01:10 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:13 -!- katung_ has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- katung has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:19 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:49 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 250 points, 351 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 01:49 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 16 points, 73 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 01:54 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 805 points, 1018 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 01:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 148 points, 255 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 02:00 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 360 points, 782 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu 02:12 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 02:12 -!- sebastiantoby is now known as Kontroller 02:14 -!- Kontroller is now known as Kontroller\unfoo 02:26 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2327 points, 4857 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 02:32 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 552 points, 1005 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 02:58 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:20 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 0 points, 5 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 03:21 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 6590 points, 5858 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted crocodile, while praying on hdf-au 03:27 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 185 points, 401 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-au 03:32 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 922 points, 2703 turns, killed by a werejackal, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 03:32 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 726 points, 421 turns, killed by a hobbit on hdf-au 03:50 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2393 points, 1398 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-au 04:02 -!- Porkmanthree has joined #hardfought 04:05 -!- Porkmantwo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:09 -!- Porkmanthree has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4706 points, 7280 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating an ogre king on hdf-eu 04:24 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 3247 points, 4226 turns, killed by a blue jelly on hdf-eu 04:42 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 159 points, 114 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 04:55 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2112 points, 2684 turns, killed by Ms. Pervari, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 04:55 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 3402 points, 4057 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 04:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:04 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 474 points, 976 turns, killed by a gnomish wizard on hdf-eu 05:09 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 569 points, 1026 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 05:28 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 578 points, 1175 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 05:30 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 339 points, 550 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 05:44 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! jonathanhanes accepted the Waldo challenge. 05:45 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 06:03 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:07 -!- katung_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:15 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4178 points, 3530 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hdf-au 06:15 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 06:21 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 183 points, 123 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hdf-au 06:30 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:30 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 07:02 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 576 points, 542 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 07:03 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 106 points, 338 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 07:03 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 07:04 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 175 points, 156 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 07:13 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 269 points, 514 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 07:14 DIED: OtsMcGee (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 238 points, 468 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hardfought 07:49 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2634 points, 5828 turns, killed by a winter wolf cub, while praying on hdf-eu 07:50 !rng keep zombie pet | lose him 07:50 rikersan: lose him 08:00 [13dnh] rikersan (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:19535 08:03 k2: my dnh game crashed :( 08:03 tried to reload (exited ssh and reconnected) 08:03 it says it can't recover 08:03 ok one sec 08:03 is there anythin you can do, or it just can't recover? :( 08:03 good timing btw 08:03 cuz I'm gonna be pissed if it's gone it was going great 08:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:04 looks like a segfault (dnethack generated a core dump) 08:05 so it's gone? 08:05 :( 08:05 no files to recover, however there's a backup of your last save from about 1 hour ago 08:05 that would work great if you can restore that 08:05 ok one sec 08:05 and I'll ping nero and chris about the segfault 08:05 was there any error msg in your terminal? 08:06 at what point? 