01:18 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 01:24 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 01:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:43 mobileuser: hello! 02:52 re Demogorgon, he also is supposed to have two heads. but if ettins are anything to go by, this is of no consequence. did he wear a helmet? (just one?) 02:53 Ettins actually ignore stealth most times, actually 02:53 that's interesting 02:54 sort of an oblique nod to two-headedness, but it certainly isn't nothing 02:54 actually actually actually actually actually actually 02:54 6_9 02:54 I can't type for shit lately 02:54 But yes, that is indeed a thing 02:55 cool 02:55 Fiddling with how armor works to account for multiple limbs/heads is one of those SMOP things, I'd imagine 02:55 And granted stealth would be... all but functionally useless against Demo? 02:55 At least in vanilla 02:56 I know Evil gives him a lair so jury's out on the viability there 02:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:57 Hi tinklebear 02:58 I didn't probe Demo to see if he was wearing anything, so I can't be sure 02:59 But he refused to wear anything I gave him 02:59 ah, okay. weird 02:59 No hands is tough... 02:59 tentacles! 03:00 two rot-inducing tentacles, apparently 03:01 so you were like an infidel permanently transformed into a demon or something? 03:01 yeah, pretty cool 03:01 crowning does that 03:01 reward from Moloch 03:02 wow. so were all the purple demons peaceful? 03:02 or was it just some of them? 03:02 in that game yes actually 03:02 in a previous game some were hostile 03:02 (RNG) 03:02 i see. 03:03 and so they did the warp-to-you thing like a peaceful warper does, I guess 03:04 Yep 03:04 (also not that it matters but he has two tendrils in place of each hand) 03:04 Apparently Orcus fucking hates him lmfao 03:05 Yeah, but strangely there were 2 types 03:05 really? 03:05 Some were sticky and some tried to get away as far as possible on teleport-allowed levels 03:05 Don't know why 03:05 wow, cool 03:06 are you playing another infidel game now/soon? 03:06 Not soon :-) 03:06 lol, okay 03:06 I am doing all the roles again 03:07 haha 03:07 But it's a really fun role 03:07 sure sounds like it 03:07 mobileuser: Might've been teleporting after enemies to kill, idk 03:08 I think that's a thing they do? 03:08 Haven't had an L pet in a while, so can't say 03:08 They behaved like all peacefuls, so not much help 03:09 But they will attack angels 03:09 Was hoping to take some to astral, but for various reasons they all perished earlier 03:10 next time! 03:10 yeah :-) 03:10 that'll be so awesome 03:10 demons vs angels 03:10 I could equip Orcus, but he got killed by my vampire mage pet 03:12 higher-order version of pet purple-L killing the shopkeeper 03:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:13 or temple priest or whatever 03:27 when the demon invasion of astral finally happens it'll be a day for the history books 03:32 it'd be kind of epic if astral was randomly like that 04:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1961 04:15 And then ate it. Turns out that's a bad idea too. 04:31 amateurhour: if only there were some very short abbreviation for the day of that historic invasion 04:32 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:35 -!- stenno is now known as Guest19061 04:36 d-day 04:37 omg genius 04:38 arahael, I feel like I've seen the slogan Pets Not Food. I guess that's what it meant. 04:39 TIL "Not" can mean exclusive-or 04:43 Indeed. 04:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1853 points, T:3173, killed by a jumping spider 05:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 326 points, T:2394, killed by a giant spider 05:50 Wow. Got attacked. Prayed. Got full healing. Moved away. Poison insta-death. 05:51 idk how you have so much patience lol 05:52 ha. 05:53 It helps having wisdom teeth pulled out and you can't do much else. 06:11 -!- Guest19061 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 06:11 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:18 I mean, I've split my day between watching disneyplus and nethack :( 06:18 But I do enjoy the nethack, at least. 06:52 why do they call them wisdom teeth anyways 06:53 they don't seem like wise design 06:53 but maybe I'm missing something, as always 06:55 probably because they develop as you're reaching maturity 06:55 for some definition of maturity 06:57 Wikipedia says that problems from them were rare until the industrial revolution. 