00:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±15] https://git.io/JtExr 00:12 [EvilHack] k21971 5178077 - Fix: containers made of iron would rust away and not drop their contents. 00:16 alright bedtime for me. gnite o/ 00:26 Sleep well! 00:37 Night! 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3814 00:43 * tinklebear grumbles 01:21 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 01:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:27 > The hobbit rogue wields a crude dagger named Grimtooth! 01:27 Awesome! 01:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6796 points, T:3976, killed by an enormous rat 01:29 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 01:33 !whereis arahael 01:33 tinklebear: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:25953 The Dungeons of Doom level: 10 01:33 tinklebear: I've been going up and down a lot lately. 01:33 Cursed telo scroll took me all the way back up to dlvl 4. (And out of danger) 01:33 heh 01:34 so it was a hostile hobbit? 01:35 Oh, yeah, it was. 01:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 292 points, T:910, killed by a coyote, while reading a book 01:35 disease is bad 01:36 I found Grimtooth on the floor. wondering if I should just bury it in sokoban 01:36 Well, I didn't melee it. :) 01:36 It's a really effective weapon. 01:36 And apparently even more so in evilhack. 01:37 cool. 01:37 Also, I'm chaotic. 01:38 so an appropriate weapon, i guess. you can get decent skill with dagger, etc 01:38 Right - expert. 01:39 I'm still "Basic" though - I don't know if I should enhance it. I never really know what the benefit is. 01:39 better to-hit, better damage I think. 01:40 maybe a multi-shot bonus too 01:40 Ah, yeah - multishot bonus. 01:40 Thing is I want to max all my spells. 01:41 yeah, if you're a wizard, plinking stuff with daggers isn't really what you want to lead with 01:41 or so I imagine 01:41 And I am still hoping to get magicbane, once my god finally likes me again. 01:41 I don't have MR at the moment, though, which is a worry. 01:45 should I ask what happened to your cloak? 01:46 Got too rotten, and went away. 01:47 argh 01:47 Dillipated armoury, I think it was. 01:47 Didn't quite get in. 01:47 sucks. sorry 01:48 I still have reflection, at least. 01:49 cool. so do you think I should bury grimtooth in soko, or should I bury it somewhere bones-elligible instead? 01:51 (burying it since I can only get basic in dagger, I'm an elf, i've got much better weapon options etc) 01:52 Hmm. Another bug? Dipping grimtooth into a forge doesn't repair it. 01:52 It's an iron dagger, afterall. 01:53 K2: Forges don't seem to repair iron daggers. 01:53 (Such as grimtooth) 01:53 Wait, it repaired it just then - took like 5 attempts. That's quite OK. 01:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3539 02:14 game is trolling me with crap artifact daggers. first I bury Grimtooth in soko. in the next level up's zoo, a nymph dropped Sting. 02:15 (I don't mean they're objectively crap btw. it's just that they aren't very useful to my character) 02:18 Hmm, I thought that if you had identified a spellbook as a wizard, you can read it reliably? 02:18 tinklebear: Evilhack is supposed to have made those much better, so I'm not sure why you don't want grimtooth - unless you're lawful or something? 02:18 I'm an elven knight. 02:19 chaotic, but an elf. 02:19 and a knight, so my weapon slots can do a lot of good things. 02:19 Ah, so completely useless, then, indeed. 02:19 Surprised knights can be chaotic. 02:20 I am very happy about this 02:20 Gotta have Dirge memes 02:20 arahael: Not always re: books, it just gives you a warning when there's a failure chance 02:21 A significant one, anyway 02:21 Interesting! 02:21 And most wizards have enough INT to learn p. much anything they need in *most* scenarios 02:21 Hmm, well, I've "only" got Int:18 02:25 You're probably reading something fairly high-level then 02:25 Levitation. 02:26 And cone of cold 02:29 Well what level were you? 02:29 I am Xp11. 02:30 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Spellbook#Success_rate_of_spellbook_reading 02:30 Now I'm Xp12! And I can fly now. 02:31 Might be that you just got unlucky on the learning roll 02:31 It happens 02:31 Perhaps. 02:37 "What monster do you want to genocide?" 02:37 I've no clue! 02:37 Maybe Alhoons, but I'm already a mindflayer. 02:38 Yep, doing alhoons. 02:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:29081 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:8319 02:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:57 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a mithril amulet of magic resistance, on T:8655 03:26 -!