00:00 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 186 points, T:1276, killed by a small mimic 00:10 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 00:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:50235 00:25 YAY!! 00:28 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:28 Gud jerb. 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12904 00:33 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 00:38 so, aside from the unhittable dwarf queen on an intermediate level, sokoban's been real smooth 00:39 so, now that i'm ready to open the door to the final zoo, what's it going to be? 00:39 not a shapechanger. i've got telepathy, and been watching. 00:39 my money is on a beholder 00:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:16342 00:40 Oops. 00:41 is Aphrodite beauty, love? both? 00:41 The fuck do you mean "oops" 00:41 tinklebear: Probably high-AC gear 00:42 I had that problem with a previous Rogue iirc, had to use a wand to deal with them but it was p. worth 00:42 Umbire: I miss-stepped, and Aphrodite died. 00:42 (it was a dwarf king also) 00:42 arahael: And lemme guess, Aphrodite's face just *happened* to be in the way 00:43 Yep. 00:43 Repeatedly. 00:45 No, just the once. 00:47 Umbire: Martial arts is *awesome*. :) 00:47 It usually only takes one hit with these nymphs. 00:47 Most nymphs are p. fragile, yeah 00:48 On that note, if/when I ever make a variant, I wanna do more with "monster" races. 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 454 points, T:1287, killed by a giant mimic 00:52 -!- telegarn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:21314 01:02 well, if there was anything out of the ordinary in the zoo, it didn't leave a corpse 01:03 gotten so used to there being some horrible twist to the final soko level 01:04 That's more happenstance than anything 01:04 Mine was my first gel cube and someone mounting a peaceful white unicorn to try to murder me with 01:05 yeah, that's the kind of thing I was expecting 01:06 player monster with wand of death, shapechanger in alhoon form, etc 01:06 I mean it sounds scarier than it actually was 01:07 Still p. difficult for my skill level 01:08 been wiped out by air E twice. AC -16? pfft. dead in three turns 01:10 Sokoban's air elementals will gladly slap your shit, this is true across all versions 01:12 It's probably sensible for people to go down a few more levels first, get their experience level up accordingly, and THEN go back to soko, but nobody does that. 01:12 I do. 01:12 But I'm a coward. :D 01:17 Heh. :) 01:17 I know a few other people who do, too, but I don't. 01:17 And since I don't, I assume nobody else does either. ;) 01:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24172 01:35 Hmm... Cleaver... As monk... That could be interesting... 01:36 :thinking: 01:36 Not only first sacrifice gift, but also first sacrifice, too. 01:36 Jumping spider. 01:40 Damn, forgot that resets the prayer timeout. 01:41 This is going to be painful to get back. I need that holy water. 01:41 Strength drain, eh? 01:42 No, just got displeased. 01:42 I #pray'ed, and the god was displeased. 01:42 Means they're angry now. 01:42 !whereis arahael 01:42 tinklebear: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Mon Hum Fem Neu) T:24096 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 01:43 so not chaotic. could be worse! 01:43 Yeah. Only aligned altar so far. Oh, that's right! 01:43 Not chaotic! 01:43 tinklebear: Thanks for teh reminder, I was so used to chaotic. :D 01:43 lol 01:44 well, good luck. 01:45 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "goodnight"] 01:46 arahael: Oh, displeased? 01:46 Doesn't seem like genuine honest-to-them anger, can result if you have bad Luck 01:46 Umbire: Yeah. Which means no holy water for a bit longer. Which means no blessing of the magic lamp. 01:46 And also means no blessing of the luckstone. 01:46 Just have to sac your luck back up 01:47 and/or wait out the time out 01:47 Yeah, on dlvl 2, though. Will be tedious. I think I'll go down to the minetown altar and at least get a bit of protection. 01:49 Hmm, and I'm thinking Cleaver is not a good weapon for me, I'll leave it with the priest. 01:57 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1440 points, T:2212, killed by a hill orc called Ogruka of Ulabaneu 02:11 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:00 Meh. Spears are indeed just totally impractical. 03:02 Not if you're a caveman. 03:02 ;3 03:03 On that note I leave ye 03:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12 Hmm. 03:12 * arahael is no caveman. 03:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible microlance's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:23275 03:33 -!- commonlylen has joined #evilhack 04:20 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40 Monk with St:6 is no fun at all! 04:51 -!- commonlylen has quit [K-Lined] 04:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed potions of restore ability", on T:32580 05:03 Confusing... 05:03 > You feel guilty. This titanothere corpse tastes terrible! 05:03 > You now detect it where the vampire bat was. 05:03 the corpse teleported? 05:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of buckled boots entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:34593 05:35 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 183318 points, T:35033, killed by a priest of Chih Sung-tzu, while paralyzed by a monster 05:40 D'oh. 05:41 Learnt a few decent lessons in that game though. Namely if there's a disgustingly powerful NPC, don't use all your resources trying to kill it, if it turns out that a monk with Grand Master Martial Arts can't kill it. 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 2208 points, T:2328, quit 07:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 1565 points, T:1896, quit 07:24 orctown no thanks 07:31 instead of a friendly town with shops, dungeon contained a horde of orcs who had looted everything. 2/10, would not quest again. 07:31 !setmintc 3000 07:31 rebatela: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for rebatela set to 3000 07:32 it just sucks not being able to buy protection as a (giant) monk 07:32 I usually play it.. just wasn't in the mood 07:59 !lastgame arahael 07:59 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1612520753.evil.html 08:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own fireball 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (orcs), on T:1 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 254 points, T:1199, killed by a system shock 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:56 !setmintc post163 1000 08:56 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for post163 set to 1000 08:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:57 !setmintc post163 0 08:57 amateurhour: Usage: !setmintc [turncount] 08:57 !setmintc post163 1 08:57 amateurhour: Usage: !setmintc [turncount] 08:57 :( 08:57 you not admin 08:57 !giveadmin 08:57 nerp 09:13 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:40260 09:15 \o/ 09:16 amateurhour: you could just /nick to post163 for a minute 09:19 nickhack 09:23 good thinking, but I know what would happen 09:23 someone would notice and it'd reveal that I all along have been pots 09:25 -!- pots163 has joined #evilhack 09:25 !setmintc 1 09:25 pots163: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for pots163 set to 1 09:25 -!- pots163 has quit [Client Quit] 09:25 when actually I am Tariru roleplaying as someone bad at the game 09:27 lol 09:38 fuck me 09:38 nazgul shatters my wand of death. i take out my other one 1:0. read charging and it explodes 09:40 .29% 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 30964 points, T:17028, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:56578 09:49 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:59 hothraxxa that is extremely bad luck 10:00 !lastgame dbanethacker 10:00 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1612550991.evil.html 10:00 "You climb up the stairs. The gelatinous cube touches you!" cruel... 10:22 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:40806 10:28 sigh 10:29 YANI: when a role has a guaranteed first sacrifice gift, the chances of getting gifted that are higher 10:29 ^ frustration reduction 10:30 that's not frustration reduction, that's straight up anti-evil 10:31 what do you think this is, nicehack? 10:31 \ 10:31 I'm still surprised it doesn't just give you them first 10:32 instead of like fumbling boots or whatever 10:35 yeah 10:35 this hasn't much to do with evil/nice, it's just a way to keep the player busy for longer 10:36 just adds grind 10:41 omg that upstairs gel cube attack 10:42 bought my first mechanical keyboard - gonna finaly take my nethack game to 100% 10:43 now you can play at the same speed but with soothing clickclacks to accompany you 10:44 Hopefully it's not much louder than the old creaky logitech I have now 10:44 what kind of keyswitches did you get? 10:44 cherry mx clear 10:45 won't be too loud then probs 10:45 I like blues but can't use them in the office or I get dirty looks 10:46 "you know, when we all had to work on TYPEWRITERS nobody would complain!!" 10:46 hahaha there's a guy in the office with an ibm model m and people call that loud 10:46 Serious business! 10:47 different room to me so idk how bad it is 10:49 I've used the same shitty cheap model for so long I'm worried I won't like it 10:49 Being old and set in your ways stinks! 10:50 have u tried not being old? 10:50 Repeatedly, and with no success 10:50 hmm, I guess you'll just have to try not being set in your ways instead then 10:51 another problem solved thanks to amateurhour 10:51 amateurhour solving problems over here with the power of BOOLEAN LOGIC 10:51 Have you considered being a life coach? 10:53 [an image of a type of bus referred to as a coach in the UK with the word LIFE written on the side] 10:53 let's just pretend I managed to find an image on google of that 10:53 Sorry my imagination has decayed with age too 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:41937 10:59 have u tried slicing your old keyboard to pieces with the burning power of seven suns? 11:00 I tried but it says I feel like I need some practice 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:42185 11:03 Hooboy is it my morning 11:03 jelly 11:03 Still no MR tho so I'm gonna get touch of death'd soon you just wait 11:04 no luck yet with polypiling scrolls? 11:04 I haven't started polying yet 11:04 didn't really play since I mentioned that yesterday 11:04 ah ok 11:04 also don't have a ton of scrolls 11:04 not sure what to do next 11:04 gonna go meditate on it 11:07 try for magicbane maybe 11:30 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 11:44 Gregg the Invisible Magician has what I want I bet! 11:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:49073 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:22812 12:20 there's a bug with the bag of the hesperides; looted on the ground it says "Do what with *the* Bag of the Hesperides?" as it should, but looted from your inventory it says "Do what with Bag of the Hesperides?" (no article) 12:20 or you know, not looted from your inventory but applied, whatever 12:21 maybe it's something to do with how yname works with articles that are part of the object name? 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5340 12:24 VaderFLAG three cheers for Gregg the Invisible Magician! 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:23597 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44504 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:8472 12:39 re the hesperides problem: it should be caught by 'obj->oartifact >= ART_XIUHCOATL', which is true of all the other Foo of the Bar artifacts, but it is separated from the others 12:40 "The giant zombie climbs off its saddled woolly mammoth." nice 12:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:41392 12:42 K2: this is a really simple way to fix it, I feel like the "proper" way would probably be to move it so that ART_BAG_OF_THE_HESPERIDES > ART_XIUHCOATL, but this should work too without breaking anything https://termbin.com/9hu7 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:10078 12:47 qt cool thanks 12:48 between virtual drill and trying to get 3 separate computers built and ready for monday, not by irc very much so far today 12:49 bleeeeh 12:49 * hothraxxa calls k2 to virtual attention 12:54 i'm doing virtual pushups 12:54 this is my last full drill by the way, got my official military retirement date yesterday 12:54 march 10th, done 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:23934 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:12937 13:14 congrats 13:15 thanks 13:15 btw when i tried to update evilhack (was running 0.5.0) i still wound up with v 0.5.0 13:15 i havent been able to re-create the getting more than max hp when orcus beats you with the wand of orcus 13:15 hothraxxa check the branch 13:16 hrm. not a huge problem 13:16 if you want the very lastest, pull master 13:16 latest 13:16 oh i guess that where i went wrong 13:16 there's a specific 0.6.0 branch also 13:16 let me try pull master 13:16 master branch is 0.7.0 13:17 which isnt too different from 0.6.0 (yet) 13:17 except for rodney randomly getting mr or reflection of course 13:18 and objects of excellence 13:18 forgive my ignorance, but how do i specify that to pull 13:20 if you've pulled the repo you can just checkout 0.6.0 13:20 git checkout 0.6.0 13:20 something like git checkout --track origin/0.6.0 13:20 git pull first though so you're current 13:20 hrm 13:24 nope, still getting 0.5.0 13:24 install paths different? 13:25 nope. i'll review the steps, must have gotten something wrong 13:26 dammit, duty calls. when i get back i'll try something and then i might bug you again 13:27 ok 13:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtaeU 13:33 [EvilHack] k21971 a1cf5d4 - Fix: instances where article was missing from the Bag of the Hesperides. 13:39 "The goblin outrider swings her bone orcish bow at the blue jelly" surprising... 13:41 berserker mode maybe? 13:42 yup 13:43 hmm 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:41830 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:25572 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 606 points, T:1484, killed by a clay golem, while praying 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14039 14:04 !setminrc 100000 14:09 k2: still winding up with 0.5.0 14:09 do 'git log' whats the top entry 14:11 commit 940bf876aa69bb04fa2769f4d5e71c203af8a232 (HEAD -> 0.6.0, origin/0.6.0) 14:12 so that's correct 14:12 make spotless 14:12 re-run setup for hints file 14:12 make all && make install 14:13 ah i've bben missing the make spotless step, maybe that's it 14:14 fuck me, still 0.5.0 14:15 oh I have a weird thing with evilhack compilation 14:15 where I have to delete the current binary or it thinks there's nothing to do 14:15 hrm 14:15 which hints file are you using 14:15 brb 14:16 for me i don't use anything except linux-debug, slightly modified 14:16 (to add/remove address sanitizer) 14:16 thats what i use too on my wizmode box 14:16 no muss no fuss 14:16 hothraxxa its like your link to the binary is pointing elsewhere 14:18 i'm using hints/linux 14:19 that should still overwrite any older binary 14:21 well it doesn't because i just checked and the binary is still the one i built last april 14:21 it does. did you use a different hints file or modify the last one? 14:26 here's what i've been doing: from the EvilHack directory, cd sys/unix then sudo ./setup.sh hints/linux 14:26 i've removed the old binary, done make all then make install. now i have no binary so it must be putting it somehwere else 14:28 so /home//eh/install/games/lib/evilhackdir 14:28 if you're using hints/linux 14:29 K2: what is a virtual drill? do they tell you to run 10 miles and you do laps around the house? 14:29 no 14:29 briefings, paperwork, etc 14:29 for me specifically, i'm just listening and providing feedback when warranted 14:31 i'm working on three tiers of homunculus so infidels arent stuck with a weak never growing up pet 14:31 what would be a good name for 2nd and 3rd tier as they grow up? 14:35 2nd tier could just be imp 14:36 but isn't it part of the infidel role balance that their pet is static and doesn't improve 14:37 there's no mention about not having a 3 tier pet and role balance 14:37 and trust me, infidels arent exactly the strongest starting out 14:38 yeah I thought that was the point, it's a tough role, that'part of the tou 14:38 toughness* 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16195 14:38 also, if homunculus -> imp, imp is weaker than a cat/dog 14:38 * aosdict vows never to type a quote mark again 14:38 again I don't see why it's necessary to make the infidel pet grow up into something comparable to a cat or dog 14:39 beause every other role pet does 14:39 aren't psuedodragons completely off of the cat/dog balance? 14:39 no 14:42 homunculus, elder homunculus, ancient homunculus 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 604 points, T:1466, killed by imitating a meat popsicle 14:42 but pseudodragon already has those titles 14:42 so? 14:42 i dont want them to be the same 14:43 I still disagree with having anything turn into an "ancient" form within two thousand turns 14:43 and aosdict, infidel having a three tiered pet will not magically make it over-balanced or somehow OP 14:43 you obviously havent played the role :) 14:43 I'm not saying that it will. 14:44 you were inferring it 14:44 I just don't see why all roles necessarily have to have a kitten analogue that grows into a housecat analogue that grows into a large cat analogue 14:44 a starting pet that can't improve feels weird 14:45 to me it's more interesting to have a role that starts with a pet that is better than the other starting pets, but gets weaker due to not growing into anything whereas the normal starters do 14:45 it is the way 14:45 we demand pet progression 14:45 i tried that with pseudodragon aosdict 14:46 the feedback from several players basically boiled down to 'wtf' 14:46 so you caved? 14:46 no 14:46 K2 gracefully accepted player input 14:46 you try 'a thing' if it doesnt work out then you try 'another thing' 14:47 you here, aoei in #hardfought... you both trying to push my buttons today huh 14:47 :) 14:47 lol! 14:47 who's winding you up in here 14:48 ah hey aoei! 14:48 I read the bacjscroll 14:48 *backscroll 14:48 aosdict is being difficult :) 14:48 that's funny, aosdict always strikes me as one of the saner folks around here 14:48 your god was satisfied, not pleased 14:48 mobileuser: yeah i know 14:49 so you falsely accused evilhack, lol 14:49 i had 0 alignment because no monsters generated til i was fainting 14:49 i did 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had a spear entrusted to him by Odin, on T:16728 14:51 RIP Peanut the ever loyal queen ant, vaporized by a beholder 14:51 mobileuser: but why did no monsters generate on dl1 or 2 huh? huh? 14:52 vaderflag rip peanut 14:52 :-( 14:53 Peanut made it all the way from dlvl 1 as a kitten, to minetown where she was transformed several times, eventually into a queen ant, then met her doom on dlvl25 14:53 no corpse? 14:53 disintegrated? 14:53 I thought so but stoned it turns out 14:53 ah 14:53 So maybe there's hope if I ever find the spellbook 14:53 there is hope 14:53 peanut v 2.0 14:53 I totally think smacking statues with lizard corpses should unstone 14:54 aoei maybe they were all hiding from you? 14:54 or potion of acid 14:54 mobileuser, aoei wasnt good enough to find them. speed runners dont look for monsters, they just look for the stairs 14:54 i searched the whole level 14:54 maybe you stink and they ran away from you 14:55 valks are stealthy aren't they 14:55 a foul smell 14:55 what gives 14:55 STANK 14:55 k we 14:57 meanwhile, my homunculus searches are not fruitful yet 14:57 i could do lesser -> -> greater 14:58 for the record I'm not intentionally trying to be difficult or push anyone's buttons 14:59 just expressing my game design ideas 15:01 if we cant tease each other a lil bit, this would make me sad 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45371 15:03 hey K2 ur smelly 15:03 * K2 cries and runs to his safe space 15:09 settle down in here. don't make me take off this belt 15:10 so i can't see what's screwing up my attempt to upgrade evilhack, but i'm compeletely ignorant of how git works 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2799 15:18 hothraxxa, do 'git branch -v' 15:19 what is listed? if multiple, which has an asterisk next to it? 15:21 * 0.6.0 940bf876a Fix: another case of 'placing steed onto map, mstate:0, on Dlvl:() ?'. 15:21 that is correct i think 15:22 yes 15:22 i suppose i could fire up my debian vm and do a complete install from scratch 15:23 ugh 15:23 don't like that idea 15:23 have you edits hints/linux in any way? 15:23 edited 15:23 nope 15:23 just a hunch... look in /home/root/ 15:24 (and teh rest of the install path) 15:26 what am i looking for? 15:26 the evilhack binary 15:26 i'm wondering if it went there instead 15:27 doesn't look like it 15:28 find / -name evilhack 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) had an apron entrusted to her by Odin, on T:24587 15:29 ./home/hothraxxa/eh/install/games/lib/evilhackdir/evilhack 15:29 ./home/hothraxxa/eh/install/games/evilhack 15:29 ./home/hothraxxa/evilhack 15:29 ./home/hothraxxa/evilhack/EvilHack/src/evilhack 15:29 yuck 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) had a pair of fencing gloves entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:18218 15:30 are you using a symlink to run the binary? 15:30 third line is prob your symlink right? 15:31 no, i was running /usr/games/evilhack 15:31 but thats not the path if using hints/linux 15:32 unless you modified it 15:32 it brings up 0.5.0 15:32 one of those first 2 is prob the correct binary 15:32 hmm 15:33 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 using linux-debug will make the path (absolute) /usr/games/lib/evilhackdir/ 15:33 ^unedited 15:36 Warning: cannot write scoreboard file '/home/hothraxxa/eh/install/games/lib/evilhackdir/var/record' 15:36 arrrgh 15:36 i remember this but not how to fix it 15:37 also this path looks horribly wrong 15:37 per linux hints file, thats correct 15:38 that error, either the file 'record' doesnt exist or the perms are wrong 15:38 OR 15:39 you may need to run the binary as sudo 15:39 would be strange if you need sudo for writing to /home/hothraxxa .. 15:39 i know 15:39 chown and/or chmod is not right perhaps 15:41 there is no var 15:42 huh 15:42 ok do this 15:42 anyway why is this so diofferent from the previous install (which i easily upgraded successfully from 0.4.something) 15:42 do you care if the evilhack binary goes to /usr/games/lib ? 15:42 ^ absolute path 15:43 i'd prefer that but i just want this to work 15:43 ok 15:43 make spotless 15:43 heh. again 15:43 run the setup file for hints/linux-debug 15:43 make all && make install 15:44 evilhack binary will be in /usr/games/lib/evilhackdir 15:44 along with the correct sub folders and file placement 15:44 this is what i started out doing, but we'll see 15:48 i get v0.5.0 15:48 oh fuck 15:48 i ran the setup for linux not linux-debug 15:49 hothraxxa are you using a symlink to run evilhack binary? 15:49 or are you going straight to it 15:50 no symlink until i get it working 15:50 ok 15:50 just making sure 15:51 using linux-debug works 15:51 thanks for your patience 15:52 \o/ 15:52 hothraxxa of course, anytime 15:52 i can shut down my truck now, i had it warming up, was about to drive to canada and find you 15:53 :P 15:53 awww 15:54 homunculus is pretty boring in mythology and games 15:56 I'm giving up (for now) 15:57 gonna go with lesser/normal/greater 15:57 and yeah i did a pretty solid search 15:57 nuthin 15:57 seatched quasits and imps also 15:57 searched 15:58 quasits nope, imps yeah but nothing that really fits 16:00 my conclusion as well 16:01 i'll make it fun 16:02 \o/ 16:02 FUN 16:02 and maybe even give homunculi lil bobble hats they can wear 16:02 heh, not on my account ;-) 16:02 lol 16:02 since a homonculus is a little man, make it medium man and large man 16:03 heh 16:03 wee, semi-wee, frickin' HUGE 16:03 Small Man, Regular Man, Big Man 16:03 ok so finally i can verify that the bag of hesperides does resist polymorph 16:03 Oh that's handy 16:03 probably not always right 16:03 its an artifact, it should 16:03 yes that was my reasoning 16:03 bonus 16:03 SCIENCE 16:04 \o/ 16:04 brb 16:07 hey kathryn has a wand of death. maybe i can talk her into giving it to me 16:07 i freed her from a curse after all 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:49833 16:11 oh my god lol 16:11 I hit A for put everything in instead of a for look at everything 16:11 classic 16:11 that was the bag of the hesperides too 16:11 :( 16:12 we've all done it 16:12 is this the same game where the beholder took out your cloak of mr and sdsm? 16:12 yeah 16:12 i commend you for not giving up 16:13 yet 16:13 I fat finger that A so often 16:14 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 16:14 since k2 nerfed npcs bags, i am up to about 11-12 without seeing a single boh 16:14 in this game. in fact i did see one in another game, but i've seen easily a couple of dozen npcs without one 16:17 luckily I have 3 spare bags of holding 16:17 but no spare bags of the hesperides :( 16:17 alas 16:17 I just hit A again when loading up my new bag of holding 16:17 lol 16:17 no wand of cancellation this time though 16:19 given that i can't recall ever wanting that A option, i wish it didn't exist or i could turn it off 16:19 yeah I don't think I have ever used it 16:20 be glad your wand of wishing isn't glass 16:21 I haven't gotten to the castle yet, I was just loading up to do it when I blew up the bag 16:22 and i thought i was having a bad day when i lost both of my wands of death in about four turns 16:23 I don't think I've ever hit A to do it, I've usually done it by accidentally pressing , without realising 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 10113 points, T:9281, killed by Juiblex 16:23 I hope vanilla does something similar to dnh, where if both are formally id'd it gives a warning 16:23 Oh some bones to avoid goody 16:23 !lastgame coplate 16:23 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/coplate/evilhack/dumplog/1612640553.evil.html 16:23 i mean i had about 8-9 wands out, why did death have to be the one that the nazgul shattered? 16:24 lol you know why 16:25 beacuse charging my second one from 1:0 would explode it 16:26 i had a wand of poly once that i charged 4 times ie 5:x 16:26 oh yeah i've done that with PYEC for sure. just can't w/ death wands 16:27 i think i've only had one wand ever explode from charging, and it was 3:0 16:27 d'oh 16:27 i forgot evilhack doesn't like recharging death wands 16:27 you CAN fooproof wands ya know... 16:27 i do that now with death wands if they are breakable 16:27 no this is an evilhack thing. it's all coming back to me now 16:28 :) 16:28 at one time k2 disallowed recharging death wands 16:28 yeah originally you could charge them 16:28 then he relented and allowed them to recharge once 16:29 yeah that sounds right 16:29 wait does making a wand fooproof protect it from breakage? 16:29 i said that wasn't really necessary and i think he went back to no recharge, amirite? 16:29 yeah like if it's glass it becomes "shatterproof' 16:29 I found a rustproof wand of death earlier, can I carry it safely in open inventory without it being destroyed by electrical attacks? 16:29 i thought you can charge them once, unless he changed it again 16:30 qt: not sure about that 16:30 I think I'll play it safe then, at least for now 16:30 thanks 16:30 possibly, but if that's truen then the chance of exploding one is probably fairly high. i should look this up 16:30 i don't have a bag yet and finally got to lvl 12 and had 2 gain levels (in open inventory obviously) but when I went to quaff I only had 1 :( so now i'm stuck at lvl 13 16:30 and need quest arti for MR 16:31 anyway i had forgotten that death wands had been changed at all, so d'oh 16:31 last few games I've found multiple bags of holding on the ground in early dungeon/mines. Not even a sack in this game 16:31 surprised i haven't seen an npc yet 16:32 when i was killing tourists i was finding an early boh in about half my games 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:47277 16:33 in this game it was a death drop in the second or third level of sokoban 16:33 YES! something just dropped a gain level 16:34 you rise up, thorugh the ceiling 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] joshtaco (Val Hum Fem Neu), 202 points, T:1924, killed by trying to drink molten lava 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a copper elven long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:28043 16:36 qt I don't think wands are ever safe from exploding by electrical attacks 16:37 and wands of death can still be recharged once 16:37 i don't see any changes to the chances of it exploding, but the wand was 1:0 so it had already been recharged. i play my senior citizen's card 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a wooden throwing spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:28191 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu), 120628 points, T:25786, incinerated in molten lava by a couatl 16:44 I didn't know couatls would pull you into lava 16:44 !lastgame eraserhead97 16:44 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/evilhack/dumplog/1611316977.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/evilhack/dumplog/1592183389.evil.html 16:45 yeah they have a drowning attack 16:46 I knew they could drown you but I figured since they aren't fire resistant they would only pull you into water 16:46 Hmmm 16:46 Quite the suicidal maneuver otherwise 16:47 They fly, maybe they push you under? 16:47 Also, a wand of teleportation should nearly always be in open invent 16:48 "The couatl swings itself around you!" was last chance saloon 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:27891 16:49 Yeah I guess they constrict you, pull you over the lava then let go and push you in without touching it 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:28397 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28400 16:50 I bet you still die when you are flying though... 16:50 bah lost weaponless 16:50 oh well got magic resistance finally. now just need a BAG 16:52 dammit a salamander had a death wand and it reflected off me and killed it (in the lava) i don't suppose there's anyway to get the wand? 16:52 If you didn't see it burn up, you can cold the lava 16:52 and dig it out 16:52 (of course also cold any surrounding lava) 16:54 nice thanks 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:42642 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:47935 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47936 17:06 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 17:12 Hm the nethackscoreboard dumplog links to first combo ascensions don't seem to work anymore 17:14 there seem to be too many slashes in the URL 17:15 there's blanks where the [letter]/[username] should be I think which results in the /// 17:15 yeah 17:16 heading over to #nhs-dev 17:18 there's blanks where the [letter]/[username] should be which results in the /// 17:18 oh wrong paste :-) 17:19 mobileuser: That makes me think of the UK NHS ;) 17:22 qt doh 17:22 not THE bag 17:23 Do what with Bag of the Hesperides? A - Blow up 17:23 :/ 17:24 oh fyi - making a wand fooproof means its good against whatever kind of corrosion/burning/whatever. it does not make them explode-proof :) 17:24 exploding different than rusting or burning 17:24 much more force 17:24 more wow 17:24 less good more bad 17:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2506 points, T:1727, killed by an elven arrow 17:28 oh ok that's what I had assumed 17:29 Oh, ha. Out of sheer force of habit, I started this new game as an Illithid wizard instead of the monk I intended. 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:42903 17:33 i really like illithid race 17:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:42924 17:33 i think that turned out better than I had initially anticipated 17:34 YASI: if illithid, regardless of role, player starts with a mind flayer larva as a pet 17:35 larva > mind flayer -> master mind flayer 17:35 give a whole new meaning to overpowered 17:38 That'd work. 17:39 K2: Have you ascended one? 17:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 402 points, T:905, killed by a dwarf lady 17:42 Triple-bones. 17:43 arahael yes 17:44 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1579797599.evil.html 17:44 illithid wizard 17:44 oh my that was 0.4.2 17:45 feels like ages ago 17:46 K2: You'll have to do another. 17:47 K2 is Bruce Schneier confirmed 17:47 who is that? heh 17:47 someone who really likes squid, apparently 17:47 arahael i wanna ascend an illithid infidel 17:48 squid is yummy 17:48 K2: Go do it! :) 17:48 \o/ 17:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:58 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:49444 18:06 Kathryn rolled up a dragonhide displacement cloak NO THANK YOU 18:06 What a major pain 18:09 fireball -- the univeral pain reliever 18:09 * tinklebear can't spell "universal" 18:10 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 18:16 Crap. Got to the mines. 18:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:16 Found a teleport trap, by stumbling on it. So I've been teleported. In the middle of deep water. 18:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16 And no way out 18:18 arahael: the northeast square is deep water, correct? 18:18 tinklebear: Yes. 18:18 and it is adjacent to more dry land? 18:18 I'm standing in shallow water. 18:19 No it's not. 18:19 Actually sorry got my coordinates wrong. 18:19 The north*east* square is a wall. 18:19 But i have no means of diging that. 18:19 Hang, on, i do! 18:19 ah, well cool 18:19 Awesome! :D 18:20 Crisis averted 18:20 All thanks to tinklebear. 18:20 lol. i can't read a map, but whatever you say! 18:22 Orctown. 18:39 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 18:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:42 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4852 18:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5107 18:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Law), 20734 points, T:5268, killed by an ogre queen, while praying 18:58 Yo K2 18:59 ahem didn't I set min tc earlier 18:59 !setmintc 100000 18:59 amateurhour: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for amateurhour set to 100000 18:59 gonna check irc log maybe EvilBot just rudely ignored me 19:00 ...is there one for this channel? 19:02 um 19:02 amateurhour: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for amateurhour set to 100000 19:02 earlier today I mean 19:03 well yesterday technically as it's now past midnight 19:03 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog.evil/ 19:03 ah I typoed it earlier, thanks K2 19:04 o/ 19:04 computer all better? 19:04 it crashed once more but didn't corrupt the bootloader so 19:04 iunno 19:04 :( 19:05 I think it's something software side going wrong instead of hardware failing 19:05 what OS? 19:05 linux 19:06 no windows in this house only basements 19:06 can you be more specific? what flavor 19:06 arch 19:06 another arch linux person :) 19:06 well yeah it is the best :P 19:06 'i use arch btw' 19:06 apparently :) 19:16 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:17 i an imp or minor demon (tame lesser homunculus called Steve) [seen: normal vision, infravision] 19:19 :c 19:20 buffing homunculi is not at all a bad idea tbh 19:20 but I feel like imps and quasits deserve more respect 19:21 i just gave steve a bunch of potions of gain level 19:21 Status of Steve (chaotic): Level 22 HP 75(75) AC 0, tame (5; hungry 1001; apport 7). 19:21 greater homunculus now 19:23 i just gave him 30 more 19:23 Status of Steve (chaotic): Level 49 HP 217(217) AC -4, tame (5; hungry 1001; apport 7). 19:23 lol 19:24 this is the only starting pet that can actually quaff potions 19:25 on that note, what of pesudodragons 19:25 pseudo* 19:25 what mode of inspection reveals apport, K2? 19:25 are they of the same "smart enough to collect certain items but lack hands to use them with" sort as true dragons? 19:25 they are flagged as no hands 19:25 wizmode usually 19:25 tinklebear i used a wand of probing in wizmode 19:25 ah. so, not really an in-game thing 19:26 neat, though 19:26 yeah. the bits inside the () you wont see outside of wizmode 19:26 cool 19:27 of course any pet you can get up to really high levels with some cunning strategies 19:28 Status of the quasit (chaotic): Level 49 HP 250(250) AC -4, tame (5; hungry 1112; apport 7).--More-- 19:28 tamed a quasit, gave it 50 potions of gain level 19:32 o: 19:32 (it should still get a proper evo line tho, I feel like) 19:32 * Umbire should pore through AD&D stuff later for more ideas 19:32 evo line? 19:32 "growing up" line then :B 19:32 evolution? 19:32 are lvl 49 quasits vicious? 19:33 Umbire we already looked 19:33 there are no other types or forms of homunculi that we could find 19:34 "the little green man grows up into a jolly green giant" 19:35 nah 19:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±11] https://git.io/JtaWv 19:35 [EvilHack] k21971 1dd8463 - Create three tiers of homunculus, Infidel now has a pet that can grow. 19:35 food time back later 19:35 good eating, K2 19:37 o/ 19:37 K2: Also I meant in general 19:37 Though you did too probably 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1877 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Novice, on T:1926 19:50 wow, do gremlins multiply faster in evilhack? Medusa level is neck deep in them 19:52 Might be just unlucky 19:53 bouquet: They multiply faster when there's water. 19:53 they only multiply when there's water. 19:54 Sure, let me correct. 19:54 And Medusa tends to have a lot of water around 19:54 They multiply faster when there's LOTS of water. If they're... Yes. That. 19:54 It IS an island :B 19:57 I need AoE spells to really clean that level out. 19:57 or just light 19:57 Yeah, light'll do it 19:58 esp. with all those gremlins 19:58 probably at like 1-2 HP 19:58 Light!? 19:59 Man, when I wiped out a whole bunch of friendly gremlins... My god hated me for a while. 20:01 ya, that's a cool twist for chaotic players. 20:01 Unfortunately, I forgot light right when they started spawning. 20:02 * tinklebear empathises 20:02 or sympathises. maybe both? 20:04 they are followers. so theoretically you could fill the whole dungeon with them 20:07 Without water on each level that'll be... Painful... But... A gremlin swarm in astral would be rather nifty. 20:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:13 really love these random adventures I find in the dungeon. Nice touch. 20:15 K2: EPI - when you have a 'large monster' (ie, not an egg) erupt from your bag or sack, it should "tear out of the bag". Might mean bags need to be able to take damage, though, which then makes having a leather or even dragonhide bag more sensible. 20:17 Not that evil considering you can just avoid carrying cursed figurines 20:17 (in bags specifically 20:17 with the exception of the Infidel perhaps) 20:18 Right. 20:18 I just dipped some cursed gloves into holy water and they went from cursed->blessed in one dip. Is that an evilhack thing? 20:19 I have never seen that, bouquet 20:19 Umbire: I just realised you're also in the other channel, where I bit someone! ;) 20:19 I think it's from vanilla and the same chance as cursing the dipped item 20:19 arahael: ;D~ 20:20 turn 51735 in my current game. Going to rewatch the ttyrec to be sure I'm not halucinating 20:20 I'm seeing some very definite differences in my strategy as monk vs infidel. 20:21 Monks: Train up to grand master ASAFP. (As Soon As F***'ing Possible). Dive into the mines asap, wack everything. 20:22 Erm, not infidel, Illithid. 20:22 Illithid: Avoid mines. Do Soko first, carefully. Get your spells up as soon as possible. Psionic attack everything you can. Avoid metal helms. 20:27 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 20:27 are the evilhack monk extra attacks at grandmaster noticeably more damaging? 20:28 They are. 20:28 But... You also can't wear armour at all, so it's a bit of a wash, imho. 20:28 I'll have to test silver boots and see if they do silver damage. Would make demons a bit softer 20:28 They do. 20:28 not even boots/gloves/cloak? 20:29 Those are fine. But body armour is absolutely not. 20:29 Shields will prevent the 'extra' attack. 20:29 Larger shields will prevent the kicking attack. 20:29 is the penalty worse than vanilla? 20:29 Way worse. 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2158 20:30 I love monks. Now that I have an official weaponless conduct one ascended I'll feel better playing fast and loose with my future monk. 20:30 at least dragonbane provides reflection. 20:30 Giant monks can't even wear tshirts. 20:30 They dont even get a robe! 20:31 my first eh attempt was a giant monk. Quickly learned the lack of armor options. 20:32 too bad centaur player race can't wear 2 types of boots :) 20:32 kicking + speed for a centaur monk would be cool. 20:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:32 Centaurs should have massively OP kicks anyway, I reckon. 20:33 should send monsters flying away like giant punches 20:34 👀 20:34 You hear some troping in the distance. 20:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3052 20:40 "you hear in the distance" messages remind me of Zork. 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical gold perforated amulet on an altar, on T:4126 21:08 [20:32] Centaurs should have massively OP kicks anyway, I reckon. 21:08 [20:33] should send monsters flying away like giant punches 21:08 that gave me an idea 21:09 Ha. "I don't think the wood nymph would appreciate that". (I accidentally tried to apply a rusty lockpick to the nymph) 21:12 K2: https://allthetropes.org/w/index.php?title=EvilHack&diff=1866499&oldid=1864325 21:13 I still plan to add an image but it isn't strictly "needed" per se, just to explain that 21:13 Also do you plan to have someone do tiles for Evil eventually? 21:14 Because if you need someone I can take a swing at helping o: 21:14 another anti-frustration feature - show weight 21:14 Umbire i've made the basic tileset for evilhack 21:14 Also you merged in the pet/peaceful displacement thing, right? 21:14 Ooh, show! 21:14 i've never looked into a custom one 21:14 yes pet/peaceful displacement is in 21:15 I meant the basic tileset tbh but I could totally try for a custom one in my spare time 21:15 but show weight means I need to find some other use for traditional pile-o-rocks at my stashes 21:15 * tinklebear silently boycotts this feature 21:16 heh 21:16 credit where credit is due, a lot of these anti-frustration features came from xnethack (aosdict) 21:17 if i added something from i made note of it in the commit 21:17 Noted (and will note in the ATT article once I get to reading those commits) 21:18 that pic that aosdict linked to, of Dr. Evil 21:18 that would be a great pic for the trope hahahah 21:18 K2: It would be very nifty if items in a container showed weight. :( 21:18 It's a work rather than a trope 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 5469 points, T:7895, killed by a chameleon imitating a minotaur 21:19 That said I'm v. inclined to try for a Dr. Evil custom tile if I can justify making one 21:19 Or I could do fanart of EvilHack depicting you as such 21:20 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2565/source 21:22 smaller but better qual - https://www.globalnerdy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dr.-evil.jpg 21:23 oooh https://i.redd.it/9fpu2aip0hy11.jpg 21:26 one thing I like (not sure which variant it originated in) is that you lose knowledge of an object's buc if you dip it into blessed/cursed water while blind/hallucinating (and so can't accurately percieve the glow effect) 21:27 in an atheist game this removes much frustration 21:28 Removes frustration by...? 21:28 stacking is super important for atheists 21:28 Oh 6_9 21:28 and you can't just drop stuff on an altar to buc-id everything 21:29 I knew that much yeah 21:44 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Heck%C2%B2_patch Huh 21:45 Wonder why I haven't heard more about this 21:49 Also: currently working on a Mirror Mook trope page. I have the player monster and doppleganger examples from NetHack and its variants as well as the UnNetHack Aleax, but what else? 21:55 i'm pretty trope-blind, but Master Kaen is pretty much a mirror boss, no? 21:55 Technically, yeah 21:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 22884 points, T:5934, killed by a leocrotta 21:55 Ow 21:55 What's a "mirror boss"? 21:56 speaking of imitators! 21:56 (the leocrotta, I mean) 21:56 Yeah. A high powered leocrotta, too, I suspect. 21:56 All it does is mimic your voice 21:56 I kept getting blinded so often. 21:56 arahael: Name should be a hint 21:56 arahael: i gather it's a boss monster that has your abilities, but bosstasticly 21:56 :B 21:56 Was trying to find soko. :( 21:56 Ye 21:57 Umbire: "Master Kaen" doesn't remind me of anything, unless you're referring to the title? 21:57 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 21:57 The "mirror boss" thing, yes 21:57 Hi stenno 22:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtaRH 22:08 [EvilHack] k21971 84e763f - Slight changes to intrinsics gained via crowning for infidel role. 22:09 o: ? 22:09 * Umbire clicks 23:00 K2: The cynic in me is saying that you made those changes just as you told me you wantedd to ascend infidel. ;) 23:01 hah 23:01 mobileuser has been asking me about that for awhile 23:01 Sure. :) 23:01 :P 23:02 there's no such thing as 'if (playername == k2)' 23:04 I think we should have a royal commission. ;) 23:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1462 23:08 Utterly useless. 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 788 points, T:1999, killed by a giant mimic, while frozen by a potion 23:51 !whereis Arahael 23:51 tinklebear: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Mon Hum Fem Neu) T:2447 The Gnomish Mines level: 9 23:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8123 points, T:2558, killed by an owlbear 23:53 D'oh. stupid. 23:53 I'm getting distracted. 23:54 oh no! 23:54 I had just found a dragonhide cloak, too. Cursed, -2, but even so. 23:55 K2: You don't have helms of invisibility do you 23:55 ? 23:55 nerp 23:57 You are aware of the presence of jabberwocks because of Vorpal Blade. 23:58 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack