00:05 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07 [11hdf-us] [06nh4] NobbsVal (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 39347 points, T:3462, killed by a warg 00:08 !who 00:08 FIQ: [11hdf-us] Dieonce [06nh4] Nobbs [06nh4] 00:08 FIQ: [12hdf-eu] No current players 00:13 [12hdf-eu] [05dyn] William (root) (Con Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:24, killed by kicking an iron chain 00:14 ok... so dynahack is kind of working on eu. 00:16 err.. there is a chance you can break the chain by kicking it?... 00:17 I don't believe so 00:18 like they'd make escaping punishment that easy 00:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:57 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:20 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:55 YASI: wand of fishing. Gives a "what do you wish for?" prompt, but you can only input items that you dropped into water earlier, and it will make them appear at your feet. 02:19 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:57144 02:19 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57145 02:19 YASI: the game allows ranged weapons to be fired in . direction, and gives a mocking message if that kills you. 02:23 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57277 02:24 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57283 02:24 hmm 02:24 I think I can come up with a sensible method of handling one certain problem with the NH4 save system in public servers 02:25 the "segfault/crash of any other kind needs dev intervention" issue 02:25 create a file as a crash marker, and remove it upon exiting the process normally 02:26 and upon startup, if said file exists 02:26 allow the user to rewind one turn of his last modified save 02:26 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:57343 02:26 and if he chooses to do so, create a backup of the save for later examinations (this should also handle potential cases of cheating) 02:27 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27 EPI: to thwart "segfault scumming" (triggering a segfault when a +3 wish comes up +0 or similar), restoring the game after a segfault reduces max HP/Pw by 10 and autosaves. 02:28 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57405 02:29 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:57436 02:30 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:57458 02:30 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57484 02:31 the only issue I can think of is that it allows reproducible windowport-related crashes to enable cheating 02:32 but that should be resolved by the backup handling 02:32 since it would be simple to question said user why he did that 02:32 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2541982 points, T:57507, ascended 02:32 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nhdev/dumplog/1512815200.nhdev.txt 02:32 grats raisse ! 02:32 yay! 02:32 thanks! 02:33 raisse: Congraturation! A winner is you! Now ascend the archeologist in slex with ironman mode, please. :) (Just kidding!) 02:34 crazy idea: implement replaymode support in the windowport 02:34 (I will not actually do this) 02:35 -!- zxkuqyb_ has joined #hardfought 02:36 [11hdf-us] [06nh4] NobbsVal (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 53424 points, T:4771, killed by a leocrotta 02:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40 [12hdf-eu] [114k] Meltem the Farting Queen (AmyBSOD) (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1188 points, T:144, killed by an iron ball collision 02:40 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1004 points, T:1234, killed by a giant bat 02:41 yay, fourk allowed long character names at last :) 02:42 YASI for fourk: boulder-throwing skill, which only giants can use, but the limit for which depends on the player's role. Bonus YASI: roles that cannot be giants at all can enhance it to Expert, while those that can be giants are capped at Skilled or lower. 02:43 [11hdf-us] [06nh4] NobbsVal (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 25552 points, T:639, killed by a gnome lord 02:44 [12hdf-eu] [05dyn] FIQ (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1640 points, T:1870, killed by a killer bee 02:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:48 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 263 points, T:731, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 02:51 !rng @role 02:51 !role 02:51 raisse: unnethack rogue 02:51 !role nd 02:51 raisse: archeologist 02:51 lol no 02:51 !role nd 02:51 raisse: rogue 02:51 don't wanna :-/ 02:55 LarienTelrunya: "shot him/herself in the foot" when firing at . 02:55 haha, that would work 02:55 now I want to test what happens when firing something in > direction, I know that you hit yourself with < but never bothered checking the other one 02:56 hmm, just says "an arrow hits the floor" 02:56 boring 02:56 YASI: when firing a bow in > direction, "an arrow hits the floor" can occasionally be replaced with "an arrow misses the floor", and then it will glitch through to the level below. 03:01 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 643 points, T:1028, killed by a little dog 03:01 hey, I thought I'd set mintc 03:01 to something higher than 1000 03:02 !setmintc 10000 03:02 raisse: Min reported turncount for raisse set to 10000 03:05 EPI: when the game makes a random gravestone on a dungeon level, it is sometimes read directly from the high-score list and whatever monster killed the late player is placed nearby in awake, angry form. 03:05 funny you should mention that 03:06 was just thinking about the dyna save system and why it's so broken 03:06 and was reminded of the one consistent nitrohack breakage I had 03:06 the fact that if the highscore file is different 03:06 the save will desync 03:07 why the save? 03:07 didn't dyna and related variants fix that by hardwiring the highscore file at game start or something, i.e. writing it into the savegame file? 03:07 not sure what you mean with that question 03:07 but the thing is 03:07 the highscore data it uses isn't saved into the save upon use 03:07 (which is somewhat reasonable, it could be rather large) 03:08 so playbacking will use the current highscore 03:08 which can be different 03:08 LarienTelrunya: thing is 03:08 it didn't! 03:08 not even NH4.3 does this, but it's less fatal 03:08 I should fix that at some point 03:08 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 385 points, T:2147, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 03:08 LarienTelrunya: I was reminded of this because I remember having to fix Jonathanhanes's nitrohack save once 03:09 and was only able to restore up to Valley 03:09 Tangles: doesn't !setmintc work for the eu server? 03:09 and just realized why -- I forgot about that little issue 03:09 at the time 03:09 but IIRC the code only uses the top 100 scores from the file, right? saving those entries into the savegame file shouldn't take up that much space ;) 03:09 the code that makes random statues of deceased players I mean 03:09 I know that because I manually increased it to top 10000 for slex :D 03:13 raisse: It's supposed to. 03:13 hm 03:13 well, it doesn't 03:14 I wonder why daniel_t used ≾ for branch stairs 03:14 I had forgotten about that lol 03:14 it *told* me it had set mintc to 10000 and still reported me at 2147 03:15 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 118 points, T:698, killed by a Kop Sergeant 03:15 see? 03:15 hm 03:16 actually I wonder if this is why dynahack crashes tend to fail to restore in general if they're late 03:16 because of scoreboard changes 03:16 Yes I can see that it doesn't/ 03:17 I am looking at it. 03:20 Ok I know why it doesn't work. I'll have it fixed soon. 03:20 \o/ 03:21 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1097 points, T:1942, killed by an iguana 03:21 hm 03:21 why exactly is dynahack creating a 22KB line on each time you fire it up again 03:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:26 'You begin praying to Crom. You are surrounded by a shimmering light. You hear a gurgling noise. You finish your prayer. You feel that Crom is well pleased. Your shield of reflection glows amber. The voice of Crom rings out: "Hark, mortal!" "To enter the castle, thou must play the right tune!' 03:26 What? You mean that gurgling noise? How do I play that on a tonal instrument? 03:28 try to blow a horn while confused? 03:28 or underwater 03:28 sounds like gargling mouthwash to me 03:28 at least Crom uncursed your shield! 03:29 Maybe that's what it sounds like if you try to cross the moat without lowering the drawbridge? 03:29 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 646 points, T:1506, killed by a gnome 03:30 I guess that is the future of divine music now that grunge is well and truly dead 03:30 I just went and did the castle anyway after that (poly-xorn to grab the WoW before any L turn up and kill me (no MR)) 03:31 Before this I had found poly scrolls... 2 actually... cursed them both and summoned some gray dragons... twice... 8 dragons, no scales 03:32 so my first wish was for a magic marker - and 3 out of 6 dragons dropped scales that time 03:33 raisse, yes I finally got reflection from Perseus! 03:33 no that it did him much good 03:33 not 03:37 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 329 points, T:856, killed by a homunculus 03:37 sleeping on the job? 03:40 -!- firemonkey has joined #hardfought 03:42 YASI: if you #sit on an altar and a sentient hostile monster is nearby, it can then sacrifice you ADOM-like and instakill you. 03:56 -!- Beholder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56 -!- Beholder has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 03:56 !setmintc 03:57 oh good. I broke it completely. 