00:20 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2362 points, 7421 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hdf-eu 00:21 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 143 points, 253 turns, killed by a newt on hdf-eu 00:38 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:54 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 00:59 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 01:34 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 01:35 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5004 points, 8169 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hdf-eu 02:02 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3058 points, 2472 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 02:05 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 884 points, 968 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 02:08 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:10 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1099 points, 1673 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 02:11 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 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I get them muddled sometimes 03:18 (err, four distinct messagebots, that is; some of them are in more than one channel, e.g. Rodney is also in #nethackwiki) 03:22 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 03:25 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 03:26 DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 534 points, 621 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 03:30 The other ones probably do it that way because Rodney does it that way, tbh. 03:33 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 03:34 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 03:36 DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1072 points, 1681 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 03:37 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:39 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 03:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 03:43 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 03:46 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 03:55 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 04:04 -!- realinari has quit 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https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/khamul/dn36/dumplog/1511371202.dn36.txt 07:44 TROPHY: khamul now holds the Highest Scored Barbarian 07:44 TROPHY: khamul just earned the Double Top 07:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! firemonkey accepted the Grue challenge. 07:53 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 07:54 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2687 points, 2124 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 07:57 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:00 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:10 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1007 points, 1629 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 08:15 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 08:17 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:26 [14sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3861 points, T:5716, killed by a hill orc 08:28 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 08:29 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:33 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1226 points, 2138 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 08:38 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 08:43 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:44 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1892 points, 1319 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 08:49 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 08:50 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:53 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 08:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 08:59 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 09:03 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:04 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 09:07 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 74 points, T:85, killed by a jackal 09:08 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2020 points, 2319 turns, killed by a gecko on hardfought 09:10 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:12 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 09:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by 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unconscious from rotten food on hardfought 10:02 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 0 points, T:100, killed by a black pudding 10:06 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:09 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:17 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:21 DIED: jmcunx (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1596 points, 4556 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 10:21 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:25 -!- HTTPS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 2504 points, T:1532, killed by a dwarf 10:28 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- HTTPS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- HTTPS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:38 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 32508 points, 11149 turns, killed by a minotaur on hdf-eu 10:40 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:43 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:43 -!- 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[14603 points] 12:23 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1358 points, 1957 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 12:24 is there some funny messages I can explore while being both blind and hallucinating? 12:24 *are there 12:40 Oh, there are *all kinds* of hallucination-specific messages. 12:40 More than half the messages in the game are different when you're hallucinating. 12:40 but blind+hallu 12:42 there's one for when you arrive on a level you forgot, while blind and hallucinating 12:46 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 11634 points, 5541 turns, killed by a dart on hdf-eu 12:49 DIED: firemonkey (Pri-Hum-Mal-Law), 1592 points, 2004 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 12:57 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 214 points, 773 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 12:57 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 12:58 ZAPM: winny the Sergeant Killed by a guardbot's laser cannon in Robot Town at depth 8. [10780 points] 12:59 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 53 points, 133 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 13:02 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 13:05 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 13:07 lol 13:08 tribble scumming 13:08 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 439 points, 904 turns, killed by a djinni on hardfought 13:13 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1476 points, 2344 turns, killed by a golden naga hatchling, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 13:13 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 52 points, 401 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 13:15 oh man 13:15 almost died to tribbles 13:15 filled an entire level with them, easy xp, really unlimited, i don't think there is a logarithmic increase in xp 13:17 death my a million cuts almost 13:17 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 288 points, 474 turns, killed by a boiling potion on hardfought 13:17 filling an entire level with monsters 13:17 maybe not the greatest strategy 13:17 tribbles are really weak 13:18 but if u spam a direction you'll lose hp, maybe 1 pt for every 20 hits 13:19 anyone know where in the source code all of the amulet of yendor's effects are defined at? 13:19 such as blocking teleport and increased spell cost? 13:19 probably inline where the effects are used 13:19 doTeleport or whatever it is 13:21 good start - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Amulet_of_Yendor#References 13:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 13:22 okay so the reference is uhave.amulet 13:22 that really explains things 13:22 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23 DIED: jmcunx (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 519 points, 1483 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 13:24 great it looks like my sunglasses are going to be tougher to implement than i thought 13:24 so um 13:24 YANI: sunglasses that, when worn, block gaze attacks 13:25 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 13:26 rip, yeah probably gunna have to add code to every gaze attack 13:34 okay i guess i'm gonna have to ask 13:34 where is monster polymorph handled in the source?? 13:40 DIED: hothraxxa (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 36016 points, 19150 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought 13:42 !lastgame 13:42 raisse\splat: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/sporkhack/dumplog/1511808737.sp.txt 13:42 lol, not that one 13:42 !lastgame nd 13:42 raisse\splat: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/ShivanHunter/nhdev/dumplog/1511598506.nhdev.txt 13:42 !lastgame dn 13:42 raisse\splat: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkmantwo/dnethack/dumplog/1511805722.dnh.txt 13:43 argh my bot fu is nowhere 13:46 in my mod i've started implementing the scroll of polymorph 13:49 StatueSurfer: if you ask the question "where is X handled in the source" the answer is likely "3-5 different places, maybe more" 13:49 okay well 13:50 i can't find ANYWHERE where monster polymorph is handled 13:50 at least in any place that seems remotely obvious 13:50 in the top level directory try doing grep -r 'polymorph' 13:50 StatueSurfer: are these sunglasses completely blocking gaze attacks, or do they have downsides like blinding you? 13:50 and prepare to sift 13:50 I'd grep for 'mutates' but I think StatueSurfer doesn't have grep available 13:50 StatueSurfer: Well, there's trap.c for one, and also polyself.c, which despite the name handles some monster polymorph things. 13:51 aosdict: they block gaze attacks without blinding the wearer 13:51 But there's also polymorph-related code in other places. 13:51 Not sure where shape changers are handled. 13:51 That is almost certainly separate. 13:51 StatueSurfer: try looking for newcham() 13:52 Oh, see also mon.c 13:52 YANI: add a message for a monster polymorphing via polytrap. 13:53 aosdict: "It turns into it" ? 13:53 Hah. 13:53 This would be assuming you can see it. 13:53 if you were to read a blessed scroll of polymorph while confused in my variant, it says "You transform into yourself." 13:53 which has no effect 13:53 but if you have unchanging, it instead says "You feel queasy." 13:53 because you couldn't transform into yourself 13:54 after all it's just what nethack needs 13:54 StatueSurfer: And if hallucinating and unchanging? 13:54 more ways for nothing to happen 13:55 jonadab: hm i didn't think of that 13:55 maybe "You briefly have an identity crisis." 13:56 cursed and confused would turn the monsters around you into your own role 13:56 I was trying to think if there's an antonym for "queasy" 13:56 or will when i figure out how to implement that 13:56 But I couldn't come up with one off the top of my head. 13:56 it's not always opposites when hallucinating 13:57 like that one for whatever it is 13:57 where instead of normal it says "[your vision] seems happier now." 13:57 Well, strange and normal always get switched. 13:57 When hallucinating. 