08:06 it gave an error, cannot recover when I tried 08:06 but no it just froze when it crashed 08:06 I waited 15-20 seconds, then closed the terminal window and reconnected to hdf 08:06 ok 08:07 sometimes you can scroll up in the terminal window to catch any error msgs 08:07 anyways 08:07 save restored 08:08 thanks :D 08:08 no prob 08:09 like Chris_ANG know what you did in game right before the crash if you can remember 08:09 s/like/let 08:12 yep 08:12 this is like the 5th time it's crashed like this so 08:13 smth about going downstairs with things standing next to you I think, all times I've had a tame/peaceful non-stalker monster near me 08:13 eh 08:23 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 139881 points, 21286 turns, killed by an invisible lieutenant on hdf-eu 08:24 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 08:29 !rng polymorph | speed boots | magic missile 08:29 rikersan: speed boots 08:30 [13dnh] rikersan (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased speed boots", on T:16183 08:31 !rng polymorph | polymorph | polymorph | polymorph | polymorph | speed boots 08:31 FIQ: polymorph 08:31 fiq: are you trying to tell me something 08:31 >_> 08:33 !rng usetest earthquake | don't cuz that's dumb 08:33 rikersan: don't cuz that's dumb 08:33 [13dnh] rikersan (Dro-Wiz Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:16512 08:35 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 201 points, 520 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 08:45 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5144 points, 3724 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 08:47 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 50 points, 342 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hdf-eu 08:48 rikersan: it is rather clear that polymorph is the superior option 08:49 in a completely non-biased RNG 08:58 lol 08:58 I actually probably should have gone for magic missile spbk 08:58 or smth 08:59 I kinda need to kill stuff, and I've got an angry juiblex vs pre-quest wiz 08:59 (stupid same race sac) 09:20 K2: omitted the beehive colored walls 09:20 Why? 09:24 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31 FIQ: Some people object to having more than one color of walls on a level. (Others insist on it...) Personally I'm ambivalent about the matter. 09:31 jonadab: Wiztower already has a custom wall color 09:31 K2 only excluded beehives 09:31 for some reason 09:31 A dungeon that only has gray walls everywhere looks incredibly dull. 09:31 FIQ: Ok, but that's branch coloring. 09:31 ^ why slex has fleecy rooms :p 09:31 *^^ 09:31 ...? 09:32 wiztower is in Gehennom 09:32 Yes, but it's also its own branch. 09:32 It is not 09:32 Well, kind of. 09:33 The wiztower levels are definitely considered distinct levels from the surrounding gehennom. 09:33 But it is not a seperate branch 09:33 -!- Webmant has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:33 Hmm. It behaves as one. 09:33 Not in any way codewise 09:33 Maybe it's just a big pile of special cases then. 09:33 ...This is NetHack 09:33 Did you expect something else? 09:34 True. 09:34 YASI: embed Sokoban in the Dungeons of Doom, in similar fashion to how the wizard tower is embedded in Gehennom. You have to get to the level below Delphi to find the entrance to actually get into it. 09:35 -!- SenseiTav has joined #hardfought 09:35 hi 09:35 Hello SenseiTav, Welcome to #hardfought 09:35 lunch break is now 09:36 let's play NetHack. 09:38 FIQ: omitting beehive colored walls was purely a personal thing 09:39 never cared for the beehive walls having color, so I didnt add it 09:39 K2: Yes, I was afraid of that. I'm not sure if it is worthwhile to let purely personal (and very debatable!) taste get in the way of development for something public 09:39 But maybe that is just me 09:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:40 why not? everything we do is personal is it not? 09:40 I am not going to stress it, just saying that changing that just because "I don't like it" with no other reasons feel dubious to me when it comes to a non-personal project 09:40 there's no mandate that i'm aware of that dictates what changes you make to FIQhack is there? 09:41 Unless you consider GruntHack something fully your own at this point? 09:41 -!- Porkmanthree has joined #hardfought 09:41 k2 maintains it, right? 09:41 no one had touched it in over 5 years until we did... so yeah 09:41 but 09:41 K2: Fair enough then, I guess 09:42 that does not stop anyone else from taking it and making their own tweaks 09:42 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Rex completed the Joust challenge. 09:42 I mean, I've done several modifications/improvements (according to me) to the NH3 curses UI 09:42 but I've never *forced* changes upon anyone 09:42 everything that changed can be turned off/etc 09:42 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:43 really 09:43 so i can turn off wand balanace 09:43 (and generally defaults to the non-changed state) 09:43 K2: Did you read what I say? :P 09:43 I mentioned curses UI, not fiqhack 09:44 what I am trying to say is 09:44 ok we'll stay on gh 09:44 I consider my work on curses UI maintenance work 09:44 and not something personal 09:44 FIQ its open source. its not 'focing' anything on anybody 09:44 which is different 09:44 forcing 09:44 but maybe I'm the only one who sees it that way :P 09:44 prob are ;) 09:44 Mhm 09:45 oh no, i didnt add colored beehive walls. boycott grunthack on hdf! 09:45 hahahaha 09:46 well you should realize that I didn't consider it an "oh no, literally unplayable" thing 09:46 well thats good 09:46 i probably shouldnt mention the changes i'm making if anyone has 'fiq' in their username then... 09:46 token input: when i first released spork, people complained that i was forcing things on them; that i was requiring them to play a certain way, etc. etc. 09:46 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:46 for awhile i actually did make sure to put #ifdefs around most of my changes so that people could compile things out if they didn't want them 09:47 K2: well what I was trying to say was, I thought you considered your work on GruntHack purely maintenance work 09:47 initially yes 09:47 Which goes against the beehive-wall thing (which is a personal reason to change something) 09:47 but in practice (much like vanilla) people ran into option fatigue... with so many things to change, they changed none of them unless they found something annoying 09:47 That is why I questioned it 09:47 I mean, let's say this was K2hack or something, then I wouldn't have questioned it at all 09:48 so i quit giving people options unless it was something i knew that there was a chunk of people who wanted both A and B 09:48 And since you've said that yes, you consider the hdf grunthack version "yours" at this point, I'm not going to complain anymore 09:48 lorimer: makes sense 09:48 FIQ look at this way 09:48 as far as modifying other people's work i'm pretty sure i'm considered "biased" in that regard so i have no input there. also sacred cows make excellent cheeseburgers 09:48 lorimer: so like 3.4.3's million ifdefs of things basically nobody disable 09:49 09:49 like TOURIST 09:49 in a sense its OURS because we took it over and revitalized it 09:49 K2: mhm 09:49 however 09:49 FIQ: that was exactly it, yeah. paxed and i talked it over and were like "oh the hell with this, nobody undefs TOURIST" 09:49 its still open source 09:49 is grunthack like slashem + fiqhack? 