00:11 [10fh] Johny IV (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 28501 points, T:2863, killed by a giant ant 00:14 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 00:15 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1684 points, 2469 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 00:15 !rng orb | mirror 00:15 Jonathanhanes: mirror 00:30 mirrors are much lighter and just as shiny? 00:32 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 00:34 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 12236 points, 12088 turns, killed by a troll on hardfought 00:37 DIED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1940 points, 1849 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 00:38 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43 DIED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 324 points, 616 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 00:54 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 683 points, 1661 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 00:59 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 193 points, 581 turns, killed by a large mimic on hdf-eu 01:11 yah but no 1/2 spell damage 01:12 and not as many gains from carrying around a heavy piece of glass 01:12 and no levelport 01:34 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1977 points, 1833 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 01:42 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1668 points, 1217 turns, killed by a gray ooze on hdf-eu 01:44 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 01:51 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 384 points, 1078 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 01:52 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 176 points, 196 turns, fell into a pit on hdf-eu 02:00 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1119 points, 843 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 02:27 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 805 points, 1251 turns, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 02:32 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 02:36 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:37 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 390 points, 1425 turns, killed by a newt on hdf-eu 02:49 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1039 points, 1620 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 02:56 -!- Kontroller is now known as Kontroller\unfoo 03:21 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:26 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 650 points, 36442 turns, killed by a blast of fire on hdf-eu 04:23 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3091 points, 3741 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu 04:23 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:27 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.1/20171002220106]] 04:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:38 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:48 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 491 points, 1152 turns, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 04:56 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4659 points, 2270 turns, killed by a horse on hdf-eu 05:08 [10fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of TKirby, the former Conjurer, on T:4187 05:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 05:12 DIED: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 322 points, 3215 turns, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 05:12 !tell bhaak "One thing I found out is that if a shopkeep has no money, he'll do this partial ID for anything dropped in his shop for free." is this a bug? regarding tourist price ID in un 05:12 Will do, FIQ! 05:12 -!- spontiff has quit [] 05:31 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 695 points, 570 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 05:35 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 356 points, 567 turns, killed by an arrow on hdf-eu 05:52 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1135 points, 3781 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 05:54 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 05:55 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1634 points, 2508 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 05:57 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:01 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1729 points, 2281 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 06:04 DIED: eitkrog (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 6199 points, 5050 turns, killed by a wolf on hardfought 06:05 ASCENDED: Tariru (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 108914 points, 71305 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1510693804.dn36.txt 06:05 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 530 points, 879 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 06:06 TROPHY: Tariru now holds the Lowest Scored Ascension 06:06 TROPHY: Tariru just earned the Full Monty 06:15 nice! 06:16 tariru's in #NetHack , seemingly afk tho 06:16 good time to catch a deep breath and rub one's eyes maybe 06:16 He's talking in #devnull_nethack 06:16 oh right, that room, drat 06:16 THE BOT ROOM 06:17 got an irc log? 06:18 Of that channel? Not sure. 06:35 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:43 -!