00:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 508 points, 2287 turns, killed by a kobold lord, while fainted from lack of food on altorg
00:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 866 points, 2113 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hardfought
00:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 771 points, 1125 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hdf-eu
00:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 732 points, 1525 turns, killed by a manes on hdf-eu
00:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 307 points, 481 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu
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00:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 205 points, 176 turns, killed by an invisible gnome on hdf-eu
00:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 972 points, 824 turns, killed by a giant ant on hdf-eu
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01:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6102 points, 2750 turns, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu
01:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 260 points, 313 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
01:06 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 453 points, 537 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu
01:07 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2926 points, 8933 turns, killed by a human mummy on hardfought
01:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Cha), 1458138 points, 67601 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/kupopo/dn36/dumplog/1510994644.dn36.txt
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01:19 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: kupopo just earned the Dilithium Star
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01:32 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3557 points, 9085 turns, zapped herself with a wand on hdf-eu
01:34 <Beholder> [05dyn] kupopo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, T:42, killed by a sewer rat
01:37 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 235 points, 491 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu
01:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1154 points, 3255 turns, killed by an imp on altorg
01:46 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 274 points, 276 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu
01:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 34855 points, 5307 turns, killed by an invisible master lich on hdf-eu
01:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 532 points, 1199 turns, killed by a kobold lord on hdf-eu
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02:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 227 points, 388 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
02:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 8 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought
02:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1018579 points, 19172 turns, ascended on hdf-au
https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dn36/dumplog/1511668434.dn36.txt
02:51 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Tangles just earned the Hat Trick
03:24 <Mekkis> I'm having an issue registering: its saying that my email address is invalid.
03:25 <Mekkis> specifically, "    The email address you entered is not allowed to be used."
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03:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3204 points, 6604 turns, killed by a gold golem on hdf-eu
03:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 3432 points, 2462 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hdf-au
03:55 <FIQ> Tangles: gz!
03:55 <FIQ> (for the ascension, not the wand of cold)
04:05 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 644 points, 765 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-au
04:12 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 311 points, 223 turns, killed by an electric shock on hdf-au
04:23 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 4999 points, 6645 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hardfought
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04:46 <aosdict> I wonder if Tangles is trying to get killed by all the different bolts
04:47 <aosdict> do a crossbow bolt next!
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05:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1263448 points, 81542 turns, choked on a quick snack on hdf-eu
05:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Rex just earned the Copper Star
06:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 7501 points, 13073 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu
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06:11 <winny> FIQ: hey, was wondering how did you stumble across User:Winny/ZAPM ? I didn't see it when searching the wiki (defaults to only the Main: namespace), good catch, hadn't seen that very handy item page before
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06:16 <aosdict> I searched for ZAPM using the "Everything" search... got your user page, but I thought elenmirie\splat had one as well and I don't see it
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06:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2320 points, 2973 turns, killed by a black unicorn on hardfought
06:47 <winny> good to know aosdict :)
06:47 <winny> I'm starting to think maybe  i should have added everything to ZAPM directly
06:48 <aosdict> start an entirely new wiki, a ZAPM wiki!
06:48 <winny> haha, true!
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06:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 922 points, 2567 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu
07:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1950 points, 1593 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought
07:07 <aosdict> YANI: remove as many threshold cutoffs from skill effects as possible. Migrate them to effects that scale directly with the amount of practice you have. If you've maxed a skill and haven't enhanced yet, practicing does nothing until you enhance and unlock the ability to train up to the next threshold.
07:08 <ais523> aosdict: ugh
07:08 <ais523> DCSS made a very similar change and I really didn't like it
07:11 <aosdict> why?
07:12 <ais523> partly because it got rid of the milestone effect of hitting particular ranks with particular skills
07:12 <ais523> partly because it made the inputs you needed for strategy much less clear from a memorability point of view
07:12 <ais523> "there's no reason to train this skill above 12.85" or whatever isn't very intuitive
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07:14 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 621 points, 1171 turns, killed by a green mold on hardfought
07:17 * aosdict starts a game in wizard mode to test something, finds a blessed magic lamp next to the upstairs on DL1
07:20 <aosdict> YASI: Frost Band, an artifact ring of fire resistance.
07:21 <aosdict> And Fire Band too, of course.
07:22 <FIQ> winny: I watch last edited
07:22 <FIQ> er
07:22 <FIQ> recent changes
07:22 <FIQ> I mean
07:23 <FIQ> ais523: well
07:23 <FIQ> the DCSS skill system in general is IMO one of DCSS' worst features
07:23 <FIQ> at least they got rid of victory dancing
07:24 <FIQ> I find the skill system *very* unintuitive and you *need* to learn how to master it and how to minmax it
07:24 <FIQ> or you will have a bad time for anything but the easiest of roles
07:24 <ais523> I actually liked the original system, not so much the new ones, although it should have been more lenient to allow for the difficulty of controlling it
07:25 <ais523> I think you shouldn't have been able to turn skills off, either
07:25 <ais523> a better victory dancing fix would have been to make all skill training cost resources
07:25 <ais523> (enemies to attack, items used up, etc.)
07:25 <FIQ> ais523: I never played dcss back when it had victory dancing, but from what I Have understood by reading how it worked afterwards, it sounds absolutely awful
07:25 <FIQ> because it led to very tedious behaviour of having to play exactly in certain ways
07:25 <ais523> people were exaggerating how much of a problem it was, but the fact that you could dance risk-free was something of an issue
07:26 <ais523> because it became optimal and really boring
07:26 <FIQ> right, that is what I am saying
07:26 <FIQ> and from what I understood, this isn't like nethack pudding farming
07:26 <FIQ> because of dcss being a far lower headroom
07:26 <ais523> yes
07:27 <FIQ> meaning you're pretty much forced to engage in the tedium
07:35 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1508 points, 1787 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu
07:44 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1251 points, 3602 turns, killed by an imp, while praying on hdf-eu
07:46 <ais523> incidentally, DCSS's headroom is much higher than the devs want it to be
07:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 376 points, 867 turns, killed by a bear trap on hdf-eu
07:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 117 points, 160 turns, killed by a bear trap on hdf-eu
07:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 543 points, 963 turns, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu
07:55 <FIQ> ais523: I personally always preferred higher headroom with optional challenge runs
07:55 <FIQ> i.e. the NetHack approach
07:55 <FIQ> that way you can accomodate any skill level
07:55 <FIQ> or play
07:57 <ais523> yes, although one big problem it does
07:57 <ais523> is people who are new to the game playing in a very low-headroom style
07:57 <FIQ> ais523: How is this a problem over the game just being low-headroom in general?
07:58 <ais523> because high-headroom games normally have more scope to get a very small advantage via tedious/insane/stupid play
07:58 <ais523> because there's less of an incentive to get rid of that sort of thing
07:58 <ais523> think of it this way: pudding farming wasn't a huge problem in NH3.4.3, because it wasn't necessary and there wasn't much reason to do it
07:58 <ais523> but it'd be a huge issue in Brogue
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08:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1672 points, 2809 turns, killed by a large mimic on hdf-eu
08:02 <jonadab> ais523: That's because Brogue is so much harder.
08:02 <jonadab> Anything that helped you survive would be mandatory.
08:03 <shpingrlde> my favorite thing about brogue is the number of tough calls it has
08:03 <shpingrlde> what to enchant, whether to start jumping down pits to save time / not spawn more liches. quaff this now or later
08:04 <ais523> jonadab: right, that's the point I'm making
08:04 <ais523> also, I'm not sure if I'd call Brogue /harder/
08:04 <ais523> rather, I'd say it has /less room for error/
08:04 <ais523> especially strategically
08:04 <ais523> a strategic mistake in Brogue can be very hard to recover
08:04 <shpingrlde> nethack and DCSS are kinda autoplay: of course you wear the speed boots. of course you equip grayswandir.
08:05 <shpingrlde> the early game has some tough calls though. before you do the big blessed ID
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08:05 <jonadab> ais523: A one-turn tactical mistake in Brogue can be very hard to recover.
08:06 <jonadab> Like, wasting a turn at the wrong time, for instance, can result in inevitable death twenty turns later.
08:06 <jonadab> Or two hundred turns later, even.
08:06 <ais523> I find that happens less often; do you have examples?
08:07 <jonadab> Typically, it involves failing to move away from a strong monster fast enough, so then it's adjacent to you and will inevitably kill you at some point, because you have no way to get away.
08:07 <jonadab> Early ogres for instance.
08:08 <ais523> oh, I see
08:08 <ais523> Brogue has quite a few usable escape items
08:08 <ais523> also, ogres can miss, so it's never an inevitable death, just a likely one
08:09 <shpingrlde> right. you can walk away from the ogre until your hp recovers. then let it swing at you. now it's got a delay turn, so keep walking away. then jump down a chasm.
08:09 <shpingrlde> of course you can get stuck on this long kiting maneuver but it usually works in a pinch
08:13 <jonadab> shpingrlde: You can walk away from the ogre, but your HP will not recover before another monster generates behind you somewhere.
08:14 <jonadab> And yes, I know I oversimplified and sometimes you can find ways to get out of it.
08:15 <ais523> shpingrlde: I'm not convinced you're going to survive an ogre hit + a chasm fall at minimum ogre depth, at least if you had any prior damage
08:15 <ais523> but yes, that's another possibility if you have the HP
08:15 <ais523> I'd be looking at staves or wands, I think, in that situation
08:15 <shpingrlde> well, I guess you don't even need to let it swing, if you're gonna chasm. but getting the one space gap is nice for other escape methods
08:33 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1020 points, 2492 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hardfought
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08:55 <winny> FIQ: thx, was wondering :)
08:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1627 points, 2071 turns, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought
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09:05 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2560 points, 2812 turns, killed by a quivering blob on hdf-eu
09:11 <elenmirie\splat> aosdict: the (incomplete) page that I made on ZAPM is here: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/ZAPM_Item_Prices
09:12 <aosdict> oh I thought it was in your userspace
09:13 <shpingrlde> that was winny
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09:44 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE COMPLETED! firemonkey completed the Grue challenge.
09:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE IGNORED! flump ignored the Joust challenge.
09:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3320 points, 3195 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought
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09:51 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4730 points, 4496 turns, killed by a leocrotta on hdf-eu
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10:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! firemonkey accepted the Waldo challenge.
10:22 <shpingrlde> yani - you can wear a bag on your head for blindness. but only for one turn if it's not a BoH
10:24 <jonadab> What would the flavor be for the one-turn limit?
10:24 <aosdict> shpingrlde: been suggested before by Grasshopper
10:24 <aosdict> with complementary EPI: if you try to do this with a bag of tricks, it bites your head off and you die.
10:25 <jonadab> How about, you can wear a bag over your head for blindness, but only if you're not wearing lenses _or_ a helm, because it uses both slots?
10:25 <aosdict> also suggested by Grasshopper: it sets Cha to 6.
10:25 <jonadab> Heh.
10:25 <jonadab> And if it's cursed, of course, you can't remove it.
10:25 <jonadab> Also:  only if the bag is empty, obviously.
10:26 <aosdict> If you try to do it with a non-empty bag, you get the same effect as #tipping it.
10:26 <shpingrlde> the flavor is that you don't want to suffocate
10:26 <jonadab> Ah, that makes sense for oilskin, I guess.
10:26 <jonadab> Not really for the others.
10:26 <shpingrlde> yeah, what are bags made of?
10:26 <shpingrlde> canvas bags on head are fine. leather, not so much
10:26 <jonadab> Though wearing a BoH over your head, if we wanted to be evil, could just be fatal.
10:27 <aosdict> all bags are made of cloth, canonically.
10:27 <shpingrlde> well there's a whole dimensionworth of air in there
10:27 <aosdict> oilskin sack should perhaps be made leather
10:27 <shpingrlde> and if it's porous to water, it probably should be to air as well
10:27 <jonadab> shpingrlde: They're made of cloth.
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10:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: firemonkey (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8296 points, 4029 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought
10:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 124 points, 342 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought
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10:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 18507910 points, 159837 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/dn36/dumplog/1510921964.dn36.txt
10:48 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4408 points, T:4428, killed by a dwarf lord, while fainted from lack of food
10:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: elenmirie now holds the Basic Extinct and "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?"
11:05 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3749 points, 3398 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hdf-eu
11:07 <ais523> jonadab: D&D has rules for how much air exists in a BoH
11:08 <ais523> because people tried that sort of thing so often
11:08 <jonadab> Heh.
11:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1009 points, 2087 turns, killed by a giant bat, while praying on hardfought
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11:23 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 9090 points, 5161 turns, killed by an invisible stalker on hdf-eu
11:36 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 771 points, 870 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu
11:38 <shpingrlde> hiding in them?
11:42 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! bleeko accepted the Waldo challenge.
11:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! firemonkey accepted the Joust challenge.
11:49 <Beholder> [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6125
11:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: Tariru the Maintenance Man Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [39994 points]
11:57 <rikersan> congrats tariru
11:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1072 points, 1822 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought
11:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> QUIT: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2939 points, 5109 turns, quit on hardfought
12:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 4825 points, 5335 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes on hdf-eu
12:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: squolly (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 167054 points, 28335 turns, drowned in a moat by a giant eel on hdf-eu
12:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2801 points, 1760 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
12:08 <Beholder> [12slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) killed Wang the Raalgon, on T:35162
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12:17 <Beholder> [12slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) averted death, on T:35237
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12:23 <rikersan> !race dnh
12:23 <Beholder> rikersan: elf
12:23 <rikersan> !race dnh
12:24 <Beholder> rikersan: clockwork automaton
12:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2708 points, 2530 turns, killed by a lynx on hdf-eu
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12:38 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 120 points, T:481, killed by a blast of fire
12:39 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 222 points, T:175, killed by a gnome lord
12:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2908099 points, 52125 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbo/dn36/dumplog/1511050070.dn36.txt
12:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: eitbo just earned the Dilithium Star
12:47 <shpingrlde> has the eit family chatted with anyone else in the tourney? irc, newsgroup, bbs, mailing list?
12:47 <shpingrlde> null modem cable?
12:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Webmant (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6049494 points, 86288 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1511717615.dn36.txt
12:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Webmant now holds the Highest Scored Barbarian
12:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1258 points, 1868 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu
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13:07 <Grassy> !time
13:07 <Beholder> Grassy: Tue Nov 28 16:07:21 2017 EST
13:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4664 points, 4266 turns, killed by an ape on hdf-eu
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13:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2099 points, 5681 turns, killed by a killer bee on hardfought
13:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1863964 points, 45884 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/larry/dn36/dumplog/1511196679.dn36.txt
13:11 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: larry just earned the Birdie
13:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2934 points, 2817 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu
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13:20 <shpingrlde> !who
13:20 <Beholder> shpingrlde: mightyquinn [14sp] Jendic [15dn36] firemonkey [15dn36] hothraxxa [15dn36] Delraven [15dn36] ab5ni [15dn36] flump [15dn36] Luxidream [15dn36] arkanoid [114k]
13:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 640 points, 663 turns, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu
13:32 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: eitbo (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 392 points, 579 turns, killed by an invisible gnome on hardfought
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13:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: eitbo (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1001 points, 736 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
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14:02 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 9578 points, T:8479, killed by a giant ant
14:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 142 points, 261 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu
14:06 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 73 points, 295 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu
14:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a man eating plant in the space base at depth 4. [4595 points]
14:11 <Beholder> [15nh] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 233 points, T:855, killed by a small mimic, while disrobing
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14:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Rex (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 745 points, 1567 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying on hdf-eu
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14:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 994 points, 1014 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought
14:42 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by a vat slime in the space base at depth 2. [1942 points]
14:42 <realinari> should i treat the vats in zapm like fountains?
14:42 <realinari> i.e. not drink from them
14:42 <realinari> leave them alone
14:43 <realinari> I have a feeling the vats are less dangerous than fountains
14:44 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 292 points, 506 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought
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14:47 <Tangles> Mekkis: Did you get the email address issue sorted?
14:47 <Tangles> Sorry I did not see your message earier.
14:48 <shpingrlde> realinari the vats might have a toxin you can use to kill alien spawn inside of you. drink em at that point
14:49 <realinari> alien spawn inside me
14:49 <realinari> great
14:49 <realinari> so far I’m getting radiation sickness only it seems
14:49 <realinari> I think it’s from the vats
14:50 <realinari> ty
14:51 <jonadab> The alien inside you comes from being attacked by a certain type of alien.
14:51 <jonadab> facehuggers, IIRC.
14:52 <jonadab> Just like in the movie.
14:52 <jonadab> Radiation can come from drinking from vats, or carrying certain things in inventory.
14:52 <realinari> ok, I make a mental note of staying away from all eggs
14:52 <realinari> how can I get rid of the radiation?
14:53 <realinari> it kills me slowly
14:53 <FIQ> the vats are far less dangerous directly
14:53 <FIQ> but far *more* dangerous indirectly
14:53 <FIQ> they usually give you radiation sickness
14:54 <FIQ> but it's worth drinking them for mutation powers once you are at the state where you can offer to pay docbot for purification
14:54 <realinari> purification solves radiation?
14:54 <realinari> cause I’ve been getting that from vats too
14:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3086 points, 1295 turns, killed by a green mold on hardfought
14:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 240 points, 1401 turns, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu
14:57 <realinari> also, what’s up with charisma functioning like mana?
14:59 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 204 points, 401 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hdf-eu
14:59 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by radiation sickness in the space base at depth 2. [1604 points]
15:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 467 points, 667 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought
15:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2398 points, 3650 turns, killed by a pony, while sleeping on hardfought
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15:09 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1370 points, T:2686, killed by a giant bat
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15:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 440 points, 1033 turns, killed by a brown mold on hardfought
15:11 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 5 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought
15:19 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:255, killed by a coyote
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15:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2422 points, 3967 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hdf-eu
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15:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Jendic (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2854330 points, 46259 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/Jendic/dn36/dumplog/1511544039.dn36.txt
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15:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Jendic just earned the Dilithium Star
15:30 <Jendic> :D :D :D
15:30 <FIQ> gz
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15:35 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE COMPLETED! ShivanHunter completed the Pac-Man challenge.
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15:52 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2034 points, 7429 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought
15:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 202 points, 191 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought
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15:58 <FIQ> qqqq
15:58 <FIQ> nvm
15:59 <Beholder> [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11551 points, T:6303, killed by a bolt of cold
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16:07 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3349 points, 1982 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought
16:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 100 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought
16:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 28973 points, 10905 turns, killed by a human zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu
16:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 52 points, 48 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought
16:14 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: noims (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2785218 points, 46818 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/noims/dn36/dumplog/1511736019.dn36.txt
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16:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: noims just earned the Hat Trick
16:21 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1017 points, 3168 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought
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16:29 <rikersan> are there any non-humanoid demons?
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16:31 <FIQ> Jubilex
16:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 578 points, 5875 turns, killed by a purple worm on hardfought
16:32 <FIQ> *Juiblex
16:32 <FIQ> Also some other demon lords
16:32 <rikersan> hm
16:33 <FIQ> actually
16:33 <FIQ> plenty of demons are non-humanoid
16:34 <FIQ> horned devils, barbed devils, vrock, bone devil, ice devil, pit fiend, balrog, Juiblex, Yeenoghu, Orcus, Geryon, Baalzebub, Demogorgon
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16:36 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1789 points, 3696 turns, killed by an orc mummy on hdf-eu
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16:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 416 points, 1742 turns, killed by a wererat on hardfought
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16:51 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 973 points, 1035 turns, killed by a gnome king on hardfought
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16:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 311 points, 429 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought
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17:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by a giant cockroach in the space base at depth 2. [2419 points]
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17:39 <K2> hi
17:39 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
17:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Odd Ball Killed by kicking a door in the space base at depth 1. [500 points]
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17:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1255 points, 1915 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought
17:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 11093 points, 16313 turns, killed by a dog on hardfought
18:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: arnibald the Corporal Killed by a dogbot in the space base at depth 5. [5863 points]
18:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 136 points, 945 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought
18:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: arnibald the Summer Intern Killed by a fuel barrel's explosion in the space base at depth 1. [1028 points]
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18:09 <K2> FIQhack updated
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18:11 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 837 points, 2297 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought
18:16 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a stormtrooper in the space base at depth 5. [6128 points]
18:16 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 394 points, 761 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought
18:19 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Webmant (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 74 points, 188 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hardfought
18:21 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1170 points, 2479 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought
18:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: arnibald the Q/A Tester Killed by a crite in the space base at depth 5. [5633 points]
18:38 <Beholder> [08un] William (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2075 points, T:2714, killed by a rothe
18:48 <aosdict> K2: do you like to hike, and if so where is your favorite place to hike? This came up in another channel.
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18:57 <SenseiTav> Aloha
18:57 <Beholder> Hello SenseiTav, Welcome to #hardfought
19:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by radiation sickness in the space base at depth 7. [7655 points]
19:02 <K2> aosdict really?
19:02 <K2> i like to hike in the woods around where i live
19:02 <K2> and then i hike when the army tells me to (those arent as fun)
19:05 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tav (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1122017 points, 55243 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse on hardfought
19:05 <SenseiTav> too bad, I forgot a succubus made me naked ...
19:06 <SenseiTav> and I had an AlS
19:06 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: tav just earned the Brass Star
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19:16 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: arnibald the Web Designer Pwned by a low ping bastard in the space base at depth 11. [11354 points]
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19:19 <greqrg> The ZAPM announcements make me want to try it
19:20 <greqrg> If they advertised the Orgasmotron on the cover it would probably be more popular than nethack
19:20 <shpingrlde> you haven't yet?
19:20 <greqrg> nope :/
19:20 <shpingrlde> also why does your name look so dang much like "greg"
19:20 <shpingrlde> it's very confusing every time I notice the g and q are opposite of where they should be
19:20 <greqrg> yeah it's a problem because a lot of people think it's supposed to be greg
19:20 <greqrg> and that I'm a greg
19:21 <greqrg> I actually mashed my keyboard one day and this name came out
19:22 <greqrg> I don't really use it for anything anymore but I've been playing nethack for a long time so it persists
19:22 <greqrg> Perhaps my alternate alias grqerg is less confusing
19:23 <shpingrlde> I used to get you and machinespray confused because you both had blue names and seemed to be right in between luxidream and I, skillwise
19:23 <shpingrlde> now I can remember you're the one who also joined us for devnull
19:23 <greqrg> heh
19:23 <shpingrlde> and the streaming thing helps too
19:23 <greqrg> ah yeah, puts a face to the name
19:23 <greqrg> machinespray is on our devnull team btw :P
19:24 <greqrg> I think they've been busy though
19:24 <greqrg> not sure if they've logged many games
19:24 <greqrg> (not that I have)
19:24 <shpingrlde> haven't seen hide nor hair
19:27 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a space orc in the space base at depth 4. [5240 points]
19:27 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tav (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 746 points, 1290 turns, killed by a kobold lord on hardfought
19:32 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Odd Ball Killed by kicking a door in the space base at depth 1. [1380 points]
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19:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! tav accepted the Pool challenge.
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19:43 <shpingrlde> greqrg , PRIME is the more fixed up, fleshed out continuation of ZAPM if you wanted like, an alt-universe nethack that's as good as they can manage
19:44 <shpingrlde> but there's something admittedly nice sounding about a 2 hour, imbalanced, nethack-lite in space
19:44 <greqrg> oh that's right, I had heard that before
19:44 <greqrg> I've looked into PRIME before but never actually tried it
19:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 14337 points, 10523 turns, killed by a mountain centaur on hardfought
19:59 <ais523> ‎<‎greqrg‎>‎ yeah it's a problem because a lot of people think it's supposed to be greg ← I didn't notice until you said that
20:01 <aosdict> I know it's greq but I still mentally read it as "greg rq"
20:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: arnibald the Q/A Tester Killed by a clerkbot in the space base at depth 5. [6105 points]
20:03 <greqrg> heh, well it'd probably be more confusing if I changed it so I guess we're stuck with it
20:04 <greqrg> People will have to carry on thinking I'm greg I guess
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20:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a clerkbot in the space base at depth 6. [6584 points]
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20:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 720 points, 1680 turns, killed by an acidic corpse on hardfought
20:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 10 turns, killed by the wrath of Anhur on hardfought
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20:32 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 16 points, 35 turns, killed by an arrow on hardfought
20:32 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 13 turns, killed by the wrath of Anhur on hardfought
20:35 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 102 points, 265 turns, killed by the wrath of Anhur on hardfought
20:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 29 turns, killed by a blast of disintegration on hardfought
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20:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 14 turns, killed by the wrath of Anhur on hardfought
20:42 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Died during childbirth in the space base at depth 7. [7865 points]
20:42 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 27 turns, killed by an invisible kobold zombie on hardfought
20:46 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 24 points, 36 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought
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20:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 35 points, 265 turns, killed by a riding accident on hardfought
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21:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1013 points, 2282 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought
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21:37 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 691 points, 950 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought
21:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 16 points, 93 turns, killed by a green dragon on hardfought
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21:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 33 turns, killed by an alchemic blast on hardfought
21:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 16 points, 32 turns, killed by colliding with the ceiling on hardfought
21:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 860 points, 1091 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought
21:59 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2255 points, 5532 turns, killed by a jaguar, while praying on altorg
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22:14 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 34 points, 114 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
22:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3384 points, 3739 turns, killed by a wererat on hdf-eu
22:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1602 points, 4350 turns, poisoned by a killer bee on altorg
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22:42 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2013 points, 4013 turns, fell into a pit of iron spikes on hdf-eu
22:44 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 16 points, 203 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
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22:52 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 396 points, 758 turns, killed by a fox on altorg
23:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3294 points, 1805 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu
23:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 876 points, 1350 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu
23:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 141 points, 139 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu
23:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 296 points, 451 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu
23:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 996 points, 2336 turns, killed by an imp on altorg
23:12 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 505 points, 437 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu
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