09:49 stupid things + AI n QoL things 09:49 if you dont like what's hosted here, compile your own version, make the changes you want, and play it 09:49 yeah as said, I can agree with this view on the grunthack hdf version 09:49 just I didn't think this was your stance 09:50 so I was just going to ask about it, if you intended to let personal opinion alone change things, etc 09:50 initially it was just maintenance changes 09:50 but as time went by it became more personal 09:50 no gameplay changes!!!!!!!!11 :P 09:50 heh :P 09:50 * K2 pets his beholder 09:50 rikersan: not at all 09:51 no? 09:51 I'm seeings AI n stuff in the changelog 09:51 and then stupid things 09:51 grunthack happens to share basically the exact philosophy as initial fiqhack 09:51 its just more evil 09:51 however 09:51 grunt is also evil 09:51 but it isn't slash'em 09:51 slash'em is "let's add ALL the things" 09:52 grunt is more "let's flesh out what is there" 09:52 I mean 09:52 there's no new artifacts 09:52 no new items (aside from shimmering dragon scales+mail) 09:52 and I think only a single new monster (beholders) 09:52 GruntHack is "Oh, the game has wands of wishing? How can monsters use them to KILL YOU?" 09:53 Slash'em is "Balance? BOOOORING. Let's add light sabres, and grenades, and gypsies!" 09:53 (it also has shimmering dragons, but counting that is arguable since it is in vanilla too, just deferred) 09:53 fiq: oh, potions of wonder are fiqhakc specific? 09:53 urd 09:53 *yes 09:54 hm 09:54 well, slex has it too, but they aren't remotely similar 09:54 yeah 09:54 they're basically different items 09:54 I saw the slex one 09:54 random potion effect 09:54 that happens to have the same name 09:54 yea 09:54 fiq: so which should I play now? :p 09:54 fiq | grunt 09:54 lorimer: sacred cow is delicious btw 09:54 that is up to you really 09:54 gonna finish a monk run 09:55 as said 09:55 grunthack and fiqhack basically share the same philosophy 09:55 they just go about it in different ways 09:55 and several changes are shared between them (allthough not code) 09:56 they each have their own cool stuff 09:56 and stuff that makes them stand out 09:56 rikersan: oh, but fiqhack also has something else that grunt doesn't -- a major focus on convenience 09:56 Well, FIQHack also has some NH4 policy that GruntHack doesn't share. UI-wise, mainly. 09:56 so if you like that, play fiqhack 09:56 Things like the Interhack Principle. 09:56 fiq: that's true 09:57 hm 09:57 why does the "step on square" items-are-here thing show price 09:57 but not , 09:57 but fiqhack will not let you have dragonhide cloaks of magic resistance and reflection, nor will you die to a gnomish healer with a vorpal scalpel 09:57 for when there's multiple things on it 09:57 Compare what happens whan you are standing next to water and accidentally hit the key that would step you into the water, in FIQHack vs GruntHack. 09:57 yea 09:58 And yes, FIQHack says no to some of GruntHack's more extremely OP stuff. 09:58 grunthack lets you do some crazy stuff with armor/weapons 09:58 Like monsters using up the entire Castle wand of wishing on stuff to use against you. 09:58 And dragonhide gear, yeah. 09:58 Dragonhide boots of water walking and speed, etc. 09:58 but in fiqhack, you can blow everything up with skilled wands of death 09:58 are armor n stuff weightless when worn? 09:59 No. 09:59 not in either of the variants 09:59 huh 09:59 armor weights less in fiqhack though 09:59 then that armor is definitely carrying >_> 09:59 when worn 09:59 weightless armor? sign me up please 09:59 why does that not auto-id 09:59 what do you mean? 09:59 K2: Then everyone would just use CPM. 09:59 weapons n stuff do when you see them do stuff 09:59 carrying should auto-ID 09:59 :) 09:59 well, this magical splint mail isnt' 09:59 oh 09:59 pick it up, I'm burdened 10:00 put it on, I'm not 10:00 you are playing fiqhack? 10:00 yes 10:00 yeah, worn armor encumber less 10:00 ah ok 10:00 carrying, as in the property, will auto-ID 10:01 i understand armor 'weighing' less when you wear it, as your body is supporting the weight and not your arms 10:01 K2: indeed 10:01 therefore, i propose... the Backpack™ 10:01 it is implemented as a weight reduction 10:01 the bag you can wear 10:01 but yeah 10:01 that is the flavour 10:01 K2: But to get anything out of it, you have to doff it? 10:02 don/doff 10:02 hm 10:02 Which you can't do while overtaxed? 10:02 jonadab: ok same logic - cant wield a two-handed weapon if you're carrying a bag 10:02 or cast spells 10:02 K2: Actually, NetHack implies that all the stuff you're carrying is in some kind of pack. 10:03 knapsack 10:03 worn pack 10:03 Except for equipped gear. 10:03 yeah 10:03 !rng telepathy | vegetarian 10:03 rikersan: vegetarian 10:03 k then 10:03 jonadab: have 52 seperate inventory slots of loadstones 10:03 the game will not allow you to pickup a single dart 10:03 but damn it'd be cool to find a backpack w/ extra pockets 10:04 MOLLE ready too 10:05 jonadab: clearly the adventurer's knapsack is a magical one with 52 compartments 10:05 Gurgi's wallet? 10:05 there is no issue fitting anything room-wise 10:05 but it will still weight you down 10:05 and trying to make one compartment shared among different item types will cause bad things 10:06 hm, fiqhack zombies are bad 10:07 now there's like 15 peaceful ones 10:07 gh zombies are worse 10:07 cuz I used a figurine of one and it was peaceful 10:07 :P 10:07 well yeah 10:07 I've fought those in slex :p 10:07 Brogue zombies are terrifying. 10:08 yes 10:08 and i still don't get why people say "oh yeah just light it on fire" 10:09 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1801 points, 4059 turns, killed by a wererat on hdf-eu 10:09 rikersan: In some cases you can do that, but you need a cleared retreat path that's nice and long. 10:09 ooh nice, lightning pickaxe 10:09 Or fire immunity. 10:09 jonadab: tha'ts still not a good idea though but yea 10:09 they burn forever 10:10 For about a level and a half, in my experience. 10:10 (A dungeon level and a half worth of retreating out of their path, I mean.) 10:10 [10fh] monk (rikersan) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 36810 points, T:2108, killed by an ettin 10:10 And you better hope nothing gets in your way and delays you long enough for their burning nausea cloud to catch up with you. 10:10 fucking polytraps 10:10 they should burn in hell 10:10 rikersan: fire traps burn in hell. 10:11 well, let's have polytraps do that too, eh? 10:11 I swear to god 10:11 I knew there was one, I got the ripping message 10:11 but srsly 10:11 that was a grand total of 1 turn to die ;-; 10:11 not even any sleep to put him down 10:11 Oh, the ettin? 10:11 yes 10:11 It can get much worse than that. 10:12 well yeah 10:12 rikersan: but in fiqhack, you can displace peacefuls 10:12 he was hostile? 10:12 so it doesn't seem all that bad 10:12 oh 10:12 yea 10:12 I thought you said peaceful 10:12 nope 10:12 I've had a polytrap in the Mines give me multiple Gehennom-level enemies. 