- Tariru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 936 points, 2087 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 06:52 [13dnh] rikersan (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6708 06:55 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:01 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 494 points, 834 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu 07:02 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 07:07 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 407 points, 1094 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 07:13 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2340 points, 5444 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 07:17 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3035 points, 3567 turns, killed by a lizard on hardfought 07:19 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2130 points, 2886 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hdf-eu 07:24 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:26 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 832 points, 1691 turns, killed by Mr. Akalapi, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 07:26 DIED: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2077 points, 2533 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 07:30 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 672 points, 1030 turns, killed by a red naga hatchling on hdf-eu 07:38 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 13384 points, 5515 turns, killed by an ogre lord on hdf-eu 07:43 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 364 points, 379 turns, killed by Ms. Wonotobo, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 07:54 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! arnibald accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 07:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:00 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1718 points, 1950 turns, killed by a watchman on hdf-eu 08:03 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 402 points, 1519 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 08:06 -!- Guest99240 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:07 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5070 points, 923 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hdf-eu 08:07 trying and failing 08:20 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased magic marker", on T:42753 08:20 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 gauntlets of spell power", on T:42754 08:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest65865 08:21 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 150178 points, 28400 turns, killed by an invisible Angel on hdf-eu 08:26 ASCENDED: sluggoman (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5034788 points, 69937 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/dn36/dumplog/1509864530.dn36.txt 08:28 TROPHY: sluggoman just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Birdie 08:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 163192 points, 19770 turns, killed by an ettin on hdf-eu 08:39 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:40 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3228 points, 1237 turns, killed by a gargoyle on hdf-eu 08:41 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:42 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 grandmaster's robe", on T:43462 08:52 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1405 points, 774 turns, killed by a raven on hdf-eu 08:52 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 8955 points, 5464 turns, killed by an ape on hardfought 08:54 -!- joemaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:55 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:44492 08:57 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:44667 08:59 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 stormhelm", on T:44745 09:00 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1965 points, 4310 turns, killed by a centipede on hdf-eu 09:00 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 4993 points, 6612 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 09:02 oooooh 09:05 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 377 points, 312 turns, killed by an iguana on hdf-eu 09:05 ASCENDED: squolly (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2388942 points, 48288 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/squolly/dn36/dumplog/1510767710.dn36.txt 09:05 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 quicksilver", on T:46029 09:06 TROPHY: squolly now holds the Highest Scored Archeologist 09:06 TROPHY: squolly just earned the Dilithium Star 09:08 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! jonathanhanes completed the Pac-Man challenge. 09:12 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 09:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 09:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:14 -!- joemaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:15 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7510 points, 7714 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while praying on hardfought 09:17 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1496 points, 2067 turns, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 09:17 -!- joemaro_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:18 brilliant game 09:19 6 artiwishes, 6 artifacts 09:20 DIED: aoei (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 335 points, 1193 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 09:23 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! aoei accepted the Grue challenge. 09:30 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 389 points, 1443 turns, killed by a giant bat on altorg 09:32 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 480 points, 151 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 09:38 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 344 points, 482 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 09:38 DIED: jmcunx (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 484 points, 2888 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 09:38 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41 hey, so if I get orctown as orc barb will i jus have a bunch of peacefuls? 