00:01 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1108 points, T:1378, killed by a golden naga hatchling 00:02 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3 points, T:34, killed by a sewer rat 00:29 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 00:31 Morning world 00:31 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1711 points, T:2132, killed by a plains centaur 00:31 over here it's midnight 00:34 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 216 points, T:242, killed by a large kobold 00:39 well in my variant i've added melee-range breath attacks 00:47 [04hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Clk Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:57086 00:49 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:07 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:19 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17798 01:21 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 352 points, T:710, killed by a dwarf 01:24 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 241 points, T:535, killed by a boulder 01:25 [04hdf-us] [10fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the valkyrie of NCommander, the former Stripling, on T:16993 01:30 rip 01:44 [04hdf-us] [10fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "+2 blessed fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:17876 01:45 Damn 01:45 Wish preferences weren't respected 01:45 +0? 01:46 yeah 01:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:46 Luck must have timed out 01:46 1/3 chance of failing anyway 01:46 unless it's different in FIQhac 01:46 I got the catacombs mine's end, so I decided to burn the wish from the lamp for GDSM due to the LOTS of poly trap 01:46 hack 01:46 well, 55% of one 01:46 ~~wish for poly control instead~~ 01:46 StatueSurfer, I want GDSM anyway 01:46 that was a joke 01:47 I had utter crap for armor, I was AC:2 without protection 01:47 although tbh i have never ID'd a ring of poly control unless i had it in my starting inventory as a wizard 01:47 Generally I chuck any spares of rings I have down the nearest sink and they're a priority to identify for me 01:50 alright the nurses got me over 200 hp 01:50 i feel comfortable enough for my ascension run 01:58 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 01:58 nuts 01:58 No polytrap 02:03 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3553 02:04 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:04 * NCommander did tame a Y 02:04 Meh 02:17 hmmm 02:17 there's a silver dragon in the top level of wizard's tower 02:18 as long as no spellcasters show up there, i guess it should be safe to try to kill for its scales 02:26 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:40 well 02:41 THAT's an interesting feature 02:58 ... slagging hs 03:01 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 23593 points, T:8500, killed by a rock troll 03:15 hi 03:15 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 03:15 FIQ: Message from rikersan at 2017-12-19 20:55 EST: plural bug w/ "picks up a few equipment", and segfault when you try to #adjust 2 lizard corpses together (diff ages) 03:15 FIQ: Message from rikersan at 2017-12-19 20:59 EST: "the green elf walk very quietly" that's not how to english good 03:15 FIQ: Message from rikersan at 2017-12-19 21:01 EST: actually the adjust bug is happening more, looks like it's when things don't autoadjust on pickup with identified items (had it happen with a mirror) 03:23 !tell rikersan can't reproduce grammar issues 03:23 Will do, FIQ! 03:28 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 03:39 !tell K2 adjust did have issues but I didn't manage to segfault it, pushed fixes anyway 03:39 Will do, FIQ! 03:54 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 03:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:11 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:12 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:14 morning 04:14 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-20 06:39 EST: adjust did have issues but I didn't manage to segfault it, pushed fixes anyway 04:15 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 04:16 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:21461 04:41 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:42 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 04:43 [04hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33537 04:44 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1802 points, T:3899, killed by a bolt of cold 04:46 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 04:47 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 159 points, T:974, killed by a brown mold 04:58 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:23313 05:00 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:23313 05:03 Found Dr Worm again on lv22 05:03 Oh I see K2 finally got a gh gnome going :) 05:06 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 5402 points, T:6810, killed by a vampire bat 05:07 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 924 points, T:1786, killed by a rothe 05:21 oh god 05:21 that's a LOT of c 05:21 44 cockatrice 05:21 O_O; 05:25 damn it 05:26 That's like four games in a row in which I made it to medusa 05:26 and no fort 05:27 FIQ, patch idea, fort access, maybe make the portal a bit more likely to show up or have a backdoor 05:30 NCommander: or just do whatever unnethack and some variants did and just guarantee the portal will be generated (I don't know exactly what they did, maybe the portal goes in a closet if there are no suitable vaults) 05:31 Or, actually, I think the portal generates on the first vault below dungeon level 10, which makes it a vanishingly low chance that there will be no Ludios at all. 05:31 (I think there's still some guarantee though?) 05:39 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 500 points, T:950, killed by a gnome lord 05:41 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 65 points, T:304, killed by a jackal 05:41 aosdict, yeah that was how I though. Not having the fort at all is OK in the rare game, but this is annoying. I cleaned out five vaults from 10->down 05:41 So at least I got enough gold for 90% of the divine protection I need 05:42 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 61 points, T:255, killed by a sewer rat 05:43 aosdict: they don't gurantee it 05:43 aosdict, I'm going to retrieve Medusa's shield of reflection, get some more divine protection, and then think about the quest 05:43 but makes it much more likely 05:43 by placing it on the first vault below Oracle 05:44 Well the biggest draw of the fort for me is its a decent place to find dragons, plus the gold is an added bonus 05:44 esp if you end up uberleveled before you get to Minetown 05:45 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 05:45 in fiqhack, fort ludios is also a great source of magical armor 05:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:45 as in, with properties 05:49 !tell K2 pushed an update that makes knox generate much more likely 05:49 Will do, FIQ! 05:50 yay 05:50 FIQ: it's the first vault below Oracle? So it could be as high as level 6? 05:50 below dlvl10 05:51 Well when I do something idiotic and loose the game 05:51 I'll be happy to check out the fort 05:51 :) 05:55 I'm also debating if I'm going to sac more crap to the god 05:55 And see if he'll spit out identity or magic mapping 05:56 Or charging 05:56 Charging would be nice 06:24 FIQ: is there any documentation of what you have done for trinsics rewrite internals-wise? 06:24 Or should I go searching through commits? 06:26 aosdict: all of it is in prop.c 06:28 thanks 06:30 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:36 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:26304 06:37 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26306 06:41 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 06:44 !tell K2 I think I need puck1's EU save 06:44 Will do, FIQ! 06:53 aosdict: http://sprunge.us/YVWF here is a list of functions the code in general needs to know about (e.g. not just helpers the property rework itself) 06:53 *i.e. 06:53 *helpers for 07:01 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1164 points, T:2839, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 07:13 FIQ: thanks. still not sure if I want to do a 3.6 trinsics refactor at this point, the chance I'm going to mess something up is astronomical 07:15 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:15 FIQ: so in fiqhack, equipment extrinsics are calculated on-the-fly from worn items and not by storing them redundantly in struct prop like vanilla does? 07:16 At least, that seems like the logical way I'd want to do it. 07:16 aosdict: correct 07:16 @ calculated on the fly 07:16 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8691 07:17 correct, the chance I'm going to mess up *is* astronomical :P 07:18 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 622 points, T:2007, killed by a rothe 07:30 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 07:35 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] jannis (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5733 points, T:10634, poisoned by an orcish arrow 07:38 FIQ: I wonder why all the vanilla wornmasks are defined in prop.h and then used much more for non-property stuff. 07:42 do not question the devteam's methods 07:42 but yeah i Dunno 07:42 *I dunno 07:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:47 -!- hothraxxa has quit [*.net *.split] 08:02 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by livingstone.freenode.net 08:12 FIQ: feeling like a proper trinsics rewrite would first do the objslot rewrite. was that you, or was it nethack4? 08:15 aosdict: NH4 eliminated the variables for your equipped gear (uwep and such) and made them macros that call a function that goes through your inventory and finds the thing that's equipped in that slot. This eliminates a lot of potential bugs (all the ones where the variables got out of sync with reality when something forgot to update them). 08:16 Is that what you mean by objslot rewrite? 08:18 aosdict: nethack4 08:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:42 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44 NH4 was a pretty massive refactor of NH343 08:44 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:44 I was slightly surprised that the devteam didn't rebase on NH4 and instead we got 36. Though TBH, I don't think anyone was really expecting 36 08:46 aosdict: the NH3 trinsic system is mostly serviceable enough unless you want to give monsters full-blown trinsics 08:46 that is why I rewrote it in first place 08:46 I mean, that is the eventual goal. 08:47 But a good starting point is eliminating uprops.extrinsic since it's storing redundant information. 08:47 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:47 <[Demo]> monsters dont have the same rights as the player and therefore its immoral to even think of giving them symmetric systems 08:49 [Demo]: then again it's quite nice to not be turned to stone from a distance, or forced to vomit 08:49 rikersan: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-20 06:23 EST: can't reproduce grammar issues 08:49 !tell FIQ what about the crash when adjusting things that don't stack into a pile? 08:49 Will do, rikersan! 08:50 I didn't actually manage to crash that 08:50 FIQ: Message from rikersan at 2017-12-20 11:49 EST: what about the crash when adjusting things that don't stack into a pile? 08:50 but there were issues 08:50 that I pushed fixes to 08:50 basically if you adjusted a stack of 1 into itself 08:50 with nothing mergeable 08:50 it would error 08:50 but not *crash* 08:50 mind you, lizards may or may not be mergable 08:50 female and male lizard corpses don't stack anymore 08:51 FIQ: no, it crashed. >_> I got the "leave or recover save file?" thing 08:51 (they used to, when there was no such distintion) 08:51 ah 08:51 might have been that 08:51 when you said crash 08:51 it definitely crashed though 08:51 I thought you mean like a segfault 08:51 that threw you back to dgl 08:51 OK so we're on even ground then 08:51 but yeah 08:51 lol 08:51 I fixed that 08:51 ok cool 08:51 rikersan: well the error dialog isn't a crash :) 08:52 might be worth putting a (m) or (f) after corpses then 08:52 ones taht don't have the gender in the name, i.e. dwarf lady 08:52 hmm 08:52 that is a fair point 08:52 should probably do that 08:52 <[Demo]> nice 08:53 <[Demo]> do monsters have a nutrition system? 08:54 pets do 08:54 same as vanilla 08:56 [04hdf-us] [13dnh] Ssach (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 612 points, T:1943, killed by Ms. Wonotobo, the shopkeeper, while fainted from lack of food 09:01 [Demo]: now I'm imagining a sokoban standoff 09:01 the monster is on the other side of the boulder 09:01 you just have to wait until it starves so you can push it 09:02 [04hdf-us] [114k] Jermaij (Ssach) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4176 points, T:1818, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 09:18 [04hdf-us] [114k] Jeos (Ssach) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4056 points, T:710, killed by a gnome 09:29 -!- rikersan_ has joined #hardfought 09:29 -!- askhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:37 -!- rikersan_ is now known as rikersan 09:47 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 09:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 09:48 -!- rikersan_ has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52 FIQ: in vanilla, is trinsic blocking only implemented for mummy wrapping/invis and cornuthaum/clairvoyance? Maybe Grayswandir/hallucination as well? 09:55 aosdict: correct 09:56 FIQHack is mostly the same in that regard, except that it also implements the capability of permonsts blocking trinsics 09:56 well, NH4 and thus FIQHack implement trinsic blocking for absolutely everything, but for most trinsics there's no actual way to block them 09:57 so the code is there but unused 09:57 yeah 09:57 (it was easier to expand it to work in a general way than adding a bunch of special cases would have been) 09:58 I meant, I expanded it so that other things could also block 09:58 apart from what vanilla already does 09:59 but the internal logic already allows arbitrary blocking, even in nethack4 10:00 (where the trinsic rewrite is unfinished) 10:01 so my goal is to add better trinsic support because I really dislike working with the current system, and I'm not sure how much of NH4's system I want to adapt. Maybe all of it. 10:02 I'm all for generalizing and making it so you don't have to do bit manipulations and worrying about masks. 10:03 what nethack4 did was refactor how slots were managed and how trinsics are queried into a single function 10:03 what is unfinished is the whole setting/clearing/refreshing/etc 10:04 which FIQHack finished 10:04 (NH4 works like NH3 in that regard, mostly) 10:05 except you don't have to fiddle with bitmasks more than FROMOUTSIDE, but still have to ensure to handle stuff like invisiblity messages, levitation set/clear, and so on 10:05 Mhm. I'm leaning towards just grabbing code out of FIQHack and then smoothing out the parts that don't work to fit with NH3. 10:05 mhm 10:06 my biggest gripe with the rewrite is update_property 10:07 it is a pretty large function and rather awkward in places 10:07 other than that I think the rewrite turned out largely well 10:08 aosdict: Are you going to make it iterate over the player's inventory whenever it wants to know what extrinsics the player has, like NH4 does? 10:09 that will not work well with travel 10:09 actually it will work fine 10:09 if you use FIQHack rather than NetHack4 code there 10:09 since fiqhack caches trinsics 10:10 Actually, wait, I was thinking more of attribute gain/loss than trinsics, actually. 10:10 -!- rikersan_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:10 Things like the bug where a nymph steals your helm of brilliance while you're equipping it. 10:10 jonadab: only fiqhack recalculates that on demand 10:10 Ah. 10:10 nethack4 left that largely unchanged 10:10 Hmm. 10:10 except that it runs a recalculation once per turn 10:10 Ah. 10:11 Well, once per turn is better than the dead reckoning 3.x does. 10:11 yeah, no more hobug 10:11 for more than a turn, anyway P: 10:11 *:P 10:11 jonadab: presumably if you want to know whether the player has a certain intrinsic, you iterate specifically for that one, but yes. 10:11 I started a rewrite of things like attributes, but abandoned it because it was way too ambitious 10:12 I've considered caching attributes too 10:12 but it doesn't really work that well 10:12 in comparision to trinsics 10:12 because a lot of things can modify attributes "unexpectedly" 10:12 I'm pretty sure storing redundant information like uprops[].extrinsic is some sort of anti-pattern...? 10:13 so unless you're changing the whole codebase into using a getter/setter approach 10:13 I think it might be a bad idea 10:14 probably what you want to do before considering caching attributes 10:14 is setspe/incspe/decspe, and refresh_attrib 10:15 aosdict: it's known as "denormalization", it's sometimes done intentionally for performance reasons (including, most likely, in vanilla NetHack) 10:16 but it often leads to problems when the two copies get out of sync 10:17 ais523: I mean, fiqhack is no better in that regard, mintrinisc_cache is basically uprops.extrinsic 10:17 just that it is slightly less error-prone since it's cleared each save/restore cycle 10:18 also I should add it for monsters too 10:18 the only reason I didn't was const 10:18 with a name starting in m I'd expect it to be used for monsters! 10:18 *starting with 10:18 ais523: that was the idea :P 10:19 just I ran into const problems 10:19 and decided to hold off and just do it for players since that's where it was needed the most 10:19 I mean, it's part of monst 10:19 and relevant functions doesn't care about whether it's the player or monster, it checks it anyway 10:19 just that the actual setting is only done on players 10:20 because making it also set on monsters would involve me removing a ton of consts 10:20 that had a chain-reaction 10:21 ais523: btw, I think the way I do it is kind of violating the purpose of const, even for players 10:22 I basically abuse youmonst 10:31 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 10:32 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:46 ais523: I imagine that the performance saved by not iterating over the hero's or a monster's inventory is minimal though 10:47 though it may well have been back when this was implemented 10:47 *have been significant 10:47 aosdict: it turns out that if you do it fresh for every square of the map during travel calculations, it's noticeable 10:47 although strangely, not /that/ noticeable 10:47 that was easily fixed though 10:49 why would you need to check properties while the hero is traveling? checking for water walking or something? 10:51 ais523: but not complete 10:52 ly 10:52 there is still something being polled a lot during travel 10:52 since my cache thing greatly sped up travel 10:52 never tracked down what though 11:03 aosdict: right, water walking and friends 11:04 and phasing 11:04 flight/levitation 11:04 etc 11:11 huh 11:11 Castle directly below medusa 11:11 Never seen that before 11:12 Really, I see it all the time 11:13 often I expect it, but there can a few levels in between 11:14 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:14 what would be weird is seeing Castle above Medusa 11:18 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:18 -!- K2-work has joined #hardfought 11:18 -!- K2-work is now known as K2 11:18 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:18 -!- K2_ has joined #hardfought 11:24 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 11:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper_] by ChanServ 11:24 -!- K2-work has joined #hardfought 11:25 * K2-work sighs 11:26 K2-workinghardandhardlyworking? 11:27 yes 11:27 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:27 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:27 since yesterday, cant connect to znc from here 11:27 dbl checked firewall, it sees the attempts, and allows them 11:28 and i can access znc web panel (same ip and port) no prob 11:28 this makes me sad 11:28 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:42 Really? 11:43 I get granted trollsbane as an artifact 11:43 :/ 11:43 -!- rikersan_ has joined #hardfought 11:44 -!- rikersan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:46 !role dnh 11:46 rikersan: anachrononaut 11:46 !race dnh 11:46 rikersan: yuki-onna 11:46 !race dnh 11:46 rikersan: half-dragon 11:46 !race dnh 11:46 rikersan: clockwork automaton 11:46 !race dnh 11:46 rikersan: incantifier 11:47 [04hdf-us] [07nd] Qwesti (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4192 points, T:3758, killed by a priest of Shan Lai Ching 11:48 -!- rikersan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:10 [04hdf-us] [13dnh] rikerw (Ana Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3072 12:10 mite of holiness retrieved 12:10 yay 12:11 grats 12:12 FIQ: what's up with fiqhack livelogs? 12:13 ? 12:15 ... 12:15 * NCommander just got werebane via sac 12:15 That's actually ... useful 12:15 Cause saber got unrestricted 12:20 YASI: make trollsbane a chaotic artifact, make the god snicker while gifting you it 12:20 same with Ogresmasher 12:24 FIQ: you should incorporate the livelogs Tangles made for vanilla dev 12:24 !8ball should FIQ do as suggested? 12:24 K2-work: Outlook good 12:24 booyah 12:24 * FIQ zaps Beholder with a wand of fire 12:24 K2-work: also K2 has pending tells 12:24 ok 12:25 i suspect znc is only allowing one connection at a time, but i never set that 12:25 -!- rikersan_ has joined #hardfought 12:25 uh that shouldn't be the case 12:25 no it shouldnt 12:25 firewall here isnt blocking it 12:25 firewall at home allows it 12:26 i'll get it sorted out 12:28 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:32 Dr Worm as eaten many mind flayer, but still seems as dumb as ever 12:32 as/has 12:32 though he might be getting cuter 12:33 lv39 so far 12:33 !whereis grasshopper 12:33 rikersan_: [04hdf-us] Grasshopper [07nd]: No details available 12:34 Dlvl:47, not far from the VS level 12:34 what role? barb? 12:35 or knight 12:35 in fact, that is where I'm going next 12:35 Barbie! 12:35 lol 12:35 you can change my clothes and everything 12:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 12:37 * aosdict wonders if anyone has ever named their character Barbara and played Barbarian 12:38 !whereis rikersan 12:38 rikersan_: [04hdf-us] rikersan [10fh]: (Bar Orc Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 12:38 :/ doesn't have my name 12:38 that is the bot's fault 12:39 really cold here now 12:39 I wanna put a barbie on the barbie 12:39 just checked 12:39 it's the bot 12:39 the whereis file has the info 12:39 Grasshopper_: you can fry it on the concrete here 12:40 !who 12:40 FIQ: [04hdf-us] NCommander [10fh] Grasshopper [07nd] krm26 [08un] Ssach [114k] 12:40 FIQ: [12hdf-eu] puck [10fh] Raisse [07nd] firemonkey [07nd] 12:40 !whereis krm26 12:40 FIQ: [04hdf-us] krm26 [10fh]: (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) T:716 The Gnomish Mines level: 4 12:40 FIQ: [04hdf-us] krm26 [08un]: (Wizard human Fem chaotic) T:21834 The Quest level: 14 12:40 so... cold... 12:40 bhaak: nice and consistent 12:40 for Thailand, so cold 12:40 you live in Thailand? 12:40 apparently I am going there next month with family 12:40 don't you live in the netherlands FIQ? 12:40 yes, I'm in Thailand 12:41 rikersan_: no, I live in Sweden 12:41 ah ok 12:41 apologies, northern european education is not big here in the US 12:41 but not at the beach - we live up in the north-east, specifically next to the Mekong 12:41 ah 12:41 and in winter cold fog travels down the river valley from the mountains 12:41 don't think I've ever seen fog in real life 12:41 and right now (about 3-4am) it is peaking 12:41 just in pictures 12:42 rikersan_, you southern hemisphere? 12:42 rikersan_: where do you live that doesn't get fog? the desert? 12:42 Grasshopper_: nah just the southwest US 12:42 aosdict: pretty much 12:42 I thought you'd be going into winter now 12:42 south CA, just above mexico 12:42 Grasshopper_: isn't that at like 5 degrees latitude? 12:42 oh, guess it is almost always hot then 12:42 we are in winter so it's not no longer 115F 12:42 [04hdf-us] [114k] Dig (Ssach) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 13656 points, T:4720, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted iron golem 12:43 I guess when you say it's cold, what temperature are we talking here 12:43 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] firemonkey (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:18625 12:43 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 12:43 that's like 52C iirc 12:43 aosdict, I need a thermometer 12:43 rikersan_: the one who lives in the netherlands is raisse, I believe 12:43 wish I'd gotten one at the hardware store today 12:43 or yesterday... 12:43 didn't konw that aosdict 12:43 I just knew FIQ was 1 of sweden, netherlands, switzerland, or norway 12:43 I'd say we are talking low single digits (Celcius) 12:43 idk why but I did 12:44 FIQ, which part of Thailand are you going to? 12:44 Grasshopper_: does it ever actually freeze where you live 12:45 don't know 12:45 I wasn't the one who booked the flight/etc :p 12:45 aosdict, never seen frost here 12:45 and don't really care atm 12:45 4C here 12:45 atm 12:45 so long as it is warmer and sunnier than Sweden? 12:45 Grasshopper_: oh it most definitely will be 12:45 FIQ: how much daylight are you getting tomorrow? 12:46 aosdict: not much, but I live near Stockholm so it's in the south 12:46 we get more than certain other places of Sweden :P 12:46 I think the sun goes up around 7? 12:46 ah 12:46 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] firemonkey (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:18650 12:46 Sweden/Stockholm is beautiful, at least in the summer (when I've been there) 12:46 apparently, "formally", it goes up at 8:42 12:46 tomorrow 12:46 at here 12:47 solariums are really a thing there 12:47 (they are like illegal in Australia now I think, but I can see the need in Sweden) 12:47 I think tomorrow is the darkest day overall? 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