead encounter 10:51 I wonder if there are any special descriptions of the dangers of cerberus in greek myth that could be used for inspiration 10:52 like maybe he has really gross slobber or something 10:52 :^) 10:52 hah 10:52 'Cerberus licks your face. Your face starts to melt away!' 10:53 so qt, i'm all for adding the effects of a magical flute putting fido to sleep, but its contingient on him being invulnerable while being asleep 10:55 amateurhour when you fight cerberus, do you imagine him wearing bobble hats on all three heads? 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:60329 10:58 sounds good to me 10:59 that will be cool 11:00 I think especially if Cerberus is buffed to be more powerful it can actually be a useful strategy 11:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Venus, on T:10226 11:07 si 11:07 YANI elves can tame black unicorns and ride them 11:08 (still trying to inject fun into elves) 11:08 heh 11:08 orcs can tame wargs 11:08 true 11:09 put it on the etherpad 11:09 please 11:09 lol 11:09 I will later today 11:09 forgetting my manners there for a sec 11:09 gotta go afk for a bit 11:10 oh something else i wanna do when i start working on ice queen's realm stuff - kathryn is more powerful on her birthday 11:10 ok cya mobileuser. tell your dishes i said hi 11:10 o/ 11:10 :) 11:11 mini-me turns 9 tomorrow 11:11 its all i hear about 11:11 'daddy guess what? in days I turn 9!' 11:11 lol 11:15 hope they get nice presents 11:16 she 11:16 yeah she'll be excited 11:16 i got her a giant bean bag, two full grown adults could sit on/in it 11:16 she loves bean bags 11:17 my wife told me i couldnt get it so of course i ordered it the next day 11:18 when it showed up my wife was like 'wtf is this? didnt i tell you not to get this?' me: 'uh-huh' 11:19 S A N C T I O N E D F U N 11:19 yay bean bags 11:19 lol 11:19 :) 11:19 i havae one too but nowadays i am using it as a shelf and not actually something to sit in 11:19 lol 11:20 we do that too. we have a small normal sized one in the living room, it gets shit thrown on top of it every so often 11:20 if i had a bean bag at 9 years old i'd probably destroy it after a few days to figure out whats in there 11:21 right 11:21 i did that to the one we had when i was a kid 11:21 and back then they didnt make them spill proof 11:21 so maybe your wife was not wrong with her objection? :P 11:21 wait how are they spill proof 11:21 oh ok 11:21 qt a lot of them, its memory foam now instead of lil bits of styrofoam 11:22 and its in a bag inside the actual bean bag 11:22 oh huh, is the feel of it different from a traditional beanbag chair? 11:22 like a dbl-hulled oil tanker 11:22 I guess it must be to some degree 11:22 yeah its a bit different but its SOOOOOO comfy 11:23 can totally rack out in one 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63588 11:23 snooze mode - engaged 11:23 go rebatela go! 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63596 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:63603 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:63740 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63741 11:29 well rebatela break the curse of the lawful giant monk? enquiring minds want to know! 11:29 hehe 11:29 I think i drowned in lava right here once 11:29 salamander 11:29 i can't cursed gain level with amulet right? 11:30 you can 11:30 nice 11:30 its when you're in the presence of a demon lord, that gets shut down 11:34 big bean bag is the best thing i've ever got for the kids 11:34 hours and hours of jumping into it 11:39 ^ that 11:39 might be a few min of dad doing the same 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:64603 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:65965 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:65965 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:65967 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:65967 12:13 black rain \o/ 12:16 ehhh i'm kinda screwed 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:66295 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:66305 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) averted death (killed by an Angel of Huan Ti), on T:66315 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:66323 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) murdered his faithful black dragon, on T:66323 12:18 woot! 12:18 the curse has been lifted! 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 4037694 points, T:66330, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1612960294.evil.html 12:18 congrats! 12:19 thanks 12:19 got lucky lol 12:19 it wasn't luck 12:19 never playing that combo again 12:19 neutral for life ! 12:19 lol 12:19 it was perseverence 12:20 i thought pestilence had me 12:20 somehow got away 12:25 finally managed to not hit something w/ pickaxe too ! 