00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9519 00:04 On the wiki it is probably worth mentioning that Dirge can be created out of an elven long sword. 00:05 * tinklebear has no account to edit nethackwiki, and ran into annoyances (specifics long forgotten) during last attempt to create one 00:14 just did it 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:42559 00:19 about damn time 00:29 \o/ 01:38 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8256 points, T:8075, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 02:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1149 points, T:1968, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 03:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 411 points, T:897, killed by a giant leech 03:24 bouquet: I interpreted that as a response to K2's work, not the EvilBot announcement! :0 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13853 04:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 04:20 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 05:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:13 Hmph. This minetown branch has a hidden downstairs. 05:14 You mean you can't find them? 05:16 Yep. 05:16 It's probably in a dark spot surrounded by water or something. 05:17 Yeah. Sometimes I dig down in desperation when that happens. 05:17 A bit risky if you don't have a means of crossing water yet. 05:18 Usually there is some shallow water too... I haven't had one yet completely surrounded by deep water. 05:23 I have in one of my previous games. 05:27 Wow, that's evil 05:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2129 points, T:2150, killed by a gas cloud, while praying 05:36 !whereis arahael 05:36 arahael: arahael is not playing. 05:36 * arahael rolls his eyes. 05:37 That was about dlvl 4, gnome-with-a-gas-cloud-scroll. 05:38 I had one completely surrounded by water too 05:39 I think in that case I was lucky that I could throw boulders against walls to get out 05:39 like |{> 05:39 or |}> rather 05:59 I have been lucky so far then 06:55 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1271 points, T:1017, killed by a falling rock 07:59 "The orange dragon swallows the flaming sphere." fire eater! 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 348 points, T:1095, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 09:07 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7244 09:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 09:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class J, on T:46457 09:40 fuck me you can't genocide vorpal jabberwocks 09:41 nope 09:42 constant terror 09:42 obviously the design of some thoroughly greased partly eaten evil developer 09:42 historic 09:42 aye 09:43 well i had no other idea for that blessed scroll of genocide 09:43 was tempted to unbless it 09:44 now i feel i should have 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:8315 09:45 If vorpal J's are ungenocidable alhoons should be too 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "very historic very holy locked extinguished greased rustproof thoroughly +5 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of warning named nobody sneaks up on the hothraxxa", on T:46460 09:47 * hothraxxa hits VaderFLAG with a +7 vorpal blade 09:47 throw in black dragons for good measure, no more black rain :b 09:48 don't make me come over there and take away your keyboard 09:48 That's a good idea too 09:48 [cowers] 09:49 got the +5 btw 09:49 nice! 09:49 very historic very holy! 09:49 hothraxxa that panic error you experienced yesterday, is fixed and live on the server 09:49 excellent, although i wasn't aware it was a panic error 09:51 i noticed that you took away the multi-wish thrones :( 09:52 what were the odds of getting 2+ wishes out of a throne before anyway, like <.01%? 09:52 hothraxxa that's not in 0.6.0 09:53 first time having a queen ant as a pet and boy is it exceeding expectations 09:53 i think that's the only time i ever got two wishes from one throne (in any variant) 09:53 anytime you see a 'program in disorder' message that doesnt crash the game, thats a panic 09:54 -!- telegarn has joined #evilhack 09:54 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 09:54 oh i guess i haven't done enough programming in recent years, i wasn't aware 09:55 queen ants are surprisingly strong 09:55 * hothraxxa gets confused, reads enchant k&h and repairs his rusty terminology 09:56 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:57 ? 09:57 queen bees could probably use a buff 09:57 you mean impossible rather than panic right K2? 