10:12 just "fucking ettin", "fucking polytrap" 10:12 jonadab: well my last polytrap gave me a MMF 10:12 That is a good example of worse than an ettin, yes. 10:13 my dnh adventures have given me a balrog and ice devil, at the same time 10:13 (ironic too - fire n ice explosions) 10:13 in addition to MMF, acid paraelemental, and ice paraelemental 10:13 fiq: if I made a PR removing all polytraps from the game, would you merge it into fiqhack >_> 10:13 no 10:14 however I can see softcapping it 10:14 Softcapping, like Fourk does? 10:14 Or capping the number of such traps? 10:14 to only allow +-3HD per trigger 10:14 ^ 10:14 Ah. 10:14 I see. 10:14 That could be useful. 10:14 just make polytraps behave like in slex, where it's highly unlikely that a monster triggering it turns into something of much higher level ;) 10:14 so it can still get bad 10:15 but the chance is lower 10:15 and its more gradual 10:15 Though that would be annoying for pacifists. 10:15 jonadab: hence softcap 10:15 you can get it up to large levels 10:15 Only tediously. 10:15 Because half the time, or more, you get something of _lower_ level. 10:15 yes, but polytrap dancing is already tedious as-is 10:16 there needs to be better ways to gain good pets 10:16 Fourk addresses this by making the thing wear out after a few tries. 10:16 So you take what you get that's decent and move on. 10:16 making it completely useless in the process 10:16 Or else you get stuck with whatever you get when it conks out. 10:16 a large amount of polyforms are worthless 10:16 True. 10:16 so most likely what will happen is that you pull your large cat inside one 10:16 try for 3 times 10:16 it goes poof 10:17 and now you have a warg 10:17 at best' 10:17 -' 10:17 Well, note that you can go deeper and find another polytrap (hopefully) and try some more. The deeper you go, the better polytraps are at lasting. 10:17 yes 10:17 But yes, there's no guarantee that you can necessarily get the specific outcome you want. 10:18 polytraps are also so common 10:18 so that this is very easy to dor 10:18 *do 10:18 Heh. 10:18 or not 10:18 I think I had like 10:18 4 polytraps 10:18 *overall* 10:18 in my NH3 paci 10:18 before castle 10:18 I'm still salty about my pacifist run getting ruined 10:18 and that was with trap detection' 10:18 -'' 10:18 +' 10:19 rikersan: What happened? 10:19 fountain quaffed for figurine of angel, barely made it alive 10:19 floor below minetown, polytrap hit 10:19 superpowerful angel became leprechaun 10:20 @d?surya deva 10:20 No such monster. 10:20 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! jonathanhanes completed the Waldo challenge. 10:20 rikersan: Ah. 10:20 I still had a dancing blade, so it wasn't horrible 10:20 but I'd already techinically broke pacifist so 10:20 rikersan: If it hadn't been a polytrap, it would've been a trap door, or a levelport trap, or something. 10:21 lol 10:21 (passive attack from my race counts apparently) 10:21 There's always something. 10:21 I stumbled upon a wiki article that consisted of 3 sentences 10:21 jonadab: no, I've gotten level tele'd and trap-door'ed away already 10:21 and had one of these templates about multiple issues 10:21 listing 4 issues 10:21 that is a lot of issues for 3 sentences 10:21 I just sprinted and anything that hit me died to passive 10:21 ^ that broke pacifist though so 10:21 reminds me, I should ping chris about that 10:22 FIQ: scroll of create familiar that can occasionally summon out of depth pets? ;) 10:22 ADOM has that 10:22 Makes more balance sense than the spell. 10:22 the spell is just a tame version of create monster 10:23 technically OP because it can generate infinite monsters 10:23 tame to you 10:23 including stuff like captains 10:23 and stuff that normally doesn't appear tame 10:23 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 10:23 but it's such a crapshoot that you're much better off with charm monster 10:24 Hmm, perhaps it shouldn't generate always-hostile monsters. 10:24 it should be made level 2 and only summon domesticated monsters 10:24 Ah. 10:24 then it's kinda useless IMO 10:24 Or maybe from a dedicated list? 10:24 Summon Nasties has a dedicated list, why can't Create Familiar have one? 10:25 you mean "only summon domesticated" isn't a dedicated list? :P 10:25 but what would such a list contain 10:25 I meant that the list could be expanded a little beyond that. 10:25 jonadab: make it based on skill 10:25 Oh, maybe. 10:25 only summon kittens/little dogs if unskilled 10:25 Unskilled -> kittens and puppies, yeah. 10:25 Basic -> any domestic 10:26 maybe basic can upgrade it into housecats/dogs/ponies/horses and something extra 10:26 skilled goes beyond domestic stuff 10:26 Skilled -> any d or u 10:26 expert summons actually good things 10:26 jonadab: and f 10:26 and f, yes. 10:26 expert -> anything normally tameable, up to 3 levels below yours? 10:26 Nothing in d, u, or f is _very_ OP. 10:26 jonadab: clearly expert should use the nasty list 10:27 so master mind flayers are a result? :D 10:27 Hmm. 10:27 jonadab: not including unicorns, right? 10:27 then maybe monsters might actually use it in FIQHack :P 10:27 cuz you shouldn't be able to get tame cross-aligned unicorns 10:27 I was thinking expert, anything that can be generated peaceful, except for NPC-grade things (shopkeeper, priest, guard, etc.) 10:27 But that might be OP, becuase Archons can be peaceful if you're lawful. 10:28 rikersan: Maybe only co-aligned unicorns. 10:28 so you go from skilled 10:28 which can generate tigers 10:28 to expert 10:28 which can't? 10:28 sounds a bit weird 10:28 Oh, hmm. 10:28 Good point. 10:28 Maybe just a bigger list for Expert. 10:28 remove the kittens 10:28 add q? 10:28 little dogs 10:28 etc 10:28 add q and w? 10:28 ^ 10:28 ooh so you can get purple worms 10:28 nice 10:28 makes purple worms feasible yea 10:29 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1672432 points, 35458 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1511313015.dn36.txt 10:29 congrats luxidream 10:29 and 3 wishes left, nice 10:30 *5 10:32 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 232 points, 1538 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 10:37 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 10:39 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 7296 points, 6075 turns, killed by a crocodile on hdf-eu 10:39 DIED: thisisdeuce (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1503 points, 2527 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 10:40 YANI: higher skill in a spell class reduces pw cost 10:40 -!- SenseiTav has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:41 DIED: Luxidream (Ran-Gno-Fem-Neu), 183 points, 276 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 10:42 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:42 rikersan: there's an idea kicking around, originally by FIQ I think, where we do away with spell failure rates and simply increase Pw cost based on what the failure rate would have been. 10:42 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 10:43 I kind of like that. 10:43 -!