00:01 nalzok gets healing, protection, speed monster and phase 00:02 what does he need phase for 00:02 did you change covetous behavior 00:02 I didn't change covetous behaviour 00:03 phase is useful for dealing with boulder forts 00:03 oh 00:03 actually I did change covetous behaviour 00:03 because it was kinda broken in nethack4 00:04 but all I did was trying to revert it to how it works in vanilla 00:12 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 2782 points, T:3670, killed by a Green-elf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:14 kek 00:14 looks like a lieutenant stepped on a poly trap in Gehennom 00:14 and became a blue jelly 00:27 [04hdf-us] [10fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:4978 00:28 ... 00:28 well 00:28 Sokoban Wand of Wishing ... 00:28 I'll take it 00:29 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 815 points, T:2073, killed by a dog 00:30 NCommander: remember what happened the last time you got early /oW 00:30 there be some dragons down below 00:31 FIQ, considering how my last priest went ... yeah 00:31 ugh 00:31 I can't decide if I suck at NH, or FIQHack tweaked the balance JUST enough to keep me off my game 00:31 fiqhack earlygame is easier 00:32 latergame is harder 00:32 I've noticed 00:34 FIQ, RNG has been .. unusually kind. It's coughed up a crystal plate mail on Dl:2 and a +3 ring of protection in a shop 00:34 nice 00:34 FIQ, I do very much appreciate the mid/endgame is not a cakewalk. Usually once I get past the castle, stupidity is the only reason to YASD 00:35 the RNG is out to get you 00:35 it just wants to make you complacant 00:36 I see that you intend to die with a wand of wishing in inventory 00:36 almost, at least 00:36 and in sokoban, so not even bones 00:36 you can use ctrl+e btw 00:40 [04hdf-us] [10fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:5799 00:40 !setmintc 00:45 FIQ, right now, I'm trying to figure out how to remove this spotted jelly 00:45 [12hdf-eu] [12slex] Tangles (Sai Mai Mal Cha), 28 points, T:65, killed by a monster (cat mummy) 00:46 * NCommander is semi-debating burning a wish for spellbook of magic missle *or* spellbook of protection 00:46 you could find some rocks 00:46 ... and the obvious solution presents itself 00:46 ? 00:47 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 1243 points, T:3053, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:47 I see a wand of fire 00:47 you could use that 00:48 FIQ, I hate using those offensively due to being able to permaburn Elbereth 00:48 I'm also unsure it has enough charges to do the job 00:49 well monsters generate HP faster in fiqhack 00:51 FIQ, yeah ...hit and run isn't going to work 00:51 I'm probably better figuring out how to go down and come back 00:56 just don't die 00:56 dying with a wand of wishing would be too bad 00:59 FIQ, yeah ... and there's a random helm of brillance 00:59 * NCommander blinks 00:59 heh 01:00 NCommander: NeroOneTrueKing found like 5 wands of wishing in his fiqhack game a while back 01:00 He didn't ascend 01:00 I see that you also had a helm of telepathy 01:00 not bad 01:03 FIQ, yeah. A little pointless when you're a priest due to the quest artifact, but it's nice for now. I just discovered genocide so I might try sending in some dragons. I have a scroll of scare monster, and just need to carve out the right room. 01:03 dragonbreath 01:03 uh 01:03 yeah 01:04 dragons can flee then proceed to obliterate you 01:04 FIQHack dragons can breathe in melee range 01:04 and a lot more effectively considering this is FIQhack 01:04 StatueSurfer, you dig out a 3x3 room behind a closet and use conflict. 01:04 that's how I did it shortly before I splatted 01:04 ... luckstone 01:05 hmm that works? 01:05 how? 01:05 FIQ, they used their breath weapons on each other and ignored me. 01:05 fiqhack dragons should be able t ohandle that 01:05 I was able to pick off the stragler. 01:05 FIQ, it worked fine. 01:05 why are they breathing each other in conflict 01:05 oh I know why 01:05 because melee range 01:06 NCommander: but with that said 01:06 dragonbreath can explode 01:06 be careful 01:06 what dragons are you sending in specifically 01:08 frig 01:08 * NCommander JUST found a spellbook of identify 01:08 *sigh* 01:08 I don't regret the wish 01:08 but I'm slightly annoyed 01:09 you found it in dlvl2? 01:13 FIQ, locked chest that I bypassed before due to no key. 01:13 !tell K2 pushed a minor fix 01:13 Will do, FIQ! 01:13 NCommander: ah 01:13 FIQ, I'm really afraid to what the RNG will do 01:13 * NCommander just found ANOTHER two good items 01:14 BoH and Gaunlets of Dexerity ... 01:14 I had a game like that once 01:14 no early wand of wishing 01:14 but I basically got my entire ascension kit by dlvl10 01:14 apart from DSM 01:15 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29 -!- hpardis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll called ghoti 300 on an altar, on T:3027 01:32 NCommander: when you polymorph yourself into an arch-lich, do you get spells? 01:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:39 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 01:40 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 01:44 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 1634 points, T:3707, killed by a gray unicorn 01:52 FIQ, I haven't tried. 01:53 FIQ, the mines spawned a polytrap which in turn made a bunch of liches ... which was where brave sir robin bravely ran away 01:53 NCommander: you don't gain spells by polyselfing 01:53 so why should monsters gain spells by polymorphing? 01:53 :p 01:56 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 01:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:02 FIQ, I though the draining attack was an attack, not a spell. 02:02 what draining attack? 02:02 I though lichs could level drain 02:02 or has my brain said goodbye 02:03 oh yay, "oR. Always a bit sad when you get multiple BoH :( 02:14 Izchak the silver dragon on a candle on the floor of a room. 02:14 I ... 02:14 how did THAT happen 02:15 Interestingly, he still counts as a shopkeeper 02:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:37 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 2455 points, T:3645, killed by a dwarf king 02:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:54 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 3795 points, T:2893, killed by a small mimic 02:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3690 points, T:4597, killed by a jaguar 03:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:14 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 403 points, T:1153, killed by a kitten 03:25 [04hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1501 points, T:1713, killed by a giant ant 03:33 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 03:40 * NCommander blehs 03:41 NCommander: liches can do none of those things 03:41 liches are dangerous because of their spells 03:41 besides that, all they have is a touch cold attack 03:41 so a lich without spells is basically harmless 03:42 fair enough 03:42 I'm currently just figuring out what my next moves are and if I want to head down to mine's end. I already have a luckstone 03:53 :/ 03:53 polymorphing my pet got me a lich ... with no spells 03:53 FIQ, I assume they don't get new spells if they grow up? 03:53 no 03:53 but you can give them books 03:53 to read 03:53 so you can customize spells that way 03:54 making them arguably the strongest pet in the game if handled properly 03:54 besides Archons 03:55 having a arch-lich pet zapping everything with sleep, magic missile, hasting itself and you, etc 03:55 is nice 03:55 NCommander: ^ 03:56 ... didn't know that would work 03:56 I've yet to find a single attack spell though 03:56 Frig, he probably detamed by now 03:58 of course, you are playing a priest 03:58 so you're choosing between giving it spells 03:58 and giving you them 03:58 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01 NCommander: also, a pet master or arch-lich will covetous-warp for *your* benefit 04:01 harassing hostile monsters, etc 04:01 FIQ, yeah, I'm keeping him around for now seeing if he'll grow up. I've got a LOT of duplicate spellbooks but they're all types that won't help 04:02 and then warp back to you once he's content 04:02 ahh 04:02 what kind of books? 04:02 detect monsters is useful for it 04:02 clerical mostly, but not that one 04:02 protection too, of course, if you can stand the message spam 04:02 allthough that shouldn't be as bad now 04:02 since it will maintain protection 04:02 I'll likely wish for a WoP and a magic marker and polypile the books to get ones I *do* want, or write them after I've learned them. 04:02 meaning less spam 04:03 or blank and write them, as long as I know the book, I should be able to write them successfully, but I don't *know* any attack spells :( 04:03 liches are kinda slow at growing up 04:04 but once they reach demilich, it goes faster 04:04 since they deal more damage 04:04 Fortunately I know create monster 04:04 so this is trivial if time consuming 04:04 heh 04:04 you could just use it on dlvl1 04:05 Well that or get the book of create familiar in the shop 04:05 and try for another pet 04:05 Minotaur would be nice :) 04:05 a lich is IMO much more useful 04:05 but YMMV 04:07 FIQ, I have a magic whistle, multiple pets is relatively easy :) 04:07 FIQ, there's a way to give items to pets in FIQHack, i.e, armor and such? 04:08 throw it 04:08 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Val Hum Fem Law), 742 points, T:1476, killed by a hill orc 04:11 FIQ, hrm, lichs don't use weapons? Otherwise I'd go retrieve Orcrist. 04:11 they do not 04:12 this is the major reason as to why a lich without spells isn't very useful 04:13 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 04:13 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 04:13 EST: pushed a minor fix 04:14 FIQ, yeah, I need to find him a book of magic missle. I have cone of cold, but I was saving that for myself 04:14 do you reach skilled in attack spells? 04:14 if not, I think the lich could make better use of it 04:15 I can't even get skills in attack spells, At least I don't need to bless it for him 04:16 then I think the lich has more use fo rit 04:16 *for it 04:16 FIQ, I'm still trying to figure out how Izcack became a silver dragon of all things 04:16 I don't know 04:16 possibly caught by polymorph crossfire 04:17 maybe he always wanted to be a silver dragon 04:17 I would think he would be a yellow light 04:17 :) 04:17 Interestingly, he stillc ounts as a shopkeeper and still talks 04:18 pets do not attack peacefuls 04:18 heh 04:18 nice 04:19 seems like the lich picked up a book to read the spell 04:21 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2724 04:21 NCommander: metallic armor and shields impede monster casting too 04:21 ... frig 04:22 NCommander: if you can reach expert wands and bless probing, you can check monster spell lists and fail% 04:22 That's a tall order, and a LOT of wands 04:23 what is it at atm? basic? 04:23 basic 04:23 heh 04:23 yeah plenty of zaps needed for that 04:23 If I remember pet mechanics, they'll only equip something of higher enchantment/AC 04:23 yes 04:26 FIQ, boom, now a demilich. Still a long way to go to archlich, but we're going the right way 04:26 heh 04:27 nice 04:27 will go quicker now 04:27 yeah, decent attack, I'm actually OK with him in metal armor so he won't die until I can get defensive spells on him 04:27 at most 24 kills and he's a master lich 04:27 then he'll probably take care of the rest himself 04:27 I'm likely going to altar farm with create monster after I restock my holy water 04:28 * NCommander reminds himself to toss a unihorn 04:28 ah 04:33 NCommander: you can adjust an item into itself to merge everything 04:33 FIQ, I know, I just always found it faster to mass drop and pick up 04:34 ah 04:36 NCommander: at skilled or above, make invisible can toggle invis 04:37 FIQ, I have it as an intristic, and Charger is wearing my old cloak of invisibility 04:37 right, I was thinking for your own benefit 04:37 for shops 04:38 there you go, master 04:39 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Val Hum Fem Law), 8708 points, T:5223, killed by a dog, while frozen by a potion 04:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:44 FIQ, nope, he's arch now :) 04:45 nice 04:50 !tell K2 pushed update 04:50 Will do, FIQ! 04:51 now players have larger control over what equipment pets use 04:51 they will prefer thrown objects over anything else 04:51 preferring the last thrown one 04:59 NCommander: why is there a billion peaceful zombies 04:59 lol 05:00 FIQ, #turn 05:00 ah 05:00 Sadly, chaotic doesn't vaporize them 05:00 heh 05:05 God, watching the Tame Purple L go around is nuts 05:05 Never realized they get that powerful 05:07 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 05:07 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 07:50 EST: pushed update 05:08 NCommander: if you restart, pets will now prefer items thrown at them over anything else 05:08 so you can tell it that its own opinions on armor sucks 05:09 FIQ, course you do that AFTER I left the leather stuff up stairs, still he only knows cone of cold so it's not a big deal until I learn magic missle 05:09 NCommander: you need to exit back to dgamelaunch 05:09 also, cone of cold is better than magic missile 05:10 :P 05:10 explosions are nice 05:10 they can't miss 05:10 FIQ, eh, true. I also need to find some wands of light so I can get wand up 05:10 NCommander: also I pushed the fix earlier, blame K2 for being slow updating ;) 05:11 I'm just debating what to burn wishes for 05:11 I plan to give the crystal plate to the lich 05:11 Once I have DSM 05:11 since its second best in the game 05:11 peace on earth 05:13 heh I like setting sparkle to 4 05:13 faster animations are nice 05:13 while keeping it there 05:15 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:17 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 05:17 oh god that's a lot of solders. 05:18 <[Demo]> where? 05:18 [Demo], my game 05:18 be mindful of deathzaps 05:18 I've got reflection 05:18 it can bypass reflection 05:18 if the wand user is skilled 05:19 which soldiers are 05:19 <[Demo]> welcome to fiqhack 05:19 <[Demo]> did you add more ways to get mr? 05:19 no 05:20 well 05:20 potions of wonder 05:20 but that doesn't really count 05:20 FIQ, I hope it can't bypass MR 05:20 it can't 05:20 well 05:20 kind of 05:20 it can leveldrain 05:20 past MR 05:20 but never instakill 05:21 drain res protects against that 05:21 also 05:21 only expert+ can do that 05:21 which basically nothing ha 05:21 s 05:21 beyond demon lords, some other uniques, titans, archons and arch-liches 05:22 of course, a blessed wand of death in the hands of a skilled user will work as expert 05:22 you may want to replace charger's shield too 05:22 large shields make spellcasting nearly impossible 05:24 FIQ, I gave him a small one 05:24 ok 05:24 I'm debating if I want the cold immunity or +3 right now 05:25 I mean 05:25 you have seen what liches does with cone of cold 05:25 *do 05:25 FIQ, not yet :P 05:25 oh? I thought you was the one who nearly died at castle 05:25 because a lich nuked a cone of cold spell in your face 05:26 FIQ, no, I got stoned. Literially. 05:26 yes, I know 05:26 later 05:26 Haven't gotten to the castle since 05:26 but I meant at the castle entrance 05:27 in that game 05:27 Oh, possibly 05:27 Don't remember 05:27 IIRC a lich threw a cone of cold at your face 05:27 I do hope he drops that scroll of genocide 05:27 leaving you at like 8 HP from full 05:27 * NCommander could see that ending hilariously bad. 05:27 why? 05:27 also, do you have scrolls of genocide in your bag? 05:27 FIQ, I have a few 05:28 then drop your bag 05:28 he will drop it 05:28 Status of Charger (neutral): Level 37 HP 296(296) Pw 48(48) AC -19, tame <- I think he's nearly ready for the ascension run :P 05:28 :P 05:28 also, if you don't know 05:28 pets can use bags 05:28 <[Demo]> hey fiq do you know how dnh's pet loot/equip system works? 05:28 so if you intend to keep him longterm 05:28 you should probably get some escape items 05:28 for him 05:29 scroll of fire for slimes, lizard corpses, etc 05:29 FIQ, i don't even have a lizard for myself :( 05:29 (and then put them inside a bag and give him -- he will stash things appropriately to keep it safe until need) 05:29 ah 05:30 FIQ, damn, you really gave them a brain 05:30 <[Demo]> implement something similar to dnh's pet equip/loot system 05:30 yes, I wanted pet use to not be an exercise in tedium 05:30 this entailed giving them a brain 05:30 FIQ, well the one annoying bit is Charger keeps teleporting in from of me and breaking me out of fast travel 05:30 [Demo]: FIQHack doesn't have a direct equip/loot system, but you can accomplish basically the same thing by other means 05:31 NCommander: hmm I wonder why that is 05:31 I mean, I know the teleporting thing, that is ok 05:31 but travel should ignore pets 05:31 simply displacing them 05:31 FIQ, I think I might be failing to displace him, he's got stealth and invisibity though I can see invisible 05:34 yeah 05:34 he learned cone of cold 05:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:34 damn 05:34 Lichs aren't cold resistant aren't they 05:35 I should probably have given a cloak of cold immunity 05:35 So he doesn't YASD himself 05:41 !tell K2 pushed a fix 05:41 Will do, FIQ! 05:41 NCommander: liches are cold immune, yes 05:41 shiny 05:41 pushed a fix to make travel less annoying with pets 05:42 will be live once K2 updates 05:42 ... it's like some weird reality where the dev team listens to users and applies fixes O_O 05:42 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 05:42 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 08:41 EST: pushed a fix 05:43 NCommander: aosdict did tell you earlier, with the trice thing 05:43 irc.freenode.##nethack-variants.weechatlog:2017-12-14 13:39:12 aosdict welcome to fiqhack, where bugs are fairly common but they get fixed in 3 minutes after you discover them :) 05:43 :P 05:44 [Demo]: 1 account wasn't enough? :p 05:44 "Demo2" 05:44 <[Demo]> ok so like 05:44 <[Demo]> i have a dnh game on my main one that im tired of but cant find it in me to kill 05:45 FIQ: i'll ask r/roguelikes to add hdf to ther list once we hit one year 05:45 <[Demo]> so i decided eh, ill play on ascension run 05:45 ah 05:45 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:45 FIQ, :P 05:45 <[Demo]> so i did but then someone suggested i just make another hf acc 05:45 K2: rumflump is the one who added the nethack servers 05:45 <[Demo]> and i like hf better cause its faster 05:45 back then, the combination of mentioned servers gave a complete list of variants 05:45 that is no longer the case 05:46 <[Demo]> also kerio is an arch lich 05:46 i know rumflump add hdf on r/nethack 05:46 does he have that same lvl of access for r/roguelikes? 05:46 [Demo] lol 05:46 he is the one who made the wiki list of servers I think on r/roguelikes 05:47 he has so many different aliases 05:47 it's hard to track 06:01 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:01 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5854 points, T:5507, killed by a Woodland-elf, while frozen by a potion 06:02 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:02 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:13337 06:10 The wiki's page on rnz is definitely the most math-heavy page there. 06:15 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 28476 points, T:14016, killed by an incubus, while dressing up 06:22 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 190 points, T:750, killed by a water demon 06:24 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4656 points, T:4358, killed by a quasit 06:29 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 34 points, T:461, killed by a fox 06:29 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 384 points, T:1113, killed by a dwarf zombie 06:34 <[Demo]> so i dont use arrows but if i were to whats the size of an enchanted end game stack? 06:37 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 201 points, T:1347, killed by a gnome lord 06:42 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 184 points, T:845, killed by a gnome lord 06:49 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 266 points, T:1144, killed by a giant rat 06:52 [Demo] I like to have at least 80-100 arrows on hand, +6 to +7 06:52 they get heavy is the only thing 06:53 <[Demo]> ok thats what i was estimating around 06:53 <[Demo]> shouldn't have a weight issue because dnh 06:53 eh? 06:53 dnh doesnt do encumberance? 06:54 <[Demo]> dnh has ways to get more carrying space 06:54 <[Demo]> and i am utilizing those 06:56 !tell K2 pushed a bug where MR wouldn't actually work against magic missile 06:56 Will do, FIQ! 06:56 <[Demo]> also helps that i have an effective movement speed of 40 06:57 heh 06:57 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 09:56 EST: pushed a bug where MR wouldn't actually work against magic missile 06:59 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2167 07:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:08 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 2936 points, T:2977, poisoned by a quasit, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 07:11 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:12 [04hdf-us] [10fh] Katsuo (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 40900 points, T:4026, killed by a black unicorn 07:16 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 07:16 Does it possible to copy settings and scoreboard from hardfought to eu.hardfought? 07:17 Is it possible* 07:17 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] deki (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1043 points, T:4429, killed by a pony 07:22 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 07:22 puck1: yes 07:22 press j on the "main menu" of dgl 07:23 What about scoreboard? 07:23 , FIQ 07:23 ahh, you'll have to ask Tangles about that 07:24 Only fiqhack scoarboard doesnt sync with eu? 07:24 no, *no* nethack scoreboard syncs with eu 07:24 including (but not limited to) fiqhack 07:25 And I need ask Tangles about implementing scoreboard syncing, right? 07:26 [12hdf-eu] [10fh] FIQ (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 39208 points, T:7265, killed by a rabid rat 07:26 yeah, but I already did :p 07:27