09:57 maybe? they typically show up in the paniclog 09:58 why i call it a panic 09:58 impossibles show a message but let you continue, panics terminate the game 09:58 both log to the paniclog 09:58 then wtf is it called a paniclog 09:58 aha, so i wasn't so rusty after all 09:58 i'm not a programmer, i just play one on TV 09:58 you made me waste a scroll, you bratsrad 09:58 blame amateurhour 09:59 its what i do 09:59 * hothraxxa blames doppler 09:59 hey VaderFLAG alhoons might be ungenoable in 0.7 till you complete a side branch 09:59 off to interview a person for help desk. they'll probably suck like most everyone before them. back later 09:59 Great idea. 09:59 (doppler is a friend in another channel and it is traditional to blame him for everything) 10:00 I kinda wish genocide didn't exist, but reverse genocide is a nice tool 10:00 I would agree but then monsters were made a lot nastier in a lot of variants so I guess it's worth keeping 10:02 * VaderFLAG thinks about blessed genocide hitting one random member of a class and uncursed genociding one random class 10:02 so alhoons would p much never be geno'd then 10:02 :| 10:03 It's tricky, the whole balance between genocide and making some monsters ungenocidable 10:03 Maybe my real objection is that there are one or two monsters that are so much nastier than all the others, rather than a wide array of really nasty ones 10:04 ahh the slex approach 10:04 There y'all go trying to get me to play slex again 10:04 haha I think you would actually like it 10:05 considering how much you like sadistic ideas in video games 10:05 :P 10:06 I need a relaxing game to balance out the sadistic currently 10:06 an easy race/role combo in dnh then, or maybe vanilla 10:07 I dunno if I can go back to vanilla 10:07 but nethack isn't relaxing! 10:07 I guess sometimes it is 10:09 Doing sokoban with 40hp on the equiv. of dlvl14 is not 10:09 sudokuban when 10:13 well 10:13 blessed geno: one monster dungeon wide, unblessed: one monster on one level 10:14 evilhack makes resources so scarce and nasty monsters so prevalent it's difficult to genocide all the bad ones 10:14 oh that's interesting, something to pull out when you're in specific danger 10:14 I like that 10:15 i forget which variant that is, unnethack maybe? 10:15 some variants have scrolls of mass murder which do precisely that 10:15 nethackTNG for example, slex too I think 10:16 yeah it's unnethack 10:17 can you genocide shambling horrors? 10:17 mine are kind of odd, they steal gold and teleport away 10:17 How do I tell my pet that using touch of death on a kitten might be overkill 10:17 hit hard but not exceptionally so 10:17 leprechaun horrors! fantastic 10:18 wiki says no genocide for them 10:18 yes take out a gold piece when one shows up and you're good 10:18 nevr have gold kit 10:19 i hate when something like the ring of levitation is gold 10:19 Do leps always pick $ over gold items, or do they pick at random? 10:19 not sure but i keep a gold piece out if i have gold kit 10:21 will a lep rub a gold magic lamp? inquiring minds need to know 10:22 They should definitely be the only monsters who know to rub a magic lamp 10:22 maybe nymphs too 10:22 it's the first item found that's gold in your invent 10:22 which I think is the most recently added gold thing to open invent 10:22 not sure where coins fit into that 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:11332 10:25 gratz 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11342 10:26 well limited wiztesting shows they'll take the gold coin if i just took it out 10:27 lep stole the magic lamp when i had no coin, not sure if he's somewhere rubbing it 10:27 amateurhour: I suppose it wouldn't be hard to throw some reservoir sampling into findgold 10:28 so it picks a random gold item 10:28 in fact it should do that 10:28 I was just thinking that 10:28 I find reservoir sampling to work similarly to html dumplogs, sprinkle it on your problems and they go away 10:29 haha, it's nice for some nethack stuff for sure 10:29 it probably gives infinigon heart palpitations 10:30 a variable probabilistic number of rng accesses 10:31 but I guess if it's in mklev and the rngs are in sync then they get the same results anyway 10:31 hothraxxa monsters do not use magic lamps 10:32 I will sometimes geno leps if a critical item is gold... 10:33 Oh and horrors can't be tamed either 10:36 afaics the lep will steal your blessed gold magic lamp but not rub it 10:44 monsters dont use magic lamps in evilhack. harsh enough that they'll use WoW's and blessed smoky potions 10:44 if i added lamps to the mix there'd be a riot 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a leather slippery cloak entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:12971 10:48 lol, I have taken great risks in the past to get to a magic lamp before a monster could :b 10:49 err on the side of caution :) 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:46857 10:52 here because i wanted to check out that fucking room in the sewers 10:52 i already have two or three spare luckstones 10:53 the fucking room? 10:53 i found a luckstone on mines level 2 10:53 i didnt know we had that 10:53 dude 10:53 it's