- hpardis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43 intended as a nerf to 90% fail utility spell spam and such 10:43 rikersan: implemented in slex :) 10:45 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 10:46 hm, that's a good idea aosdict 10:46 also, srsly fiq? 10:46 mercy autocurses when you wield it, but isn't gen'd cursed? 10:46 no fair 10:47 YANI: remove the 90.5% chance to generate an amulet of change cursed, and make it normal amulet curse odds. 10:48 rikersan, welcome to slashem extended 10:48 this is fiqhack :p 10:48 I like slex better 10:48 aosdict; yeah, I kinda agree 10:48 rikersan: ♥ 10:48 ther'es no downside to change 10:48 OON you too larien 10:48 :p 10:49 ah, I keep forgetting that :D 10:49 well, <3 10:49 what's "your conscience bothers you" mean? 10:49 just -alignmenet? 10:49 and it is serious? 10:50 [10fh] grunthack is better (rikersan) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 33576 points, T:1442, killed by a fire ant, while praying 10:50 aw dang 10:50 rikersan: mercy is a major trouble 10:50 welded mercy, that is 10:50 Mercy, is that like in Brogue? Eep. 10:50 oh, is it? 10:51 rikersan: yes 10:51 jonadab: think so yeah 10:51 jonadab: no 10:51 it's worse 10:51 well, it wasn't a huge deal 10:51 Worse! 10:51 I was a wizard and it didn't block my spells 10:51 in brogue 10:51 mercy will randomly heal things 10:51 in fiqhack 10:51 mercy inverts damage 10:51 it always does 10:51 always 10:51 inverts damage? 10:51 if you would deal 20 damage 10:51 if you would have dealt 4 damage 10:51 you deal 20 healing 10:51 Ah. 10:51 you heal 4 instead 10:52 So it's just like in Brogue except procs 100% of the time. 10:52 it still counts as pet abuse though, right? 10:52 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 383 points, 1062 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 10:52 otherwise I can see a pacifist using a mercy +9 silver saber 10:52 rikersan: no 10:52 maybe the autocursing is mean 10:52 FIQ: Did you also implement weapons of plenty and armor of burden? 10:52 but I mean 10:53 then there is no downside 10:53 since you can just unwield 10:53 jonadab: armor of burden... interesting! 10:53 like reverse carrying 10:53 plenty... meh 10:53 fiq: it should always be gen'd cursed 10:53 or 90% chance 10:53 FIQ: Armor of burden increases its weight every time you get hit. 10:53 rikersan: 90% 10:53 ah, is it already? 10:53 no 10:53 kk 10:53 I mean maybe it should be 90% 10:53 It's quite nasty in Brogue, if you can't remove it quickly. 10:53 instead of autocursing 10:54 no, autocurse is fine 10:54 but it should also be normally gen'd curse 10:54 cursed 10:54 like helm of OA 10:54 ahh 10:54 so you can informally quasi-id it as mercy 10:54 Because armor that weighs more, in Brogue, makes your AC worse. 10:54 not foolproof, since other runics can be cursed too 10:54 jonadab: fun 10:54 FIQ: Yes. 10:54 It's arguably worse than armor of immolation. 10:54 jonadab: if I were to implement burden 10:55 I would probably just make it lower carrycap to like 75% 10:55 stacking 10:55 (Armor of immolation wouldn't be nearly as bad in NetHack, because you can get permanent fire resistance.) 10:55 FIQ: Yeah, that'd probably be enough. 10:55 EPI: armor of damnation, secretly makes your AC as if it was 10 10:56 The point of these negative runics in Brogue is to incentivize quaff-identifying potions before use-identifying any weapons or armor. 10:56 hidden of course? 10:56 and generated with abnormally high enchantments? 10:56 rikersan: yes, "secretly" 10:56 Wait, so your Def reports as something like 14, but it is actually 0? 10:56 yeah 10:57 That's fairly nasty. 10:57 I did say "EPI" :P 10:57 Yes. 10:58 EPI: armor of falling. Every few turns, it causes you to fall through the floor. 10:58 adom has damnation 10:59 but there is is basically equavilent to having a cursed luckstone 10:59 except much worse 11:00 EPI: armor of erosion. Every turn it picks an element (water, fire, cold, acid, etc.) and causes random things in your inventory to sustain damage if they're vulnerable to that element. 11:01 that's not a bad idea for an object property maybe, but too fancy 11:01 every turn it picks an element and deals dmg to the enemy of that typ 11:01 type 11:01 That'd be a weapon property 11:02 weapon of the elements 11:02 EPI: make polymorphitis an armor property 11:02 ^ 11:02 and not 90% cursed 11:02 the fun thing is that most of those EPIs are already in slex ;) 11:02 Of course they are. 11:03 EPI: rings of levitation autocurse when worn. 11:03 adom rings of the fish (magical breathing) does 11:05 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:07 Does that one have a downside, other than using up the ring slot? 11:10 no 11:10 but it's the kind of thing you would optimally just swap on need 11:10 so adom autocurses it 11:10 to make it harder 11:11 I mentioned it because levi is also a swap ring 11:11 LarienTelrunya: does elona have dooming? 11:12 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 32 points, 194 turns, killed by a contaminated potion on hdf-eu 11:12 well, it has doomed items, which are basically heavily cursed; in elona, cursed items are seriously dangerous and doomed ones doubly so 11:12 your character cannot be cursed/doomed though; there are a few crippling status effects like sickness, pregnancy and anorexia but they're all different 11:13 ahh 11:14 adom has dooming 11:14 it is not a very good intrinsic 11:14 lol, I thought you were, well, doomed if you are doomed, as in "monsters always hit you for max damage and you rarely hit anything" 11:14 yes 11:14 that is basically what it does 11:14 and it has a bunch of other bad effects 11:15 (I've read an adom LP once) 11:15 it is the only time you can be eaten by grues in ADOM 11:15 in darkness 11:16 gods zapping monsters with divine lightning will misfire at you 11:16 if you're doomed 11:16 for example 11:16 heh, I guess it tries to make it so that everything, not only monsters, is trying to kill you 11:17 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2329 points, 1888 turns, killed by a straw golem on hardfought 11:17 the god will apologize 11:19 &lastgame 11:19 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/dn36/dumplog/1511376786.dn36.txt 11:20 this death is kinda weird 11:20 look at the msglog 11:20 what happened? 11:21 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 335 points, 779 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 11:21 "Gave over:" really? I guess that's fixed in devel? :P 11:21 or is it intentional? 