13:57 THAT one _is_ consistent. 13:59 nope if you switch blindness while wearing the eyes of the overworld 13:59 it switches normal for happier 13:59 well or sadder 13:59 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2417 points, 3881 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 14:06 man 14:06 got to the rabbit hole 14:06 still don't have a computer :( 14:09 ZAPM: Tariru the Star Player Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [41932 points] 14:09 nice! 14:17 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 14:19 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2396 14:26 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 7469 points, T:2786, killed by a watch captain 14:31 in zapm is there another way to remove a buggy item other than debugging it with a computer + floppy? 14:31 nvm :) based usenet troll 14:33 winny: Depends. If it's a helmet, for instance, you can get a migo to remove it. 14:33 oh, good to know. 14:34 I was extremely lucky, i cleared all of the spacebase down to the rabbit hole, no computer even in the stores, so a random usenet troll dropped a megacomputer after a ton of backtracking and wandering for random monster spawning 14:37 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:38 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 14:45 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 5291 points, 5433 turns, killed by an ape on hardfought 14:46 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:51 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 14:54 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 14:55 How can I make bison tell me where it's finding a shift/reduce conflict? It's saying I introduced one somewhere but I can't get it to report where. 14:55 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:56 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:57 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 970 points, 2261 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 15:14 I wonder if anyone would care if I changed the existing trapped symbol for _containers_ instead. 15:15 Currently there's nothing that uses it. 15:15 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 15:25 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! firemonkey completed the Dig-Dug challenge. 15:33 Mandevil\splat: your scoreboard doesn't seem to do an urlencode on dumplog URLs? 15:33 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-27%2019:18:33#ORCTOWN4FH-Pri-Orc-Mal-Cha,%20died.txt 15:33 this URL is invalid because of the # not being escaped 15:34 oh, come on.. carrots aren’t fruit 15:34 I don’t care what Blinky thinks 15:34 ever seen a carrot in pack man? 15:36 ok, sorry, I must have angred the RNG with that comment 15:36 she just made me a tiny room full of 8 killer bees 15:40 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 6324 points, 3596 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought 15:48 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 671 points, 907 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 15:51 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 412 points, 357 turns, killed by a large mimic on hardfought 15:54 so I think i could possibly win this game of zapm 15:55 cleared all of spacebase, sewer, got the power plant, but the things i think i should get - radiation implant (though i have radiation suit, but i need the armor) & poison implant (have no resistences to poison whatsoever) 15:55 that leads to question - can you "overenchant" items in zapm? i don't see code that suggests so, but not willing to risk it 16:03 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 16:04 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:13 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 16:18 EPI: a "harder than hard" role that, until XL13, has a 1 in 3 chance of failing to deal a death blow to a monster 16:19 if not evil enough just take the "until XL13" part out 16:20 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:21 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:35 made a mirror for zapm with git history for the various releases https://github.com/winny-/ZAPM-mirror 16:50 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53 hah, my door overhaul commit has 361 insertions 16:53 I take this as a sign 17:01 When you learn to do commits that have more removals than insertions, while adding features and making the code more readable, then you will have achieved master developer status. 17:01 -!- realinari has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:03 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 17:03 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 17:09 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 9848 points, 7452 turns, killed by a fire ant, while sleeping off a magical draught on hdf-eu 17:17 if I die in packman, do I die in game? 17:17 no 17:17 kicked out though so you can't go back in 17:18 in that game 17:18 ok, cool then 17:18 thx 17:18 same with digdug? 17:18 ahh, shit, it is pitch black though 17:22 DIED: jmcunx (Hea-Hum-Mal-Neu), 715 points, 2028 turns, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 17:28 !tell K2 there was some updates 17:28 Will do, FIQ! 17:30 realinari: don't go if you havne't done grue 17:32 the spots are made dark after you step on them 17:32 which triggers ^^ 17:33 realinari: no, dying in digdug is permanent I think 17:33 yeah, that turned out problematic 17:36 [10fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) were chosen to steal souls for the glory of Mars, on T:12095 17:36 03> The Bastard Operator From Hell splashes in the acid! 17:36 not very smart, now is hi 17:38 did he die from that? 17:38 nope 17:39 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1440 points, 2565 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 17:46 ASCENDED: mtf (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2493838 points, 44915 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/dn36/dumplog/1511589662.dn36.txt 17:50 digdug would be a much more acceptable challenge if you could kill the enemies normally and still win 17:55 ZAPM: arnibald the Sergeant Killed by a pink horror in the space base at depth 7. [8232 points] 17:58 where is the mainframe entrance? 17:59 oh sorry, rabbit hole! 18:01 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 18:07 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 18:10 hi 18:10 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 18:10 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-27 20:28 EST: there was some updates 18:11 -!- sebastia1toby has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:18 jonadab: say I want to add a new tile, how would I go about doing this? What are the relevant things I have to touch in the code? 18:18 (The tiles in question are iron door tiles, and based on how tedious it might be to add them I might decide not to.) 18:23 aosdict: I know how to add a tile for a new type of terrain, new monster, new object, new trap, etc. 18:24 I don't, however, know how to add a tile for a thing that there's already a tile for, but in a different state somehow. 18:24 Well, substitution tiles in NH4, but only if there's an existing substitution for it. 18:27 But I think I'd start by grepping for the exact string used as the name of one of the existing tiles. 18:28 -!- HTTPS has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 Hmm, see the screen_symbols enum for a starting point. 18:30 :) 18:31 ZAPM: winny the Captain Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [42301 points] 18:31 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! winny completed the ZAPM challenge. 18:34 aosdict: Yeah, grep for all cases of S_vodoor, with special attention to the screen_symbols enum, back_to_glyph() function, is_cmap_door() macro, dfeature_at(), init_r_symbols(), loadsyms[] array, and altlabels[] array. 18:35 are there dumplogs for zapm 18:36 I don't think so. 18:36 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3056 points, 4334 turns, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Ms. Konosja, the shopkeeper on hardfought 18:39 winny: no there are not :/ 18:39 woops 18:40 i should have ttyrec'ed my session 18:40 lolol 18:40 ah well, :) 18:40 those do exist 18:40 oh cool 18:40 they easy to browse? 18:40 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winny/zapm/ttyrec/ 18:41 how long do you keep the old ones 18:41 indefinitely 18:41 nice! 18:41 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:41 greqrg I'm in Florida! 18:44 ohhhh, come on 18:44 I hate this game 18:45 why do I put myself through this 18:45 because without pain there is no pleasure 18:46 DIED: inari (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 17725 points, 12694 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu 18:46 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 257 points, 585 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 18:47 ZAPM: arnibald the Sergeant Died during childbirth in the space base at depth 10. [11642 points] 18:47 jonadab: for ascii, I was planning to make them the same characters but cyan. Since defsyms seems to hardcode them, I think I do need to add new tiles entirely. 18:48 I fail to see the pleasure in getting ripped apart by a speedy panther, or mushed by a minotaur, or fried by a gnome with a fire wand. 18:48 as far as I can tell, it is only pain 18:48 the dungeon is nothing like a pleasure cave 18:49 aosdict: the same characters but HI_METAL makes sense to me. 18:49 How to achieve it is the question. 18:50 ZAPM: arnibald the Private Killed by a man eating plant in the space base at depth 2. [1380 points] 18:51 DIED: ab5ni (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 157 points, 390 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 18:52 realinari: if all that happened to you were good things, after awhile you wouldnt appreciate it as much 18:52 you gotta have the sour to enjoy the sweet :P 18:53 having said that - there are days I have cursed this game to hell and back 18:55 from the zapm sources: int preggers = getStoryFlag ("impregnation"); 18:55 :) 18:55 preggers 18:57 And what it actually means is parasitized by an alien that will soon kill you by bursting out of your chest. 18:57 I'm working on a small set of spoilers to help understand some of the less discussed parts of zapm https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Winny/ZAPM 18:57 basically anything not on the wiki page yet 18:58 probably going to merge into wiki once it seems important enough.. 19:01 K2: Good timing, the weather should be quite nice this week :) 19:01 winny: that's awesome 19:01 greqrg I dount i'll have a chance to enjoy it 19:01 doubt 19:02 i got off the plane today at 1pm was at the office at 2 and didnt leave til 630 19:02 i did fix 2 ESXi servers and a domain controller though :P 19:03 well at least it sounds like a productive day lol 19:03 k2 - the one true BoFH 19:03 I'm sure you'll at least get the chance to be outside for lunch or something though 19:03 perhaps 19:03 there was 6 inches of snow in my driveway when i left home this morning 19:03 I on the other hand am planning to be in Seattle and Portland next week 19:03 quite a change of scenery :P 19:04 I'll actually be as far south as San Francisco if any west coasters want to grab a beer 19:04 well shit 19:04 -!- dave____ has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:05 how close are you to delray/boca? 19:05 [10fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:16572 19:06 70 miles / 1-1.5 hours from my home 19:06 Not exactly close :/ 19:06 hrm 19:07 A little closer from my office, ~45 minutes or so 19:07 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 19:07 yeah if we're going to drink thats a bit far 19:08 I'd definitely make the trip if I were around over the weekend, but my flight is on Friday :/ 19:08 and i fly back on thursday 19:08 i understand 19:08 ah, that too :P 19:09 and if the next two days are like today i wont be done til 6-7pm or so 19:09 ah well 19:09 next time 19:09 we'll be back in FL around april 19:10 oh is that your Disney trip? 19:10 yup 19:10 Perfect 19:10 4-5 days seeing some friends then the rest is disney 19:10 I'm moving to Orlando next month 19:10 perfect 19:10 i'll definitely come visit 19:10 absolutely :) 19:11 one of these days we need to have NetHack: The Gathering 19:11 old school LAN party 19:12 [10fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:16702 19:12 i keep saying if i ever win the lottery and become oprah rich we'll have one in europe somewhere 19:12 I vaguely remember a meetup back in 2009 or so 19:12 Boston I think? 19:12 oh wow really? 19:13 boston is 4 hr drive from me 19:13 Not 100% sure, I didn't go 19:13 5 tops 19:13 I want to say Eidolos, itsblah, among others went 19:13 back when hardfought was new (circa 2000-2001) and i was hosting counterstrike, we used to have large lan parties in dallas 19:14 a couple were 100+ ppl 19:14 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/album/28 19:14 Wow, that's pretty cool 19:15 i would *love* to go to a nethack gathering 19:15 Same 19:16 ha, these pictures make me nostalgic 19:16 what a different time 19:16 hah... NetHack: The Drinking Game 19:17 yeah those were some good times 19:17 lan #2 was the best 19:17 was about 40 ppl total 19:17 25 or so die hards that stayed the whole time 19:17 we had a smoker out in the parking lot 19:18 smoked bbq and drank beer all weekend while playing 19:18 K2: ok, fine.. there is finally some sweet 19:19 :) 19:19 2 blessed potions of gain ability in a row 19:19 booyah 19:19 grandma 19:19 Yeah that sounds like an awesome meetup 19:20 Someone with more time on their hands than me should totally set up an east coast nethack meetup ;) 19:23 lol dont tempt me 19:23 the biggest problem is that nethack is global in its reach 19:23 a lot of my nethack friends do not live in the states 19:23 which is why i need to be oprah rich 19:23 That's true 19:23 i'd just fly ppl out 19:23 what about a bunch of nethackers just hitting up some kinda foss-games thingy 19:24 foss-games thingy? 19:24 please elaborate 19:25 oh hi there uncursed ring of free action 19:26 i think i will wear you 19:27 there was the roguelikes thing in san francisco 19:27 Roguelike Celebration? 19:27 game jams are kinda common though they're more developer centric 19:29 yeah 19:31 I was there 19:31 (in san francisco) 19:32 I think it's more dev-centric but there was a variety of people, players and developers 19:32 if they'll hold it again next year I think I'll try to pitch a talk about some of my crappy incomplete roguelikes 19:32 Adeon is this something NAO does or is it more lowkey unadvertised kind of thing? 19:33 NAO is not involved 19:33 although I think last year dtype had a talk or something 19:33 ZAPM: arnibald the Sergeant Killed by a radscorpion in the space base at depth 12. [13349 points] 19:33 https://roguelike.club/ this thing 19:34 is pretty big 19:34 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 19:34 bigger than I thought it would be 19:34 neat! 19:34 I think I learned about it on reddit last year 19:34 signed up for the mailing list so I get all the updated now 19:34 kinda suprised for as long as NAO has been around, they've never done anything like this 19:34 updates* 19:34 of course we can't talk about roguelike club unless I can flaunt that I ascended in 1:49:00 live on stage during the event on sunday 19:35 Adeon :) 19:35 I was waiting for that :P 19:35 it's mandatory 19:35 yeah there was that 19:35 audience and everything 19:36 good thing, or Adeon would have looked like a putz 19:36 kind of a big swing on that one, but he connected 19:36 just subscribed 19:36 damn how have i not heard of this til now 19:36 isn't it sorta a spin off of a REALLY developer-centered roguelike conference? 19:37 so even if it was dev heavy it's *supposed* to be the general-access version 19:37 there was also slime mold scientist talking about slime molds 19:37 I also ate her slime mold cupcakes 19:37 they were good 19:37 anybody done level trees for roguelikes, how does this one look? seems as good as it's gunna get. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Winny/ZAPM#Dungeon_Layout 19:37 ha, yeah I saw that one on the presenters list 19:38 my guess is that the people who want to talk typically are creators 19:38 winny: I've never played zapm but that looks pretty nice to me 19:38 as a player what are you going to talk about 19:38 kk, thx greqrg 19:38 talk about that one awesome time you managed to find gauntlets of power! and it has never happened since in 3 years of playing nethack 19:39 winny: Someone showed me this one yesterday if you need inspiration https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Mazes_of_Menace#Map 19:39 hell i'd go 19:39 yeah I'd definitely be there if it were a little more local 19:39 i'm not a programmer but i'd still go and it'd be awesome 19:39 oh hey greqrg i should add a level counter to the side, thanks 19:39 there's no way I would have gone to the event if I didn't also happen to live in san francisco 19:40 would it have been worth a 3 hour drive 19:40 not sure if I would have gone if it was further than 3 hours 19:40 what we need to do, is get all the variant devs together along with the offical devteam in one place at the same time 19:41 Well it's 3 hours for me :P 19:41 that will end in blood 19:41 THAT would be interesting 19:41 whoops 19:41 not 3 hours lol 19:41 3000 miles 19:41 can your car go 3000 miles per hour 19:41 then you can do it! 19:41 shouldn't read and type at the same time 19:41 no 19:41 but i could try... 19:44 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 198 points, 1173 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 19:48