awesome 10:53 DUDE 10:53 full of nymphs and succubi 10:53 amateurhour cover your eyes 10:53 the Tourist quest has a few of them 10:53 do not uncover them until I type here that you can :P 10:54 i think i might have made nymphs extinct already 10:54 that floor with the secret room wouldn't be so ass if shallow water wasn't a valid teleport location 10:54 had three garden levels 10:54 you mean sewage 10:54 oh the luckstone was inside it 10:54 now to check out the chests 10:54 yeah sewage 10:54 and yes it and shallow water are valid tele positions because you cant sink/drown in them 10:55 silly 10:55 K2 you can drown in an inch of water 10:55 not in nethack 10:55 K2 my feet would get soggy and my boots rust away 10:55 1st world problems 10:56 how is it first world problems to not want to land in literal shit 10:56 :P 10:57 reached Medusa and I have no means yet to fly, levitate or water walk. first world problem... 10:58 I hate polypiling for that stuff 10:58 time to think 10:58 Dig to go below. one way trip! 10:58 yeah in vanilla I would do that 10:59 just swim 4head 10:59 could you selfpoly maybe? 10:59 no polycontrol 11:00 I need to see how many lev potions I have 11:00 poly into amateurhour, you can whine your way to a solution 11:00 \o/ 11:00 low blow 11:01 yes. yes it was 11:01 the constant nagging has made me jaded 11:01 see what you've done amateurhour 11:03 !lastgame amateurhour 11:03 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1607276744.evil.html 11:03 I can do my own high-grade whining K2, thank you very much 11:04 :b 11:04 heh 11:05 alright, these new computers arent going to set themselves up. brb 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:46981 11:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 5677 points, T:1781, shot himself with a death ray 11:24 nooooooo 11:24 !lastgame 11:24 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1612444743.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1610648117.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1612404946.evil.html 11:24 Wow 11:25 lol 11:25 R.I.P. an honorable protest death 11:25 You read: "This is a protest for doggo bobble hats". 11:26 when you believe in something you gotta show you're serious 11:27 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:28 * K2 makes bobble hats for dogs that they'll continuously try to wear but never succeed 11:29 bobble hats that instantly kill the dog 11:29 they can wear it for one turn 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:47299 11:29 did amy make hats for doggos? 11:30 oh hothraxxa, look up encyclopedia entry for 'turtle' or 'honu' now 11:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36 neat! 11:37 btw when i aplly my (now blessed) plastic orb, i get You vigorously shake your plastic orb... 11:37 think i just wasted my holy water 11:38 did you also get scammed out of an 8-ball? 11:38 also did not succeed in having the oracle kill pegasus 11:38 well i haven't formally identified it, it's just a plastic orb 11:38 that i vigorously shake 11:38 artifact snow globe 11:43 was the oracle level a bones level? 11:43 hothraxxa 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:15611 11:47 TOUCH OF DEATH FOR YOU 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 86890 points, T:23528, killed by a giant lieutenant 11:49 hothraxxa yup, oracle level was bones (arahael) 11:49 scamazed out of 8-ball 11:50 there's a bit of code a added a few weeks ago that makes sure certain artifacts are not included in bones to make sure the owners of said artifacts spawn with them 11:50 except that when the bones level is on the same elvel with the artifact owner, this happens 11:50 *level 11:50 hmm 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a system shock 12:48 vlad's dont have to worry about, that's already no bones level 12:49 well, the level he spawns on anyways 12:49 so i just need to worry about oracle level, orcus level and yeenoghu level 12:52 you could let the item spawn in the bones if the level loaded is where it belongs 12:52 yeah 12:53 which should make the same object in the players bones file revert to normal 12:53 i think 12:54 what do you mean sorry? 12:54 oh does it not save the bones with the artifact in at all you mean? 12:55 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c2f80e4edfa63eb8db112e3fa483abb12fdf08a8 12:57 hmm i'm seeing other problems 12:58 bones are allowed in the VotD right? I have cerberus flagged as going away if bones level 12:58 thats not good 13:07 maybe you should just make these levels no-bones now that they have special unique items on them 13:08 that may be the simpler option 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:48324 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6497 13:29 Pegasus kicks the basilisk. Pegasus turns to stone! 13:29 thought this wasn't supposed to happen 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:19373 13:37 a voice booms out: "now you be careful with my steel dwarvish spear" 13:37 I have named it RAGE 13:37 We shall not be careful with it! 13:38 hothraxxa: recently I had a game where I *wanted* to stone my horse. 13:39 so I tried dismounting, and whistling it near a cockatrice, and used conflict 13:39 and that didn't work at all 13:39 what *did* work very well, was mounting it and riding adjacent to the cockatrice 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10985 points, T:8163, killed by a leocrotta 13:43 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43 hothraxxa https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1611007634.evil.html 13:43 "an uncursed eight ball named K2's Useless Plastic Toy Artifact" 13:44 same happened to me 13:45 this seems to work - https://termbin.com/lh9js 13:45 ^ could use another set of eyes on that 13:47 things like 'Is_asmo_level()' exist, not sure why they dont for yeenoghu and orcus 13:47 tinklebear: i'm sure i remember something being done about mounts attacking c, or at least promised 13:47 well vanilla yeenoghu doesn't have a level 13:48 i got thing for orcus level though 13:48 hothraxxa - there's code in place to prevent pets/monsters from attacking footrice and the like ** 90% of the time ** 13:48 what would happen with existing bones on those levels? 13:48 wouldnt affect existing bones mobileuser 13:48 nice 13:48 it would only help with future games 13:49 90%? that's not good enough, k2, you'll have to work harder 13:49 not my code 13:49 its vanilla 13:50 opportunity for fix and pr! 13:50 think of the glory 13:50 its not broken :) 13:50 anyway now i have to ride puff 13:51 YASI: whacking a statue with a lizard corpse acts like stone to flesh 13:51 it would be nice if there were some way to unstone 13:52 so obviously not something we'll see in evilhack any time soon 13:52 stone to flesh spell 13:52 i'm a barbarian. i can barely read a spellbook 13:52 set gave me one anyway 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Inf Orc Mal Una), 19 points, T:41, killed by a silver dart 13:52 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:53 silver. now that's style. 13:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:55 K2 would Demogorgon disappear from a Demogorgon bones level? 13:55 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 13:56 no 13:56 check 13:57 ah I remember now I've had to fight Demo before on a rebatela bones level 13:58 this is the current list of no shows on bones 13:58 mptr = mtmp->data; 13:58 if (mtmp->iswiz || mptr == &mons[PM_MEDUSA] 13:58 || mptr->msound == MS_NEMESIS || mptr->msound == MS_LEADER 13:58 || mptr == &mons[PM_VLAD_THE_IMPALER] 13:58 || (mptr == &mons[PM_ORACLE] && !fixuporacle(mtmp)) 13:58 || mptr == &mons[PM_CERBERUS] || mptr == &mons[PM_RAT_KING] 13:58 || mptr == &mons[PM_KATHRYN_THE_ICE_QUEEN]) 13:58 mongone(mtmp); 13:59 even with making the VotD a no bones level, i need to tweak this some 13:59 at least cerberus can stay 14:00 aww does that mean no epic valley bones with like yeenoghu or demogorgon? 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 darts on an altar, on T:3951 14:01 nothing has been committed yet 14:02 hmm idea 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:48897 14:02 thanks puff 14:06 is it deliberate that the magic 8-ball is only included in one out of the 3 possible oracle levels? 14:06 no... 14:06 hah shit 14:06 good catch 14:07 secxond you said that, i realized what i forgot to do 14:07 *second 14:10 brb 14:10 qt that's an easy fix, thanks for noticing 14:10 no problem! 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 733 points, T:1180, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:13 btw another quirk: if someone dies fighting yeenoghu (e.g. summoned him by same-race sacrifice) and leaves bones, his flail will be downgraded to the base type and so Butcher will be impossible to get in that game 14:13 xnethack strikes again 14:13 maybe this problem needs an approach like fixuporacle(bones.c)? 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 5279 points, T:4672, killed by a dwarf lady 14:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:15 or retain the artifact in a bones level as long as it's still in the inventory of its original owner, maybe? 14:16 blame aosdict until he fixes it anyway 14:17 not my problem, it's K2's problem for pulling in xnethack levels without considering evilhack changes 14:17 * amateurhour continues to blame 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2051 points, T:3732, killed by a dwarf lady 14:19 maybe for each special artifact in a bones level, check the list of monsters in the level; if the owner is there, return the artifact to the owner's inventory (they grabbed it after the hero died or something). if they aren't on the level, convert it to the base type. 14:23 that sounds promising 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:6705 14:26 so, how to write that hah 14:26 damn you work! leave me alone 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7433 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1495 points, T:1334, killed by a giant cockroach 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8633 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11452 15:00 K2: https://termbin.com/i6xsp 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Inf Ith Mal Una) stole 12950 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Juyn's jewelers, on T:861 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Inf Ith Mal Una), 322 points, T:865, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 15:03 idk how that would interact with fixuporacle, probably requires some testing but I think it's a place to start at least 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13044 15:08 I see my high quality bones have continued to appreciate and bone people. ;) 15:16 yeah, twice now you have left a useless plastic toy :-) 15:21 I do think that's probably a bug, though. :) 15:33 qt thanks 15:33 I love how you can just whip up stuff like this in a few min 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a pair of bone old gloves entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:20572 15:42 Boooooooooooooooooone gloves are ready! 15:44 K2: I tweaked it a bit so that if you steal a unique artifact and its owner then kills you, they will for sure take it when looting your corpse (rather than possibly leaving it to turn into the base item later) 15:44 https://termbin.com/orzx 15:45 dem dry bones 15:45 hugs 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:19090 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a javelin entrusted to her by Odin, on T:34244 15:52 ... 15:52 not even a bone one 15:52 Well that's the first javelin gift I've ever seen 15:52 lol 15:52 throw it 15:52 throw it at something 15:53 at the priest 15:53 do eet 15:53 at least pretend you like it, don't hurt Odin's feelings 15:53 Yeah when you get to astral Odin better see you throwing that thing all over 15:53 Odin knows the sacs will stop when I get Mjollnir 15:53 Stringing me along 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:20198 16:11 qt thanks for the patch. i'll commit soon 16:11 unless you think more work needs to be done 16:14 it's probably worth testing it a bit just to make sure it's definitely working as intended, but I think it should be good to go 16:14 I played around with it briefly and it seemed to be OK but I had to get back to real work lol 16:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "doot doodle a doot do"] 16:15 same heh 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 630 points, T:1008, killed by a jellyfish 17:00 btw, I also noticed a relatively minor bug in m_dowear(worn.c), it uses bimanual(mw) to determine whether a weapon is two-handed, but that actually checks whether it's two-handed *for the hero* 17:00 so that means that monsters can wear a shield with a two-handed weapon if the hero is a giant 17:00 balance! :-) 17:06 it's also used to check whether to print "weapon in hand" vs "weapon in hands" when a monster is wielding a weapon and you use a wand of probing 17:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35907 17:26 potion of lev did the job 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:35965 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:35966 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:26784 17:40 "You hear a hell hound howling at the moon." at the castle??? 17:41 gehennom welcoming committee 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) had a pair of steel gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:27687 17:57 "The ogre lord makes a wish for a gray dragon scale mail!" smoky potion... 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Magician, on T:27850 18:03 a wand of wishing (0:1) 18:03 nice way to end the day 18:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:12 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:13 qt doh 18:13 so that means that monsters can wear a shield with a two-handed weapon if the hero is a giant <-- hah awesome 18:23 I tried making a new macro that specifically looks at whether a particular monster would wield an item two-handed and restoring the wielder-agnostic nature of bimanual, I'm not sure if this is the best approach for fixing the problem though https://termbin.com/ya1db 18:25 oh oops that included the '~rabid dog' thing lol 18:25 heh 18:26 running some tests on the artifact owner fix patch 18:35 hrm 18:35 so testing 18:35 not working? 18:36 go to oracle level, kill oracle, get the magic 8-ball 18:36 let myself get killed on same level, generate bones 18:36 load up new game, go to oracle level, get the bones 18:36 oracle is missing 18:38 bones spectre has a regular plastic orb 18:38 am i missing something? i feel like I am 18:39 hmm I will check it out, afaik the code I wrote shouldn't remove or add monsters, just move items into their inventory if they exist on the level 18:39 i see 18:40 the orb should have been the magic 8-ball then 18:41 oh, if the owner is dead the item shouldn't be converted to the base type? 18:41 well no, what you made, its functioning like it should 18:42 i wonder... 18:44 i think how it should be... is if the player gets a bones level with one of those special artifacts, if the monster that's supposed to have it in their possession isnt dead, the artifact should revert to a normal item 18:44 otherwise it stays as an artifact 18:46 so if i get bones on oracle level, and the oracle was killed and isnt there anymore, and the magic 8-ball is there in the bones pile, it should stay as an artifact 18:46 if the oracle is still alive and the player somehow stole it and had it in their possession when they died, it goes back to the oracle (your current code patch) 18:47 lemme try that 2nd scenario, THAT should work as i described 18:51 oh hmm I thought the oracle got revived when a bones were created after she died but I guess I was wrong 18:51 just found another minor bug while doing that scenario hah 18:51 super minor 18:51 what is it? 18:51 i just pickpocketed the oracle as a rogue, stole the 8 ball 18:52 You begin robbing monsters with your bare hands. You attempt to pickpocket the Oracle. 18:52 You steal: r - a plastic orb named Magic 8-Ball (20 aum). The gods notice your deception! 18:52 You are hit by magic missiles appearing from thin air! 18:52 ^ but she's still peaceful 18:52 not the intent 18:52 K2: the gods noticed, and are looking out for her! 18:52 she should notice too and become angry. HANGRY 18:52 oh yeah I noticed too that if you kill her with a single blow, the magic missile still appear even after she is dead 18:52 idk if that's deliberate 18:52 it is 18:52 oh ok 18:53 happens in vanilla 18:53 does the oracle ever become angry? 18:53 oh yes 18:53 but in vanilla she's a pushover 18:53 in evilhack not as much, in 0.7.0 even less 18:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:55 NICE 18:55 qt your code works 18:55 made bones w/ oracle still alive 18:55 loaded bones, she has the 8-ball 18:56 cool, I'm gonna edit it to handle dying after killing the owner of the item in their lair too 18:56 sweet 19:00 what happens if you get the 8ball from a non-oracle bones? 19:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:03 currently you wouldnt 19:03 that works as intended 19:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 19:06 sounds good :) 19:13 is the ice palace level eligible to leave bones K2? 19:13 i dont believe so, it should be flagged as special level 19:13 lemme confirm 19:17 yup its special 19:17 no bones 19:18 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1063 points, T:2093, killed by a gnome 19:20 thanks 19:31 K2: https://termbin.com/7nul -- I think this should be better! 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:43994 19:46 bye for now, I'll probably be back later 19:48 thanks qt. away for a bit myself, back in a bit 19:48 my wife's boss dropped a work tablet *hard* shattered the screen. i'm on data extraction duty 19:50 it's remarkable how we dont do backups yet, still, in this day and age. 19:58 we do 19:58 but i dont have access to the backups at the moment 19:58 special case etc etc 20:17 Ah, yeah. And that's fair enough. 20:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3817 points, T:4470, killed by a Green-elf 21:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 228 points, T:1008, killed by a killer bee 21:04 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 21:09 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12 K2: Re: Kathryn's realm and Gehennom in Evil, did you take a cue from the earliest versions of Gehennom in NetHack? 21:17 -!- Umbire is now known as Umbyre 21:17 -!- Umbyre is now known as Umbire 21:20 Umbire YES i did 21:20 I thought you did. 21:20 i distinctly remember dying the first time i made it to hell playing hack 21:21 well, we 21:21 friend and I 21:21 Oho? 21:21 we were like wtf 21:21 yeah 21:25 K2: Oh, for purposes of the ATT page, would you consider the Ice Queen's Realm spoiler territory? 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5711 21:35 yup 21:36 Aye 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 4372 points, T:6129, killed by a giant centipede of Thoth 21:49 K2: * [[Call Back]]: Gehennom and one of the new [[Sidequest]] branches, {{spoiler|the Ice Queen's Realm}}, will deal constant fire and cold damage to the player respectively, which can be reduced or even negated with enough of the appropriate resistances. This is a call back to Hell in the earliest versions of Hack: {{spoiler|entering without fire resistance, or else losing fire resistance while in that realm, would kill you instantly}}. 