00:13 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: attie (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2496684 points, 41422 turns, ascended on hdf-au
https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/a/attie/dn36/dumplog/1509538823.dn36.txt
00:14 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: attie just earned the Dilithium Star
00:20 <Beholder> [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 233 points, T:345, killed by a killer bee
00:34 <Beholder> [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 46912 points, T:7245, killed by a soldier ant
00:53 <Beholder> [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2921
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01:06 <Beholder> [07nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5165 points, T:5212, killed by a giant spider
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01:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1694 points, 1968 turns, killed by a dart on hardfought
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01:47 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3248 points, 2005 turns, killed by a rock troll on hardfought
01:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 157 turns, killed by a newt, while reading a book on hardfought
02:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! inari accepted the Pac-Man challenge.
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02:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! inari accepted the Grue challenge.
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02:34 <Beholder> [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3004 points, T:6, quit
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02:46 <Beholder> [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 31932 points, T:1582, killed by a soldier ant
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04:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 133884 points, 10082 turns, petrified by losing gloves while wielding a cockatrice corpse on hdf-au
04:10 <Tangles> god damit.
04:10 <Beholder> Tangles: Message from realinari at 2017-11-21 10:18 EST: inari needs help with a reload after he bugged out the purple boulder playing pool on sokoban turning it into 20 spellbooks of force bolt
04:11 <Tangles> ugh ok. I hope K2 got that.
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04:15 <ShivanHunterLapt> yo
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04:15 <LarienTelrunya> ShivanHunterLapt: join my clan *buuuuuuuuundlebundlebundle* ♥
04:16 <LarienTelrunya> (I also tried to send that mail to you but apparently it doesn't work for some reason)
04:16 <ShivanHunterLapt> I know at some point for 3.6.0 the ability to wish for other roles' quest artifacts was removed. Does that apply for the devnull tribute version?
04:16 <ShivanHunterLapt> ah lol
04:17 <LarienTelrunya> sadly I don't know how 3.6.0 changes artiwishing
04:18 <ShivanHunterLapt> IIRC it changed and then changed back at some point
04:29 <jonadab> ShivanHunterLapt: The wishing aspect hasn't changed, but 3.6.0 has a bug wherein you can't actually _use_ other roles' quest artifacts.  It's fixed in 3.6.1, but probably not fixed in devnull.
04:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1344 points, 690 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-au
04:30 <ShivanHunterLapt> damn
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04:30 <ShivanHunterLapt> Welp no mkot I guess
04:33 <jonadab> YASI:  using a wand of wishing to wish for an artifact causes the wand to glow brown for a second, draining an additional charge from the wand.  Unless it was a wrest wish, in which case it doesn't quite work and you just get the artifact's base item.
04:34 <LarienTelrunya> heh, YASI: if you have sex with a foocubus and a sentient monster is watching, it can get furious and start throwing rocks at you.
04:36 <FIQ> that is wron
04:36 <FIQ> the bug was introduced in 3.6.1
04:36 <ShivanHunterLapt> you sure? I'll try for the mkot if it'll work
04:36 <LarienTelrunya> ShivanHunterLapt: I really want you in my clan just like in the good old times :) https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/clanmgmt/
04:37 <ShivanHunterLapt> hmmm ;)
04:37 <jonadab> YASI: if you have sex with an incubus, you can end up having constant nausea for the next few thousand turns.  If you have sex with a succubus, and then kill it, your god can become angry; if you have sex with a succubus and _don't_ kill it, it can turn up 9000 turns later and drag you into court (suing for child support)...
04:37 <FIQ> yes I am sure
04:37 <jonadab> FIQ: Oh, huh, ok.
04:37 <jonadab> In that case, devnull should be unaffected.
04:37 <ShivanHunterLapt> alriiiight I'm going for it
04:38 <ShivanHunterLapt> (it's a lamp so inb4 no wish anyway)
04:38 <jonadab> Dragging you into court results in 5d10 lawyers, imported from ZAPM.
04:38 <jonadab> Which are not genocideable.
