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That's either Adeon-level speedrunning, or else a complete abandonment of any pretense of sleeping at night. 04:41 Or parked games. 04:41 Could be that, I suppose. 04:41 parked games I'd say 04:41 still impressive 04:41 also, 15 04:41 :P 04:41 Yeah. 04:41 I've spent all yesterday just to get to Gehennom in DynaHack and I'm happy with what I've got 04:41 and even if you were up 24h 04:41 you'd have to consistently almost match adeon 04:41 for 15 games 04:42 dynahack is sloooow 04:42 if it wasn't parked games 04:42 hothraxxa: why? 04:42 takes forever to train weapons 04:42 only from unskilled I think 04:42 you train all of them? 04:42 due to 25% miss 04:42 also i'm a healer. healers are severely handicapped in dynahack 04:43 how? 04:43 fiq: no it's true for all levels 04:43 hm ok 04:43 YASI: autoenhance option. Automatically enhances your skills when you are eligible to enhance them. 04:43 healers are restricted in armor 04:43 ah 04:43 I thought healers are a challenge in general 04:43 they are 04:44 anyway, no i don't train all weapons but healers have really limited options 04:44 unti you get the staff you're basically doing powderpuff damage 04:44 There's crysknife 04:44 hothraxxa: unihorn? 04:44 But yeah. 04:44 Or yes, unicorn horn. 04:44 or crysknife yes 04:44 fiq: that's my normal path yes 04:45 no crysknife 04:45 this time i didn't use the unihorn due to magicbane 04:45 ahh 04:46 crysknife sucks 04:46 you have to train knife, thenif you drop it...oops 04:46 Well, yes, there's that. 04:46 You don't want to eat random tins while wielding a crysknife. 04:46 Does it revert if a nymph steals it? That would suuuuuuck. 04:46 it does 04:46 don't know 04:47 not upon stealing itself 04:47 but when dropped 04:47 after death 04:47 ah when you kill her 04:47 Ah, so when you kill her. I see. 04:47 if you want to use a crysknife seriously 04:47 Can you polynymph and steal it back? 04:47 you really ought to fix it 04:47 yes 04:47 Wait, does it NOT revert if fixed? 04:47 it's not worth the trouble 04:47 a fixed crysknife only reverts 10% of the time 04:48 I've considered making it 0% 04:48 there is no reason it has to be so annoying to use 04:48 I support making that 0%. 04:48 Giving the player a way to prevent disaster but having it fail 10% of the time is just mean. 04:49 when was nethack ever not mean? 04:49 Heh. 04:50 yo fall into a spiked pit. the spikes were poisoned! you die... 04:50 Well, I mean, "It only happens 10% of the time" sounds like a SlashEM Extended developer's argument for implementing an EPI. 04:50 because it is 04:50 hothraxxa: Yes, and several variants have done various things to that. 04:50 all her ideas are like that 04:50 balancing evilness by making it rare 04:51 but making a lot of them 04:51 FIQ: NOt _all_. She also did pokedex. 04:51 so that you're bound to be hit by at least one 04:51 Which is horribly named, but a useful feature. 04:51 pokedex is just unnethackplus' monster lookup 04:51 Ah. 04:51 but renamed into the pokedex 04:51 Didn't realize it came from Un+ 04:51 it is the same thing my monster lookup was inspired by 04:52 dynahack has it too, based on un+ 04:52 I see. 04:52 Here I thought you were inspired by slex. 04:52 Silly jonadab. 04:52 no 04:52 then I would have mentioned it 04:52 because slex having a good feature is cool 04:52 due to it being so novel 05:01 -!- Tangles is now known as BeerHolder 05:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [-o BeerHolder] by ChanServ 05:07 -!- BeerHolder is now known as Tangles 05:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:40 -!- Demo_ has joined #hardfought 05:40 -!- Demo_ has quit [Client Quit] 05:42 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42 <[Demo]> is nao dead these days? 05:44 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:48 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:49 !tell ais523 why is A_BLINK not implemented in uncursed? 05:49 Will do, FIQ! 05:51 -!- Demo has joined #hardfought 05:55 [07nd] Demo (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2 06:03 <[Demo]> hmm having a problem, getting Error: Cannot use percent with 'hitpoints-max'. cause by this line OPTION=hilite_status: hitpoints-max/100%/green/green in 3.6.1 06:06 hitpoints can be expressed as a percentage of hitpoints-max, but hitpoints-max is just a number. 06:06 I'm guessing that's why. 06:06 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:07 Beholder: messages? 06:07 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-10 08:49 EST: why is A_BLINK not implemented in uncursed? 06:07 FIQ: a) it's unreliable (some terminals interpret it as background color); b) it's really annoying; c) it's fairly easy to simulate from outside the terminal if you really want it 06:07 <[Demo]> im not sure how that configuration got there, i assume its a default by k2? 06:08 I'm considering making libuncursed2 capable of simulating blink but it might be better to discourage it and persuade people not to :-) 06:08 ais523: I was going to simulate blink, yes 06:08 [Demo]: yeah it could be. 06:08 statuscolors/statushilites and menucolors support &blink as an attribute 06:08 which is where it'd be used 06:08 is there a good reason for that? :-D 06:09 meh 06:09 [Demo]: also some statushilites options changed recently, so maybe it worked before... 06:09 there are actually two defined blink states in the relevant standards, fast blink and slow blink 06:09 just implement a &blink color pair set 06:09 most terminals only implement one though 06:09 and make refreshes account for it 06:10 [Demo]: I'm guessing you want an up/down highlighting on that value. 06:10 the common misinterpretation of "blink" as "bold background" might make sense, but uncursed 1 can't bold backgrounds either (because they can get misinterpreted as blink…) 06:10 s/an// 06:10 unless uncursed intends to stand in my way by making changing color pairs not actually change the color set unless I redraw it 06:10 and not merely just refresh the window 06:11 if you change color pairs then the set color will change too 06:11 that's intentional and I used quite a bit of code making that work 06:11 cool 06:11 that means less work for me regarding mainframe 06:11 libuncursed2 will have a similar feature (a color palette letting you set colors indirectly) 06:11 that's how the main frame coloring works in NH4 06:12 since I only have to redraw the frame from scratch in case a resize happens 06:13 ais523: regarding the bold + background color thing 06:13 does that mean that there is no way to differ between a minotaur and fire giant pet? 06:13 in libuncursed 06:14 FIQ: what's the difference without a background? the same difference should work with 06:14 I'm thinking of "bolding" background and foreground separately here 06:14 yellow + reverse vs brown + reverse 06:14 would be the same in libuncursed, right? 06:15 they're often the same in curses, nethack-tty, and the like too 06:15 konsole's handling of this is somewhat sane, allthough not perfect 06:15 as is gnome-terminal 06:15 color-wise 06:15 gnome-terminal's is better but can't be simulated realibly 06:15 you can still tell them apart by the font used for the H 06:15 konsole's can 06:15 konsole reverses yellow to brown + darkgray 06:15 (due to bold black -> darkgray) 06:15 oh, that's believable 06:16 and is a natural consequence of 8-bit color handing 06:16 if you treat inverse as swapping red/green/blue but /not/ intensity 06:16 gnome-terminal does an actual color reverse 06:16 but that can't be simulated without 8bit color 06:16 but this only works because the background is being interpreted as black-the-color rather than as a background that happens to be black 06:16 ais523: well my point is 06:16 4bit color is enough, it's just that some terminals have only 3 06:16 you can simulate this 06:16 from libuncursed's POV 06:17 which is IMO more satisfactory than losing information 06:17 yes, it's best to simulate inverse as swapping red/green/blue but not intensity, if you want to keep colors distinct 06:18 also 06:19 pline stuff is significantly more annoying than I was expecting 06:19 the paging itself isn't too hard 06:19 but handling resizing is awkward 06:19 ideally what you want to do is to ensure that in no circumstances are messages "lost" (gone past without dismissing the --More--) 06:20 meaning that if you have 5 new messages on screen 06:20 that you haven't seen 06:20 and then make thet erminal smaller 06:20 you may end up with the --More-- earlier than it was previously 06:20 and vice versa 06:20 *terminal 06:22 <[Demo]> how the hell do u eat a blue jelly without taking cold damage? 06:22 you... don't take cold damage 06:23 from eating it 06:23 <[Demo]> right 06:23 <[Demo]> would make sense if things with cold attacks based on their body would dmg u when you ate them like poisonous or acidic things if you didn't have cold resistance 06:24 anyone else hear what happened with StatueSurfer the other day? Almost ascended (splatted on Fire) without ever learning you can open a container directly in your inventory. 06:24 So every time they wanted something, they dropped their bag and #looted. 06:24 <[Demo]> jesus, wow 06:25 <[Demo]> new conduct? 06:30 [10fh] Zee (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 19655 points, T:650, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:32 [07nd] Demo (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:5353 06:33 <[Demo]> mars ur dumb 06:35 aosdict: in dnethack, you do take cold damage from eating blue jelly 06:35 Hmm, is there a way to look up branch name and level just from the level number? 06:35 yes 06:36 iterate the level list 06:36 look at overview code 06:36 in dungeon.c 06:37 Yeah, but that's inefficient. I have a d_level* available which will get me branch number and level within that branch. 06:37 so what is the problem? 06:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:37 Well I guess the problem is how to transform branch number into branch name. 06:39 Which seems like I should be able to do dungeons[dnum].dname 06:39 you can use stuff like In_mines 06:40 FIQ: this is for thief stones 06:40 you want a thief stone to be able to tell you it's keyed to a Mines level 06:40 even if you're not there 06:40 Well then, I guess the larger issue is 06:41 you and ais both advised storing the keyed level in a reused schar 06:41 yes 06:41 but I need to use that single number to look up the corresponding d_level struct 06:41 unless you want to fiddle with oextra 06:41 in order to get the branch and level info 06:42 the dungeon code is one of the other parts of the code I've almost never looked at :) 06:42 the dungeon code is kinda messy 06:42 anyway I suggest you store level ID 06:44 yeah but I feel like there is some array out there where I can look up the proper d_level just using the level ID 06:44 actually 06:44 I can't help you at all I think 06:44 because NH3 handles levels differently 06:44 and I only know what NH4 does 06:46 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 06:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:47 aosdict: when a monster migrates in NH4, it stores a z and dnum at muxy (coordinates for it thinking where the player is) 06:47 so you need to store 4 coordinates, clearly 06:47 dnum, z, x, y 06:48 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:48 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:49 aosdict: actually, branchporting is probably closest to what you want to do 06:49 in terms of "how do I figure out level from dnum/z" 06:49 I'm trying to do the other way around 06:49 iterate dungeons, figure out top/bottom level 06:49 and iterate levels 06:49 until you have the proper level pointer 06:50 aosdict: figuring out dnum/z from level? that's trivial 06:50 level.z 06:50 is a d_level struct with dnum/z 06:52 though that would work, it would require associating a level pointer with the object 06:53 yes, you want to store dnum/z 06:53 no pointer shenanigans 06:53 easier that way 06:54 well, there are still pointer shenanigans assuming you have to iterate through the levels in a dungeon 06:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:02 FIQ: wait, so if dungeons are only stored through pointers 07:03 why is there a 127 limit across the entire game 07:03 aosdict: whenever the game needs to refer to a level in a non-pointery way, it uses z 07:03 which is an xchar 07:03 or could one do something like the main branch goes down to DL90 and the Mines also go down to DL90 07:03 without breaking stuff 07:04 I can't answer that 07:04 ais523: do you know the answer to this? 07:04 FIQ: yes, but that seems like it would only localize the 127-level limit to a single branch 07:04 -!- Beholder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 FIQ: actually there are three representations of levels: 07:04 a) a level pointer, which is a pointer 07:04 b) a branch number and level number pair, which is what (say) u.uz is 07:04 -!- Beholder has joined #hardfought 07:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 07:04 c) a ledger number, which is a single 8-bit integer 07:05 ledger numbers are IIRC mostly used in the save system 07:05 but they're the first sticking point you encounter if you try to add lots of extra levels 07:05 ah right 07:05 ledger number 07:05 I forgot about that thing 07:05 that is probably what aosdict wants to use to store thiefstone level 07:05 seems like I could use the ledger system then 07:05 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Demo (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2880 points, T:8108, killed by a bolt of cold 07:05 yeah, ledger_to_dnum and ledger_to_dlev exist 07:06 <[Demo]> hmm 07:06 <[Demo]> not sure if i should blame myself 07:06 [hdf-us] is new 07:06 <[Demo]> yeah definitely should 07:07 so the ledger system can be used to freely switch between dlevel structs and xchars 07:07 !who 07:07 K2: [11hdf-us] Zxkuqyb [05dyn] k2 [15nh] Demo [07nd] 07:07 K2: [12hdf-eu] k2 [04gh] Raisse [07nd] elenmirie [07nd] 07:07 hah the lines match 07:07 what are the odds 07:08 nice :) 07:08 <[Demo]> whoa theres a eu server now? 07:08 yes 07:09 and very zippy it is, too! 07:09 provided you're in europe :-) 07:09 [hdf-au] [irl] Tangles (Hac Hum Mal Cha), 292851 points, T:12153, killed by a distributed system 07:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 07:10 lol aosdict 07:10 <[Demo]> wait is that an australia server too? 07:10 <[Demo]> how many hf servers are there now? 07:10 <[Demo]> oh 07:10 <[Demo]> damn bot 07:10 the march to world domination continues... 07:10 I don't know if the au server is still active 07:10 it was in November 07:11 -!- Beholder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- Beholder has joined #hardfought 07:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 07:12 AU server is down for now 07:13 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Demo (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 213 points, T:702, killed by a coyote 07:16 I wish C build systems were smart enough to figure out I only changed some comments in obj.h and there's no need for a full rebuild 07:17 debugging symbols might change as a result 07:20 <[Demo]> i know if im hungry i pay more for food but if im satiated do i pay less? 07:21 no 07:36 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Demo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "hi", on T:4053 07:50 [11hdf-us] [07nd] Demo (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5842 07:51 <[Demo]> dumb gods finally getting it right 07:51 huh, some but not all thiefstones are getting a ledger number of 0 and panicking 07:51 lovely 07:59 maybe using spe is not a great idea? could spe conceivably get set to 0 by some other process? 08:00 oh, good example: cancelling 08:00 not that I canceled anything 08:00 but this means that the code should at least support cancelled thief stones 08:04 right 08:05 just have to find what is setting it to 0 then 08:16 Does farlook provide any way to show the coordinates under the cursor? Based on its help page, it doesn't seem like it. 08:17 -!- Beholder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17 -!- Beholder has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 08:17 if you select the option for all onjects on the map, you get coordinates 08:17 or all mosnters 08:17 but not under the cursor 08:18 no. i think some variants have that 08:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:33 <[Demo]> man i feel stupid 08:34 <[Demo]> purple worm on oracle level didnt trigger me to realize that there was a polytrap 08:34 <[Demo]> thought it was somehow maybe shrieker related 08:37 urgh 08:38 I feel like this might be some actual sort of memory corruption 08:38 since the first 3 thief stone wishes are fine 08:38 but then the next one panics 08:38 standing in one spot, doing nothing else 08:39 <[Demo]> what do they even do? 08:39 did I not link it yesterday? 08:39 <[Demo]> oh you might have i probably wasnt here 08:40 oh that was StatueSurfer 08:40 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/YANI/IRC_archive#Thief_stones 08:41 <[Demo]> im confused slightly but it seems useful for stealing stuff indeed 08:43 it's for stashing 08:43 I don't get the name 08:44 but otherwise it's a good idea 08:44 ais523: decided to make the actual object name "thiefstone" with no space, makes it a lot less ambiguous when using it in the rest of the code 08:45 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:45 I'm OK with that, although I'm surprised it makes that much of a difference 08:45 well, if it had a space, I believe the oname would be THIEF 08:45 because of how gray stones work 08:46 hooray for makedefs 08:46 oh, makedefs being stupid again? 08:46 and I ran into wish parser woes yesterday with Thief being a Rogue rank title... 08:46 you would wish for a thief stone and get a rock 08:46 :D 08:46 this reminded me of dtsund's wish proposal 08:47 I should look into implementing it 08:47 not sure if it was dtsund's 08:47 but someone 08:47 https://roguelikes.live/nh4-bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=394 08:47 afk 08:50 [11hdf-us] [10fh] Estelle (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 44777 points, T:9107, killed by a Ms. Konosja, the shopkeeper 08:50 wait, the panic is happening _before_ init_thiefstone is called? 08:51 what? 08:51 <[Demo]> maybe u broke the wish parser 08:51 ugh 08:52 That's somewhat useful to know, at least. 08:53 aosdict: are you using a debugger? if not, this is the sort of situation where they're really helpful 08:53 ais523: I've been in GDB for a couple hours, yes 08:54 as in... I didn't, like, learn how to use GDB a couple hours ago. I've been debugging this panic for a couple hours. 08:55 ouch 08:58 <[Demo]> why am i playing a variant with sokoban 08:59 I think in some cases, it's trying to read the name of the object before getting to the init_thiefstone function. 08:59 <[Demo]> what variants essentially nullify sokoban> 09:00 the weird thing is that it doesn't happen consistently 09:00 <[Demo]> BUC maybe? 09:00 <[Demo]> stack size in inventory? 09:00 <[Demo]> other fields randomly set on items that are wished for? 09:00 I made them non-stacking 09:01 hmm good point with the BUC though 09:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:01 aosdict: have you tried just breaking execution while waiting at the makewish() prompt, then single-stepping from there? 09:01 will try priests, see if that gives consistent crashing 09:01 ais523: yes, and then it invariably doesn't happen that run 09:01 typical 09:02 that sounds almost like a race condition but NetHack is single-threaded 09:02 hmm nope priests don't get it consistently 09:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:03 Well, since the code I added is causing the panic, I'll try adding if guards around the panicking code (needed to do that anyway for cancelled) and see what's what when it does make it into that block 09:04 hmm, what should a cancelled thiefstone display in inventory, instead of its keyed location? 09:05 "s - an uncursed thiefstone (keyed to Nowhere)"? 09:05 what would it do? 09:05 "s - an uncursed thiefstone (inactive)"? 09:05 does it actually send items to "nowhere"? 09:05 nothing? 09:05 ^ 09:05 it'd be a pain to get them back from there! 09:05 I can see an argument that it just becomes a flint stone 09:05