00:03 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Dro Fem Non), 0 points, T:7, killed by a kobold 00:07 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Dro Fem Non), 99 points, T:202, killed by a sewer rat 00:07 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Bat Fem Non), 24 points, T:6, killed by a water moccasin 00:20 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Dro Fem Non), 39 points, T:245, killed by a water moccasin, while praying 00:25 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Grasshopper (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34222 00:27 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Sam Clk Fem Law), 0 points, T:10, zapped herself with a wand 00:29 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:48 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] DrakeMarshall (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 356 points, T:677, killed by a red mold 00:51 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:21 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 01:28 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 284 points, T:1239, killed by a giant bat 01:57 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:23 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 2592 points, T:3406, killed by a rothe 02:25 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 94 points, T:329, killed by a jackal 03:08 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 03:22 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 2789 points, T:3362, killed by a giant bat 03:26 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 269 points, T:479, killed by a sewer rat 03:34 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:35 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper_] by ChanServ 03:35 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:38 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 03:39 morning 03:41 NCommander: it was fixed yes 03:41 yay 03:41 once K2 was bac on 03:41 *back 03:41 Good I have something to do today 03:41 after all, the issue was already fixed 03:41 just I'm bottlenecked by K2 :P 03:42 [11hdf-us] [12slex] zhngchq (Cou Yuk Mal Law), 0 points, T:70, killed by a monster (small turret) 03:46 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:04 ais523: what is the highest nethack streak? 04:04 Tariru is on his 20th game in 3.6.0 streak-wise 04:05 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1233 points, T:1864, killed by a wererat 04:07 and he has been playing each role 1-2 times heh 04:08 it's by Adeon; offhand I remember 23 but I might have misremembered that 04:08 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-14 22:56 EST: I just found your expanded intro, it's good but where does the Wizard come in? 04:08 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-15 23:36 EST: with blessed !oRA restoring all lost levels, drain-for-gain to do a cheesed protection racket becomes pretty trivial - consider making priests look at your maximum reached XL rather than your current XL 04:08 ‎<‎Rodney‎>‎ adeon has ascended 29 games in a row, between 20090405 and 20090515. adeon's latest game ended in an ascension. 04:08 29 04:08 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 so Tariru has 10 more games to go 04:09 aosdict: the Wizard doesn't appear in the introduction 04:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:09 until he/she reaches Adeon 04:09 also, 3.6.0 seems like a nasty version to streak 04:10 also, !oRA for the prot racket probably is broken, I'll need to fix that 04:10 ais523: yeah, Tariru has arguably passed Adeon in streak-prowess already given 3.6.0 is played rather than 3.4.3 04:11 or evne 3.6.1 04:11 *even 04:13 lol Tariru has 6 dynahack games 04:13 and won 5 of them 04:13 the loss was from an early death ray 04:14 a GWTWOD (giant) 04:19 [11hdf-us] [12slex] zhngchq (Bar Ogr Fem Cha), 101 points, T:190, poisoned by a rotted cold trove corpse 04:34 -!- nht has quit [Quit: nht] 04:36 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 578 points, T:968, killed by a red naga hatchling 04:37 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 04:51 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 810 points, T:1781, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 04:53 Jonathanhanes: I wanted more monster/player symmetry 04:53 also I wanted to test wand rebalance in practice 05:00 [11hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 422 points, T:2117, killed by a brown mold 05:04 [11hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 99 points, T:581, killed by a falling rock 05:06 !tell StatueSurfer I actually mean removing it entirely, since there are already perfectly good consumable resources to spend that accomplish the same thing. 05:06 Will do, aosdict! 