04:39 <ShivanHunterLapt> w00t w00t
04:40 <ShivanHunterLapt> cya later nerds, way too much lag on this connection
04:40 <ShivanHunterLapt> I hit a floating eye earlier because of it lol
04:40 <FIQ> see you
04:40 <LarienTelrunya> yay, welcome in the clan :)
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04:47 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1329 points, 2117 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-au
05:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1334 points, 802 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-au
05:12 <aosdict> jonadab: well at least that's a happier outlook on pregnancy than ZAPM has
05:16 <jonadab> aosdict: Heh.
05:38 <aoei\splat> uh oh. just trapdoored into the catacombs
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06:09 <Porkman> oink
06:16 <K2> Tangles :(
06:16 <K2> realinari: what happened exactly?
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06:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 3 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu
06:25 <realinari> with the bug?
06:25 <K2> yes
06:25 <realinari> I don’t know, my game had disappeared when I logged in to day
06:25 <realinari> *today
06:25 <K2> hrm
06:25 <K2> EU server yes?
06:26 <realinari> I can replicate it
06:26 <realinari> yes EU
06:26 <realinari> I’m in a new one now
06:26 <K2> I see you logged in to the EU server now, how far is that game?
06:26 <realinari> not something I care about
06:27 <realinari> saved it
06:27 <K2> ok
06:27 <realinari> I’m ok either way, doesn’t matter, but would be interesting having a look at the bugged out one
06:28 <K2> well... :/
06:28 <K2> you started a new game and saved it already
06:28 <Beholder> [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 48780 points, T:10670, killed by a black pudding
06:28 <realinari> hahaha
06:28 <realinari> ok
06:28 <K2> the backup save is overwritten
06:28 <realinari> I’ll see what happens this time then
06:28 <realinari> if I can recreate it
06:29 <K2> ok. any details you can share in the way of an error msg (if any) and what you were doing and the conditions will help
06:29 <realinari> for a few hours there was an orphan nh process I expect, then that had disappeared when I logged in today
06:30 <realinari> no error message
06:30 <K2> the paniclog shows 'impossible named object not in disco'
06:30 <realinari> :H
06:31 <K2> that error msg shows up everywhere all the time
06:31 <realinari> I prodded the purple boulder with a spellbook of force bolt, then cast force bolt, I believe
06:31 <K2> ok
06:31 <realinari> that turned the purple boulder into 20 spellbooks of force bolt
06:31 <K2> lol awesome
06:31 <realinari> when I looked at it it was still a ‘boulder'
06:32 <realinari> but when I walked onto the square it was 20 spellbooks of force bolt
06:32 <realinari> when I picked up the 20 spellbooks of forcebolt I got ‘M - 20 spellbooks of force bolt'
06:32 <realinari> in my inventory
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06:32 <realinari> but the boulder was still there when I looked at it
06:33 <realinari> and I could pick up 20 spellbooks of force bolt as many times as I wanted
06:33 <K2> how odd
06:33 <realinari> when I saved the game, I never let me load that save again
06:33 <realinari> process went stale
06:34 <realinari> it’s a nice bug :D
06:34 <realinari> for a while I thought that was what the billiards level was supposed to be like
06:35 <K2> ah
06:35 <realinari> I never had time to play in november before
06:35 <K2> dont feel like you need to reproduce that if you dont want to
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06:35 <realinari> np
06:35 <K2> that's more than enough detail for us to re-create it
06:35 <realinari> allways nice to try and break something
06:35 <K2> yes :)
06:38 <realinari> well, give me wizard on hardfought and I can certainly try again
06:39 <realinari> but as I said, I think it was: prodding with spellbook, then casting spell at the boulder
06:39 <realinari> i /think/
06:39 <K2> ok
06:40 <realinari> may I add that I did not do any of this on purpose
06:40 <realinari> billiards was actually going well up till then
06:40 <realinari> ;)
06:41 <K2> heh ok :)
06:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3246 points, 6125 turns, killed by a bugbear on hdf-eu
06:43 <FIQ> K2: don't you do several backups?
06:44 <realinari> K2: by the way, I never started a new game deleting the old one..