11:21 I've been wondering about that too 11:21 also what's so weird about that death? when you're burdened, normal speed monsters like straw golems may double-turn you 11:24 that was not 2 turns 11:24 it was like 5 11:25 @v?straw golem 11:25 straw golem (08,01') | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d2 claw physical, 1d2 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: breathless, mindless, vegan 11:25 You feel better. Lishus misses the straw golem. The kitten bites! The straw golem hits! The straw golem hits! Lishus bites the straw golem. The straw golem misses lishus. The straw golem misses lishus. The kitten bites! Lishus bites the straw golem. The straw golem hits lishus. The straw golem misses lishus. The kitten bites! The straw golem hits! The straw golem hits! You die... 11:25 if the golem gets two attacks per turn, he got two turns against the player 11:25 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3308 points, 3842 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai on hardfought 11:25 he did 4 attacks 11:25 not 2 11:26 because the golem has 2 attacks per turn 11:26 (8 attacks, but 4 times since he has 2 attacks per turn) 11:26 I count 4 seperate attacks 11:26 monsters retaliating against other monsters (the player's cat in this time) doesn't use up their movement energy though 11:27 hmm 11:27 even a speed 1 monster (I dunno, creeping mold? lichen?) has the same chance of retaliating against your speed 24 warhorse 11:27 and even if the creeping mold wouldn't get a turn for the next 8 or so turns 11:29 "The kitten bites! The straw golem hits! The straw goelm hits! You die..." Looks to me like the straw golem got two hits in one turn. Which matches its wiki article: claw 1d2, claw 1d2. 11:29 jonadab: 4 hits 11:29 heal self 11:29 (The retaliation-against-pet thing is because 3.x doesn't let monsters attack pets _except_ in retaliation. NH4 changes this.) 11:29 pet misses golem 11:30 cat hits mtf 11:30 golem hits mtf 11:30 pet hits golem 11:30 golem hits pet 11:30 cat hits mtf 11:30 pet hits golem 11:30 golem hits pet 11:30 cat hits 11:30 *mtf 11:30 golem hits mtf 11:30 mtf dies 11:32 Not all player actions result in a message. 11:33 I am assuming the player did _something_ right before the pet acted. 11:34 no 11:34 for me it seems the monsters just got a double turn since the player was burdened 11:34 mtf healed 11:34 to full health 11:34 then he died 11:34 never be burdened, it's a killer :D 11:34 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 11:34 this is 3.6.0 11:34 FIQ: Hmm, well, I'd have to look at the ttyrec then. 11:34 3.6.0 monster speed is evil 11:41 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 11:44 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 11:52 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 11:54 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4695 points, 5078 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hdf-eu 11:56 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] 11:58 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:10 YANI: dragons should be able to use the spell of opening to open doors that can't open with their claws 12:10 dragons should simply be able to use spells 12:10 or any monster without hands 12:11 yeah 12:13 but knock doesn't actually open doors, it just unlocks so you still have to use your hands 12:13 I was thinking of the bell of opening 12:14 and when you knock on a door, usually it opens without you using your hands in real life 12:14 when someone else is there 12:19 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:23 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 855 points, 2325 turns, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 12:24 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 12:29 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 12:30 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 12:31 [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 47390 points, T:9145, killed by a rope golem 12:33 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 313 points, 1379 turns, choked on an egg on hardfought 12:34 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 12:36 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 422 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 12:39 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 68 points, 411 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 12:39 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:40 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1347 points, 1409 turns, killed by a rock mole, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 12:41 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 182 points, 223 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 12:42 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 82 points, 120 turns, killed by an arrow on hardfought 12:43 DIED: thisisdeuce (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 111 points, 607 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 12:43 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:44 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 319 points, 1027 turns, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 12:45 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 0 points, 66 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 12:45 [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1536 points, T:15, escaped 12:47 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 73 points, 207 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-eu 12:49 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:50 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:50 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:52 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 12:53 [06nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 24215 points, T:771, killed by a gnome lord 12:54 CHALLENGE IGNORED! thisisdeuce ignored the Grue challenge. 12:56 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:00 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 641 points, 1569 turns, killed by a wererat on hardfought 13:03 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08 -!- elenmirie\splat has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:25 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 13:27 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 233 points, 210 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 13:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:33 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 13:40 -!- HTTPS has quit [] 13:51 DIED: firemonkey (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1961 points, 2129 turns, killed by a white unicorn on hardfought 13:58 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 315 points, 522 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 14:02 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:02 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 14:03 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:04 [06nh4] seabass (seabass1211) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 24324 points, T:1036, quit 14:06 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 899 points, 1692 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 14:07 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:08 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 14:11 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 424 points, 655 turns, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu 14:14 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 14:18 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 900 points, 3904 turns, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 14:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:23 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 14:28 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 840 points, 5770 turns, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 14:29 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 16 points, 554 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 14:36 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 93 points, 133 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 14:39 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2517 points, 2195 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on hardfought 14:40 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 14:41 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 67 points, 537 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 14:47 -!- Porkmanthree has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:50 -!- Porkmanthree has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 15:04 -!- Porkmanthree has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 15:11 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:12 ASCENDED: eitwinston (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1749214 points, 55700 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitwinston/dn36/dumplog/1510713148.dn36.txt 15:14 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 10032 points, 8209 turns, killed by a spotted jelly on hardfought 15:27 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 230 points, 478 turns, killed by a boiling potion on hardfought 15:32 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 15:33 -!- StatueSurfer_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44 ASCENDED: squolly (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1541592 points, 30048 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/squolly/dn36/dumplog/1511285114.dn36.txt 15:44 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45 TROPHY: squolly just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top 15:49 congrats, squolly! 15:53 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 15:56 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed historic ring of free action", on T:46647 16:04 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 16:06 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:07 [13dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23842 16:08 ASCENDED: davez (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 3999962 points, 52516 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/davez/dn36/dumplog/1511127068.dn36.txt 16:09 TROPHY: davez just earned the Dilithium Star 16:14 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:15 RIP surya deva 16:15 -!- Menchie has joined #hardfought 16:18 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 10852 points, 8078 turns, killed by an invisible stalker on hardfought 16:21 -!- HTTPS has quit [] 16:24 -!- Tariru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25 DIED: k2 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 329 points, 1217 turns, killed by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 16:28 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed A'gone, on T:48932 16:28 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:32 DIED: k2 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 763 points, 917 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 16:33 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 787214 points, 27094 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1511376299.dn36.txt 16:34 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:37 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:45 [13dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:25954 16:51 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 13867 points, 8442 turns, killed by a Green-elf, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 16:52 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Kontroller completed the Joust challenge. 17:07 DIED: Wolfechu (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 146645 points, 27664 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought 17:10 DIED: Wolfechu (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 201 points, 355 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 17:12 DIED: k2 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2590 points, 2962 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hardfought 17:22 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 8758 points, 9924 turns, killed by a warg on hardfought 17:30 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 17:36 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 17:46 DIED: Wolfechu (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 5277 points, 4628 turns, killed by a warg on hardfought 17:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 17:52 -!- Desktop has joined #hardfought 17:56 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:04 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:04 ASCENDED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 7256300 points, 129833 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1511049035.dn36.txt 18:05 DIED: greqrg (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 763 points, 1378 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 18:06 TROPHY: Webmant now holds the Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry) and Highest Scored Caveman 18:06 TROPHY: Webmant just earned the Double Top 18:09 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 18:10 hello guys 18:11 hi Webmant 18:11 congrats on all those trophies 18:11 i had just ascended with the new top score for both caveman and overall, however, despite showing up on the trophy page (https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/trophies.html) on the top of the scorelist, I am not getting 5 points for achieving top score 18:11 the 2 points for top score for caveman registered though 18:12 https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/players/Webmant.html 18:12 Theres the link as proof 18:12 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 18:15 -!- Kontroller\unfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:18 -!- SenseiTav has joined #hardfought 18:18 Hola 18:18 Hello SenseiTav, Welcome to #hardfought 18:29 -!- SenseiTav has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:33 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:37 -!- SenseiTav has joined #hardfought 18:37 Hallo 18:37 Hello SenseiTav, Welcome to #hardfought 18:39 DIED: Luxidream (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 7748 points, 9137 turns, killed by a priestess of Athena, while paralyzed by a monster on hardfought 18:40 DIED: k2 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 305 points, 618 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 18:44 hi SenseiTav 18:49 hi K2 18:49 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! greqrg accepted the Pool challenge. 18:52 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! greqrg completed the Pool challenge. 18:53 DIED: k2 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1347 points, 1219 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 18:59 DIED: zaga (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 7946 points, 5595 turns, killed by a winter wolf, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 19:00 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2138 points, 4978 turns, choked on a fortune cookie on hardfought 19:01 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 3145 points, 2802 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 19:04 hey k2 19:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:18 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 19:28 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7932 points, 3734 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a warhorse on hardfought 19:32 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 248 points, 2308 turns, killed by an orc-captain on hardfought 19:38 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 176 points, 570 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 19:41 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 331 points, 550 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 19:42 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 19:42 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 94 points, 246 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 19:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:49 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 413 points, 843 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 20:07 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:27 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 20:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 244 points, 2081 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 20:34 -!- SenseiTav has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:35 DIED: Webmant (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 5914 points, 18192 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 20:36 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:44 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 20:46 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 461 points, 1618 turns, killed by a coyote on hardfought 20:47 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Leggman completed the Waldo challenge. 20:56 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 21:14 DIED: Leggman (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 9218 points, 10388 turns, killed by a gnome, while praying on hardfought 21:40 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 21:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 21:59 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 411 points, 437 turns, killed by touching Sting on hardfought 22:05 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 22:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 22:08 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1231 points, 1290 turns, killed by sitting on an iron spike on hardfought 22:10 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:24 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:25 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1018 points, 1951 turns, killed by a contact-poisoned spellbook on hardfought 22:28 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 22:29 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 22:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 22:31 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4832 points, 3514 turns, killed by an orc-captain on hdf-au 22:33 ASCENDED: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3492358 points, 51016 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dn36/dumplog/1511121579.dn36.txt 22:35 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3412 points, 3248 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 22:35 TROPHY: jonathanhanes now holds the Highest Scored Tourist 22:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 295 points, 1107 turns, killed by a boulder on hdf-eu 22:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 20 points, 116 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 22:39 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 22:40 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 316 points, 374 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt on hdf-eu 22:41 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 294 points, 235 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 22:42 just wanna say thanks to K2 and tangles and everyone else involved for putting this tournament together 22:42 it has been a blast and i'm glad i could partake 22:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 22:45 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 180 points, 784 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 22:45 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 22:46 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 122 points, 364 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 22:48 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 742 points, 661 turns, poisoned by a little dart on hdf-eu 22:54 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4230 points, 3690 turns, poisoned by Juiblex on hardfought 23:05 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3754 points, 2731 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 23:14 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1968 points, 1706 turns, killed by a black naga hatchling on hardfought 23:29 -!- noty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:34 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 23:58 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 456 points, 522 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 23:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 144 points, 73 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu