00:00 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:01 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 00:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 00:07 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 00:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 00:33 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13118 00:45 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:49 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 00:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:07 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:08 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 26070 points, T:15109, killed by a troll 02:02 hm.. scroll of sketch of the wings of garuda? 02:03 also, are there any drawbacks of using ring of regen on Incantifier? 02:32 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35 how do I deal with hungry dead? o-o 02:35 oh it died 02:38 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:38 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 02:55 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 03:03 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:15530 03:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:29 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:32 jonadab: I tried the discline thing. It kind of works, but the project seems rather immature and unstable atm: http://home.fiq.se/discline.png 03:36 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3841 03:39 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:48 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 03:49 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:15885 03:49 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:15886 03:51 that could have gone better. 03:51 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54 wow, there are variants where Vlad can actually kill you? 03:54 yes 03:54 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 02:58 EST: pushed a fix 03:56 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:56 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 03:59 Hi K2 03:59 heya 03:59 hows it goin? 04:00 not too bad... just taking it easy. 04:00 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 04:00 nice 04:00 about to head to work 04:01 winter storm warning in effect, should get a fair amount of snow today 04:01 ah right.... I was going to say I just got home, but actually it's 11pm here, so that was a while ago. 04:01 stay safe! 04:02 its not bad, only a foot or so of snow. love it 04:02 snow = skiing :) 04:02 sounds nice actually :) 04:03 the only crappy part is having to prep for longer commute times 04:03 so what did you do exactly to the bot to get it to report the eu server games? 04:04 was it a change in the botconf? 04:04 No. I just added some missing lines to the logReport function. 04:04 ah ok 04:05 https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder/commit/50c40cc7e28cadde58ddb8a9e862a565987a15bf 04:06 the slave wasn't actually reporting back to the master. 04:09 i gotta learn more programming 04:10 i looked at your commits last night and saw the title but i guess i didnt get it 04:10 was so tired last night, went to bed early 04:11 All good.... I'm thinking I may do the same tonight. 04:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:24 i needed to, was sleep deprived over last few days 04:25 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 159686 points, T:19879, killed by an ochre jelly 04:25 dude.. 04:26 :C 04:26 :/ 04:27 from like +20 hp to -12 in one splash 04:27 didn't know the jellies is so painful 04:27 are* 04:33 off to work see you from there 04:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:36 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:38 YANI: MZ_GIGANTIC monsters can't move onto any space for which any two of the adjacent spaces opposite from each other are non-walkable. Same for MZ_HUGE, but requiring 2 or 3 pairs of nonwalkable spaces. 06:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:03 -!- khoR_ has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- khoR has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:14 -!- firemonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:21 -!- firemonkey has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:59 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 07:03 Hmm, I feel like I should add some thiefstone rumors. 07:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:12 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:20 they say a thiefstone will make you rock hard in bed 07:21 uh... sure you're not thinking of some slex petrification stone? 07:21 or is that a cockatrice corpse? sometimes i get confused 07:21 i blame demogorgon 07:22 we had a big fight. i had to kill him 07:22 ugh. thiefstone shows up as an apply-able item when I'm carrying this touchstone, but not otherwise. What? 07:28 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 07:28 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 07:31 [11hdf-us] [10fh] Elph (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the archeologist of HI BILLY MAZE HERE, the former Digger, on T:4983 07:31 I love how you can just tell when it's a Luxidream name 07:34 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 07:37 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:37 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- nikheizen has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:48 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:56 -!- firemonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:08 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2334 08:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:42 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 08:44 -!- zxkuqyb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:48 [11hdf-us] [12slex] aeoo (Bin Dee Mal Cha), 113 points, T:509, killed by a monster (clockwork dwarf) 08:55 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] aeoo (Bin Hum Mal Non), 0 points, T:89, killed by a newt 08:56 ^ binders are not any easier in any variant 08:58 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] aeoo (Bin Hum Mal Non), 0 points, T:84, killed by a poisonous corpse 09:05 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1667 09:10 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given Cleaver, on T:2212 09:13 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:20 bug: you can be trapped inside a shop, with no means of escaping, if a monster reads a scroll of earth and it fills the doorway 09:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:20 why is this specific to a shop? 09:21 couldn't it happen in any room? 09:21 and even then, can't you drop a lot of stuff and squeeze past? 09:21 no, the shk won't move 09:22 and there's 2 boulders, one in the doorway and one behind it 09:22 theoretically I could kill the shk and then squeeze out but that's not really practical for a lvl 8 orc barb 09:23 oh, hm, I can get him to move 09:23 ... can monsters leave squares with boulders? 09:25 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:27 aosdict: I've had that happen in Sokoban. Centaur picked up the two scrolls of earth, stood in a doorway between me and the Sokoban exit, read both. 09:28 I escaped though 09:28 with the power of force bolt at 98% fail 09:28 rikersan: Monsters can _leave_ a tile that has boulders on it, just as you can. The thing most monsters can't do is _enter_ a tile with boulders on it. 09:28 There are, of course, exceptions. 09:29 (Anything unsolid, anything that can phase, and giants.) 09:34 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] firemonkey (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14277 09:42 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] firemonkey (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "a blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:14845 09:43 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 09:52 ENLC00xydNV"iyW==;Cffw 09:53 don't paste passwords publicly 09:53 -!- bouquet_ has quit [Quit: bouquet_] 09:57 dang 09:59 That's much too short to be a password. 10:00 my pswd is 'hunter2', so I don't think that's too short at all 10:09 -!- rikersan has quit [] 10:09 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 10:17 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:26 Hmm. Someone in here the other day linked to this BrowserHack thing. I opened it, and it put up a progress bar animation, "Loading... This may take a while for the first time." Minimzed and forgot about it. 10:26 Noticed it today. It _still_ has the progress bar animation. 10:26 I think I will just close it now.l 10:27 jonadab: please 10:27 did you expect it to work with just HTML and CSS? 10:27 FIQ: No, no, I opened it in Opera. 10:27 oh 10:27 Which has All The Things enabled. 10:27 opera is too old 10:27 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 10:27 it was before JS engines got fast 10:28 so not really usable 10:28 for this 10:28 is opera still actively developed? 10:28 jonadab: try qupzilla if you want something lightweight simple 10:28 aosdict: Yes... kind of 10:28 aosdict: sort of kind of. They abandoned their rendering engine and just wrap webkit now. 10:29 yeah 10:29 exactly 10:29 Which disappointed me significantly. 10:29 well, Blink 10:29 but yeah 10:29 Because I like having multiple rendering engines competing. 10:29 But whatever. 10:29 jonadab: yes, I agree that opera abandoning their own engine was a loss 10:29 opera used to be my main browser 10:29 but ultimately you just have to deal with it 10:30 I never used Opera as my _main_ browser, but I've used it as an auxilliary browser for a long time. 10:30 also, there is still multiple rendering engines competing 10:30 Gecko, WebKit, and whatever MS Edge's engine is called 10:30 Hmm. 10:31 jonadab: anyway, if you want to try browserhack 10:31 I was trying to decide if Edge should count. 10:31 use something newer than opera 12 10:31 Given that most folks who use a Microsoft browser use IE still. 10:31 asm.js was designed for more recent js engines 10:31 with better optimizations 10:31 In other words, it's an unconscionable resource hog. 10:31 and there is even asm.js-specific optimizations now, due to how prevalent it became 10:32 jonadab: meh 10:32 asm.js is fair game 10:32 the fact that everything js is so bloat today 10:32 is unrelated to asm.js 10:32 I do have qupzilla here. 10:32 Which hasn't impressed me thus far, but I have it. 10:32 it has a recent enough engine to work 10:32 with browserhack 10:33 I got it running on my openpandora 10:33 and you know how great its specs are 10:33 Ah. Indeed. 10:33 jonadab: anyway, like I said yesterday or so 10:34 not a big fan of the browserhack interface 10:34 but it's cool that it works 10:34 and my gripes with the interface seems easily fixable in comparision to, you know 10:34 Sure, I wasn't expecting to want to play the game that way. 10:34 actually getting it running 10:34 that way 10:34 yeah 10:35 jonadab: clearly libuncursed should have a browser addon :) 10:38 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 10:39 aosdict: ya... Keepass autotype is awesome but I need to put in a general rule to not type in my IRC window. 10:39 at least there's no clue where that combination goes. Changed it anyway. 10:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:00 whyyy does it only recognize the thiefstone as appliable when I have other appliable gray stones in inventory 11:01 makes no sense 11:03 Oh, the "which objects make sense for this verb" code, that is a lot of fun to dig around in. 11:03 it's basically two giant if statements 11:04 which means gcc will probably optimize most of it 11:04 fun 11:04 aosdict: in apply.c, look for calls to uhave_graystone() 11:04 class_list = tools_too; 11:05 In other words, if you are carrying an appliable gray stone, all gems show up as appliable. 11:05 that makes absolutely no sense 11:05 ^ 11:05 I didn't write it. 11:05 sometimes I fear for the sanity of nethack devs 11:06 I'm just readin' what it sez. 11:06 both variant and vanilla 11:06 uhave_graystone() uses is_graystone() to determine if any of your inventory items are gray stones. 11:06 Which is defined in obj.h 11:07 Yeah, is_graystone should be accepting thiefstones, I changed that a while back. 11:08 The problem is in getobj(), as far as I can tell. 11:09 jonadab: grepping for uhave_graystone only turns up one match in a list of functions in sys/msdos. Maybe it was recently removed. 11:10 Oh, hmm. 11:11 Maybe 3.6 changes how doapply() decides which object classes are appliable. 11:11 [11hdf-us] [10fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased stethoscope named what's up HF chat", on T:1 11:11 [11hdf-us] [10fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased horn of plenty named how yall doin", on T:2 11:11 Ah, yes, it calls something called setapplyclasses() 11:12 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:12 if (otyp == TOUCHSTONE || (is_graystone(otmp) && (!otmp->dknown || (!knowtouchstone && !objects[otyp].oc_name_known)))) addstones = TRUE; 11:14 [11hdf-us] [10fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased -5 vorpal blade", on T:23 11:14 nMinus 5? 11:14 In other words, gems are appliable if you are carrying a touchstone, or if you are carrying a gray stone and officially don't know if it's a touchstone or not. 11:14 Yeah, but a thiefstone should always be appliable. 11:15 aosdict: Then make that (otyp == TOUCHSTONE || otype == THIEFSTONE || ... 11:15 That'd make gems appliable if you were carrying a thiefstone and not a touchstone though 11:15 And actually, you might want to further complicate it for unidentified thiefstones. 11:15 Oh, true. 11:16 Ah, in that case, maybe you want to make the change in doapply() itself. 11:16 Hmmmmmmmmm 11:16 Thiefstone with !oc_name_known = appliable. 11:16 See all the special-cased appliable things there? Cream pies, etc.? 11:16 With oc_name known = not appliable. 11:17 [11hdf-us] [10fh] much theef very rock (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 holy partly eaten segfault blade", on T:1 11:17 Oh, wait. That's the part that does what happens _when_ you apply them. 11:18 obj = getobj(class_list, "use or apply") 11:18 Hmm. 11:18 Seems like it's got to be all or nothing, either gem-class objects are appliable, or they ain't. 11:18 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:18 Unless you want to duplicate or refactor getobj() 11:19 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:19 Maybe make it take negative numbers in the list for specific objects, or something. 11:19 Ugh. 11:19 Can't believe i just suggested that. 11:19 Exposure to the NetHack codebase is destroying my common sense. 11:19 Well, the getobj() if statement, if it evals to true, should result in the item NOT being picked, right? 11:22 [11hdf-us] [10fh] much theef very rock (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "cursed historic greased the Amulet of Yendor named I win", on T:4 11:22 So currently it's saying a * object that's not a gray stone shouldn't go on the list. 11:22 But then there has to be some exception to that somewhere... 11:31 !tell K2 Pushed a fix to a nethack4 bug in FIQHack 11:31 Will do, FIQ! 11:35 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:38 jonadab: Oh, I see, setapplyclasses determines whether getobj will consider the * class at all, and without a touchstone or unidentified gray stone in inventory, it won't consider that class. 11:39 Right. 11:40 getobj() gives the player a list of objects that the verb is applicable to. 11:40 So changing this function should hopefully work. 11:40 You could just makes gems always appliable. 11:40 [11hdf-us] [114k] Bones Mc'gee (Ssach) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5466 points, T:2545, killed by a large mimic 11:41 Eh. Trying to make minimal changes to vanilla. 11:42 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:42 ^^ a weird name that's not luxidream o-O 11:43 I'd expect Bones Mcgee to be a polyinit skeleton? 11:43 likely 11:43 YANI: allow skeletons to appear outside of Orcus-town, in graveyards and things. 11:44 they don't appear in the valley? 11:44 Nope. 11:44 With how common skeletons are as a fantasy monster, I'd expect to be able to have them randomly generated. 11:44 It's not like they're super threatening. 11:45 Okay, with that fix, I am not aware of any more problems with thiefstones I need to fix. 11:45 Should probably submit the whole diffed branch to Bilious... 11:49 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 11:52 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 11:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 11:54 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 12:06 [11hdf-us] [114k] Robert (Ssach) (Tou Scu Mal Neu), 3957 points, T:1044, killed by a gecko 12:09 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:14 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 12:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 12:17 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 12:22 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:27 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 12:28 the Valley entry messages are hardcoded in do.c 12:28 but I just tried sticking them in the des file and they work just fine 12:29 <[Demo]> maybe if u enter it a certain way... 12:29 <[Demo]> it might cause an issue 12:29 <[Demo]> i know ive heard about problems regarding messages and entering levels 12:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 12:33 AFAIK, there are only two ways to enter the Valley the first time 12:33 levelport in, or fall through in the Castle 12:33 both work 12:34 -!- [Demo]1 has joined #hardfought 12:34 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law), 976 points, T:2611, killed by a water moccasin 12:35 -!- [Demo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:35 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:35 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:35 -!- earenndil has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:35 -!- Minoru has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:36 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:38 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 12:45 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 12:45 -!- Mandevil has quit [*.net *.split] 12:45 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 12:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by ChanServ 12:45 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 12:51 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 12:59 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 13:18 @d?acererak 13:18 Acererak (08,01L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 99 | Generates: unique | AC: -9 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 5d6 touch level drain, 0d0 cast spell, 2d6 gaze level drain | Alignment: 20 | Flags: breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, undead, covetous 13:21 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:27 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:29 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 13:41 What does the S: status represent on Fourk? 13:43 speed 13:43 I think 13:46 oh, score 13:49 Score. 13:49 Same as in vanilla. 13:49 M: is movement rate. 13:49 I should make showscore an option and turn it off by default. 13:49 It's not like it's useful information. 13:54 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 14:00 ah! I never actually show that metric during play 14:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:24 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 683 points, T:2682, killed by a giant bat 14:24 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:11234 14:30 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:11927 14:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:37 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:12892 14:39 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:13228 14:39 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:13274 14:39 chaos quest spam incoming 14:40 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:13310 14:40 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:13368 14:41 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:13407 14:41 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:13469 14:41 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:13477 14:42 and I forgot a pickaxe _again_ 14:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:43 I've been having issues connected to HF-US lately. 14:43 My ssh session stops responding. I've had a few other SSH sessions going in other tabs and they're solid. 14:45 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:14109 14:45 so... is it just me or what? 14:49 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:14643 14:53 bouquet: i haven't had any problem 14:54 what have you tried to diagnose the problem? 14:54 eg when the session freezes, does hdf respond to ping? 15:03 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:07 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 15:14 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:15 -!- Demo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:16 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:27 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:28 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 15:36 ya, it responds. 15:36 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:37 all I've done to diagnose is to have another ssh session open to verify my connection is OK 15:37 new topic: in fourk, if a corpse is poisonous to eat (golden naga) can it cause instadeath or just stat reduction? 15:38 I still need intrinsic poison resistance 15:38 I don't think poisonous corpses can cause instadeath even in vanilla 15:38 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-11 21:02 EST: unintended feature: thiefstones will steal an entire stack if they land on the right object. I'm inclined to leave this one in. 15:38 so I'd like to chow down on this naga 15:39 hooray! "You feel healthy"... finally 15:39 can't believe I've gone this long without poison resist 15:39 ais523: actually thiefstones are more or less finished as of now, minus extras like gold golems and re-initializing a cancelled stone 15:39 are you accidentally hitting ctrl-s by any chance? 15:40 hothraxxa: nope. 15:40 i got nothing then 15:40 aosdict: neat 15:40 how did you implement the migration coordinates? 15:42 ais523: added two xchars mgrx and mgry to struct obj 15:43 could not get around the issue of "any of these other fields might be needed, except owornmask but migration already uses it" 15:43 If I were completely refactoring migration, I'd do it differently, in such a way that lets ox and oy just be the coordinate values. 15:43 I'm fine with that 15:44 that's more sane than how daniel_t did migration, after all 15:44 ais523, that is correct poisonous corpses can cause some stat loss (strength 1-4) and maybe some damage (1-15), but otherwise no instadeath 15:44 in fact, poisonous corpses are one of my favourite ways to get poison resistance 15:45 (so long as you can handle / cure the negative effects) 15:45 yes, I do that too 15:45 giant spiders for example always leave corpses and give 33% chance of PR iirc 15:45 I just tend to be really careful about making statements that could potentially kill someone if I'd misremembered 15:45 especially because my memory is a jumble of 3.4.3 and 3.6.1 and AceHack/NH4 15:46 yeah, dangerous! 15:46 ais523: sketch of the migration refactor, if you're interested: make a struct for migrating objects/monsters, containing a d_level, a mask for the MIGR_* values, a struct obj*, a struct monst*, and a pointer to the next migrating object 15:46 it would be invalid to have the obj and monst both point to something 15:48 I want to do this, but since it wouldn't be used by anyone else, I don't really have a reason to :/ 15:48 I once watched a video of 3 south American kids going into the jungle, catching a bagfull of giant spiders (size of a dinner plate), then roasting them over an open fire 15:48 yum 15:48 aosdict: that is indeed much less insane than what daniel_t did 15:49 [11hdf-us] [10fh] Naeroon (naeroon) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30354 points, T:2428, killed by a killer bee 15:50 Grasshopper: YANI: if food cooking ever is a thing, it should remove poison from (some? all?) types of poisonous corpses. 15:51 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:51 locals here (rural NE Thailand) like to catch the local giant scorpions (I've seen them around 20-30cm long) and roast them 15:52 aosdict, what is that Japanese puffer fish that is deadly poisonous if prepared in the wrong way? 15:52 aosdict: there is a struct entity in dbridge.c 15:52 -!- Webmant7 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:53 maybe you could extend it and use it more generally? 15:54 grasshopper: I think that's puffer fish in general. Our mexico feral dogs often die eating them when they wash up on the beach. 15:54 !tell K2 pushed a minor change 15:54 Will do, FIQ! 15:54 made elemental attacks not affected by MC 15:55 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:56 grasshopper: that's fugu 15:57 which is letahl if the liver is not removed correctly (iirc) 15:57 hothraxxa, your fugu fu is strong 15:57 some organ anyway 15:57 soeaking of fish livers, there is a fish in Thailand (this part, Isaan) that locals tend to get liver cancer from 15:58 oh wait i know this one too 15:58 because they prepare the fish without proper cooking and they sometimes have liver fluke 15:58 also, don't eat a polar bear. Apparently you can get vitamin A poisoning. 15:58 as if you'd eat a whole polar bear. 15:58 ummm is it barracuda? 15:58 yeah, no polar bears in thailand anyway so that is a good bet 15:58 lucky 15:59 yeah, phew 15:59 :D 15:59 hothraxxa, honestly can't recall (but prob not barra) 15:59 no i remember now. barracuda give ciguatera 16:00 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 16:00 i had a brief acquaintance with a lady who was one of the world experts on poisonous things 16:01 she wrote a book about zombies, to make this relevant 16:01 oh, thank RNG for that I was getting worried 16:02 trying to recall her name 16:05 -!- Demo has joined #hardfought 16:05 server went down hard :( 16:06 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 16:07 <[Demo]> sure hope this works 16:24 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 ais523: while you're here, any good rumor ideas for thiefstones? 16:31 we're talking true rumors as opposed to oracularities, right? 16:31 came up with 4 true and 2 false, but more would be good :D 16:31 yes, single line rumors 16:31 "If a gray stone steals from you, steal back from it." 16:32 although that could probably be phrased better 16:32 <[Demo]> i like that its dumb and therefore great 16:46 hi 16:46 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 16:46 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 14:31 EST: Pushed a fix to a nethack4 bug in FIQHack 16:46 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 18:54 EST: pushed a minor change 16:47 <[Demo]> hi k2, how many users at a time is the eu usually seeing? 16:47 less than US 16:47 for now 16:48 but it's far from dead 16:48 during the tribute tournament it saw a fair amount of use 16:48 <[Demo]> no relative estimate? 16:48 always see some play 16:48 5000+ games in a month 16:48 but no Demo, I cant give you a real estimate right now. it just converted over to mirror hdf main a few days ago 16:49 <[Demo]> just trying to get an idea of how many ssh sessions and decently consuming user processes a t2.micro can maintain without starting to have issues 😛 16:49 i estimate about 18-20 concurrent users if they play nh3 only 16:50 best stress teset 16:50 if its all nh4 based, cut that number in half 16:50 is to play nethack4 16:50 it takes forever to load larger saves 16:50 and considering that 100 turns of dynahack caused issues in replaymode... 16:50 (and it is much faster than 4.3!) 16:57 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 625 points, T:2703, killed by a giant bat 16:57 [Demo] just remember, a t2.micro is just one cpu, so it would take is one runaway process to bring the instance to a crawl 16:58 *so all it would take 16:58 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 16:59 oh FIQ 16:59 i get a couple warnings during compile, which is weird as i dont recall ever really seeing warnings while compiling fiqhack 16:59 now at 146 16:59 nethack/src/status.c: In function ‘draw_classic_status’: 16:59 nethack/src/status.c:218:18: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘char *’ [-Wformat=] 16:59 sprintf(buf, " St:%-1d Dx:%-1d Co:%-1d In:%-1d Wi:%-1d Ch:%-1d", 16:59 ^ 16:59 nethack/src/status.c:218:18: warning: too many arguments for format [-Wformat-extra-args] 17:01 thanks 17:03 !tell K2 try now 17:03 Will do, FIQ! 17:03 lol 17:03 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 20:03 EST: try now 17:03 i'm here 17:04 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 17:18 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 17:28 jonadab/FIQ: either of you have a copy of the Bug Hall Of Fame? It strikes me that nethackwiki is the best place to put it 17:35 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 I don't have it 17:50 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:54 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased helping hand", on T:17985 17:55 <[Demo]> still funny 17:55 what does that wish create? is "helping hand" a dnh item? 17:55 or is it a parser abuse? 17:56 it's an arti 17:56 <[Demo]> its an artifact and a masturbation joke 17:56 grappling hook I think? 17:57 what does it do? an artifact grappling hook would probably need some pretty good extrinsics to be worth a wish 17:58 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:18011 17:58 <[Demo]> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_Artifacts#Helping_Hand 17:58 ais523 it's an arti grappling hook 17:58 curse resis while carried 17:59 also gives seraching when carried but that's not important 17:59 I have a decent asc kit right now though, so I don't need much 17:59 oh, "curse resist while carried" 17:59 ^ 17:59 also engraves as athame for wards 17:59 that's the sort of extrinsic that some players will really value but isn't actually all that necessary, at least in vanilla 18:00 it seems kind of like the equivalent of magicbane 18:00 ais523: this is dnethack 18:01 casters in dnethack have smite targeting in it 18:01 so curse resistance is more useful 18:01 FIQ: I know it's dnethack, that's why I clarified that my extrinsic usefulness scale was based on vanilla 18:01 helping hand is usually my first wish in dnh 18:01 hmm, that seems like a balance issue to me 18:01 <[Demo]> cant compete with the huggy shirt 18:01 if that thing is good enough to be a first wish 18:01 curse resistance is amazing in dnethack 18:01 ais523: it's not 18:01 normally my 3rd wish 18:01 it's not that crazy 18:01 <[Demo]> i never wish it 18:02 <[Demo]> its not that good 18:02 just I don't want to deal with curses 18:02 but I've got +6 cleaver, +6 tie-dye shirt of opness already 18:02 and dnh has much more of it 18:02 ^ 18:02 I think "curse resistance while carried" would be a good artifact design in a vanilla-ish variant, though 18:02 I don't need the gauntlets of OPness, because I have 25 dex/str innately 18:02 that reminds me 18:02 plus some extra stats that don't really matter 18:02 ais523: curse resis is bugged in vanilla 18:02 makes magicbane sort-of lose its usefulness 18:02 doesn't apply to fountains 18:02 maybe it could be a heart of ahriman buff? 18:02 not really a bug 18:02 just inconsistent 18:02 true 18:03 ais523: nice one 18:03 ais523: I already have blessed invoke to remove curse from the heart 18:03 I will keep it in mind 18:03 I just _hate_ cursing things 18:03 the magic marker is to geno L >_> 18:03 oh well, afk sleep 18:03 invoked levitation, luck, curse resist, and bonus damage if used as a sling bullet is starting to look like a pretty neat artifact 18:03 in dnh it's better :p 18:03 drain resis, reflection, MR, fire & pois resis when carried 18:03 #invoke to remove curses 18:03 base type ruby now, so no luck anymore 18:04 no more MR? 18:04 used to be MR, reflection and drain res 18:04 oh, is it changed? 18:04 oh well, bye 18:04 doesn't matter 18:04 I have intrinsic MR 18:04 see ya fiq 18:04 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 shield of the resolute heart", on T:18020 18:04 YES 18:04 +5 18:07 and no limited moon for me, whatever 18:07 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:18036 18:08 and the last wish still gave me no moon ok 18:08 ais523: I think Fourk already gives the Heart curse resistance? 18:08 I don't think anythign gives it curse resis 18:08 just the invoke to remove curse 18:08 Oh, that's right. 18:15 oh cool I have a +7 lightsaber too 18:15 yay for bones files: OP character death plus OP character = OP 18:24 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 18:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:28 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:45 [11hdf-us] [13dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 802594 points, T:19420, petrified by tasting cockatrice meat 18:45 that is why you don't keep wands in the same letter as your c corpse 18:46 meant to do EH, I did eH 18:46 *Eh, I did Eh 18:46 (I think) 18:46 somebody better be super damn happy about that bones files 18:46 <[Demo]> whered u die? 18:46 level above medusa's 18:46 in a gen store 18:46 !lastgame 18:46 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1513095948.dnh.txt 18:47 ok, it was W and w not h but yea 18:48 rikersan: did the cockatrice meat at least taste good? 18:54 not really 18:55 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed fixed scrolls of charging", on T:1894 18:59 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity and power", on T:1906 19:00 what's dragonhide mean? 19:00 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide water walking boots of speed", on T:1908 19:00 it's grunthack 19:00 burn resis? 19:01 dragonhide is an object material 19:01 that grants 9 (?) base AC 19:01 found an early WoW 19:01 0:3 19:01 <[Demo]> wow 19:01 your ascension kit should be basically all +0 dragonhide gear, with properties 19:02 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helm of telepathy and drain resistance", on T:1913 19:03 aosdict: no 19:03 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action and reflection", on T:1918 19:04 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:04 been awhile since i've played chaotic - whats a good item to wish for that grants MR? I cant wear a cloak of MR nor GDSM 19:07 hmm... cha ogre? 19:07 can you even get MR? 19:09 i dont know 19:09 not looking like it 19:10 converrrt. join the light side. 19:10 and then get Merlin to lend you his Mirror. 19:10 i'd need to finish my quest first 19:10 i was thinking along those lines 19:11 oh yeah, you're at like T:2000 19:11 so excalibur already exists in this game (bones) 19:11 well, come on, ascend in like the next 10 turns! haven't you heard about the TAS? :P 19:11 get quest artifact 19:12 prob sac for cleaver 19:12 hmm 19:12 no dont sac 19:12 i want to wish for the MKoT 19:12 you could wish for the Mirror now, assuming you can survive the blast, and then just not use it 19:12 until you can become lawful 19:12 true 19:12 good call 19:13 i have 2 wishes left 19:13 well, speaking of wishes... 19:13 just got a throne wish 19:13 \o/ 19:13 but you wouldn't be able to use MMoM and MKoT at the same time 19:13 that too... hrm 19:13 so lets say i have the MKoT 19:13 and am holding it 19:14 and i convert my alignment to lawful 19:14 does that make me drop the chaotic artifact? 19:15 but regardless, i will have to convert and use the mirror 19:15 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:16 i dont see anyway you can beat grunthack without MR 19:16 too many monsters have access to player level spells 19:17 If you want a better artifact, you could always permaconvert to neutral after the quest, and wish up a neutral MRtifact accordingly. 19:17 Though I'd make sure I knew there was a neutral altar somewhere. 19:17 yeah grunthack without MR seems unwinnable 19:18 even if you polyselfed to undead or hallucinated to fend off touches of death, there are still so many ways they could get you 19:18 all this talk of MR, I think I might wish for a cloak of MR. 19:18 from the wiki - It is technically possible to carry multiple artifacts of different alignments through careful use of alignment conversion or the helm of opposite alignment, but this is considered an advanced tactic and is rarely employed. 19:18 K2: alternately, polyself + CoMR/GDSM could work, if you're willing to take the associated risks. 19:19 But that probably requires more wishes than you have right now. 19:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:20 convert myself to neutral and go for the EotA or the EotO 19:21 err 19:21 not the EotA, not planning on spellcasting 19:21 leave room ofr "oLS 19:21 for 19:22 the PYEC 19:22 seems better choice 19:22 even if its just uncursed charging vs blessed 19:22 hmm 19:23 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 19:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 19:23 K2: Magicbane is probably the only way, without alignment or polyself shenanigans. 19:24 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 19:24 yeah 19:24 that i can wish for and use 19:24 just get blasted but oh well 19:25 lets look at skills for a barbarian real quick... 19:25 basic with dagger 19:25 skilled with longsword (excalibur is in game already) 19:25 two-weapon is basic 19:26 hmm.. so can you dual-wield artifacts in gh? I can't remember. 19:26 i'll just enchant both to +7 and call it a day 19:26 Tangles yup you can 19:26 Tangles: I forgot the most obvious answer :P 19:27 so that means my next 2 wishes will be for magicbane and the MKoT 19:27 you may not get both... choose wisely 19:27 later on i may trade out excalibur for a silver thirsty katana 19:27 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:27 going for MB first i need the MR 19:28 these will be artifacts #2 and 3 19:28 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:1919 19:29 ais523: did the dieroll bug (vorpal exploit) ever get fixed? 19:29 in vanilla, that is 19:29 <[Demo]> oh yeah that fun bug 19:29 not that I'm aware of 19:30 I like it too much to really want to be responsible for fixing it :-( 19:30 <[Demo]> heh 19:30 it might have been fixed by someone outside the devteam? IIRC it was found while a third-party patch was being made 19:30 it was found by barthouse, though I have no idea who that is 19:31 was helping paxed with something windows-specific 19:31 <[Demo]> must have been an epic find 19:31 damn i didnt get the key 19:31 ah well, cant complain 19:34 ais523: seems like the commit was made by barthouse himself 19:34 78756c9bd6ab760317b26f2d15f3e7a578149a12 19:35 makes sense 19:38 hah, the way I'm going to implement this gold golem thing, it should also work with a wielded thiefstone 19:55 with teleport control and a cursed scroll of teleport can I choose to port to Minetown from the main dungeon? 19:56 hmm dont think so 19:56 that's called branchporting 19:56 need the EotA to do that 20:03 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 20:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 20:04 would a balrog make a good pet? I found a figurine of one. I'm inclined to add it to my unihorn polypile. 20:05 they seem slow when I'm fighting them 20:05 speed them up with a wand of speed 20:05 they're decent - hit hard can take a beating can use weapons and they can summon in more help 20:08 how far through the game are you? setting off a figurine has a chance of backfiring 20:08 it shouldn't be too bad around Medusa depth (hopefully?) but towards the start of the game it can be a nightmare 20:16 YASI: gold golem shopkeepers. 20:18 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 20:19 !ping 20:19 Grasshopper: Pong! 20:20 balrogs make great pets (with aosdict's warnings) 20:20 I've ascended with my starting pet at least once, as a ranger, with my pet Balrog Sirius (a polydog) 20:20 what warnings 20:21 about game depth and chances of hostile blarog 20:21 balrog 20:21 ais, not aos 20:21 ais523 warnings aosdict sorry I should look closer 20:22 ? 20:22 oh, I see 20:22 I thought you were talking about compiler warnings 20:22 balrogs are both poison and fire resistant, which makes them great for surviving plane of fire 20:22 or the warning trinsic 20:22 took me three tries to parse that correctly 20:23 ais523, yeah well I can't even read your handle right lol 20:23 I need better glasses 20:24 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 20:26 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5633 20:27 OK, I'll hold onto it a bit longer. Getting close to medusa, but don't really need a pet right now. 20:28 Last ascension I did the reverse geno purple worms and tame. Had 4 of them slurping up everything in Astral! 20:28 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:29 loves me some purple rain 20:32 if you polymorph a pet, how long does the polymorph last? 20:34 for eva 20:34 <[Demo]> in a slashem based variant? 20:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:03 I just learned that in Fourk a pet silver dragon will actually use its breathweapon. Not sure this is a good thing or not 21:06 that's common to all NH4-based variants 21:06 although fiqhack is best at that sort of thing 21:15 I read that monsters will use poly wands. I encountered an orc earlier that poly'd himself into a lizard. 21:18 I see, thanks 21:18 they return in slashem variants 21:19 and so that makes pet chameleons useful in them 21:25 gold golem thiefstone teleporting works \o/ 21:25 now just need to do it to the player 21:27 YANI/EPI: vaults may be filled with 4 gold golems and no gold piles. (Inspired by the fact that I now have a closed off vault stuffed with 4 gold golems.) 21:28 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 21:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 21:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 21:39 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:8061 21:44 ugh, I think I'm going to have to augment goto_level just to account for you traveling there with the thiefstone. 21:50 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 21:56 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 22:01 [11hdf-us] [04gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed the master key of thievery", on T:9200 22:10 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 22:11 gnite all 22:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 22:43 [11hdf-us] [10fh] blah (mtf) (Bar Orc Fem Cha) were chosen to take lives for the glory of Set, on T:19615 23:14 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 23:38 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 23:40 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought