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05:40 <mobileuser> Hi
05:40 <EvilBot> Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack
07:15 <mobileuser> Heh, I just figured out from monst.c that it is save to eat a lesser nightmare. Probably deserves some wiki mention.
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09:00 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 12 commits to master [+0/-0/±12] https://git.io/JtBVr
09:00 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] aoeixsz4 462e35c - fix python3 type errors in xlogfile parsing
09:00 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] k21971 c8b7221 - Merge pull request #11 from aoeixsz4/master
09:00 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] aoeixsz4 753ee32 - fix urllib.quote() -> urllib.parse.quote()
09:00 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] ... and 9 more commits.
09:01 -!- mode/EvilBot [+Zi] by EvilBot
09:01 -!- rothfuss.freenode.net changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.6.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information
09:20 <mobileuser> !whereis mobileuser
09:20 <EvilBot> mobileuser: mobileuser is not playing.
09:21 <mobileuser> :-(
09:21 <mobileuser> !lastgame
09:21 <EvilBot> mobileuser: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:mwrynn) :: [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:mobileuser) :: [hdf-au] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:Arahael)
09:21 <amateurhour> turn that frown upside down and start playing :^)
09:21 <amateurhour> )-:
09:22 <mobileuser> !who
09:22 <EvilBot> mobileuser: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
09:22 <hothraxxa> epi: when you kill a shopkeeper, all the goods in the shop become cursed
09:23 <K2> so right now thanks to Tangles, livelogging and death messages work again
09:24 <K2> some other functions with the bot do not, but those are minor in comparison
09:24 <mobileuser> thanks Tangles
09:24 <mobileuser> progress!
09:24 <K2> \o/
09:24 <K2> i havent been able to recreate an engulfer just disappearing whilst being engulfed
09:25 <mobileuser> yeah I imagine that would be difficult to reproduce
09:26 <mobileuser> can an engulfer die from "outside influences" so to say?
09:27 <mobileuser> hothraxxa nice way to make cursed water ;-)
09:27 <K2> i'm not sure
09:28 <K2> i dont think events occur outside of the engulfer
09:28 <K2> while being engulfed, i keep checking its health and it doesnt change
09:28 <K2> even tho i have a tame archon with sunsword beating everything in its path
09:29 <mobileuser> Well at least it's on the radar now should others report it
09:29 <K2> yup
09:29 <K2> and you were a crowned infidel correct?
09:29 <mobileuser> yes
09:29 <K2> did it happen while not crowned?
09:29 <VaderFLAG> I haven't noticed any odd engulfing behavior
09:30 <mobileuser> K2 I don't think so...
09:30 <amateurhour> mobileuser do you have a ttyrec where it happened?
09:30 <amateurhour> see if we can guess possible causes from the map at the time
09:30 <mobileuser> wow, that would be a pain to find again
09:30 <K2> yeah dont worry about digging up a ttyrec
09:30 <amateurhour> yeah especially as you play so many short sessions haha
09:30 <mobileuser> yup :-)
09:30 <amateurhour> maybe next time it happens then
09:31 <mobileuser> next infidel :-)
09:31 <amateurhour> oh do you remember roughly where you were when it last happened?
09:31 <amateurhour> because I'll try find the ttyrec later maybe
09:31 <mobileuser> somewhere in hell, but I wouldn't bother really
09:32 <amateurhour> has anyone ascended an uncrowned infidel yet?
09:32 <mobileuser> I've also been engulfed many times without weirdness
09:32 <K2> mobileuser was it any engulfer or a specific type?
09:32 <mobileuser> any engulfer
09:32 <K2> ok
09:33 <mobileuser> well, I had a ring of slow digestion, don't remember if it happened with a digester
09:34 <mobileuser> amateurhour all 3 infidel ascensions were demon ones
09:34 <mobileuser> if you use an oppo helm you could get crowned as lawful first
09:34 <mobileuser> to avoid the demon form later on
09:50 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JtBoB
09:50 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] NHTangles 0261b5d - python3 - fix !streak to use datetime values
09:50 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] NHTangles b6f38a8 - python3 - make logging work again without using twistd
09:50 <Not-7024> [EvilBot] k21971 7ab07cb - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder
09:51 -!- mode/EvilBot [+Zi] by EvilBot
09:51 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ version 0.6.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information
09:52 <K2> !streak VaderFLAG
09:52 <EvilBot> K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG Max[evil]: 3 (2020-12-30 - 2021-01-14).