07:18 * tinklebear falls down mandibular morphology rabbithole 07:21 ok, i think i just found a bug/speed tech in NetHack 3.6.6 07:21 if i'm reading the code right, the alignment of the minetown altar will always be the same as the alignment of the leftmost astral altar *as long as you don't save and reload the game* 07:22 this is still present in 3.7 too 07:23 epic 07:23 luxidream ^ 07:25 (where "leftmost" refers to the layout pre-flipping) 07:26 also, if you happen to get a shrine themed room (with all 3 altars), the middle one is the same as the middle astral 07:26 if you can identify whether the shrine room has been flipped or not, then the pre-flipped order actually matches exactly 07:26 but idk (i've actually never seen a shrine room) 07:30 the arc quest also has 3 altars which give away the order of the astral plane altars too 07:31 oh wait this is totally the wrong chat 07:31 oh this is #evilhack, might be worth mentioning in #hardfought 07:31 sorry LOL 07:31 yeah haha, I was about to tag luxidream on discord 07:37 is it fixed in 3.7? 07:38 didn't read far enough sorry 07:38 we're talking about the bug in #hardfought now 07:39 the three altars in the temple to the gods themed room are randomly positioned, how is there a "middle" one? 07:40 aosdict: ah, i misread the code 07:40 mixed that up with the arc quest level 07:40 indeed you can't tell in the temple themed room 07:41 but in the arc quest, they are in a fixed order 07:43 -!- aoei has joined #evilhack 07:46 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (hobbits), on T:1 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 08:49 Oof. 08:49 Tried to genocide mind flayers? 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a weredemon, on T:73073 08:59 arahael - post163 likes to kill themselves as early as possible 09:00 Each to their own! 09:00 some weird sort of satisfaction 09:00 yeah they have 10's of thousands of games doing just that 09:02 post is famous in this community haha 09:03 they did it a lot in vanilla with knights 09:03 to the point the ascension stats for knights are horribly skewed lmao 09:04 It's curious how most of us have... Rather substantial quirks with this game. 09:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3535 09:23 It seems *every freaking time* I pray, successfully, I insta-death. 09:23 moloch is trying to tell you something 09:23 > The ettin zombie starts to attack you, but pulls back. You finish your prayer. You feel that Anhur is well-pleased. You feel better. 09:23 > The ettin zombie scratches you! You die... Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y) 09:23 VaderFLAG I hope the damage from becoming a weredemon wasn't too severe? >.< 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) murdered Void II, her faithful black dragon, on T:73547 09:24 It wasn't too bad 09:24 Not paying attention this morning 09:24 being a weredemon may not be too bad actually 09:24 can get neato pets 09:24 I think you break out of your armor? 09:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2293 points, T:3538, killed by an ettin zombie 09:24 I forgot that the d in vlad's void was a weredemon and not a devil dog 09:24 So yeah lost my armor shirt and cloak 09:25 oof 09:25 and nearly dropped everything into the void 09:25 yeah that's what I'm always afraid of around weredemons 09:26 I had JUST enchanted all that stuff up to max, naturally 09:26 But that's replacable 09:26 Killed a conduct because I wasn't paying attention though! 09:26 Need to add feel feverish to the config 09:27 A moment's lack of attention and things can go south pretty quickly 09:27 mobileuser - https://git.io/JtRZh 09:28 ^ for 0.7.0 09:28 Yeah I saw that, thx! :-) 09:28 RNG's given me AC:5 to start with, curious. 09:28 Usually I'm AC:8 or AC:9. 09:29 dexterity affects AC 09:29 as does worn body armor and what type 09:29 Ah, interesting. 09:29 Dx:20, that's astonishingly good for an illithid. 09:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:38 Weird... This "+0 crude chain mail" only gives me 1 unit of ACV. 09:38 *AC 09:40 dex gives ac in evilhack?? 09:40 heaviness of armour matters?? 09:40 is this new 09:42 wearinbg metal body armor negates any dex gains 09:42 *wearing 09:42 and its not new 09:43 been in the game since feb 2019 09:43 so before it was publically available to play online :) 09:45 *heavy metallic armor 09:45 wearing mithril, you'd still enjoy the dex ac bonus 09:45 cuz mithril is awesome 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:74142 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:74146 09:46 not mentioned on the wiki or I am blind 09:46 see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/do_wear.c#L2666 09:47 no its not on the wiki for evilhack 09:47 E A S T E R E G G 09:48 if it's not on the wiki it doesn't exist 09:49 you're not on the wiki... 09:50 yes but I don't exist 09:50 ... what? who said that? 09:53 evilhack, dnh, slam, all need a better way to report the dex ac thing 09:53 idk what the solution is 09:57 I think it's fine as it is. 09:58 ???? 09:58 < arahael> Weird... This "+0 crude chain mail" only gives me 1 unit of ACV. 09:58 if it was obvious what happened when you equipped it you wouldn't have found that weird 09:59 i can add a blurn about dex on the wiki 09:59 blurb even 09:59 but i'm not adding anything to the game about what made your dex change 09:59 it's more confusing in dnh, but all the variants with that (including slam) have the same problem 09:59 problem? 10:00 of it being confusing to wear armour and see your ac barely changing 10:00 and going "????" and asking in irc 10:00 arahael was just asking for a friend 10:01 :P 10:16 [backscroll] blurn should be a word 10:16 oh it's already an urban dictionary word lol 10:19 I hate it when they zap digging in the sokoban corridor 10:20 Gonna have to waste my scroll of earth 10:28 what's slam? 10:28 slash'em 10:29 it's canon 10:29 says it in the FAQ :^) 10:29 lies 10:29 slamfaq.txt 10:29 see, canon 10:29 slash'em is only canon if we talk about bad code 10:30 it doesn't have any other competencies 10:30 it has a better monk than vanilla by far 10:30 change my view 10:30 :P 10:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:32 * bhaak puts a helm of opposite alignemnt on amateurhour's head 10:41 was slash'em the first to have the monk role? 10:41 yeah 10:41 * K2 loves monk 10:42 ah, so slash'em has by default the correct implementation then ;-) 10:42 I'm gonna ascend a monk in each variant and write a tier list of monks 10:42 \o/ 10:42 (eventually, when I get back to actually playing) 10:42 start with vanilla, that's your control 10:43 slash'em has all those #techniques 10:43 splicehack imported that over 10:43 splicehack is kinda like a quasi-slah'em on 3.7 code 10:43 *slash'em 10:44 I like splicehack 10:44 i do too 10:44 been trying ghoul monk in spl but you're kinda forced to play foodless 10:44 i havent really played it recently, it has a LOT of new changes since i last ascended 10:44 the variant I'm least looking forward to is probs evilhack ;^) 10:45 pfft 10:45 so you will ascend slex monk first? 10:45 oh, I don't count that 10:45 fun fact amateurhour - I am the only player to ascend fiqhack monk on a public server 10:45 SLASH'EM is where Monk originated, yeah 10:45 for me, "when I get back to actually playing" pretty much just means june and november these days 10:45 not for long K2 I have an ascension-ready monk 10:45 very surprised no one else has done it 10:45 It got ported to vanilla but no techs, hence Master Kaen being a biggedy bitch 10:45 amateurhour talk is cheap :P 10:46 the one that we found the bug hall of fame bug on 10:46 ah the weird branch jumps 10:46 yeah that 10:46 that was epic 10:46 so much fun haha 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:75447 11:19 comfy 11:19 house slippers 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:75666 11:21 Kos has been a real stinge this game 11:21 This whole game has been snakebit 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:21432 12:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19 [12:19] [[EvilHack]] !M http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137487&oldid=137427&rcid=87920 * K2 * (+438) /* Other Changes */ Dexterity 12:22 :? 12:22 what is :? 12:22 *? 12:22 is that crumply sad face emoji? 12:22 brb 12:22 No, it's a typo 12:23 lol 12:23 ?_? 12:54 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:09 !who 13:09 mobileuser: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "holy historic very greased unlit thoroughly extinguished fixed +5 gray dragon scale mail named welcome to cancel culture suckers", on T:23366 13:17 errmahgerd 13:17 !who 13:17 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 13:17 better 13:17 :P 13:18 heh 13:19 hezrou with polywand in the zoo 13:20 D: 13:20 let's see where yolo takes me 13:21 awesome 13:22 sounds epic 13:23 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "very historic holy blessed partly eaten diluted unlocked thoroughly +5 dragonbane named shiny mitts", on T:23394 13:24 some asshole named wang won't hand them over :( 13:24 kill him 13:25 Wang the Wayfarer 13:25 it comes up +5 often enough that i always go for it 13:25 oops 13:26 hah he ran 13:26 'And I ran... I ran so far away...' 13:26 i should teach npc's to ditch awesome gear into forges when they are in flee mode 13:27 that's evil 13:27 i can hear hothraxxa mumbling under his breath 13:28 'fucking wand of tele!' 13:28 oh lordt... 13:28 this wand has a lot of charges lol 13:30 woop got 'em 13:32 what an asshole 13:32 at least he wasn't wearing lifesaving and didn't have full healing 13:32 Wang the Asshole 13:33 bag is just oilskin, oh well 13:34 that was a two wish throne 13:34 so far 13:36 damn 13:38 wang was xl23 and i'm just xl11 13:41 good job 13:42 * Umbire claps 13:51 "The hezrou zaps a wand of digging!" errmahgerd 13:52 :) 13:53 second scroll of earth wasted, but finally a free path to the soko prize 13:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of magic resistance, on T:9289 13:54 right, time to cook dinner :-) 13:55 NO DISHES 13:56 save time by washing them as ur eating from them 13:56 another problem solved, you're welcome 14:05 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 14:09 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2912 points, T:8505, killed by a scroll of earth 14:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] HeavenlyPete (Val Cen Fem Neu), 557 points, T:1533, killed by a water moccasin 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 3798 points, T:3995, crunched in the head by an iron ball 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] HeavenlyPete (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 76 points, T:509, killed by a fox, while reading a book 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] HeavenlyPete (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 521 points, T:857, zombified by a hobbit zombie 15:40 a - a leather oilskin cloak :O 15:41 are cloaks an exception? can one have a dragonhide oilskin cloak? 15:44 wtf is an alhoon doing in sokoban? 15:45 ah it's a shapechanger 15:47 Sokomeleons Strike Back 15:51 a giant segeant just spawned and dropped a boulder. i thought that wasn't supposed to happen 15:54 second shapechanger alhoon. this really sucks 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 3367 points, T:967, killed by an orc-captain 15:57 ok k2 we need to talk 15:58 first, shapechangers shouldn't turn into way out of level monsters 15:58 sure they should 15:58 second, no way should giants spwan in sokoban, let alone drop boulders 15:58 again, sure they should 15:59 you're not playing easyhack 15:59 really? they should? 15:59 yup 15:59 i realize that. i appear to be playing a variation of slex 15:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jt0c4 15:59 [EvilHack] k21971 b875705 - Adjustments to throne wishes. 15:59 hothraxxa only polymorphs into level-appopriate forms. I always see him pick "bugbear 15:59 they do in vanilla hothraxxa 16:00 " ... form, to give the hostiles a fair chance 16:00 oh sorry, the variant that calls itself nethack 16:00 * tinklebear is lying, in a way 16:02 what is the point of polymorph if you can't polymorph into cool monsters? 16:03 you can poly into a lichen. they're cool 16:03 brown mold is even cooler :P 16:03 get it? cooler? lol 16:03 it's very good, K2 16:03 pfft 16:03 been honing that craft! 16:03 that was horrible 16:05 anyways, sokoban is a trap. 16:07 so long as its not flipped, its fine :) 16:07 this vampire bat just dropped a boh in sokoban 16:07 \o/ 16:08 surely now i will die 16:08 get out while you still can 16:08 hothraxxa is actually in pretty good shape 16:08 asc level kit almost 16:09 almost 16:09 Then what the hell is hothraxxa doing in soko? 16:09 the almost part, i guess? 16:10 are evilhack alhoon shock resistant? 16:10 lemme look 16:10 well i came here for the tool, since i have mr and reflection 16:10 yes 16:10 bow i have a boh as well 16:11 MR_PSYCHIC | MR_FIRE | MR_COLD | MR_SLEEP | MR_ELEC | MR_POISON 16:11 ^ alhoon resistances 16:11 yes: MR_PSYCHIC | MR_FIRE | MR_COLD | MR_SLEEP | MR_ELEC | MR_POISON 16:11 tinklebear heh 16:11 argh 16:11 stop looking my my terminal screen! 16:11 damn. wait, stetchoscope said it was vulnerable to fire 16:11 -c 16:11 hothraxxa that's a bug thats been fixed for 0.7.0 16:12 now you tell me. at least i know why it didn't take any damage after i wasted my wand of fire charge 16:12 yes, didn't you go through this before? 16:12 we discussed this in this channel a few days back 16:12 not you hothraxxa 16:12 mobileuser 16:12 must have been afk 16:13 even the stethoscope is a lie 16:14 i'm loathe to make changes to monst.c even knowing it wont break saves 16:14 but in this instance i prob should 16:14 we know hothraxxa will forget and encounter this again in a few days :P 16:16 i'm 73 and a half going on 74. of course i'll forget 16:17 * hothraxxa angry, shakes fist at cloud 16:17 happy birthday! 16:18 (belated or early) 16:18 🦀mods won't reply to this question 🦀 16:18 < mobileuser> are cloaks an exception? can one have a dragonhide oilskin cloak? 16:18 hi amateurhour 16:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM 16:18 lol 16:19 I guess it is because "oilskin cloak" is already a vanilla magical item 16:20 (and yes, I tried to fry alhoons and arch-liches to no avail) 16:21 dammit it's 4:21 and my vapourizer isn't loaded :( 16:21 at least you have 21 charges left 16:22 (sorry) 16:22 hah 16:27 there's a mumak in the zoo taking out everything. not sure why 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 358 points, T:953, killed by a brown mold 16:29 Black light? 16:29 undead to grudge against? 16:29 Hatred of small things? 16:34 i'm guessing black light 16:35 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 16:36 !rng ( | [ 16:36 hothraxxa: [ 16:36 hmm 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:26903 16:38 \o/ 16:38 as k2 would say 16:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:40 the tool was a marker 16:42 helm of speed is very nice 16:44 -2 ac but i'll live with it 16:45