- Umbire_ has joined #evilhack 03:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:20273 04:14 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:19 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:20813 04:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:36363 04:58 It's now T:37000, and the god is *still* angry. 04:59 Well, you need a high value sacrifice 05:00 mobileuser: There's been many high value sacrifices. 05:00 mobileuser: Including a couple of grey unicorns. 05:01 It's more difficult for chaotics 05:03 I'll say(!) 05:04 I am trying to find it on the wiki, but the "anger" page is rather unclear 05:05 Yeah. It's a pity one can't easily objectively find out how close you are to mollifying. 05:05 Sacrificing a crocodile (1450 aum) results in "You have a feeling of inadequacy." 05:05 And that's pretty much where I've been for _ages_. 05:06 I seem to remember the minimum level for chaotics is documented somewhere... 05:06 Ah the "sacrifice" page 05:08 chaotic players must sacrifice a corpse of difficulty 11 or greater 05:08 Difficult to know exactly what level a monster is. :/ 05:08 that's also in the wiki :-) 05:09 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Monster_difficulty 05:09 you can sort the list 05:09 Ah, interesting. And unicorns are merely difficulty 6. 05:10 Ah, zruty is level 11, nice, because there's one nearby. But it's too hard to kill. 05:11 Your god will appreciate the effort to kill it ;-) 05:12 Woohoo! 05:12 > Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! Anhur seems mollified. 05:12 1800 aum is a bit tricky for an Illithid. 05:12 \o/ 05:12 Required a BoH *and* GoP. 05:12 yeah... 05:12 Glad I decided to get the GoP, instead of dragonbane. 05:14 This information about mollifying from the altar page should also be on the anger page... 05:15 I mean, from the "sacrifice" page 05:16 Yeah. 05:21 A big problem in this game is I don't really have any good weapons. I lost grimtooth, too. 05:21 Oh, wow... "Create Monster" can create NPC's! 05:23 How do you keep losing stuff :b 05:25 Yellow Dragon disolved it. 05:26 ouch 05:27 There must've been 4 of them. 05:27 Medusa level was quite difficult. 05:27 I badly want to do the ice queen level, but I'll have no chance there. Only HP 92, too. 05:29 yolo 05:30 I *know* I won't survive it yet. 05:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) murdered Vita Fidelia, her faithful cauchemar, on T:10449 05:36 OK I added the rule of thumb for mollifying to the anger page introduction 05:37 Curious to see how long it will take for someone to dislike my copying this from another page :b 05:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:21057 06:04 :) 06:09 *sigh*. peaceful gremlins on medusa level. 06:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 254799 points, T:38660, killed by an orange dragon 06:15 Good game, but I needed the ring of free action - MR too, but actualy free action was more important. A little frustrating not having much offensive weaponry or spells. 06:16 can't believe you copypasta'd 06:16 my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined 06:16 amateurhour: I just want to be very clear that person wasn't me. ) 06:16 ;) 06:28 lol 06:32 Your wand of teleportation breaks apart and explodes! I hate you Pat the invisible Bandit 06:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 23031 points, T:12532, killed by an air elemental 06:38 oh well1 06:39 :( 06:40 rip :-( 06:45 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 06:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:11 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 07:14 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:23 K2: While you're there adding exceptions to the third erosion hit destroying an item, you might as well do heavy iron ball as well. 07:24 but that would make triggering segfaults on demand slightly more annoying 07:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 1731 points, T:2695, quit 07:31 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 07:31 scare monster doesn't seem to affect a gold golem. I find this surprising. 07:32 golems are mindless 07:32 and no, as far as I know it was not blinded. 07:32 ah, thank you. 07:32 mindless. got it 07:33 need a mind to experience fear/scaredness 07:33 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 1397 points, T:2020, killed by an orc shaman, while helpless 07:48 there are some more scare monster rules that are different from vanilla, I'll add something to the evilhack page 07:50 must remember: scare monster is for saving yourself from the chameleon imitating an elder minotaur and sabre-tooth tiger. not golems. 07:51 doing the lord's work mobileuser 07:55 I dislike this logic. If they are so mindless as to be unable to experience fear, what is driving their aggression towards you, and their desire to single you out as the only target worth attacking? 07:57 Magic? 07:57 I guess you could justify it by saying they need to be able to read (or otherwise grasp the content) to understand that the scroll is something to be feared. 07:58 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 324 points, T:522, killed by a water moccasin 08:01 mobileuser: The scroll is magic, so it should work regardless, because magic! 08:01 I'd imagine their animator --whoever it was (some sorceror I guess)-- directed them to kill adventurers 08:05 or if you're a honey badger, fear just doesnt equate 08:05 fear? whats that? 08:06 honey badgers, too eh? 08:07 yup 08:07 the honey badger life: eating royal jelly, and biting you 08:08 only the simplest pleasures 08:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/monmove.c#L146 08:09 if/when i get around to adding wolverines, they'll go on that list too 08:12 also, conflict negates scare monster 08:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 21155 points, T:8770, killed by an energy vortex 08:31 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Scare_Monster added 08:32 nice mobileuser 08:32 I think nemesis ought to be pluralised 08:32 nem-nem's 08:32 thanks for adding it to the wiki 08:33 and how tf did rebatela die to an energy vortex 08:33 giants cant be engulfed 08:33 !lastgame rebatela 08:33 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1612355135.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1601668317.evil.html 08:33 if only there was a way for us to find out 08:34 ikr? 08:35 wouldn't surprise me if that two rounds took them from full to dead 08:35 yup 08:35 they're so nasty compared to the other vortices 08:35 I sometimes throne geno them in vanilla 08:35 nast-ee 08:36 EPI: acid vortices 08:36 EPI: filth vortices 08:37 EPI: disintegration vortices 08:37 make shambling mounds great again 08:37 (speaking of filth vortices) 08:38 add shambling mounds and let us saddle them to get shambling mounts 08:40 poor monks with their lack of a good ranged weapon 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (humans), on T:1 08:52 although a giant monk has boulders of course 08:55 I tried to do spears with my monk, but it was just too difficult. Spears are heavy. 08:55 And shuruken are so rare. 08:58 unnethack used to have a disintegration vortex 08:59 not sure exactly what the name was 08:59 bhaak will have to fill us in on how long it lasted before it was pulled 08:59 antimatter vortex 08:59 ^ that 09:00 IIRC it was from the biodiversity patch? 09:00 ah, no, commit log says from NetHack Brass 09:00 almost exactly 3 years 09:01 from April 2009 to April 2012 09:06 -!- stenno4 has joined #evilhack 09:07 I guess antimatter in unnethack annihilates quietly and without a fuss? 09:08 it doesn't matter 09:08 does it also annihilate the vortex (like cutting down its maxhp) as it disintegrates your things? 09:08 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3924 09:10 bhaak wasnt it removed because it was too nasty? 09:10 * K2 is becoming more interested 09:10 NO! 09:10 :D 09:12 every day evilhack strays further from the light 09:12 and embraces its slexy nature 09:13 it's a disintegration attack on touch 09:13 so every time it hits you, something vanished. quite evil, yes. would make a fine addition to evilhack 09:13 evilhack wouldn't add anything like that, would it..? 09:13 * amateurhour looks at black dragons 09:16 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:16 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 4439 points, T:4949, killed by a gnomish wizard 09:24 -!- stenno1 has joined #evilhack 09:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:25 now i am :) 09:25 yeah, this channel gave you away ;-) 09:26 gotcha lol 09:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:26 we have the mighty EvilBot here 09:27 !goat mobileuser 09:27 amateurhour's goat runs up and headbutts mobileuser in the nose! Baaaaaa! 09:27 \o/ 09:28 K2 leprechauns should have a grudge against gold golems 09:28 haha 09:29 YANI: if a gold golem is hit by a SGLD attack, the attacker gains some gold pieces and the golem loses some maxhp 09:29 leprechauns should abduct gold golems 09:29 that could be pretty epic if you are poly'd into a gold golem... 09:29 oh you can't be 09:30 nopoly blehhhh 09:30 really? 09:30 gold golems aren't nopoly 09:30 oh 09:30 then nvm on my nvm 09:30 they're nogeno 09:30 yeah I think I was a gold golem once from a polytrap 09:31 so in xnethack if you chuck a thiefstone at and hit a gold golem, it teleports/levelports the golem off to its stash 09:31 golems have stashes? 09:32 the thiefstone's keyed location 09:32 not the golem 09:32 ah ok 09:32 it has to be blessed though 09:32 because only blessed thiefstones steal gold 09:35 for a while I had the idea of adding new generic artifacts: moonstone (name from ultima, might need a different one for nethack). act like directed level teleports but only to locations of other moonstones 09:37 my idea: toadstone -- attracts toads (also toads would have to be added to the game) 09:38 roadstone - gather 10000 of them and you can pave a new road! nethack becomes a city building simulator 09:39 qt: juiblex is close enough to a toad 09:39 bhaak: 'generic artifacts' 09:39 ? 09:40 that sounds awesome bhaak 09:40 and what, my idea doesn't sound awesome amateurhour? 09:40 aosdict: well, they have an invoke function but are not quite unique. you would be able to find a few of them in the game 09:41 they wouldn't probably use the arifact structures but they would behave similar to artifacts 09:42 qt: your idea sounds so sensible that I am assuming it needs no support to be added 09:42 although there is no artiwish restrictions in unnethack anymore, so I'm not sure if it would matter 09:46 i just got nostalgic for ultima V bhaak 09:47 loved those games 09:48 bards tale 09:48 eye of the beholder 09:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23210 09:49 or it stays "moonstone" and they only work on full moon {-: 09:50 Odin how about Mjollnir finally 09:56 antimatter vortex 09:56 hah 09:56 did it engulf things bhaak? 09:59 -!- stenno2 has joined #evilhack 10:01 -!- stenno1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 10:01 K2: yes 10:01 oh my 10:02 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:02 so did it behave like an energy vortex? if engulfed as long as you didnt melee it you were mostly ok? 10:03 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 10:03 -!- stenno3 has joined #evilhack 10:04 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law), 1682 points, T:2680, quit 10:13 K2 I meant Evil Patch Idea not Evilhack Patch Idea sry :/ 10:13 T O O L A T E 10:13 :P 10:14 fwiw i've known about the antimatter vortex since before evilhack, never had the pleasure of playing unnethack while it was included though 10:14 IIRC it did touch you if you didn't move. 10:15 hah 10:15 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Anti-matter_vortex 10:15 only generated in gehennom 10:15 looks like it only had the engulf attack 10:17 passive disintegration 10:17 if you hit it, it disintegrated what you hit it with unless it was disintegration resistant 10:18 because it fell under touch_disintegrates(ptr) 10:18 that's basically the same as attacking a black dragon or humanoid wearing BDSM, but it doesnt happen with every single hit 10:19 that would have been probably a good balancing idea 10:19 and in evilhack, if the object in question is blessed or fooproof, it resists more often 10:20 nice 10:20 you should rethink the name of your variant 10:20 ooooooooooo 10:20 omg no :) 10:20 NotSoEvilActuallyNiceCouldBeMuchWorseHack 10:21 kek 10:21 think of it this way. if things were evil 100% of the time, non one would play. you have to give nice things also. cant appreciate the sour without the sweet 10:22 eternal suffering in hell is a fable. if that were the case, all of the poor souls there would become numb to it all pretty quickly 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 376 points, T:344, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:23 haha and which part of that is the carrot? 10:23 all of it :) 10:24 we made it so attacking monsters can delet ur stuff but dw you can lessen the chances of that happening by using up more of your resources 10:24 aren't we generous 10:24 isn't that a juicy carrot 10:24 * K2 starts singing 'sweet dream are made of this' 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:76691 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76693 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4957 10:33 weird. I found minetown bones and looking at the dumplog, they died with a stethoscope, but i can't find on level? 10:34 rebatela: sometimes the killer will take some valuable items from the bones pile and vanish apparently 10:34 they loot the corpse and skedaddle 10:36 ahh 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:76720 10:40 the upside is, the OP attacker has a chance of disappearing too 10:41 right 10:42 gl VaderFLAG! 10:42 it was a watch captain. there's a watch captain alive. could he have grabbed the stethscope and stayed on the level? or do they always leave? 10:43 I don't think they always leave... I had a bones level earlier where the killer dwarf had some of the loot 10:43 invisible little bastard 10:43 thanks 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:76885 10:53 hey! he was my ride to work! 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:4819 10:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jtu2g 10:58 [EvilHack] k21971 421d12a - Fix: rabid dog encyclopedia entry. 10:59 how do you think the quest leader pronounces the first line? https://0x0.st/-ogd.png 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:76970 11:00 cutie sun 11:00 the one before that lol 11:02 I imagine they pronounce it like "fn,jtw~v?^" but with a japanese accent 11:03 it's the result of running xcrypt on "gj(bdvqz~/_", which is the last part of the line "ZUlm~!{k}0bcj(dikjc0$c$i~e"ekd!'e(digj(bdvqz~/_" in dat/quest.dat (the whole line thru xcrypt is "[When you can think %a and act %a then return.]") 11:03 so for some reason this message index is starting a bit early apparently 11:04 (xcrypt is stateful within a line so translating only part of the line results in gibberish) 11:13 I wrote what basically amounts to a standalone wrapper for xcrypt a while ago btw, it is helpful sometimes for debugging things like this: https://gitlab.com/entrez/xcrypt 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:77410 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed the invisible coplate's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6125 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:78224 11:37 lol 11:37 Naturally. 11:38 The sacrifice I make on my way up, just to top off the luck 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:78575 11:51 lol vaderflag 11:57 Getting some weird text in astral I've never seen before: Some missiles bounce off! `xq)}c~qg-' 11:57 Some missiles bounce off! j~|l`the Master Assassinup3' 11:58 t#gb|1goi93 "Go ahead, fetch thy mama! I shall wait." 11:58 that's weird 11:58 k2: placing steed onto map, mstate:0, on Dlvl:28 ? Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 11:58 preceeded by The fire giant knocks Pegasus back with a powerful strike! 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:78869 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:78872 12:01 VaderFLAG: that's the same kind of thing that I was talking about earlier 12:01 with xcrypt 12:02 something is weird 12:02 Yes 12:02 I can't reproduce it locally though... at least not the one I got in the quest 12:04 maybe rebuilding the files in dat/ would fix it? 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:78915 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:78917 12:07 or nhdat is getting messed up by something I guess? 12:13 hothraxxa were you riding said pegasus at the time? 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:78991 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:78992 12:14 qt: maybe updating the data.base file during a running game causes that? 12:14 cuz i did that a lil while ago (the rabid dog bit) 12:15 VaderFLAG do you mind saving/reloading? 12:15 see if that resolves it 12:15 ok 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:9202 12:16 k2: i was and still am 12:16 ok thanks 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 4432306 points, T:79021, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1611697156.evil.html 12:17 so in the castle melee, a golden naga cursed pegasus which i assume means it cursed the saddle 12:17 it may have yeah 12:18 VaderFLAG grats! 12:18 how can i fix this, or do i even need to? 12:18 congrats. 12:18 also cobgrats 12:18 or congrats 12:18 Wow what a slog that rogue was 12:19 the red horse dying early is such a huge impact 12:19 congrats vaderflag 12:19 yeah i always get my red horse killed pretty early on 12:20 congrats VaderFLAG 12:21 K2: I don't know if updating data.base could cause it, since I don't think it gets written to nhdat or anything, but I don't know for sure 12:21 hothraxxa: having a cursed saddle is bad. you'd have to dismount, get it off the steed and uncurse it 12:21 both the quest stuff I encountered and the "fetch thy mama" taunt come from nhdat 12:22 data.base gets wrapped up into that i think 12:23 bad how? 12:23 only way i know to get it off is with a bullwhip 12:24 poly into a nymph and steal it i suppose 12:24 Cursed saddles cannot be removed via looting, and you cannot mount a monster equipped with a cursed saddle; if the saddle is cursed while you are riding, it will prevent you from dismounting as well. 12:24 ^ from wiki 12:25 yes i just read that 12:25 \o/ 12:26 looks like prayer is my only option 12:27 i never ride so i wasn't aware of the subtleties. i should have blessed it 12:27 the saddle i mean 12:27 i've learned this the hard way also 12:27 i also dont ride often 12:27 did you fix it? 12:27