03:57 EPI: if a sacrifice is "consumed in a burst of flame", it actually acts like a scroll of fire was just read on the altar, meaning that your stuff can burn and you will lose HP. 03:57 lol 03:57 (not the EPI but the breaking of !setmintc) 03:57 I don't really have a test environment set up for this stuff 03:59 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 I think this channel is the test environment 04:00 if only you knew.... 04:00 !setmintc 1000 04:00 Tangles: Min reported turncount for tangles set to 1000 04:00 It half works. 04:00 !setmintc 04:00 Tangles: Min reported turncount for tangles removed. 04:00 well that's just weird. 04:01 !setmintc 04:01 hmmm I guess it doesn't report if it doesn't find anything to remove. 04:01 it makes sense 04:01 !setmintc 1000 04:01 Tangles: Min reported turncount for tangles set to 1000 04:01 ok so... 04:02 !setmintc 10000 04:02 raisse: Min reported turncount for raisse set to 10000 04:02 I'll go kill my current priestess 04:02 awwwww 04:02 don't have fun spells anyway 04:03 okay, that seems to work 04:03 thanks Tangles! 04:04 !setmintc 1 04:04 Grasshopper: Min reported turncount for grasshopper set to 1 04:04 Did I get killed by a black pudding in gh? 04:04 nobody knows :P 04:04 it'll be our little secret 04:05 !setmintc 04:05 Tangles: Min reported turncount for tangles removed. 04:05 maximum spam! 04:05 Wham, spam, thank you ham! 04:07 if my posting is a bit sillier than usual then blame the whiskey shots I had with the builder earlier 04:07 !setminwhiskeycount 5 04:07 that should stop me from posting if I've had too many 04:07 [12hdf-eu] [04gh] Tangles (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 36 points, T:143, killed by kicking a statue of a jackal 04:08 Isn't your building project finished yet? 04:08 elenmirie, we are building a jetty 04:08 ah! 04:08 :) 04:08 cool. that works :) 04:08 and there is a plan for a swimming pool next year, depends if we find the right contractors/have the cash $$$ 04:09 nice! 04:09 frankly the swimming pool might be a good earner for us, if teaching works out 04:10 it's not an expense, it's an investment... 04:10 exactly! 04:10 Grasshopper: don't you need !setmaxwhiskeycount for that? 04:11 raisse, in fact it is a !setminwhiskeycount 04:11 so if you've had more than 5, you 04:11 are allowed to post silly stuff? 04:11 no, you need to have more than 5 in order to properly participate in the planning 04:12 but yes, no drunk people teaching in the pool please 04:12 -!- zxkuqyb_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:12 ah, otherwise you're not being taken seriously? 04:12 (that includes me) 04:12 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 04:13 !setmintc 9999 04:13 zxkuqyb: Min reported turncount for zxkuqyb set to 9999 04:13 yes, well, I try not to take things too seriously as that can create problems 04:13 just seriously enough 04:14 !setmaxwhiskeycount 6 04:15 no fewer than 5, no more than 6, seems sensible 04:15 like that sweet-zone within which drunk people can actually play pool 04:16 or speak foreign languages 04:17 (this works for me because I usually know a language much better than I think and if I have fewer inhibitions I can just use all of my skill) 04:18 I sort of eroded the threshold for German without any alcohol by having discussions (and disagreements) at a trade fair 04:18 raisse, I learn (or consolidate) a lot of Thai while getting drunk with the workers 04:22 I also learned a lot of Thai from things like hospital visit (as discussed elsewhere) 04:27 ah, hello Mr/Ms Lich, aren't I glad I have GDSM now 04:35 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1853 points, T:2719, killed by a killer bee 04:42 tangled spam, yikes :P 04:42 oh sorry way on backscroll 04:43 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:45 "You begin praying to Crom. You are surrounded by a shimmering light. You finish your prayer. You feel that Crom is well pleased. You hear a divine music... It sounds like a gurgling noise." 04:45 "You begin praying to Yog-Sothoth." 04:45 Actually it was "ACBEB", but maybe that sounds a bit gurgle-ish 04:46 just saying that name would feel like tripping over 04:55 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 Grayswandir", on T:2165 04:56 that must be so satisfying to get a wish this early 04:57 leading to a classic YASD! viz: 04:57 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] elenmirie (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1005 points, T:2675, killed by touching Grayswandir 04:57 dang 04:57 yeah 04:57 rotfl 04:58 I was being beaten up by some ants 04:58 thought they were all gone and went back to digging 04:58 you probably wouldn't have had enough saber skill to hit anything, anyway 04:58 no I killed some :) 04:58 it was switching weapons that did me in 04:58 I kinda was surprised by you not wishing for an armor 04:59 hm 04:59 I still have no idea as to why part of dynahack's logo is covered by pressing load game 04:59 makes no sense 04:59 nitrohack doesn't have this problem 04:59 morning 04:59 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-12-11 01:59 EST: how does whereis even work? also I'd probably have to add like a ton of special cases for slex's nasty traps so players can't make the game leak information :D 04:59 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-12-11 02:00 EST: well I mean "how does it even work code-wise", i.e. is there a commit that enables it? 05:00 oh, well, time to do some work 05:00 nooooo 05:00 :) 05:03 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 05:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:12 [12hdf-eu] [04gh] k2 (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 50 points, T:207, killed by an iguana 05:12 \o/ 05:12 wooo Tangles! 05:18 [11hdf-us] [07nd] mahershalal (Val Hum Fem Neu), 401 points, T:1190, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wererat, while praying 05:22 !who 05:22 K2: [11hdf-us] hothraxxa [05dyn] Zxkuqyb [13dnh] Tangles [13dnh] 05:22 K2: [12hdf-eu] k2 [05dyn] Raisse [07nd] 05:23 need to setup rc config import for dynahack 05:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:33 ok thats working 05:33 so, EU server is completely mirroring hdf-us now for variants 05:34 !setmintc 200 05:34 K2: Min reported turncount for k2 set to 200 05:34 !players 05:34 K2: [11hdf-us] hothraxxa [05dyn] Zxkuqyb [13dnh] Tangles [13dnh] 05:34 K2: [12hdf-eu] Raisse [07nd] k2 [11zapm] 05:35 zapm :P 05:35 does that work without in-game prompt again?! 05:37 yes 05:38 and its an easter egg 05:38 (not on the menu) 05:38 dang, now I wanna play zapm 05:41 FIQ: fixed the EU dgl menu column spacing hah 05:42 thank 05:42 s 05:42 it was bugging me 05:42 mmm, now i need to setup rcedit so it works on eu server for all the nh3 variants 05:42 yeah me as well once i noticed it 05:44 K2: I fear for the load speed of NH4 saves on the eu server 05:44 replaying dynahack is slow after merely 200 turns, as testing 05:44 and dynahack's stuff is, while not as fast as nitrohack, much faster than nethack4 05:46 this doesn't just concern replaymode, or it would be easy to solve (just disable it on that server) 05:47 but loading NH4 saves in general 05:58 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 06:05 yup its a concern 06:05 its prob ok for now 06:05 but before junethack i'll need to upgrade the aws instance 06:06 its on an ssd so that's not the bottleneck 06:06 its that a t2.micro is only 1 cpu with less than 1GB ram 06:07 going to a t2.medium will bring it up to 2 cpus and 4GB ram 06:07 which should be sufficient 06:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:13 what is Br: stat in dNetHack? 06:17 breath 06:17 huh 06:18 uh oh my bot broke 06:18 Demo: rip 06:18 ive been talking to myself 06:18 its still pulling in messages but failing to forward them and i have no idea why 06:18 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:19 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 06:20 <[Demo]> anyway yeah breath is constitution based, cant remember what number it divides it by but its something 06:25 FIQ https://i.imgur.com/AF71DMO.png :U 06:35 zxkuqyb: upon entering a new level? 06:35 upon dropping an item 06:35 hm 06:35 that's bad 06:35 that I picked up a couple of turns ago 06:36 K2: mind giving me zxkuqyb's save? 06:36 zxkuqyb: it is probably harmless, but needs to be checked regardless 06:36 fuck I'm sorry I restored it 06:36 as the game suggested 06:36 :/ 06:36 drop it again 06:37 drops okay 06:37 hm ok 06:37 K2: I don't need the save anymore 06:37 what did you drop? 06:37 so I can reproduce once the game is over 06:38 unID'd cloak of displacement 06:38 ok 06:38 that is probably enough for me to know what you did 06:38 found on lvl1, looked liked ornamental cope 06:38 ok 06:38 so on T:32 06:38 drop an ornamental cope 06:38 got it 06:38 or possibly T:33 06:40 feel free to tell me when the game is over 06:40 once you ascend 06:40 or die 06:42 https://i.imgur.com/g4eOEkf.png happend again. I think dropping an item wasn't the cause. moving from it was 06:42 this time I was just walking along the tunnel 06:43 what do you mean 06:43 what exactly did you do 06:44 exactly I was going from right to left 06:45 should I press Q? 06:45 you can 06:45 !tell K2 need zxkuqyb's save if you don't mind 06:45 Will do, FIQ! 06:45 displacement was probably unrelated 06:46 probably something happening on the level 06:47 "K2 I need zxkuqyb's save" "K2 I don't need it anymore" "jk I actually do need it this time" 06:47 you hush 06:48 aosdict: this would be more convenient if I could grab stack traces/etc myself :P 06:58 FIQ: incidentally, how different' is NH4's object/monster migration system from NH3's? 06:59 I'd like to know if someone already came up with the refactor I thought of yesterday :P 07:05 aosdict: monster migration works the same 07:05 objects don't migrate anymore, they are instead placed directly at their destination 07:05 this was infamously buggy, the refactor was made by daniel_t 07:05 well, it'd be nice if *I* could place objects directly at the destination. 07:06 oh well 07:06 I don't think doing this is possible in NH3 07:06 because NH3 only has the current level in memory 07:06 yeah I have to augment the migration code 07:06 the more I tinker with things, the more refactors I want to do just to improve the code 07:07 but I have not much incentive to do them, since I'd be the only person actually using them 07:10 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 07:15 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 07:15 [11hdf-us] [04gh] Ssach (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 149 points, T:160, killed by a dwarf 07:18 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:19 [11hdf-us] [114k] Joe (Ssach) (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 450 points, T:217, killed by a jackal 07:19 hothraxxa: how's dyn 07:19 tough on healers 07:20 i also keep getting caught out by his nerfs 07:20 read that as "dyin'" 07:20 eg my first wish was for 2 blessed scrolls of charging. oops 07:20 fucking 1:x wands 07:21 did you kill the wand 07:21 basically 07:21 while playing dynahack 07:21 and pissed on its grave 07:21 think of it as un 07:22 but without sheol 07:22 which i also haven't played much 07:22 ahh 07:23 it's my own fault. i forget to check the wiki 07:23 the other nerf i got surprised with is to genocide 07:23 ahh 07:23 the sacred rule 0 07:23 always consult the wiki first 07:23 well the heat of battle etc etc 07:24 or in fourk's case, always consult the changelog first 07:25 seems to me he really screwed over healers with the armour skill. levels are a lot tougher but healers... aren't 07:25 i have ydsm now 07:25 well grieve 07:32 [12hdf-eu] [07nd] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3218 07:36 !tell ais523 YASI addition to thiefstones: you can chuck one at a gold golem and it will levelport the golem to the keyed level 07:36 Will do, aosdict! 08:11 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:11 Beholder: messages? 08:11 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-11 10:36 EST: YASI addition to thiefstones: you can chuck one at a gold golem and it will levelport the golem to the keyed level 08:12 aosdict: I'm not 100% opposed to that :-) 08:26 hm, thiefstone horizontal teleporting is not merging gold pieces 08:26 I would think place_object did that 08:28 ais523: the existing proposed thiefstone mechanics aren't entirely consistent 08:29 currently, it will do a "baleful teleport" in two cases 08:29 when you don't know that it's a thiefstone, or when it's cursed 08:30 but this leads to weird things like you wish for a thiefstone without knowing what thiefstones look like, and you can use it perfectly fine without knowing that it is a thiefstone 08:31 baleful? 08:31 best thing I could think of to describe it 08:32 like, baleful polymorph 08:32 except thiefstones are in the teleporting business 08:32 a teleport of items that the player doesn't want to happen 08:35 ais523: perhaps thiefstones could always generate cursed, but that has bad strategy interactions with loadstones and also means they're not useful to an early game character who can't remove the curse 08:35 well I suppose the strategy interactions with loadstones aren't that bad, assuming you can kick-test 08:36 YANI: kicking an object of under a certain weight into the wall has the chance to bounce off the wall instead of just "Thump!"ing. 08:37 erm, doesn't have a chance to bounce off the wall, always bounces off the wall. 08:37 Unless, you know, it breaks. 08:47 <[Demo]> so you can bounce arrows off the walls? 08:47 If you kick them, I suppose, yes. 08:47 <[Demo]> Oh kicking 08:48 Maybe just allow this for GEM_CLASS. 08:49 ais523: so 08:49 so you think this seems reasonable 08:49 *do 08:49 in a public server environment 08:50 in case the game didn't exit correctly during last run 08:50 allow the user to rewind a single game turn in his save, which also creates a backup and notifies me about it? 08:51 unless one already exists for the given game 08:51 this should allow 1) people to continue games that segfault, if doing something different prevents it, and 2) avoid cheating by 'logging' such rewinds 08:52 (meaning that, for example, a windowport crash, doesn't allow cheating since it would notify me/server admins 08:52 ) 08:53 aosdict: would be cool if you could port monsters in general by throwing a thiefstone at it 08:54 but that gets into Banishment territory 08:54 yeah it seems kind of overpowered 08:55 the reason it's not for gold golems is a) the stone would need to be blessed in order to teleport gold, 2) you lose the stone until you return to its location, 3) gold golems aren't THAT threatening 08:55 a, 2, 3 08:55 <[Demo]> how do thiefstones and endgame interact? 08:55 aosdict: polyself into gold golem 08:55 throw a thiefstone < 08:55 use it as a portal 08:55