09:55 <VaderFLAG> :|
09:58 <K2> !streak k2
09:58 <EvilBot> K2: [hdf-us] k2 Max[evil]: 2 (2020-01-13 - 2020-01-27).
09:58 <K2> hmm bit of lag there
09:59 <K2> beholder bot does it almost instantly
09:59 <K2> i'll need to look into that
10:21 <hothraxxa> holy crap, my enormous rat just one-shot a small mimic. i didn't know they did that much damage
10:22 <hothraxxa> hm. wiki says 1d6. do small mimics generate with 6 or less hp?
11:24 <tinklebear> in src/monst.c i see this comment line:attack structs ( type , damage-type, # dice, # sides )
11:24 <EvilBot> tinklebear: Message from mobileuser at 2021-01-30 12:43 EST: ah Demo having no hands would explain that, thx!
11:25 <tinklebear> ...and at entry for enormous rat I see: ATTK(AT_BITE, AD_PHYS, 2, 6)
11:25 <tinklebear> so it looks like damage is 2d6
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13:05 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Kos, on T:67523
13:05 <VaderFLAG> Evilbot back reporting events just in time to show off my lame gift
13:06 <mobileuser> \o/
13:13 <VaderFLAG> Ok I am such a slow case when it comes to disintegration resistance... but if you have 100% dis resist, can you beat on a black dragon? I noticed I don't take any damage from npc BDSM but can weapons stil vaporize?
13:13 <K2> yes
13:14 <K2> you having disnit res does != your gear also having it
13:14 <VaderFLAG> Ok so when you have 100% resist, and no wand of probing, there's no way to know if your weapons will suddenly go poof since you no longer get the ouch messages
13:14 <K2> blessing/fooproofing your gear gives it a decent chance of resisting however
13:15 <K2> this is the way
13:15 <mobileuser> I was typing a long message and you just... posted it
13:15 <K2> :P
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14:11 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Kos, on T:68879
14:11 <VaderFLAG> sigh
14:18 <K2> these shoes were made for walking...
14:18 <VaderFLAG> walking right into alhoon city
14:19 <K2> oooh alhoon city? that's an interesting idea
14:19 <VaderFLAG> Like the mind flayer breeding room
14:19 <K2> >:-D
14:21 <K2> mind flayer larva should grudge all living humanoid types
14:21 <K2> so when they kill them they become mind flayers
14:22 <VaderFLAG> Yes
14:29 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:69532
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15:02 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12788
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15:07 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had an apron entrusted to her by Set, on T:8486
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15:08 <hothraxxa> yeah. only five turns too late
15:08 <hothraxxa> just got hit with acid
15:21 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1358 points, T:3794, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze
15:23 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 32 points, T:74, killed by a dart
15:25 <K2> made it through artifacts
15:25 <K2> now onto regular objects
15:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:14393
15:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:70055
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15:33 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:70264
15:48 <aosdict> what are you doing K2
15:49 <amateurhour> he's writing the great american novel for each artifact in the game
15:49 <aosdict> oh right encyclopedia
15:50 <K2> si
15:50 <K2> found an ok quote for iron safe from the movie 'die hard'
15:51 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:70879
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15:59 <aosdict> nice
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16:01 <K2> onto races/roles
16:01 <K2> almost done \o/
16:03 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5314
16:16 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:10334
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16:25 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:10575
16:26 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.6.0 [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JtBAV
16:27 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 8f70fa1 - Encyclopedia update: round two (objects and miscellaneous).
16:28 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:71322
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16:30 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:71364
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16:33 <K2> new encyclopedia entries are live
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16:36 <mobileuser> oh you did them for 0.6 first?
16:37 <K2> yeah
16:37 <mobileuser> do you want to push updates?
16:37 <K2> already did
16:37 <VaderFLAG> I have to admit I have never used to encyclopedia until now
16:37 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8838
16:38 <mobileuser> let's see! :-)
16:38 <K2> you'll need to save/reload to see changes
16:38 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 8860 points, T:8852, killed by a werewolf
16:38 <K2> but this wasnt a critial omg save your game now so i can patch type of update
16:38 <K2> *critical
16:38 <K2> VaderFLAG i never used the encyclopedia either
16:39 <mobileuser> Hahaha Dirge
16:39 <mobileuser> ... DIRGE \o/
16:39 <K2> :)
16:39 <K2> do magic 8-ball
16:40 <K2> and carl :)
16:40 <mobileuser> lol
16:42 <mobileuser> "It is about time!"  The djinni vanishes. F F F
16:42 <mobileuser> sigh
16:45 -!- arahael2 is now known as arahael
16:46 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JtBxM
16:46 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 9729493 - Encyclopedia update: round one (monsters).
16:46 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 f77a1aa - Encyclopedia update: round two (objects and miscellaneous).
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16:54 <K2> so finally
16:54 <K2> encyclopedia, caught up :)
16:54 <K2> now i can focus back on other bits
16:55 <mobileuser> noice
16:59 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Set, on T:12177
17:03 <Umbire> Good job
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17:21 <hothraxxa> k2: can you look at my game?
17:21 <hothraxxa> │rn2(0) attempted
17:22 <hothraxxa> Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 
17:22 <hothraxxa> went downstairs wearing a blinfold. first time on this level
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17:25 <aosdict> blindfold probably isn't relevant, it's probably a mklev thing
17:25 <bhaak> rn2(0) is in general pretty harmless
17:26 <hothraxxa> still waiting but i'll have to save and reload soon
17:26 <aosdict> saving and reloading probably won't do anything and you can continue playing
17:27 <hothraxxa> yes, that's usually the case with that sort of message. do you think i should go up and come down again first? i was waiting for k2 to call that
17:29 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3356 points, T:5806, killed by a giant cockroach
17:30 <bhaak> no, the level is already generated so it will not do it again. if you save and reload, there should be save file backup, so K2 could look at that later
17:30 <aosdict> take note of any special rooms, themed rooms, other unusual stuff on the level, it could be in the code for one of those
17:30 <hothraxxa> ok thanks
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17:39 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15027
17:42 <arahael> What does it generally mean, though?
17:44 <amateurhour> means a function, rn2, was called with argument 0
17:45 <arahael> Ah, interesting.
17:46 <bhaak> rn2(x) gives you a random number from 0 to x-1
17:46 <bhaak> if you call with 0, it's suspicious as that means, you could only get 0 back. not very random.
17:47 <arahael> Right.
17:48 <bhaak> in such a case, it returns 0 but outputs the same message as if something truly impossible happened.
17:50 <bhaak> vanilla has no error message distinguising between "you're game state is corrupted, try saving and reload to possibly fix it" and "something unexpected happened but no harm has been done"
17:50 <aosdict> bhaak: rn2(0) is never correct behavior, more than just being suspicious
17:50 <aosdict> it should be giving you 0 <= x <= -1 which is impossible
17:51 <aosdict> so it falls back and says "well 0 is usually a safe return from rn2, so here have that"
17:53 <bhaak> rn2(0) satisfies one condition "0 <= x" but doesn't satisfy the other "x <= -1"
17:55 <bhaak> so 0 is always a valid return value.
17:56 <amateurhour> just call it undefined behaviour and give yourself license to do whatever you like when rn2(0) is called
17:57 <bhaak> it's not the 80s anymore. undefined behavior is not only frowned upon but condemned
17:57 <aosdict> rn2(0) attempted, returning 0  Program in disorder!  The Wizard of Yendor appears!
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18:02 <hothraxxa> i got level teleported up to dlvl 1 before i could finish exploring the level so not sure if there was a themed room or anything else suspicious
18:07 <hothraxxa> so there was nothing
18:11 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:14078
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18:48 <K2> from the panic log - 1612050190 hothraxxa: impossible rn2(0) attempted
18:48 <K2> hothraxxa did it appear to just be a regular level?
18:55 <K2> same panic happened to tinklebear several days ago
18:55 <K2> wish it were more verbose
18:58 <bhaak> make the game coredump on it :)
18:59 <bhaak> hothraxxa saved, so you should see what level he was on
18:59 <K2> i may have found it
18:59 <K2> bhaak look here - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/mklev.c#L300
18:59 <K2> rndvault_getname()
19:02 <K2> that whole block of code looks... off
19:02 <bhaak> but that's the main function for getting themed rooms
19:02 <K2> lines 300 and 301 should be up sooner
19:03 <bhaak> to get 0 for curr_total_freq, you would need to have no themed rooms that fit
19:03 <bhaak> seems correct to me
19:03 <K2> hmm
19:03 <K2> but still still sets up a rn2(0) condition yeah?
19:03 <K2> potentially sets up
19:04 <bhaak> it collects and sums the frequencies of all themed rooms
19:04 <bhaak> there should at least be the vanilla, rectangular room that fits, so I would have said no, there shouldn't ever be a curr_total_freq of 0
19:04 <K2> hmm
19:06 <K2> funny i've never seen this while fuzzing
19:08 <bhaak> possibly a level the fuzzer hardly visits?
19:08 <K2> perhaps
19:08 <bhaak> so something deep?
19:08 <K2> maybe aphrodite level
19:09 <K2> no wait thats set entirely
19:09 <K2> the entire level
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19:19 <K2> hmm it happened when he went down to dlvl 6
19:19 <K2> not oracle
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19:23 <K2> only monsters on that level were a brown d (prob a jackal) and a dwarf
19:23 <K2> so it wasnt anything special
19:28 <bhaak> have you added any themed rooms?
19:29 <aosdict> we should still call them "random vaults" until K2 merges 3.7
19:29 <K2> bhaak not in a long time
19:30 <K2> october 2019 was the last time an actual vault/room was added
19:30 <K2> there have been tweaks since then but the number of rooms hasnt changed since the oct 2019 commit
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19:44 <bhaak> #q
20:03 <qt> uh oh, arahael and nabru double bones
20:03 <qt> and bouquet
20:03 <qt> jeez
20:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9307
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20:08 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Novice, on T:9326
20:11 <arahael> qt: Lots of gnomes with wands, was it?
20:12 <qt> I think the latest person to get killed was nabru, your grave was in an empty room but nabru was surrounded by monsters
20:12 <qt> it says Arahael-Wiz-Ith-Fem-Cha, killed by a rothe
20:13 <qt> this game has had a wide variety of different people's bones: nabru, hothraxxa, arahael, coplate, bouquet
20:13 <qt> no repeats yet either
20:14 <arahael> qt: Ah.  Well, my Ilithids are *very* weak in the early game.  A sneeze and they're dead. 
20:19 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9593
20:26 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:17297
21:13 <Tangles> K2: The !streak lag is probably because it queries all 3 bot instances and waits for a response.  If one of the other instances is broken, it will not respond and the bot will timeout before replying on the channel.
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21:17 <Tangles> I really think we'd be better off using Beholder to push announcements to a simplified EvilBot (using the mechanism that already exists for slex, and others), rather than maintaining a separate fork of a more complicated bot, and running three separate instances of both bots across all the servers.
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21:22 <arahael> Yes, I think having just the one IRC bot makes sense, and the other servers can collaborate via a different, far simpler mechanism.
21:22 <arahael> What does slex do?
21:26 <Tangles> There's a bot in #em.slashem.me that announces slex games played on hardfought.
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21:27 <Tangles> It does this by getting Beholder to push the announcements to it (just via private IRC message, which tbf is how the 3 Beholder instances communicate as well)
21:29 <Tangles> There's a 'forwards' dict in the beholder code that takes care of it.
21:35 <K2> prob a good idea
21:36 <K2> none of the instances are broken, just checked
21:36 <K2> !streak k2
21:36 <EvilBot> K2: [hdf-us] k2 Max[evil]: 2 (2020-01-13 - 2020-01-27).
21:36 <K2> much faster than last time
21:36 <K2> maybe it was network/interwebz lag?
21:41 <arahael> Tangles: Ah, nice.  I think using IRC for that messaging is a bit clunky, but given these bots are already using IRC, it's not /that/ bad, I guess.
21:41 <arahael> Certainly reduces a depedency, which is always good.
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23:00 <Tangles> If I get time tonight I'll have a look at the logs and see if I can figure out why the lastgame dumplogs, !whereis,  and other bits & pieces are not working. I expect there will be a whole pile of stacktraces in there which should shed a bit of light on it.
23:00 <Tangles> It'll all be typeError stuff because of the way python3 handles type conversions (or doesn't)
23:02 <arahael> Tangles: The main difference is that python2 allowed *implicit* conversions, and python3 is more strict.  Also some maths is different, eg, division vs floor.
23:02 <arahael> (At this point, anyway)
23:03 <arahael> Eg, 2/3 will give different results in python2 vs python3.
23:05 <arahael> And yeah, the strings handling.  Defaults to unicode, and does *not* automatically convert implicitly.
23:13 <Tangles> Yeah all the stuff you take for granted, and can't really tell is going to break just by looking at it (well I can't anyway)
23:17 <arahael> Yeah.  I think python was what led me to become a TDD fanatic. :(
23:17 <arahael> And now I prefer static typed languages.
23:19 <arahael> Eventually you loose the patience to find and discover things in production, and you want to move to build time, as much as possible.
23:22 <EvilBot> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:21420
23:31 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JtRZh
23:31 <Not-7024> [EvilHack] k21971 f1ac64c - Fix: The black dragon eats a black dragon corpse. The black dragon looks very firm.
23:37 <Umbire> Why does the BLACK dragon have to be the cannibal, huh?