05:06 and even an infinitely rechargeable one, come to think of it, if you're a tourist 05:08 [11hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 322 points, T:861, killed by a gnome 05:10 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 416 points, T:1848, killed by a giant bat 05:13 remove what? 05:13 charm monster? 05:13 go for it 05:14 [11hdf-us] [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 388 points, T:1195, killed by a giant bat 05:15 [Demo]: not true, you are not allowed to grab ctrl+t nor F6 05:16 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Grasshopper (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +5 boots of speed", on T:37894 05:23 FIQ: no, *create* monster 05:24 I'm also considering nuking the spell of create monster, actually, since it provides a renewable way to get infinite food, prayer timeout, luck, favors, and gifts in any game with a coaligned altar. 05:27 Barb quest leader's chest has a dusty spellbook, wand of polymorph and a ring of polymorph 05:27 starting to wonder if the spellbook is polymorph as well! 05:31 aosdict: ah 05:34 not sure if removing it would be a good idea since it's such a huge nerf to sacfesting 05:34 but then again, it's the sort of nerf you generally wouldn't notice until late in the game 05:34 unless you actually tried and failed to write it, then it would be annoying 05:42 [11hdf-us] [10fh] Lis (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 21299 points, T:716, killed by a gnome 06:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:03 FIQ: I wish I could easily flip back and forth between the dark vector and regular vector themes 06:03 instead what I'd have to do is manually edit my vector.css to comment out everything and that is... not happening 06:04 aosdict: did you try what I did 06:04 what did you do 06:05 I stopped paying attention a long time back 06:05 fix all the remaining issues 06:05 well 06:05 I made a new skin 06:05 that is dark 06:05 and isn't missing 40% of things 06:05 but it's still in your custom CSS? 06:06 yes 06:06 (where else would it be?) 06:06 the main thing about it is that it actually handles all of the nethack things 06:06 well saying "I made a new skin" sounded like the wiki now has 5 skins for every user to choose from 06:06 5? you mean 2? 06:06 but yeah I can't make a new skin 06:07 I have no access :P 06:07 it currently has 4 skins 06:07 hm, didn't realize 06:07 where do you pick your skin? 06:07 vector, monobook, blue, and...something 06:07 preferences page 06:07 ah 06:07 > appearance 06:09 didn't know 06:09 but yeah I made a custom vector.css 06:09 <[Demo]> ooh create monster 06:09 <[Demo]> so what dnh did was make it a level 6 spell 06:10 <[Demo]> which could have been an effective solution were it not for some of dnh's other changes 06:10 well, the thing I want is to be able to go into preferences and switch from dark to light without having to change to one of the other 3 skins 06:10 or edit a css page 06:11 [Demo]: doesn't resolve the problem of it being an indefinite source of corpses though 06:11 <[Demo]> costs hella power points to the point it is less sustainable 06:11 as long as you can get it at <100% fail 06:11 <[Demo]> an isnt usable til later in the game 06:11 you can farm it 06:11 <[Demo]> by then it doesnt matter as much as if you were doing it early i guess 06:12 <[Demo]> but yeah no i agree it definitely is a problem 06:12 <[Demo]> altar scumming is easily the most viable way to play nethack in general 06:12 aosdict: ahh 06:12 <[Demo]> but thats because its like the only way 06:12 and I don't see a problem with altar scumming if you're doing it by expending resources that eventually get used up, wands, scrolls, bags of tricks 06:13 <[Demo]> its unpleasant 06:13 well, whether you prefer the darkvector you have atm, or my thing that also applies the various nethack things (and fixes hover issues completely), it would be nice if either of them could be its own skin 06:13 <[Demo]> as a ranger how the hell am i supposed to get ahead without it? 06:13 most people don't play rangers as actual ranged combat users 06:14 <[Demo]> how do you play a ranger then? 06:14 you shoot stuff with your bow 06:15 <[Demo]> isnt that ranged combat? 06:15 (er, this is me thinking philosophically about rangers, I can't remember the last time I actually played one) 06:15 <[Demo]> im not sure how to play rogues, tourists, or rangers without altar scumming 06:15 [Demo]: well you're saying that altar scumming (for a melee weapon) is the only viable path for rangers right? 06:16 <[Demo]> rogues maybe if you get a good enough stack of enchanted aggers 06:16 <[Demo]> daggers 06:16 <[Demo]> no its the only one i know 06:16 <[Demo]> im sure there are other viable paths 06:16 <[Demo]> and im asking what they are 06:17 well I mean, bow+arrow is supposed to be a viable path. whether it is is up to dispute 06:17 rogues and tourists are supposed to be playable without early artifacts too 06:18 <[Demo]> how do you get over the initial difficulty curve? 06:19 tourists' +2 darts are intended to do that 06:19 rogues' dagger stack is also intended to do that 06:19 by letting them hit stuff before it can hit them 06:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:25 <[Demo]> so i guess im just bad at the whole ranged thing then 06:31 [Demo], use autopickup and pickup_thrown for rogues, rangers, tourists 06:31 it'll make life much easier 06:32 and safer 06:32 then throw lots of stuff and prosper 06:36 Flung yo' junk 06:37 aosdict: ok so my main issue now 06:37 is pages like these: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Magic_cancellation 06:37 who say fuck you to color customization 06:37 and forces its own colors 06:38 http://home.fiq.se/ripcolors.png 06:48 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:49 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:01 FIQ: as in, they're hardcoded colors on the page? 07:01 yep 07:01 the headers weren't, that was a missing customization on my end 07:01 but the yellow background thing 07:01 is special-cased 07:01 huh, in my vector.css, I don't see that. 07:02 all the table cells are the same dark color 07:02 aosdict: IIRC I added a bunch of !importants to kill off color customization 07:02 in that dark vector thing 07:02 But it also kills basically all other customizations, which people may find genuinely useful 07:02 !important is like a sledgehammer for css 07:03 aosdict: it was the only way for me to shut off special-cased color settings 07:03 but I would rather not use it 07:04 maybe I should do what I did with the main page yesterday 07:04 make a .table-highlight class in common.css 07:04 the global common.css 07:04 and set it to that color 07:05 there should really not be any inline styles for non-positioning stuff on the wiki 07:07 also, if someone does feel it absolutely neccessary to do special backgrounds/whatever 07:07 they should *always* also set the text color 07:07 to not completely fuck over people with different styles 07:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:40 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:07 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 08:07 darts of detonation 08:07 yes please 08:09 they mulch after a single throw though 08:09 because they, wel 08:09 *well 08:09 explode 08:09 Sure, you treat them as grenades. 08:09 yah but 79 of them? 08:09 Oh, wow. 08:09 That is a lot. 08:09 should last me til ascension at least 08:10 YASI: grenadier role, starts with darts of detonation 08:10 how did you get that many 08:11 FIQ: probably dipped a big stack in wonder. 08:11 dart traps 08:11 ah 08:12 Wait, they came as detonation already from the traps? 79 of them? 08:12 50 from one trap 29 from another 08:12 Wow. 08:12 Nice. 08:12 thirsty darts of fire and detonation 08:13 Heh. 08:13 thirsty vorpal darts of fire, detonation, and acid. 08:13 wouldn't detonation override any other properties 08:14 jonadab: seems I accidentally made people actually use the elemental rings 08:14 luxidream has used poison and shock immunity, and jonadab is wearing fire immunity atm :P 08:14 err Jonathanhanes 08:14 heh 08:14 FIQ: Interesting. 08:14 yah got hit with some nasty fire wands in quest and 08:15 ah 08:15 i've also got gloves of shock immune 08:16 yeah I saw that 08:18 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:4486 08:18 !tell rikersan Actually, I could probably pursue a dual approach with YANIs, and just streamline whatever source files I create for them into the wiki table as well. 08:18 Will do, aosdict! 08:18 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4685 08:18 phew 08:18 thats a long time to be using darts 08:22 a potion of wonder 08:22 neat 08:23 "Exotic intrinsics can be acquired this way like magic resistance -- and hunger, polymorph, slowness" 08:23 seems risky 08:25 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:7104 08:27 let me just jump into this water real quick 08:31 a ring of regeneration AND hunger 08:34 there's nothing left to do but beat the game :( 08:38 hi 08:38 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:38 !booze K2 08:38 * Beholder pours K2 a fifth of booze, decanted by FCCBot at 56 Kelvin. 08:39 heh 08:39 Jonathanhanes: the jackpot would be intrinsic phasing 08:40 yah that'd be something 08:40 i can cast phasing at 9% fail rate right now thoough 08:40 i don't think i'll drink it 08:40 i'm a baby 08:41 Hey K2, I've finally pushed a few bugfixes to the compat-3.15.1 branch. It's a minor message disambiguation patch and what I think is a corner-case crash bug fix. 08:41 ok cool 08:42 or maybe i will 08:42 heck 08:42 Jonathanhanes: you can also get object properties by dipping things into it 08:42 make sure to bless it first if you do 08:43 (you want to bless it no matter what, unless you want to remove a property) 08:43 decisions decisions 08:44 dNetHack updated (us and eu) 08:44 also thanks for not blowing up my boh when i accidently fatfingered a /oCancel in it early game 08:44 np 08:45 Jonathanhanes: mind you, aggravate monster is not worth removing at this point 08:45 since the amulet will give slotless aggravate monstert 08:45 *aggravate monster 08:46 !rng drink dip 08:46 Jonathanhanes: drink 08:46 bottoms up 08:46 ugh 08:47 damn you 08:47 have fun :) 08:47 at least it isn't polymorphitis 08:47 a blessed potion of speed can help you get rid of it 08:47 oh this is just wrong 08:47 what have you done 08:48 slow is easily one of the absolute worst results 08:48 only fumbling and polymorphitis is worse IMO 08:48 i should have dipped 08:48 you betrayed me beholder 08:49 is there no cure? 08:49 a blessed potion of speed 08:49 nothing else 08:49 oh, and keep in mind 08:49 slow overrides speed 08:49 enjoy being speed 6 08:50 i may just #quit tbh 08:50 meh, you do have speed 08:50 all you did was waste a potion 08:51 well, 2 08:52 Thanks K2 :) 08:52 welcome :) 08:56 fiq: what about cancelling a spellcaster? 08:56 !who 08:56 K2: [11hdf-us] jonathanhanes [10fh] Grasshopper [07nd] 08:56 K2: [12hdf-eu] Raisse [07nd] 08:56 -.- 08:56 that's pretty nasty 08:56 dammit 08:56 Jonathanhanes: ? 08:57 i'm annoyed 08:57 hothraxxa: yes, but no worse than being hit by the wand or spell 08:57 annoying, but not game-ending 08:57 i'm thinking about what to do 08:57 since, given that it is already permanent by "normal" sources, there is already plenty of means to get rid of it 08:57 * Jonathanhanes throws a potion of wonder at FIQ 08:58 * FIQ catches the potion of wonder. FIQ drinks a potion of wonder! FIQ looks a little strange... FIQ seems rather clumsy. 08:58 it's been a while, but istr that the only way to fix being cancelled was a magic trap 08:59 or praying (it's a major trouble) 08:59 or drinking noncursed gain energy 08:59 or reading scrolls of charging while confused 08:59 yeah prayer. in gehennom. with the amulet 08:59 ok i'm not recalling it correctly then. 08:59 if gain energy fixes it 09:00 i thought it prevented you from casting. it''s not a power issue 09:00 it does 09:01 i just remember running all over gehennom once trying to find a magic trap 09:01 but drinking gain energy removes cancellation 09:01 on top of giving energy like usual 09:01 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:21604 09:02 ok then i had it wrong. i remember concluding that a magic trap was my only hope 09:02 ah 09:03 i'm sure i would have had charging at that point, so i don't know why i reached that conclusion 09:03 I made magic traps have a yellow ^ in fiqhack since 09:03 so it's easier to find 09:04 i have said before that i think fiqhack has the best user interface by a good margin 09:04 stuff like that 09:06 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:21704 09:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:21 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:23 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 09:25 [11hdf-us] [10fh] JH (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the eye of the aethiopica", on T:32418 09:27 surprisingly late wish 09:27 had an extra lamp 09:27 still have 3 charges on my wand 09:27 don't really need anything at this point though 09:27 figure i'd take the quicker power regen 09:27 ah 09:28 this is the point where fiqhack gets tricky 09:28 post-wiz 09:28 i'm not worried 09:28 maybe i should be though 09:29 it's not that bad 09:29 i think i'll geno e 09:29 but can be nasty if you're unprepared 09:29 why? because of floating eyes? 09:29 yah 09:29 ok so 09:29 the thing about fiqhack endgame is 09:29 aligned priests got smarter 09:30 and got a nastier spell list 09:30 they can have slow monster 09:30 and they *will* have create monster 09:30 so sanctum and astral is trickier as a result 09:31 but the variance is high (mostly on astral since 1st altar is much easier than 3rd) 09:31 i'll just have to cancel them or something :P 09:31 the aligned priests is the biggest difference 09:31 but astral also have a lot of things with wands in general 09:32 and rays and explosions will fly all over the place 09:32 which can be nasty with partial resistances 09:32 and there's cancellation and slow 09:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:33 i may be wishing up some c corpses in the future then 09:33 remember that fh has slowstoning for monsters too 09:34 the nastiest thing that can happen is you becoming slow 09:34 slower you mean 09:34 slow the intrinsic 09:35 it trumps speed 09:35 so your speed will become 6 09:35 i'll just zap myself with slow monster 09:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35 can't slow me down if i'm already slow 09:35 whether you have intrinsic/extrinsic sped or not 09:35 lol 09:35 *speed 09:35 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:36 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 09:37 K2: why is this choice left to the user? 09:37 gzip: /dgldir/userdata/F/FIQ/dynahack/ttyrec/2017-12-16.17:37:15.ttyrec.gz already exists; do you wish to overwrite (y or n)? 09:40 K2: I broke it again 09:40 Sorry 09:42 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:20609 09:43 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14319 points, T:20639, killed by a giant mimic 09:45 ok 09:45 no time like the present 09:45 eeeeeee 09:45 if i ascend this game i promise never to quaff a potion of wonder again 09:45 heh 09:45 oh shit raisse RIP :( 09:45 I like the gamble 09:45 if it's earlygame 09:46 raisse: ouch 09:46 yeah 09:46 some day soonish a tourist will float to the top 09:46 (one did, but a minotaur got it, leaving yummy bones for Grasshopper) 09:46 s/it/her/ 09:46 yummy 09:46 nom nom 09:47 BoH still blessed, things like that 09:47 not bad 09:47 I wonder why Grasshopper was playing on the eu server 09:47 unless I left the bones on the us server before the eu server was operational 09:47 to steal your bones 09:53 Morning world 10:02 [11hdf-us] [10fh] JH (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:33042 10:20 good morning NCommander 10:20 Jonathanhanes, yay for the ascension run 10:21 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1909 10:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:36 [11hdf-us] [10fh] please (rikersan) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 20256 points, T:309, killed by a black pudding 10:36 !who 10:36 FIQ: [11hdf-us] naeroon [10fh] FIQ [10fh] rikersan [10fh] jonathanhanes [10fh] NCommander [10fh] Zxkuqyb [13dnh] 10:36 FIQ: [12hdf-eu] Raisse [07nd] 10:36 RNG is being odd 10:37 NCommander: in what way? 10:37 * NCommander has never seen a horn of plenty in game before, and now has two and another unidentified one ... 10:37 FIQ, just odd in what it's giving me 10:37 heh 10:37 Also got a really lame minetown, a very small HW store and cross-aligned altar :/ 10:37 ouch 10:38 lack of general store can hurt 10:38 FIQ, so is it a FIQhack change that pets won't attack peacefuls? I've noticed my dog tends not to go after the watch anymore 10:38 a nethack4 change 10:38 <[Demo]> every time the rng screws you over in fh u have to get mad at fiq personally 10:38 but yeah 10:38 FIQ, yeah. Main dungeon had a jewelry store and coughed up a normal sack + leash so at least I can KINDA price ident and steal without being too annoyed 10:39 I'm clearing out all the stores with my pet which I usually don't bother doing but in this case ... 10:39 May try to credit clone and see if I can buy some protection 10:40 [11hdf-us] [10fh] JH (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:34232 10:40 the game did give up a magic lamp but I have all of a single potion and without a coaligned altar 10:40 * NCommander pauses to watch Jonathanhanes's ascension 10:47 surprsingly tame air 10:47 * NCommander finds air to be the most dangerous, and water to be the most annoying 10:48 in fh you can levitate over plane of water iirc 10:49 i blindfolded myself for air so there was probably a lot of stuff i wasn't seeing 10:50 hothraxxa, that was true in NH343. Last ascension was 361dev 10:50 [11hdf-us] [10fh] JH (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached the Astral Plane, on T:34453 10:50 can't do it in 3.6+ 10:51 but fh, unless i missed a change, it's possible 10:53 Oh that got unfriendly 10:53 Astral Plane with intelligent monsters that read items 10:53 Ouch 10:53 it used to be worse 10:54 the mobbing the first time i ascended fh was unbelievable 10:54 monsters spamming wands of create monster 10:54 with vanilla levels of charges 10:55 It's a main reason why I consider conflict seriously essential for astral 10:55 and he's jammed up against two riders 10:55 i can't remember the last time i used conflict on astral 10:56 <[Demo]> use squirm storm 10:56 that's my mo 10:56 cursed geno purplw worms, tame, break wand of tp, repeat 3 times preferrably 10:57 <[Demo]> ur not doing it right if u dont name them after matrix sequels i.e. squirmy, squirmy reloaded, etc 10:57 oh yeah he's getting the traditional fh monster mobs 10:57 purple worms would just die 10:57 I think 10:57 since monsters are more aggressive against your pets now 10:57 heh. i used to name them after members of teamsplat 10:58 fiq: when i did it they still did enough damage to make it worthwhile 10:58 grats Jonathanhanes! 10:59 hothraxxa: ah 10:59 wow, for great victory 10:59 Nicely done. 10:59 Always love watching ascensions 10:59 sweet 10:59 being slow didn't hurt me too much at all 11:00 because it only hit you once and lasted for like 2 turns 11:00