12:25 miracle 12:25 :P 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2922 12:34 somehow i lost all my divine protection there at the end 12:34 must have killed a priest or something? 12:41 perhaps 12:42 killed your pets probs 12:43 and you did kill your high priest iirc 12:44 omg qt... lol 12:44 so early on, things i brought over from sporkhack or grunthack, the formatting is all jacked up 12:44 some things i've fixed, you just found another spot where it was all wack 12:47 the expandtab thing? 12:47 yeah 12:49 yeah I have been changing it when I notice it in something I'm working on, but changing all the places where \t is used can be sort of annoying for git blame 12:50 i wish now me could send a message back to then me and say 'hey, dont straight import that shit' 12:50 and then me would prob be like 'YOLO hahahahah' and do it anyways 12:51 lol 12:51 I suspect aosdict probs did warn you 12:52 maybe? i dont know 12:52 it took me awhile to leanr, but i'm pretty good about it now 12:52 learn 12:53 qt is that pull request good to go or are you still working on it? 12:53 it should be good to go I think, I know my track record saying that recently has not been so hot though lol 12:54 :P 12:55 this would be me if i could time travel - https://www.cc.com/video/bo9wlp/comedy-central-presents-dane-cook-from-the-future 12:56 brb 12:57 ah vindication 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (rust monsters), on T:4039 13:05 GG rebatela! 13:18 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JtKiR 13:18 [EvilHack] entrez 8d3ef6c - Fix magic_detect monster detection 13:18 [EvilHack] entrez 28651ed - Code formatting (expandtab) 13:18 [EvilHack] k21971 eed9f9c - Merge pull request #46 from entrez/magicdetection 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 8072 points, T:4618, killed by a jellyfish 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 387 points, T:1018, killed by a large kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:37 woo rebatela! 13:37 congrats!! 14:15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus#/media/File:Herakles_Kerberos_Eurystheus_Louvre_E701.jpg 14:15 look at all these snakes on cerberus, he should have like 15 poison bite attacks per turn 14:16 also, nemean lionskin would be a cool artifact cloak 14:25 In the earliest description of Cerberus, Hesiod's Theogony (c. 8th – 7th century BC), Cerberus has fifty heads, while Pindar (c. 522 – c. 443 BC) gave him one hundred heads.[5] However, later writers almost universally give Cerberus three heads.[6] An exception is the Latin poet Horace's Cerberus which has a single dog head, and one hundred snake heads. 14:25 MORE HEADS 14:32 lol 14:32 MOAR 14:36 Cerberus... had eyes which flashed fire (according to Euphorion) <-- fire gaze attack too >:) 14:36 he already breathes fire 14:36 double the fire 14:36 lol 14:37 triple 14:37 three heads 14:37 three breath attacks 14:37 fire breath, fire gaze, 100 snake bite attacks per turn 14:37 amy would add a fart attack... 14:37 but the eyes could work like that other bastard 14:37 the c one 14:38 pyrolisk 14:38 (need coffee) 14:38 "according to Virgil he had multiple backs." the beast with three backs 14:39 snake tail too 14:40 heh 14:40 cerberus is actually medusa 14:40 Ovid's Cerberus has a venomous mouth,[19] necks "vile with snakes",[20] and "hair inwoven with the threatening snake" 14:40 the threatening snake 14:41 sounds scary 14:41 apparently some descriptions have him half dog, half snake 14:41 and that developed into just being covered in snakes 14:41 lol 14:42 a venomous bite would be cool, but by the time you've reached the votd, you already have poison res 14:43 maybe i'll add that just cuz 14:44 make sure to add a threatening snake someone braided into his hair 14:44 that's a specialty of Gehennom dog groomers 14:45 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46 make Cerberus and Hydra have a baby 14:48 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1829 points, T:1855, killed by a bugbear 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:62130 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 376 points, T:1007, killed by a sewer rat 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:193 15:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JtKSH 15:40 [EvilHack] k21971 c21f7fb - Kathryn's birthday. 15:43 that's cute K2 15:43 heh 15:43 I like the "You freed me on my birthday!" 15:43 \o/ 15:43 there should be an extra reward or something 15:43 you get a beanbag chair 15:43 hey what've you put into the game for my birthday? 15:44 B O B B L E H A T S 15:44 we now need a Bot command to warn us of Kathryn's birthday 15:45 its tomorrow 15:45 ^ like that :-) 15:45 but this isnt for 0.6.0 :P 15:45 :( 15:46 this means you will have to release 0.7 within a year 15:46 i want to release it before junethack this summer 15:46 simply HAVE to :b 15:46 \o/ 15:47 we'll see 15:47 depends if i can knock out everything i want to accomplish for 0.7.0 15:47 might stagger things 15:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:10704 16:06 lol amateurhour is there an official bobble hat day? 16:07 yup 16:10 omg we just had it 16:10 25th january 16:10 in unnethack, on 'towel day' players start with a towel in their inventory, regardless of role 16:11 Woolly Hat Day is also a thing 16:12 on bobble hat day, players could all start with bobble hats 16:12 it's not actually an annual thing ;-) 16:12 fund raiser stuff 16:12 ... wut? 16:12 I was pulling your leg a bit 16:13 noooooo 16:13 sorry! 16:16 lol 16:26 xnethack implementation of towel day would obviously be to name fruit 'edible towel' or something 16:30 heh 16:30 "a very burnt expensive camera" lol 16:31 I didn't know they were wooden? 16:32 ooh, plastic! 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5378 points, T:4706, killed by a white unicorn 16:38 !rng dragonbane | SDSM 16:38 mobileuser: dragonbane 16:38 This is the correct choice. 16:38 !!lot 16:38 !lot 16:38 lot 16:39 !lotg 16:39 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, mobileuser! 16:39 there we go 16:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:11297 16:40 damn 16:42 at least Lillianna the Wayfarer is on the run, that is something... 16:44 d - a pair of dragonhide falconry gloves named Dragonbane. \o/ 16:44 phew 16:45 RNG knows best 16:46 "The bag of holding catches fire and burns. Its contents fall out." <-- wow, this almost gave me a heart attack 16:46 I guess it was a bag of holding in the inventory of a monster I just killed? 16:49 lo 16:49 lol 16:49 an npc had dragonbane? 16:51 rebatela yes, I was hoping to avoid an npc with the wish :-) 16:51 got away with it 16:52 qt must have been! never seen that before. 16:52 I was fighting a salamander over lava and I had just killed him 16:52 yeah that tends to di t 16:52 I thought the lava might have bubbled up and destroyed my bag or something lol 16:52 do it* 16:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:53 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:53 if you walk over lava then your BoH has a good chance of burning 16:53 I was flying, does it still happen then? 16:53 no 16:53 actually I fireproofed my bag already anyway, but that's good to know 16:53 i still usually fireproof it 16:53 Unless you go down. ;) 16:54 How do you fireproof a bag? 16:54 wield it and read confused enchant weapon 16:54 you can do that with just about anything 16:54 Ah, I see, pretend it's a "weapon". 16:54 wands and such 16:54 it's an evilhack-specific feature 16:54 well, idk if any other variants have it 16:54 but you can't do it in vanilla I think 16:54 Wish I could weild my helm and read enchant weapon 16:55 helm cursed? 16:55 oh like an enchant armor you mean 16:55 Indeed. 16:56 yeah, that doesn't work :-) 17:01 but it should! 17:01 ;A; 17:13 K2 I see my tame ancient pseudodragon because of dragonbane 17:13 bug? 17:13 a pseudodragon is not a dragon 17:14 could also be awkward for wizards in 0.7 17:20 Warns of D, but I think it only aggros true dragons 17:21 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 or that's the plan anyway, don't recall 100% 17:22 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 17:23 ah that would be fine 17:24 "The hill giant pummels the lizard." lol 17:24 they really hate tiny things 17:27 HULK SMASH PUNY SCALY 17:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:59 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:09 the bane changes wont be live until 0.7.0 comes out 18:09 the stuff i keep pushing to 0.6.0 i'm trying to keep to bug fixes 18:12 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:31 giants should get a red wooly on astral... 19:38 hah 19:38 but thats not the red horse :P 19:43 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:43 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 19:48 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50 if I knew I was anywhere near the fastest time I would have played differently. I think I sad idling yesterday without saving. Like I went and took a shower etc. I never think about speed playing evil, ya know? 19:51 good that you didnt 19:51 and tariru did it in like 45 mins less and 30k turns less lol 19:51 any deviation from how you did that game would have resulted ina different outcome 19:51 i suppose 19:51 3rd place is like 6 hours more ! 19:52 6.5 19:52 only 16 people have ascended. I didn't realize that either 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 2456 points, T:5579, killed by a jaguar 19:53 we need to get more people playing (i likea da bones) 19:54 we're fine 19:54 i just think it's such a fun game, k2... people are missing out imo 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:2923 19:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3c_pJ_CLJQ 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1444 points, T:2925, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:54 hehe 19:55 not kissing your butt. it's really really fun 19:58 thanks. but yeah i'm not concerned about how many ppl play. if its fun for me and my friends, yay 19:58 if other people find it fun, more yay 19:58 if not, still yay 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 327 points, T:938, poisoned by a jumping spider 19:58 oh i know. I'm just saying i think maybe people are intimadated or something, and they are missing out 19:59 i can live with indimitated 19:59 bah. every time i start to have fun, the nasty developer nerfs something 19:59 intimidated 19:59 lol hothraxxa 19:59 errmahgerd i cant spell 19:59 i know i didn't spell it right either 19:59 i have to say i'm not having fun in order to stop the nerfs 20:00 also, congrats rebatela. for a long time a lawful giant monk was nearly impossible 20:00 i got close a bunch 20:00 and thank you :) 20:01 having a tough time IRL so it cheered me up 20:01 you've convinced me to keep banging my head against the evilhack wall! 20:01 \o/ 20:01 wall, let me introduce you to head 20:01 i just looked at the speedrun scoreboard. i didn't realize i had a low turncount evilhack ascension 20:01 you're gonna get it bouqet 20:02 how did that happen? 20:02 yeah i do i LOT of turns. I overprepare, polypile, altar camp etc. 20:02 for me, getting comfortable with a variant requires establishing how it differs from vanilla. Once I can see what's different I can get on with it. 20:03 yeah, evil has become my vanilla 20:03 i used to be like that 20:03 but now i have no idea what vanilla is like 20:03 evilhack isn't very different. Splicehack is very different and I've managed to ascend under crazy conditions a number of times. 20:03 it's not crazy different like dnh 20:03 so if I can get through splice, I can probably get through evil 20:03 you will 20:03 you're wayyyy better than me 20:03 dnh looks awesome, but it's too different for my blood. 20:03 aw schucks 20:03 the closest i get to vanilla is in november 20:04 i just realized i have a vanilla game where i am STACKED/OP ready to ascend 20:05 not sure why i haven't finished it 20:05 splicehack is slash'em reincarnated with even more stuff that antigulp invented 20:05 i just realized my gnome wizard is on soko 2 with no ac, no offense, and the only spell i can cast reliably is force bolt 20:06 i do have reflection and a boh 20:06 and i did stay at a holiday inn last night 20:07 no wait, i lied, i can also cast detect food 20:07 lol 20:07 evilhack would probably have more stuff than it currently has if I were a better programmer 20:08 like doggo bobble hats? 20:08 you picked up c pretty damn quick man 20:08 but i dont intend to stray too far from vanilla - its nice to be able to play a variant and not feel completely lost 20:08 that's what i love about evil 20:08 and i know I'm not alone there 20:08 hothraxxa: go make some nice bones for us 20:08 you don't need to learn a new game 20:09 i kinda felt that way about dnethack, especially after having ascended it recently 20:09 I think evil hits the sweet spot. 20:09 i'm in soko, no bones for you 20:09 amateurhour had to spoil me on quite a few things 20:09 w/ programming? 20:09 if soko could leave bones, it would be a packed cemetary with "bouquet" tombstones on every square 20:09 no with winning dnh 20:10 besides, i don't want to take away arahael's job 20:10 haha 20:10 he leaves great bones. hoarder 20:10 i leave good bones too i think 20:10 if anyone is finding my bones, they're not mentioning it 20:11 i don't think i ever have 20:11 i left a lot trying to get a tourist started 20:11 K2: I kind of wish I could look over your shoulder when you work on the evilhack codebase. I've done some dinking around myself, but I don't have a plan and usually just do dumb stuff like 100-shot dagger storms. 20:11 rebatela: Which, I think, is impressive given my typical St is 10. 20:11 well i died a lot. not sure about the bones 20:11 bouquet :) 20:11 hothraxxa: there's often hothraxxa tombstones in votd 20:12 I come across the usual names from irc there 20:12 heh. those come from the top scores list i think 20:12 twice i've encountered demogorgon in VOTD when it's not a bones level. What can gate him in there? 20:12 the bearded axe thing, that just came to me yesterday. I had plans for a new dwarvish weapon but the whole disarming weapon/shield thing was a 'oh snap' moment 20:12 not that i score high, i ignore score-boosting 20:12 I think there's a chance any & can gate a prince in 20:12 i guess so 20:13 is that vanilla behavior though? 20:13 pretty sure it is 20:13 crazy 20:13 if I play a sword wielding class I usually keep demonbane in inventory and wield it around any &. 20:14 I hate when a demon prince shows up unexpected. 20:14 party crasher 20:14 hothraxxa: I always try to load up on score boosting items and kill the riders as often as possible. Thus my extinctionist runs 20:14 high scores for life 20:15 i leave all my artifacts in my stash, same with gems 20:15 well not all, but you know what i mean 20:16 lol for a sec there i thought i broke the kathryn birthday commit 20:16 forgot my wizmode box is on UTC time, its her birthday there already 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1978 20:17 arahael, yeah I couldn't lift your BoH when i found your bones the other day even after dropping everything i had. Lot of stuff vanished, but i still got a ton out of it once i could pick up and uncurse 20:17 rebatela, next time zap a wand of cancellation at it 20:18 yeah i know 20:18 dumb 20:18 :P 20:18 rebatela: Ouch. Generally if i"m an illithid, assume that everything I have is useful. I can't carry rubbish. 20:18 rebatela: Eg, even gems tend to be more likely to be identifeid. 20:18 like i said i was really rusty. crazy chick made me crazy 20:18 she's gone though. abandoned me on xmas day :( 20:18 now she wants to move back lol 20:19 dont do it 20:20 i've had my awful experience with Crazy Chick™ dont do it 20:20 i dont care how good the sex is, dont do it 20:20 Gotta get that out of your system when you're young. 20:20 dont - do - it 20:20 yeah... she's an ex. like my FIRST girlfriend 25 years ago 20:21 do it not, as yoda would say 20:21 so we love each other, but just friends these days 20:21 The trick is to out-crazy them. 20:21 hehe 20:21 we're both pretty nutz 20:22 :) 20:22 when I'm confronted by crazy people on the street I like to turn it into a competition. 20:23 yeah. i talk to street people alll the time 20:24 i know them all in harvard sq, boston etc. and my home town obviously 20:24 but i walk everywhere 20:24 i've met some of the coolest people that way though 20:24 covid has really screwed them over 20:25 ya, no time to go to the usual places since everythings locked down. 20:28 its basically been work/home for me since covid 20:28 a couple exceptions here and there maybe 20:30 heh. I've been working from home since 1998! 20:31 \/flex 20:33 \_^_(-_-)_^_/ 20:33 yeah. I'm out of work. trying to figure something out 20:33 could really use that 1400 if we ever get it 20:34 :/ 20:35 why did I think rebatela lived in europe 20:35 i wish 20:35 masshole here 20:35 i don't have the accent though ( i can speak it though ) 20:36 where are you again aosdict? 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2862 20:36 running to store. bb in a bit 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4029 points, T:3193, killed by a killer bee 20:42 I think aosdict is like Tom Bombadill on the apalachian trail. That's what I picture, anyway. 20:49 -!- arahael has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.7.1] 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 601 points, T:1636, killed by a piranha, while sleeping 20:52 no, tom bombadil would be someone like the nice guy in maine who saw me at a trailhead and ended up giving me food and shelter for the next two days out of the goodness of his heart 20:53 rebatela: NYC 20:53 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:20 gonna get to bed early for a change. gnite all 21:39 aosdict: oh cool! 21:39 yankees fan? 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) stole 800 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kabalebo's general store, on T:7683 22:23 nah 22:23 k2: I dunno if that's a bug. But I didn't leave the shop with anything. It lets you into that free space one step into the shop where I dropped the item and left 22:23 i didn't even leave the store with anything 22:23 aosdict: it's cool. I just like the rivalry (yankees suck ;) ) 22:24 it's happened a bunch of times to me (the shop thing) 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8581 22:32 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5960 22:35 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 10526 points, T:9170, killed by an energy vortex 22:37 rebatela: well I used to live in mass, so I agree with you there 22:37 '04 was a good season 22:37 oh man... 22:38 04 was amazing 22:39 my ex is from WV, but i got my stepson and biological son to be rabid Boston sports fans (and they now live in NY) 22:39 my BIL hates it. They are all steelers fans etc. 22:40 did you live in western MA ? I feel like we've talked about it 22:40 I used to live in Amherst area (went to umass) 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6094 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4152 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 5123 points, T:4381, killed by a dwarf lord 23:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:30 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 23:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4490 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10324