21:49 ^How's that look? 21:51 good except for the last sentence 21:51 oh wait 21:51 yeah thats good 21:51 sorry 21:51 50 diff things on my brain right now hah 21:59 All good. 22:09 qt - revised code appears to work fine 22:10 gonna push it 22:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU 22:19 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jtgnq 22:19 [EvilHack] k21971 ea9ba1f - Fix: prevent removal of special artifacts on bones level and the owner is present. 22:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 22:33 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:34 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtgCI 22:51 [EvilHack] k21971 fa926e1 - Fix: Oracle missing its artifact on the new oracle levels. 23:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtgCl 23:03 [EvilHack] k21971 b8ae70e - Fix: Oracle stayed peaceful when the gods took notice of thievery. 23:28 K2: got a question... I lost 2 levels and subsequently gained them back, but my spell fail% didn't return to previous levels. 23:28 did you need to retrain? 23:28 ^ 23:28 I did. 23:28 That's the first thing I check when I get level drained 23:28 race/role stats please 23:28 I was casting polymorph at 36% failure before. Now It's 99% 23:29 gnome wiz 23:29 i'll try to recreate 23:29 robe? 23:29 int/wis 23/21 23:29 that was with a robe. 23:29 what was your skill in matter? 23:30 ya, only down to 71% with a robe. It used to be 36% I think. 23:30 basic 23:30 basic max? 23:30 basic/expert 23:30 ok 23:30 what level were you 23:30 now I'm doubting myself... 23:31 and were you wearing body armor 23:31 my trained % is 135%... I wonder if I didn't get skilled back somehow. 23:31 was wearing my crystal plate, now I have black DSM 23:31 thats it 23:32 DSM is bad for spell casting? 23:33 see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Other_Changes 23:33 third one down 23:33 as a wiz casting a 6th level spell wearing body armor that isnt crystal plate, 30% penalty 23:34 well that's evil. 23:34 thank you 23:34 Sorry, I looked through the wiki for info but didn't catch that 23:35 no worries 23:35 lol 23:35 Yeah, non-CPM body armor raises casting rates now 23:35 Instead of just metal stuff 23:36 Guess I'll have to get extra naked for polypiling party 23:36 or keept the crystal plate 23:36 What happened to the CPM? 23:36 keep 23:36 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Crystal_plate_mail 23:38 it's in storage. 23:38 going to need to work out my reflection/MR strategy. 23:39 Ah, thought something happened to it 23:40 I could wish up some cpm with reflection, right? 23:40 no 23:40 eeeevil 23:40 lolno 23:40 you could always do Dragonbane 23:44 I guess the "few other items" that can't be amended with an object material in a wish includes CPM? 23:45 you can 23:45 In terms of object properties I don't think reflection is something you can wish for 23:45 reflection isnt an obj property 23:45 Oh well even better there you go 23:45 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Object_properties 23:46 CPM really should be flagged as magical 23:46 hmm no 23:46 if players know you can add an obj property to it, it would prob increase its use 23:46 snap, I was looking at object "materials" 23:47 see, this is why I shouldn't nethack so late 23:47 Yeah, there's no inherently reflective material 23:48 so I bet the motivation to make a reflective gloves artifact is to fill the gap for spellcasters who forgo body armor but still need reflection but are saving the neck slot for EotA 23:49 i dont think that was a consideration at the time but yeah that works 23:49 I mean that's more or less why DBane is so godly now 23:49 or MMM for reflection, but covetous jerks can steal that. 23:49 reflection + great ac + acid res 23:50 i kinda feel like i made dragonbane too OP 23:50 "kinda" 23:50 its so damn cool tho 23:50 I heard some kids talking on the reddit and they said someone told them it's hella OP 23:50 Yeah I wouldn't change it much (or at least slightly drop the AC if I did) 23:51 lets see what past me was thinking when i made dragonbane into gloves 23:51 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/399b3811e319e28aa5552a88ac41d1dec081a990 23:54 only thing that would make it more OP is as a monk-favored item - make them silver. 23:54 would go with the reflection idea. Like wonder woman and her bullet deflecting wrist warmers 23:55 just added this to the to-do: 23:55 Wielding/wearing any of the 'banes artifacts prevents the player from taming monsters that artifact is against, and should aggro the same (turn peaceful/tame to hostile) 23:55 that seems logical 23:55 yup 23:55 so long as there's never a purpleworm-bane 23:55 would do it for all the banes, not just dragonbane 23:56 vorpal blade is essentially jabberwockbane 23:58 brb