06:44 <K2> i do but the newest one would have been from 24 hrs ago other than the normal backup dgl does
06:44 <K2> realinari: oh so this is all very recent then?
06:44 <realinari> the first few hours it detected that the first game was still ongoing
06:45 <realinari> today it never prompted me about the old game
06:45 <K2> hrm
06:45 <K2> yeah so on dgl side the regular backup is already overwritten
06:45 <realinari> it was, a few days ago
06:45 <realinari> first login since then is today
06:46 <K2> hah ok... EU server
06:46 <K2> hrm
06:46 <realinari> dgl is dgamelaunch?
06:46 <K2> there's no backup schema in place for the remotes
06:46 <K2> yes
06:46 <K2> i keep thinking we're taliing about hdf main
06:46 <realinari> k2: cheers to you for the wonderfull low ping by the way
06:47 <realinari> ;D
06:47 <K2> lol yw :P
06:47 <K2> when hdf eu goes mainstream i'll need to set up a remote backup plan like what hdf main has
06:47 <FIQ> K2: you should set up backups for ehdf too if you plan on making it permanent
06:48 <realinari> mmmh, europeans likes to live a little more dangerous anyway
06:48 <FIQ> realinari: I am sorry for your poor customer service. Consider asking for a refund
06:48 <FIQ> haha
06:48 <realinari> :D
06:48 <realinari> I want my time back!
06:49 <realinari> and take back the fun too!
06:49 <K2> FIQ
06:49 <K2> when hdf eu goes mainstream i'll need to set up a remote backup plan like what hdf main has
06:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5411 points, 5319 turns, killed by an invisible barrow wight on hdf-eu
06:51 <realinari> ok, I’m back there
06:52 <K2> you going to recreate or just play normal?
06:52 <realinari> I can’t recreate it
06:52 <Tangles> realinari: Sorry I only got your message a little while ago, but saw that it was old.  Hence my comment that I hoped K2 got it. He's been keeping way more on top of the game recoveries.
06:52 <realinari> because apparently there is no prodding with a spellbook
06:52 <Tangles> but a stack of 20 spellbooks. That's odd.
06:53 <realinari> which is what I thought happened
06:53 <K2> hi tangles. sorry about your splat earlier, i saw the msg
06:53 <K2> bleh
06:54 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 226 points, 114 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu
06:55 <realinari> and casting force bolt just destroys the other boulders
06:55 <realinari> let me try a bit more
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06:56 <realinari> ops
06:56 <realinari> killed myself
06:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: inari (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 705 points, 1334 turns, killed by a cue boulder on hdf-eu
06:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 205 points, 465 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
06:57 <Tangles> realinari: unique death :)
06:57 <Tangles> K2: Yeah that's 3 big splats since I started on elf wizards.
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07:01 <FIQ> Tangles: I suspect the spellcasting code
07:01 <FIQ> this is why
07:01 <FIQ>     /* pseudo is a temporary "false" object containing the spell stats */
07:01 <FIQ>     pseudo = mksobj(spellid(spell), FALSE, FALSE);
07:01 <FIQ>     pseudo->blessed = pseudo->cursed = 0;
07:01 <FIQ>     pseudo->quan = 20L; /* do not let useup get it */
07:01 <realinari> someone mentioned that the game creates 20 spellbooks for objects requiring an object when you cast a spell
07:01 <realinari> yes that
07:01 <FIQ> realinari: Yes, I just pasted that code
07:02 <FIQ> and yeah I was the one mentioning it
07:02 <FIQ> Tangles: basically I think, in some way, that the pseudo-object ended up leaking into the real world, possibly from stale pointers or such
07:03 <FIQ> *dangling
07:03 <Tangles> yeah ok.
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07:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2449 points, 3306 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-eu
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07:22 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5451 points, 4357 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu
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07:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 756 points, 1811 turns, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu
07:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 8 points, 68 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu
07:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1072 points, 1338 turns, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu
07:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 13544 points, 6102 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hdf-au
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07:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 504 points, 481 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-au
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08:12 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 455 points, 1380 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping on hardfought
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08:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> QUIT: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2312 points, 3144 turns, quit on hdf-eu
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08:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 357 points, 939 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought
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08:48 <Beholder> [10fh] Daisuke II (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 31136 points, T:1339, killed by a rothe
08:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 9322 points, 5323 turns, killed by a mountain centaur on hardfought
09:19 <Beholder> [15nh] seabass1211 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 52 points, T:180, killed by a sewer rat
09:31 <Beholder> [10fh] Johny (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 30017 points, T:5174, killed by an orc shaman's force bolt
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09:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5658 points, 2736 turns, killed by an energy vortex on hardfought
09:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Tariru (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1580568 points, 28393 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1511566855.dn36.txt
09:58 <aoei\splat> blessed ?oSM is helpful for the new raven medusa level
10:00 <greqrg> Yeah I wouldn't mind scare monster there
10:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 773 points, 1076 turns, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought
10:10 <aoei\splat> and now two master lichs are dead
10:10 <aoei\splat> yay
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10:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7833 points, 4431 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought
10:18 <rikersan> !who
10:18 <Beholder> rikersan: jackofclubs [15dn36] dgoddard [15dn36] hothraxxa [15dn36] oh6 [15dn36] Webmant [15dn36] jonathanhanes [15dn36] Nobbs [06nh4]
10:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2817 points, 4072 turns, killed by a white unicorn on hardfought
10:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 635 points, 1281 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought
10:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 27 turns, killed by a falling rock on hardfought
10:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tariru (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2294 points, 4685 turns, poisoned by a rotted shrieker corpse on hdf-eu
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11:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 412 points, 528 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu
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11:10 <Beholder> [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 106 points, T:268, killed by a fox
11:18 <Beholder> [13dnh] porkmantwo (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 1644 points, T:1330, killed by a soldier ant
11:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1340 points, 3318 turns, killed by a blue jelly on hardfought
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11:20 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 334 points, 682 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu
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11:21 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 212 points, 602 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
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12:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 6807 points, 6988 turns, killed by a snake on hdf-eu
12:07 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 681 points, 743 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
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12:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 862 points, 1925 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
12:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 71 points, 185 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought
12:25 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2106903 points, 49551 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dn36/dumplog/1511563711.dn36.txt
12:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 388 points, 1749 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
12:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: k2 just earned the Dilithium Star
12:26 <K2> wewt
12:27 <spontiff> congrats
12:27 <elenmirie\splat> go team splat!
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12:29 <K2> thanks!
12:29 <K2> i forgot to toss an egg at the high preiest
12:29 <FIQ> K2: gz!
12:30 <K2> *priest
12:37 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 69697 points, 14434 turns, petrified by a cockatrice, while getting stoned on hardfought
12:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1112 points, 1715 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu
13:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5532 points, 4724 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu
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13:16 <aosdict> grats K2
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13:38 <raisse\splat> belated congrats K2
13:38 <K2> thanks raisse
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13:54 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Mandevil (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2021072 points, 34534 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mandevil/dn36/dumplog/1511360556.dn36.txt
13:54 <Jendic> Congrats!
13:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top
13:55 <raisse\splat> congrats Mandevil\splat!
13:55 <K2> wooo Mandevil\splat go!
13:56 <Mandevil\splat> 22:55 < NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top
13:56 <Mandevil\splat> Castle WoW completely unused.
13:57 <greqrg> Nice
13:57 <greqrg> 'grats Mandevil\splat 
13:57 <greqrg> oh nice, 'grats k2!
13:57 <K2> thx!
14:05 <FIQ> gz Mandevil\splat !
14:06 <Mandevil\splat> Thanks
14:14 <aosdict> grats
14:23 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: noims (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 14909 points, 9615 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu
14:24 <Beholder> [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2170
14:24 * aosdict gives Mandevil the Birdie WBO plus Double Top secret handshake
14:25 <Mandevil\splat> :)
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14:38 <Porkman> what's a birdie with double top
14:41 <raisse\splat> double top = all alignments, birdie = both genders
14:41 <raisse\splat> so if you have 2 of one gender and 1 of the other, you have both
14:41 <raisse\splat> with bells on = in a streak
14:42 <raisse\splat> birdie WBO = ascended male and female without any games in between
14:42 <raisse\splat> I have the double top and the birdie but no bells because I died a lot between the ascensions
14:43 <raisse\splat> (now working on hat trick = all races)
14:43 <raisse\splat> hat trick necessarily includes double top because all races implies all alignments, but not the birdie because they can all be the same gender
14:44 <raisse\splat> I have to remember to play one male to get the birdie
14:44 <raisse\splat> because my rc has OPTIONS=gender:female
14:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Qwesti (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 260 points, 199 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought
14:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 8252 points, 5904 turns, killed by a leocrotta on hardfought
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15:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 822 points, 2598 turns, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse on hardfought
15:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1083 points, 1490 turns, killed by a centipede on hardfought
15:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 845 points, 909 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought
15:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3211 points, 3904 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
15:46 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 333 points, 608 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu
15:48 <Porkman> but do you get all that from playing DNH?
15:48 <Porkman> or is it only vanilla
15:50 <raisse\splat> Porkman: it's the devnull tribute tournament
15:50 <raisse\splat> special tournament trophies
15:50 <shpingrlde> there's a sub-menu for playing the tournament version of vanilla Nethack 3.6.0
15:51 <raisse\splat> https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/
15:51 <shpingrlde> dnh counts for the june tourney though
15:52 <shpingrlde> that's when we raise Zombifier from the dead to help ootc out with the dnh stuff :)
15:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 498 points, 1510 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
15:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 105440 points, 26935 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle on hdf-eu
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16:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 991 points, 2278 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought
16:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 39 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought
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16:27 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 6164 points, 8974 turns, killed by a blast of frost on hardfought
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: ShivanHunter just earned the Plastic Star
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16:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Grasshopper (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3590803 points, 63815 turns, ascended on hdf-au
https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/dn36/dumplog/1510839143.dn36.txt
16:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Grasshopper now holds the Highest Scored Ranger
16:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Grasshopper just earned the Double Top
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16:50 <rikersan> YANI: shopkeepers can be elven, orcish, dwarven, or gnomish in addition to human
16:50 <rikersan> likely would give a small discount, like 10% or something, to same-race PCs
16:50 <rikersan> and stock racial armor/weapons instead of other versions, where applicable
16:51 <rikersan> i.e. if it would be a spear, it would be a dwarven/elven/orcish spear
16:51 <rikersan> chain mail would be orcish or elven/dwarf mithril
16:51 <Beholder> [12slex] KickyMcAssingtn (Sha Esp Fem Law), 1133 points, T:1365, killed by a monster (flying shark)
16:52 <shpingrlde> some variants have non human shk's already. I think unnethack is one
16:55 <jonadab> SporkHack originated that, I think.
16:55 <jonadab> Grunt may also have it.
16:56 <Grasshopper> grunt has it
16:56 <jonadab> I think there are differences between some of the implementations, as well, in terms of what the available races are and what all implications they have.
17:02 <aosdict> I think most of the variants took a nerfy approach to non-human shopkeepers though, didn't they?
17:02 <aosdict> Like shopping as an elf and an orcish shopkeeper hates you and marks up prices
17:03 <jonadab> Generally, yes.
17:03 <jonadab> But I think the details are non-identical.
17:03 <aosdict> I never heard of a shopkeeper *reducing* prices for a same-race player.
17:04 <jonadab> Ah, that's an interesting point.
17:04 <jonadab> Perhaps they should.
17:04 <jonadab> Perhaps only certain races.
17:04 <aosdict> rikersan: possibly one reason for that is that the Cha modifiers are balanced so someone with more than 18 charisma will neither gain nor lose money buying and selling an item.
17:04 <jonadab> Likely not including orcs.
17:04 <aosdict> If you got further discounts, you could slowly farm all the shk's gold
17:05 <aosdict> 10% discount? Okay, I have 19 Cha so I'll buy this scroll of fire for 45 gold, then re-sell it for 50.
17:05 <rikersan> aosdict: makes sense, that's not hard to cap though
17:05 <jonadab> Maybe certain races of shopkeepers could treat same-race players as having a Cha bonus.
17:06 <aosdict> YANI: instead of giving a discount on the price directly, treat you like you have more or less Cha.
17:06 <jonadab> ^
17:06 <jonadab> Yes, that.
17:06 <aosdict> haha, great minds think alike, or something
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17:22 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 330 points, 796 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
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18:10 <rikersan> hm, what are the rules for beholder reporting wishes?
18:10 <rikersan> it sometimes does, sometimes doesn't
18:11 <K2> depends on how livelogging is implemented with that variant
18:11 <K2> Tangles added a lot to 3.6.1 dev
18:11 <K2> grunthack has a fair amount also
18:11 <K2> mileage will vary with other variants
18:11 <rikersan> dnh has shown my wishes before though
18:11 <rikersan> oh well
18:12 <K2> hmm
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18:12 <FIQ> I thought you guys ran 3.6.1-vanilla?
18:12 <FIQ> with no mods at all
18:12 <K2> only thing we added was livelogging
18:12 <FIQ> ok
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18:13 <FIQ> rikersan: if a variant sends something beholder doesn't expect
18:13 <FIQ> it stops livelogging permanently until restart
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18:13 <K2> dnh has been updated twice without beholder being restarted
18:13 <K2> well... until now
18:14 <K2> that shouldnt be necessary
18:14 <K2> and why is it, I can copy season 1 episodes 4,5 and 7 of Westworld, but not episode 6 from the same disc?
18:14 <rikersan> chris may have broke something, it's fine
18:15 <FIQ> I mean
18:15 <FIQ> dnethack has always been kinda bugg
18:15 <FIQ> y
18:15 <K2> its almost as bad as fiqhack
18:15 <K2> :P
18:15 <FIQ> :P
18:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 581 points, 475 turns, killed by a dart on hardfought
18:15 <FIQ> K2: it has gotten better though
18:16 <FIQ> people can actually play full games until ascension without encountering a single bug now
18:16 <K2> i am going to have to start wrapping most of my comments with <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags
18:16 <FIQ> why sarcasm?
18:16 <FIQ> it is true
18:16 <FIQ> well, was
18:16 <K2> no
18:16 <FIQ> fiqhack was really buggy back in the day
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18:17 <K2> you could say that all code ever written was buggy when it first came out
18:17 <FIQ> slex even references it, unlike for other variants (including dnh!)
18:17 <K2> of anything
18:17 <FIQ> src/pager.c
18:18 <FIQ> 5438:   "Konnichi wa Erotic Thai Bitch, welcome to FIQHack! You are a lawful female human Samurai. The game will crash whenever you fumble around with your bag of holding because the nethack4 system is teh crash0r.",
18:18 <FIQ> that particular bug was rather annoying
18:18 <FIQ> it was actually a NH4 bug, but for some reason fiqhack tripped it far more often
18:18 <FIQ> a lot of the time when you cancelled actions
18:18 <FIQ> the game would throw a fit
18:19 <FIQ> made it rather annoying to play
18:19 <K2> i am going to be really annoyed if i cant rip episode 6
18:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1040 points, 1359 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
18:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Law), 3063671 points, 78930 turns, ascended on hardfought
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1511469222.dn36.txt
18:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Webmant just earned the Hat Trick
18:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 212 points, 191 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought
18:35 <K2> episode 6 - success
18:35 <K2> whew
18:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2520 points, 2850 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought
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19:53 <Tangles> did not even see it coming.
19:55 <greqrg>  :/
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21:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 2 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought
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21:06 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 77 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought
21:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 28 points, 74 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought
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21:12 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 3 turns, killed by genocidal confusion on hardfought
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22:44 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3682 points, 7130 turns, killed by a rope golem on hdf-eu
22:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 163 points, 279 turns, killed by an anti-magic implosion on hdf-eu
22:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 59 points, 163 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought
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