00:02 easy fix 00:06 aosdict: and again, bucs solved them the last time they met and they just... did mostly the same thing they did then 00:06 e.g. zone defense, Mahomes had problems with the fucking raiders behind that shit 00:15 it sounds like they have problems with pirates in general then 00:19 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtVBA 00:19 [EvilHack] k21971 1139c0f - Some minor fixes to the racial priests and priestesses commit. 00:37 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 00:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40 K2: Simple fix - Elves, etc, are barred from High Altars. Like having a female Pope. 00:41 already fixed it 00:41 :P 00:41 Nice. 00:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtVRp 00:49 [EvilHack] k21971 2aeacc8 - Bit of code formatting clean-up (racial shopkeepers). 00:50 bleh missed one line 00:50 ah well 00:57 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 01:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 64729 points, T:23052, poisoned by a locust 02:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:37 Woah. A Vampire Mage... In soko... Xp 8... Must be a chameleon. 03:41 Yes, must be 03:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7606 points, T:4442, killed by a splash of acid 03:46 ^^ From the vampire mage. I didn't quite stay away far enough. 03:49 sokoban is a trap. 03:49 "There is always cheese in a mousetrap" 03:55 So true. 04:52 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:15 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 552 points, T:852, killed by a gnome lady, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4503 06:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gecko corpse, on T:4725 06:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:40801 06:28 Hmm. So it seems that prayer doesn't uncurse wielded pickaxes. 06:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40840 06:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:47 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 07:11 Worst minetown... Ever. 07:12 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 07:12 Even orctown has better shops. This one had just two... Izchak, (2x3, with one taken by a mimic), and Cire Htims, with their 2x2 shop. 07:12 That's... It. 07:13 yeah sometimes they suck 07:13 btw, pickaxe is single-handed so it is only considered a minor problem 07:14 Oh, curious. Single-handed? 07:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:14 yeah 07:14 mattock is double-handed 07:14 Is mattock much faster? 07:14 at killing things, it is 07:15 not at digging I think 07:15 related epic idea of pwnage: https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/3218.html 07:15 lol 07:16 Weird, i'd have figured that using it two-handed would be faster. 07:16 i *think* there might be a bonus for digging with a positively enchanted implement. 07:16 there is 07:17 I expect mattocks are positively enchanted more frequently than pick-axes (which I afaik are not ever are generated with positive enchantment) 07:18 as a tool pick-axes are usually uncursed when you find them 07:18 but I really don't know anything. it's all cargo-cult mishmash over here 07:18 on monks I tend to use my spare enchant weapon scrolls on a pickaxe 07:18 yeah, I'm a little curious where the cursed pick-axe came from 07:19 amateurhour: Nifty idea. 07:20 could be from a real or fake bones pile 07:21 so the usually uncursed thing... not all tools are "usually uncursed", right? 07:22 like, candles for example 07:22 good point... 07:22 i mean, yes, in a sense, uncursed is more likely than cursed, but... 07:22 cursed tools do show up 07:22 and not just from bones 07:23 wiki says: "Tools created by normal random generation are always uncursed" 07:23 but candles seem different 07:24 and lamps 07:25 okay, so in src/mkobj.c, there's a function mksobj(): "create a specific type of object" 07:27 I wonder if stuff in shops or in Vlad's tower is considered "normal random generation" 07:28 under the TOOL_CLASS case, it looks like the clauses for some tools have blessorcurse (can of grease, eg) and some don't (tinning kit) 07:28 ah... 07:28 aosdict the wiki is lying 07:29 Hmm. I have two different lamps. 07:30 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:31 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 07:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10468 07:37 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 07:37 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:47 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 07:48 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:23 amateurhour in that game where I ascended as vampire mage, I wonder if I missed a trick by not genociding humans on astral. 08:24 that should have wiped out all the priests and NPC's 08:27 you cant geno those 08:28 you can when polymorphed I think 08:28 testing for science 08:28 not sure if it genos the priests and npcs though (might have pre-emptively ruined fun :P ) 08:29 but you can geno @ when poly'd generally and live 08:29 that would take blessed poly 08:29 that is different in evilhack 08:30 'You aren't permitted to genocide aligned priests. You aren't permitted to genocide high priests.' 08:30 *blessed geno, sorry 08:30 ah ok... 08:30 NPC's are off limits also 08:30 ah no fun allowed 08:31 i did a blessed geno @ and got a laundry list of nope 08:31 however 08:31 uncursed geno of human? 08:31 i did this as a dwarf rogue and when it got to rogue i died anyways 08:32 in vanilla you stay alive whilst you remain poly'd 08:32 iirc 08:32 yeah 08:32 but there's still that list of nope 08:32 'You aren't permitted to genocide shopkeepers. You aren't permitted to genocide guards. You aren't permitted to genocide prisoners. You aren't permitted to genocide the Oracle.' 08:32 ^ but racial shopkeepers can be 08:33 which technically has been wrong this whole time 08:33 damn if those npcs weren't arbitrarily no-geno and blessed geno worked like vanilla then genoing @ in astral would be the ultimate 200iq move 08:33 pretty sure evilhack's blessed geno doesn't even geno the player 08:33 it will 08:33 i just said it did :P 08:34 serves them right :-) 08:34 ^ that 08:35 feature request: make npcs not no-geno 08:35 the racial priests commit i made last night came out really well 08:35 amateurhour: nerp 08:36 needs a couple more minor tweaks 08:37 also, MOAR homunculi \o/ 08:38 yay \o/ 08:39 amateurhour, from the wiki: 'Genociding @ while polymorphed will result in a YAFM: "You feel dead inside." You will die if you revert back to your normal form, and the only way to survive is by wearing an amulet of unchanging, or either ascend or escape the dungeon before you unpolymorph.' 08:47 yeah that's why it'd be epic 08:47 haha. ha. um... 08:47 if you could do it 08:47 but you can't, another high iq strategy ruined 08:48 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 08:49 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49 isn't the highest iq strat doing '<' on T:1? 08:49 also, the least fun? 08:51 * tinklebear maybe is too dumb to understand 08:51 escaping the dungeon doesn't win the game, why would that be high iq? 08:51 "win the game" 08:51 lol 08:51 ? 08:51 might've missed the context, this is about genoing npcs on astral plane 08:51 I don't get it 08:52 context was me ascending as vampire mage wearing an amulet of unchanging 08:52 NPC's will never be a valid geno target 08:52 boooo 08:52 amateurhour is starting trouble again :) 08:52 hissss 08:53 go play slex 08:53 :P 08:53 I am playing slex 08:53 lol 08:53 hahah 08:53 mobileuser: ascending is win. '<' is literally ascending. there's nothing to get. 08:54 ah... 08:54 different meanings of "ascending" 08:55 :D 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:61164 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:61283 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) murdered Buster, her faithful vampire mage, on T:61438 09:23 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:25 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 09:32 Buster ;( 09:33 came back from being stoned peaceful :/ 09:33 So buster shall have a nice long life in hell 09:33 but the hell where he's still alive 09:33 that's a comforting thought 09:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:49254 10:12 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 10:40 I wonder... Could I ooze under the soko doors as an acid blob, to avoid opening them? ;) Just a thought. I dont' have poly control to test that. 10:41 I seem to remember K2 thought of that 10:42 if you think it'd let you get multiple prizes expect disappointment 10:42 enemies destroyed the doors for more once, the other prizes get yeeted when you pick one up 10:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 51646 points, T:17334, killed by a winged gargoyle 10:43 amateurhour: Indeed, but it might've let me identify which type is which. 10:43 please try though 10:43 :) 10:43 lol 10:43 Anyway, winged gargoyle got me. :( One hit is crazy damaging. I then teleported it right next to me. 10:44 G'night! 11:05 gnite arahael 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Lord Carnarvon, on T:62447 11:13 wow you really don't care for your quest artifact 11:13 Madness.... madness.... 11:14 Xiuhcoatl is awesome! 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:62570 11:15 uh... 11:15 :-) 11:15 Huhetotl is the way! 11:15 yeah I don't think he cares about that mobileuser 11:15 rofl! 11:15 good job sticking it to old Lord Carnivore 11:15 His COLLEGE is a joke 11:15 There ARE NO BOOKS 11:15 there ARE NO EXHIBITS 11:15 BURN IT DOWN 11:16 \o/ 11:16 Just stodgy old assholes wandering about 11:16 From their ashes shall arise greatness 11:16 your grants have been revoked! 11:16 They thought tenure would protect them 11:17 Behold, the deceit of academia! 11:22 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 11:24 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Huhetotl, on T:64288 11:58 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "good night, sleep tight"] 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 696 points, T:2134, killed by a bone devil of Poseidon 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:59508 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:59509 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a crested helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2777 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3154 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2280 points, T:4478, killed by a gnome 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:596 13:55 seems to be a current theme with killing quest leaders 14:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 14:11 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:15909 14:18 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:59515 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Mog, on T:43817 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:64942 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64944 14:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:17619 14:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:18404 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 2138 points, T:6217, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:48 bouquet it doesnt happen very frequently 14:48 quest leaders are pretty tough 14:49 plus killing them can really mess up your standing with your deity 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 the sword of bheleu", on T:18910 14:49 however, there's been at least 1-2 asc where the player killed their quest leader, so its doable and you can win 14:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:49 I still have yet to see Bheleu in the wild 14:50 i think i've seen it random spawn once 14:50 otherwise you have to wish for it 14:50 You can't get it as a sac gift? 14:50 doable i suppose if chaotic 14:51 i was thinking of making that sword the prize at the end of the lich quest i have planned 14:51 brb 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:59843 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59846 14:55 whups! nearly dropped the amulet on the altar out of habit 15:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:12 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 15:14 ha! i've done that a couple times with amulet, hothraxxa and had to find it 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:62390 15:23 sorry, Neferet! 15:24 how are you going to ascend if you don't even know the beatitude of the amulet you're carrying smh 15:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:49843 15:26 FYI, the wiki doesn't mention that Neferet (and probably all quest leaders) are immune to stoning, but she is. I whacked her with a c a couple times and she remained fleshy. 15:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a crested helmet entrusted to her by Set, on T:19721 15:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:19932 15:31 hah! marvin the sorcerer walked onto a poly trap and is now a black dragon. not sure why he didn't have mr 15:37 hothraxxa the gear templates i made for the NPC's, they dont always have MR or reflection 15:47 You smite it. You kill it! You try to feel what is lying here on the floor. You feel here a beholder corpse. 15:47 and that, kids, is why you should wear a blindfold on your evilhack ascension run 15:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 121723 points, T:21609, killed by a minotaur 15:48 k2: i would have thought they'd get the basic role kit though 15:48 they do 15:48 what level are you when it spawned? 15:48 hm. i'm xl18 15:49 oh i see why you're asking - sorcerer 15:49 this is one of the crowd that spawns after you start up with the amulet 15:49 the basic template doesnt apply except on astral if i recall 15:49 i bet they all have a boh 15:49 the ones wondering around in the dungeon is a diff template which is based on your exp level at the time they spawn 15:50 *wandering 15:50 i saw about 15 npcs before the invocation. not a single boh among them 15:50 only a 25% chance now of boh with npc 15:50 i know. 15 in a row though 15:50 or i guess in your case with this particular game, 0% 15:51 i never needed one from them. just an observation 15:51 nothing wrong 15:51 just weird rng luck 15:52 i have this great collection of oilskin sacks though. want to come back to my stash and see? *wink, wink* 15:52 hah 15:53 !lastgame microlance 15:53 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1612743118.evil.html 15:55 "The invisible shambling horror charms you. You gladly start removing your helm." WTF???? 15:55 Pretty evil 15:56 things like this is why I avoid meleeing shambling horrors at all times 15:56 mine are part leprechaun, part minotaur, part something with displacement 15:56 Minotaur sure did get a lot of rounds in without response 15:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://git.io/JtwnD 15:59 [EvilHack] k21971 3394c6b - More tweaks to racial priests/priestesses. 16:03 well shit. somehow i missed the magic marker in the sanctum :( 16:04 It's in the crystal chest :-( 16:07 i just forgot about it 16:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49944 16:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49945 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:49959 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "historic very uncursed thoroughly locked poisoned rustproof magic marker named i knew i forgot something in the sanctum", on T:61587 16:20 last magic marker was 0:32. this one is 0:33 16:21 triomphe! 16:21 it's 33 > 32 16:21 true 16:22 you can't argue with facts 16:22 hothraxxa has upset the RNG 16:23 it's my wishes. rngeezus is fed up parsing them 16:24 maybe your next wish should include the bestest most sincere canadian apology you can muster 16:25 hrm 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:61613 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided electric eels, on T:61797 16:56 VaderFLAG how are you still able to carry Xiuhcoatl after your alignment change 16:56 Same class exception 16:56 Only get blasted 16:56 Ah didn't know that, thx 16:57 And it blasts me every time it returns after I throw it, which I find super fun 16:57 lol 16:58 a small token of revenge from Lord Carnarvon 16:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:58 ha, that's right 17:03 it seems everbody hates locusts 17:03 now a balrog went whipping at one 17:05 hi 17:05 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:50100 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:50103 17:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided lava gremlins, on T:50106 17:16 fuck the plane of water 17:21 I forgot to pack a wand of opening, had to go back for the bell I dropped earlier 17:35 hothraxxa is home 17:35 time for a special wish? :-) 17:36 ouch spelling mistake threatens 17:36 thoroughly historic iron chains? 17:37 spotted 17:37 phew 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "historic blessed very fixed corrodeproof unlabeled greased figurine of a woodchuck named carl. who predicts six more weeks of winter", on T:62374 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased partly eaten thoroughly partly eaten very figurine of a giant cockroach named archy, in fond memory or don marquis", on T:62376 17:40 \o/ 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 3689947 points, T:62378, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1612050190.evil.html 17:40 congrats hothraxxa! 17:40 thanks malor 17:40 oops 17:41 lol 17:44 the typos, the typos 17:45 congrats hothraxxa 17:46 ty 17:55 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3922 17:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:59 first human chaotic barbarian 17:59 odd 17:59 odd but true 18:00 \o/ hothraxxa 18:00 Nice going out in wish style 18:00 i have been inspired by k2 18:01 both carl and archy, although i doubt i'll bring along archy that often 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:02 \o/ 18:04 next time you play, do an encyclopedia search for 'carl' 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed commodore96's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4023 18:06 The launch of the successor to the Commodore 64 was a lot bumpier than planned 18:11 I had a C128. Could program some sick sprites in assembly bitd. 18:13 TRS-80 woop 18:21 i had a trs-80 with a mod that let me run cp/m 18:23 umbire: that can be said about virtually every launch ever 18:23 was joke 18:24 you call c128 a joke? defend yourself you cad 18:25 fully 64 more kilobutts to utilize! 18:28 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JtwRH 18:28 [EvilHack] entrez af668d4 - Use quotes for spoken text from artifact defenders 18:28 [EvilHack] k21971 731f066 - Merge pull request #43 from entrez/artidefender-verbalize 18:28 ^ nice qt 18:29 k2: new plane of water when 18:29 less bubbles more water? 18:29 that was gawdawful 18:30 you realize thats vanilla plane of water right 18:30 i do 18:30 you don't have to use vanilla 18:30 but... but... 18:30 you make a better one, submit pr 18:30 aosict does it all the time 18:30 ... 18:31 you don't want aosdict to get ahead of you do you? 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:64069 18:31 brb 18:31 and i have my answer 18:31 he ran 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:64078 18:31 scared of aosdict for sure 18:32 phone call brb 18:33 one simple change would make plane of water tolerable: don't float the portal around 18:41 congrats on ascension hothraxxa 18:42 thanks 18:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50 so I am beating K2 in 1) wit 2) pull requests 18:54 why haven't YOU fixed the plane of air then? 18:54 and don't tell me it isn't broken, because it's totally fucked 19:00 hm. i didn't get credit for elberethless 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had an opera cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:5138 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had an ornamental cope entrusted to her by Odin, on T:5222 19:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:15 hm. i didn't get credit for elberethless <--- nethackscoreboard ? 19:15 cuz that's been broken for awhile now 19:15 maybe someday aoei will fix it 19:16 what did you do to it k2 19:16 is it some bitfield 19:17 the bitfield order changed back around version 0.4.x 19:17 not at the beginning, but right around where e-word conduct was 19:38 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 19:41 oh damn 19:41 then all the pre-0.4.x conducts will be wrong on the scoreboard now 19:42 still need to add logic to handle differences across versions 19:42 but the latest ones will be correct now at least lol 19:43 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 19:43 should be a conduct for ascending without killing a rider 19:44 which i just did 19:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class g, on T:66391 19:58 heh, except gremlins 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:66393 19:59 :P 20:01 I've got my EoA so I can polypile like mad now 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:66396 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class V, on T:66397 20:03 * tinklebear wonders how hothraxxa managed to keep all those dragons from killing a rider 20:07 is Katharine the Icequeen difficult like Sheol or easier? 20:08 its challenging 20:08 and is this some reference to someone's old girlfriend or an homage to a daughter's disney hero? 20:08 Kathryn is my daughter 20:08 our dogs are in it too 20:09 she loves the movie Frozen 20:10 Cool! 20:12 haha nice 20:13 was fun to make 20:14 mini-me asks me every so often if her character has killed anyone again 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 668 points, T:1999, killed by a golden naga hatchling 20:17 damn near killed me in my last game. i was down to 1 hp 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:67252 20:18 bouquet: you will need a wand of opening or be able to cast knock to get the full benefit 20:19 ok. I have knock, but it's forgot. (that rhymed in my head) 20:19 also, i think the ice queen is the coolest side quest in all the variants 20:19 ^ see what i did there 20:20 it's challenging and the prize is really worth it 20:20 it really is, sidequest goals tbh 20:27 well, that was a good run 20:27 I was literaly going to high ground to polypile for a ring of levitation :( 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 571646 points, T:67552, drowned in a pool of water, while fumbling 20:29 this is all Tom Brady's fault. 20:31 !lastgame bouquet 20:31 tinklebear: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1611884702.evil.html 20:31 :/ 20:31 oo, bad luck, bouquet 20:32 whevs 20:33 I knew walking around on ice was a bad idea. 20:34 now I have a better feeling for the mid game. 20:36 that run had orctown, no temples, no ludios, and very few spellbooks. Not optimal for a wizard. 20:43 bouquet did you find the journal when you entered the ice queen branch? 20:44 and hothraxxa thanks 20:49 wand of fire in there is super bad luck - they're supposed to be extra rare in the ice realm right? 20:52 yes 20:55 ya, I read it. My reading comprehension stats are pretty low. 20:57 could really use magic markers, though. That's a major bummer than they can't be polypiled, IMO 20:59 this is the way 21:00 ya, evil, I get it. 21:00 kicking around an idea in my head - if you saw a dwarf referred to as a 'mountain dwarf' instead of just 'dwarf' - cool? meh? wtf? 21:00 kinda like how you see hill orcs instead of just orcs 21:00 VaderFLAG: it looks to me like there approx 45% chance of subbing a non-fire wand when normal dungeon would give fire as random offensive item (under rnd_offensive_item in muse.c) 21:01 unnecessary, imo 21:01 well i have a reason 21:01 not strictly cosmetic 21:01 then it's probably necessary 21:01 they come with scrolls of earth? 21:01 VaderFLAG: so "extra rare" is maybe an exaggeration 21:01 heh no, they'd be exactly the same, just a slight name change 21:02 tinklebear: more rare then? 21:02 more rarerly 21:02 oh yes, certainly K2 21:03 "substantially less likely" 21:03 :) 21:03 what distinguishes a mtn dwarf from a regular dwarf? 21:03 are they musical dwarves? Can they have tonal instruments? 21:03 in this case it would be name only. but code-wise it would solve a mini-dilema i am experiencing 21:04 then solve that dilema! 21:04 in ad&d if you played a dwarf you were typically a hill or mountain dorf 21:04 and there are other subraces 21:04 same with gnomes 21:06 I think you have to ask yourself (as a variant author) "do I want to be more slexy, or more vanillay?" 21:07 neither 21:07 moar evil 21:07 ^ that 21:07 but also cool 21:07 and neato 21:07 and froody 21:07 lol! 21:08 :P 21:09 Well, it's cool that I get the option to "cast advanced spell (y/n)" 21:09 yes 21:10 what's cool to me as a player is the feeling of growth as the game progresses. Anything that attends to that is cool in my book 21:11 i'm trying :) 21:11 wait, what? does this mean you can advance attack spells to skilled but still cast ray-type fireballs? 21:11 ya! 21:11 omg! 21:11 IKR! 21:11 that is awesome 21:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12 fireballs, cone of cold, etc 21:12 woot 21:12 acid blast too i think 21:12 lightning bolt spell is always a ray 21:13 yup i'm gonna do this 21:13 difficult for the sake of being difficult isn't good for game play. 21:13 prepare for mountain dwarves and rock gnomes 21:13 \m/ 21:15 if there's a linear challenge (branch, quest, puzzle) there needs to be a worthy reward at the end. Maybe a bag of magic markers? 21:16 bouquet how spoiled do you want to be 21:17 *gold* magic markers! 21:17 I'm used to a certain lifestyle. 21:17 lol 21:17 GME to the moon 21:17 did you see how many mm I had in that extinctionist run? 21:18 over 9000! 21:18 but seriously, how spoiled do you want to be right now about the ice queen branch? 21:18 lol 9000?? 21:18 I already played it in wiz mode 21:18 i see 21:19 every mousetrap has its cheese 21:19 so do you know what awaits you should you complete the ice queen branch 21:19 of course! I'll just need you to restore my last save point and I'll get right on that ;) 21:20 lol 21:20 j/k... that was one of those runs that was very unsatisfying all the way through. I was only continuing because of inertia 21:21 understandable 21:21 i've had a few like that 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:67271 21:22 wooo VaderFLAG go 21:22 I prefer wizard games when there's spellbooks everywhere 21:22 shocker 21:22 finding that 8x12 scroll shop 21:22 Had to polypile for a genocide scroll to get some gold dragons.... no scales 21:22 Tearing down then setting up again right after the poly setup is such a pain 21:23 omg that's so hawt 21:24 not hot... but 'hawt' 21:30 I forget, does cursed invis work on Rodney from outside the tower? 21:30 Or did that get changed 21:31 i didnt mess with that 21:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 21:38 Maybe there was a change around 3.6 hmmm. I feel like pet mind flayers used to wake him up and that got fixed or something 21:38 Guess I'll test it out 21:40 I'm so glad diluted potions don't raise maxhp by as much 21:41 it's really insane how many extra healing you can whip up by the end of a normal game 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2683 points, T:3815, killed by a fire ant 23:06 -!- qt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06 -!- qt_ has joined #evilhack 23:15 -!- qt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:42 yeah this worked out nicely. glad i did it 23:42 this'll add a bit more flavor to the early game and I wont have to force any extra flags onto priests or shopkeepers 23:42 commit coming soon 23:44 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 23:47 K2: o: ? 23:47 Hey stenno 23:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]