09:42 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 1572 points, T:1569, killed by a dwarf 09:43 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 784 points, 459 turns, eaten by a Grue on hdf-eu 09:43 shit 09:44 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 22 points, 131 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 09:46 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 482 points, 765 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 09:48 DIED: Leggman (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 80 points, 32 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hardfought 09:48 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 09:48 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 124 points, T:462, killed by shredding of the soul 09:48 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 09:52 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 722 points, 1266 turns, killed by a little dog on hdf-eu 09:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:52 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2060 points, 3444 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 09:53 Beholder: messages? 10:03 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2164 points, 2035 turns, killed by a watchman on hdf-eu 10:03 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 894 points, 1299 turns, killed by a paper golem on hardfought 10:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Changing host] 10:04 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:05 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2505 points, 6298 turns, killed by a giant ant, while sleeping on hdf-eu 10:06 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 327 points, 548 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 10:09 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 364 points, 442 turns, killed by a little dog called Slasher on hardfought 10:11 -!- notzmv has joined #hardfought 10:13 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2425 points, 1106 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 10:13 ASCENDED: Tangles (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1416442 points, 14382 turns, ascended on hdf-au https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dn36/dumplog/1510868437.dn36.txt 10:13 congrats, Tangles! 10:13 Thanks :) 10:13 gz :) 10:14 TROPHY: Tangles now holds the Lowest Turn-count Ascension 10:14 TROPHY: Tangles just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) 10:14 hmm, nobody seriously competing for minimum turns this year? 10:15 ais523: Yes. I am. I'm just not very good at it apparently :P 10:15 ais523, I've been sort of trying 10:16 ais523: nht did a few attempts I think 10:16 -!- aeoi is now known as aoei\splat 10:16 in the end *I* ended up with the starting kit nht kept trying for lol 10:16 ais523, but not doing so well 10:16 and then didn't try going for minturns anyway because I wanted to just ascend... splatted on astral :P 10:16 FIQ, which starting kit was that+ 10:17 I found a WoW on about T:550 one game, then splatted. 10:17 aoei\splat: within the first level of mines, I had 10:17 =oPC, /oPoly, any other goodies 10:17 speed boots, wand of polymorph, amulet of unchanging, ring of polymorph, ring of polymorph control 10:17 nice 10:17 I decided to go polyselfed for most of that game for fun 10:17 I forgot that polyself doesn't exercise attributes though 10:17 so my max HP was absolutely disgusting 10:18 coupled with a 3.6.0 change where you can't nom Rider brains anymore is why I lost so easily on Astral 10:18 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 10:18 also I ended up using xorn for my "digging" needs 10:18 because digdug was lost after an awful spawn 10:19 had to polyself into a xorn to deal with Earth :P 10:19 aoei\splat: on astral I had like 80 max HP at XL19. Without Death intervention 10:20 I haven't seen worse 10:20 I think I've ascended with less in 3.4.3 10:20 lmao 10:20 Rider displacement is rough with that max HP 10:20 You suddenly yearn for Cleveland. 10:21 Magic trap effect. 10:21 if you raise your base form HP, it's lost when you poly? 10:21 monster form and player form HP are independent 10:21 shpingrlde: Polyself wasn't directly the reason, only indirectly in that it didn't allow me to exercise my constitution 10:21 which I realized far too late 10:21 ah 10:21 I had like 9 10:22 oslt 10:22 I'm surprised you never quaffed blessed healypots or nurse danced 10:22 hmm, this actually implies a lot about how stat exercise contributes to game balance 10:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 10:22 I would have if I realized how crappy my max HP was before I started pestering the wizard :P 10:23 ais523: there is a reason I want to make constitution/wisdom changes apply their max HP/max Pw modifiers retroactively 10:24 dnh, the other Best Nethack, does it :D 10:24 yes, I suggested it 10:24 it made things so much nicer 10:24 ugh, is time.gov down? 10:24 !pom 10:24 shpingrlde: The moon is new for 4 more days. 10:24 ais523: no 10:25 trying to build, but getting a timestamp conflict because my laptop and nethack4.org disagree as to what time it is 10:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:25 :25 10:25 major reason I haven't done it in FIQHack is that I'm pondering the best way to do it codewise 10:25 OK, at least my laptop agrees with shpingrlde's computer 10:26 I think what I will do is to add a seperate "last attributes" thingy, to ensure that in no circumstances is there a hobug 10:26 and try to refresh it appropriately, and whenever it isn't, impossible + do it at endturn 10:26 hmm, nethack4.org isn't running any sort of NTP, no wonder it drifted 10:26 either that 10:26 or make maxhp(foo) 10:27 and make the actual "max hp" fields be pre-stat modifiers 10:28 18 Nov 19:27:50 ntpdate[23322]: step time server 163.172.25.19 offset 63.722420 sec 10:28 OK, nobody do anything time-sensitive on nethack4.org for 63.7 seconds :-P 10:28 * FIQ starts and quits a lot of games 10:28 lmao 10:29 ais523: isn't there applications or similar to allow a gradual correction for stuff like this? 10:29 actually now I'm really curious as to whether that time is logged using the old time base or the new one? 10:29 FIQ: yes, it's ntpdate 10:29 but if it detects the clock is really badly wrong it does the adjustment all at once by default 10:29 ah 10:29 the gradual correction is for if it's almost right 10:29 right 10:29 you can ask it to do a gradual correction even for a badly wrong clock but it takes ages 10:30 I'm not sure if I would regard a minute as badly wrong 10:30 it is on computer timescales 10:32 ais523: I've been using Interhack for 3.6.0 devnull to get my statuscolors back 10:32 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1410 points, 2843 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 10:32 it has some... interesting features 10:32 heh 10:33 worked much better for 3.6.0 than I thought it would do, at least 10:33 I didn't realise there /was/ a 3.6 version of interhack 10:33 there isn't 10:33 I am using the 3.4.3 one 10:33 it works fine 10:33 right 10:33 interhack 1 is mostly regex-based 10:33 right 10:33 was there an interhack 2 10:33 so it's likely to be fairly tolerant of version changes 10:33 yes, also an interhack 3, but neither got very far 10:33 I know interhack 3 wanted to wait for TAEB to be done 10:34 he's using the idea I had for JNH - use the interhack UI for shitty-ui variants of nethack, even if it's not a perfect fit. except, like always, he's got it working well whereas I had trouble and gave up :D 10:34 I know the interhack I use has at least some state 10:34 because it has stuff like #view 1 10:34 allthough I had to tinker with several of the plugins to allow for altmeta to work properly 10:34 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 19625 points, T:3786, killed by a hezrou of Moloch 10:35 (it didn't like the fact that several plugins did \e#name) 10:35 !who 10:35 shpingrlde: Jendic [15dn36] Eleven [15dn36] jonathanhanes [15dn36] Leggman [15dn36] arnibald [15dn36] hothraxxa [15dn36] eitbo [15dn36] porkman [13dnh] porkmantwo [13dnh] Nobbs [06nh4] 10:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:42 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 72615 points, 5568 turns, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge on hardfought 10:42 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 753 points, 1340 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 10:44 shpingrlde: did you at least get Interhack running? 10:45 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45 I mean it's already "running" on my old computer 10:45 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! spontiff completed the Joust challenge. 10:45 I guess since it was pretty easy to set up I should try it on here 10:45 everything's harder on debian tho 10:45 http://sprunge.us/WTCU 10:46 QUIT: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 31158 points, 17584 turns, quit on hdf-eu 10:46 there's only 13 days left of bad-nethack and then I can go back to fh/4k/dyna/dnh 10:50 if you don't like it, there's no obligation to play it 10:53 gotta get them points! 10:54 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 69 points, 301 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 10:55 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 5579 points, 2785 turns, killed by a gargoyle on hdf-eu 11:00 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 6194 points, 9237 turns, killed by a bolt of cold, while taking off clothes on hardfought 11:00 you shouldn't take your clothes off when it's cold! 11:10 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1811 11:12 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:12 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 11:13 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:18 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 19215 points, 8929 turns, killed by a vampire lord on hdf-eu 11:19 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 266 points, 299 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 11:21 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1350 points, 2752 turns, killed by an imp, while praying on hdf-eu 11:21 -!- joemaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:22 -!- raisse\splat is now known as to 11:22 -!- to is now known as raisse\splat 11:25 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 234 points, 718 turns, killed by an arrow on hdf-eu 11:25 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 11:26 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7 points, 173 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 11:32 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 4466 points, T:2303, quit 11:37 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 506 points, 1350 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hdf-eu 11:37 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37 -!- elenmirie\splat has joined #hardfought 11:40 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:42 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 4110 points, T:701, killed by a tengu 11:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 184 points, 387 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-eu 11:42 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 11:45 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 60 points, 189 turns, killed by an electric shock on hdf-eu 11:45 ais523: how would a config UI regarding items look like? 11:46 basically it would be nice to be able eto configure stuff like preferred inventory letters, potential special color, autopickup, from an item list 11:46 but how would it make the most sense to have the UI? 11:48 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 45 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 11:48 FIQ: basically the \ menu but with filters for things like blessedness 11:48 and extra entries for things like "unidentified potion" 11:49 right 11:49 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! k2 completed the Waldo challenge. 11:49 that'd be by far the most convenient for quick tweaks to autopickup rules in-game 11:49 so like dcss 11:49 but how would it look like to be configured from outside the game? 11:49 and would also be good for initial configuration 11:49 outside the game, all items show 11:49 as if you'd maxed out formal IDs 11:49 (but there are entries for unidentified entries anyway) 11:49 so something like 11:49 "customize items" 11:49 shpingrlde: it was inspired by DCSS, but DCSS's \ menu is a bit primitive 11:50 -> menu with 100% discovery list 11:50 yep 11:50 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:899 11:50 ais523: but how would you configure autopickup exceptions? 11:50 the vast majority of those are just 11:50 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1512 points, 3893 turns, killed by a gray ooze, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 11:50 "pick up this item type, but not this other one" 11:50 but there's valid excuses for exceptions 11:51 for example, maybe I don't want to pickup empty lamps 11:51 FIQ: "discharged" was one of the filters I was planning 11:51 sorry for not giving much detail, I had this all worked out a while back but lost the file somehow 11:51 nice 11:51 oh well 11:51 I have "spellbook of" in my autopickup exceptions to avoid picking up known spellbooks 11:52 ooh, no I didn't 11:52 means I have to read a plain spellbook to trigger "spellbook of blank paper" 11:52 it's in an obscure git branch 11:52 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3563 points, 4743 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 11:52 raisse\splat proves a valid case too 11:52 (one I haven't actually considered myself, I should perhaps add that to my NH3 config) 11:52 but there is a simple solution 11:53 pickup: unidentified/all/none 11:53 or rather 11:53 the branch itself was an aborted attempt at stash search 11:53 flip autopickup on unidentified spellbooks 11:53 which FIQhack now has a different way 11:53 and then disable autopickup on all known ones 11:53 FIQ: look at doc/itemrules.txt on the itemknowledge branch (which I just pushed to the NH4 repo so that you could look at it) 11:53 how did you do it, out of curiousity? 11:53 ok, I will look 11:54 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 11256 points, 6254 turns, killed by a touch of death on hdf-eu 11:54 I didn't, it's unfinished 11:54 but it looks from the code like I was planning a "knowledge" chain 11:55 FIQHack does that too 11:55 level->memobjlist 11:55 [12slex] dolores (Cam Ang Fem Cha), 5210 points, T:3721, killed by a monster (horn horse), while helpless 11:56 and they refer to the main object, if it still exists (and the main object refers to the memory, to easily be able to reference each other) 11:56 looks like I only got as far as categorising weapons (and maybe not even all the weapons)? 11:57 ais523: how can I *truly* check all branches btw? 11:57 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 11:57 [589][fiq@fiq-desktop ~/nethack4ais]$ git branch -v 11:57 * master cb7da80a Fix issues blocking the build 11:57 nitrohack 09e082d0 Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/DanielT/NitroHack 11:57 I tried itemknowledge which worked fine 11:58 but those were the only 2 listed when I tried to check taht 11:58 FIQ: itemknowledge wasn't public so you had no way to check it before I made it public a couple of minutes ago 11:58 (i.e. wasn't actually pushed to the nethack4.org server) 11:58 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 482 points, 772 turns, killed by a mind flayer on hardfought 11:59 yeah I get that 11:59 but I pulled beforehand 11:59 and it said "new branch itemknowledge" 11:59 but git branch -v 11:59 you need to do "git remote update" 11:59 didn't actually list it 11:59 to get a full local copy of remote brancehs 11:59 *branches 11:59 hmm 11:59 I am still only seeing 3 branches (itemknowledge now as well since I checked that out) 11:59 and I think there is more than those (channelization...?) 12:00 no, I deleted channelization earlier today because it's now fully merged into master 12:00 that said, there should be other branches there 12:01 ah 12:01 -r 12:01 does the trick 12:01 it lists all of them 12:02 I am such a moron 12:02 almost got myself splatted twice so far today 12:02 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 304 points, 406 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 12:02 hmm 12:02 every single line almost has the exact same amount of characters in this document 12:03 huh, didn't realize that it took until 3.1.2 before pickup_types 12:04 can't let your guard down for a minute with this game, I love it! 12:06 FIQ: so long as your lines are fairly wide, it's not that hard to do 12:06 sometimes I do it when I'm bored or to show off 12:06 Jendic agreed! 12:06 I'd forgotten I'd done it in that file but it's fairly obvious just by looking at it 12:10 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:12 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 560 points, 1641 turns, killed by a purple worm on hardfought 12:12 ais523: ok so it is somewhat obvious as to how to "parse" the rules for the hiearchy in general 12:12 it is less obvious how to handle the "special" categories 12:12 BUC, dangerous, elven, etc 12:13 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 12:15 FIQ: the plan was to have a filter 12:15 that showed only those entries, + an ability to set them all at once 12:15 I never wrote a parser, the format of that was invented on the fly 12:16 (this sort of thing is why I don't normally make half-started code public, it can be hard to understand what I was aiming for sometimes) 12:17 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1466 points, 2069 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 12:19 ok 12:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2270 points, 2956 turns, killed by an iron piercer on hardfought 12:35 DIED: eitkrog (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2412 points, 1593 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 12:36 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1959 points, 2935 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 12:37 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3058 points, 3067 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-eu 12:41 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 230 points, 710 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping on hardfought 12:49 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 21442 points, T:8283, killed by a hell hound pup 12:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:01 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:46973 13:04 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 587 points, 1187 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 13:15 QUIT: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1812 points, 3573 turns, quit on hardfought 13:30 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- Sluggoman has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:36 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1324 points, 4870 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 13:38 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:39 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 13:50 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 13:52 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 13:56 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 7814 points, 4640 turns, killed by a watch captain, while helpless on hardfought 13:59 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:48681 14:12 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 25979 points, 7191 turns, killed by a sasquatch, while getting stoned on hdf-eu 14:18 we're over 7500 games played now :P 14:33 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 228 points, T:286, killed by a hobbit 14:34 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 7434 points, 5610 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 14:34 I killed a shopkeeper for their many scrolls and then went back to where I id'd my polywand and read this message: 14:34 You read: "?ney say tha k?llirg ? sh?pkeeper br?ngs bad |uck.". 14:35 just luck, I think 14:35 maybe that was the bad luck in question? 14:35 the fact that you got that specific engraving 14:43 yeah, it's just a funny coincidence, especially because the message was generated before I went and killed the shk 14:44 but, the luck penalty doesn't apply to chaotics :o) 14:44 -!- fatty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:48 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:49 reminds me of when I got "They say that a wand of polymorph will change your game" from e-testing poly once 14:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:49 hi Chris_ANG 14:50 hello 14:50 Hello Chris_ANG, Welcome to #hardfought 14:50 Chris_ANG: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-15 04:52 EST: I've managed to make the dungeon have more than 127 levels in slex. There might still be bugs, but saving and loading works alright, as does visiting levels with internal indexes >127. https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/edc145acc3f7a7a237898d1fdd4be1e7b3368c43 - maybe this is 14:50 interesting for dnethack as well? 14:50 ugh, I got orctown again 14:50 whenever I get orctown 14:50 I #quit 14:50 it's faster 14:50 haha 14:50 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1480 14:50 on a previous run I asked the question, if I'm an orc, will orctown be peaceful? turns out not :( 14:51 hardly seems fair 14:51 I'm opposed to orctown but doubt I can do much about it 14:51 maybe if we had a petition 14:51 fortunately I'm quite bashy with my blessed +2 mattock and I have AC:0 14:52 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 29 points, 133 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 14:52 so I think I might be able to handle it, as long as I don't get an orc captain with a wand of fire again 14:52 ais523: keep in mind that while the community seems to generally agree 14:52 DT members, including active ones in here, doesn't 14:53 (bhaak and paxed) 14:53 What's the main problem with orctown? Would it be ok if orctown guaranteed a mines-end variant with shopkeepers? 14:53 the devteam is split, but unfortunately I may well be the only person on the community's side of the split 14:54 Chris_ANG: intersting, that's the same idea I've had to "fix" orctown 14:54 (I've heard that solution floated before, and if- 14:54 Chris_ANG: basically that it replaces a level with a guaranteed chance to restock and some interesting terrain (seriously, people die in 3.4.3 Minetown way more often than you'd expect), with a level that's just another combat level and somewhat more difficult than normal 14:54 ah 14:54 Yup :) 14:54 probably by me then :) 14:54 it has some guaranteed resources, but considerably future 14:54 -if I add orctown to dnethack, that seems like a good way to do it 14:55 *considerably fewer 14:55 Chris_ANG: what I was considering was 14:55 add orctown 14:55 try to avoid being lynched 14:55 in general I'm a proponent of special levels that can act as milestones 14:55 add a special minesend with "refugees" or whatever that set up shop, including an aligned priest (but no temple) 14:55 Minetown can, Orctown can't really 14:56 and have the aligned priest ask you to slay all the orcs in minetown 14:56 FIQ: aligned priest behaviour outside temples is bizarre 14:56 you'd need to change it 14:56 and if you do this successfully, he/she hands you the luckstone and guranteed free protection 14:56 (see: vanilla Slash'EM's Lawful Quest, which is probably the most slexy thing in vanilla Slash'EM) 14:56 lol. I never thought I would hear "vanilla slash'em" in the same sentence 14:57 Porkman: it's a really useful term to have when variants of variants are common 14:57 I'm not sure if this idea is crazy or not 14:57 but I like it personally 14:57 well 14:57 "vanilla NH4" can be used on occasion too 14:57 any level with an increased challenge ought to give some sort of increased reward 14:57 FIQ: it's more tolerable than the vanilla method but I suspect the depths are wrong 14:57 as you're basically forcing players to the deep mines earlier than they're ready, that's much more dangerous 14:57 Dnethack has a particularly hard version of Mine's endyou can get (orc mine's end) 14:57 ais523: the intention was to try to balance the less reward of minetown with a larger reward later 14:58 yes, I understand 14:58 I guess I think of it this way: NetHack's a high-headroom game, whereas random challenge spikes (especially early-game) are more something that you'd expect in a low-headroom game because they force you to have a particularly good early start 14:58 ais523: getting down to the level would be easy (find a pickaxe), but you'd still have to need to get back 14:59 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:59 if you happen to want to play a character that has a hard start, and then get orctown, what are you meant to do? other than die 14:59 or compromise your principles 14:59 come to think of it, mandatory risk/reward tradeoffs are probably an antipattern 14:59 also, speaking of mines 14:59 f + 2 blessed scrolls of enchant weapon named B/C 14:59 --- awesome 14:59 FIQHack gurantees lit upper mines, dark lower mines 15:00 (skippable tradeoffs have different properties) 15:00 I know 2 people who has expressed disagreements about this 15:00 now I can have a very plus enchanted dwarvish mattock 15:00 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1116 points, 1494 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 15:00 so I'm not sure if it is a good idea or not 15:00 I'd prefer to make it more gradual 15:00 something I've considered as an alternative is, always dark mines except for the levels next to minetown 15:00 I also think having a dark level above Minetown is potentially interesting, but then I basically never play human 15:01 you saw my dungeon overhaul suggestion, right? where levels aren't all-lit or all-dark, deeper levels are darker 15:01 yeah 15:01 by using a sessile monster which emits light IIRC 15:01 yes, and with a slight chance of poison res from its corpse, thus tempting players to kill it 15:01 (and which grants poison res) 15:01 eh, I forgot about the stupid race thing now I have juiblex in orctown 15:02 aoei\splat: die to it, get a new death 15:02 the YASI version of this is lighting the levels entirely with the candlegnomes 15:02 which would be fun flavourwise but a huge mess logistically 15:02 ais523: it's an interesting approach 15:02 come to think of it, mandatory risk/reward tradeoffs are probably an antipattern <-- can you expound on this a bit? 15:02 the sessile thing I mean 15:02 btw, 3.6.0 gnomes sometimes light their candles 15:03 I'm not sure on how it works, I didn't read the source 15:03 not sure how I feel about it 15:03 aosdict: so suppose you reach a particular point in the game, your character might be stronger than average, they might be weaker on average 15:03 also, random YANI: large contiguous random regions in the mines can generate lit 15:03 it irritates me I don't want htem using up the candles 15:03 if the level is easy and unrewarding, both characters survive, neither become much stronger 15:03 so the level is *partially* lit 15:03 I guess it was adopted from ais523's NH4 15:03 if it's hard and unrewarding, the strong character survives and gets even stronger, the weak character just dies 15:03 ais523: did you see my question yesterday about why null needs to be enabled to make animations work? 15:04 more candles in mines and gnomes use them for light if the level is dark 15:04 you're the terminal guy, I don't know :D 15:04 FIQ: I was part of the discussion but don't know the answer 15:04 also, AceHack has gnomes using candles 15:04 but NH4 doesn't because AceHack showed that having a large number of partially used candles of different lengths is annoying 15:05 so I reverted the bit of the commit that has the gnomes actually use them 15:05 YASI: allow the candles to stack, and keep track of the individual durations 15:05 ais523, ah ok I was thinking acehack 15:05 same same 15:06 FIQ: you know the ideas that slex has in terms of gameplay? that's on a similar level in terms of internals :-D 15:06 hahah 15:06 ais523: also, why gnomes? shouldn't dwarves be the ones with candles? 15:06 I physically facepalmed and now my face is smarting a bit 15:06 I think gnomes can see in the dark? 15:06 so can dwarves 15:06 FIQ: pretty sure ais supported that idea 15:06 or maybe it was jonadab 15:07 w - a blessed +4 dwarvish mattock (weapon in hands) 15:07 aw yeah 15:07 in D&D, though, they can only see in black and white in the dark and need a light source for colour vision 15:07 which seems helpful when mining 15:07 and in NetHack they can see monsters in the dark but not walls 15:07 again, being able to see a wall seems helpful when mining 15:07 [13dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 atma weapon", on T:1867 15:07 anyway, I picked gnomes purely because it's the gnomish mines 15:07 ah 15:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:07 so they get to get special treatment 15:08 according to jonadab, I think, gnomes are actually earth spirits, whereas dwarves just like being underground. 15:08 (and the reason why it's the gnomish mines is, I think, because the other playable races had mines in different roguelikes) 15:08 one thing I was considering for differentiation re@gnomes and dwarves 15:08 orcish mines in DCSS (would have been LDC at the time) 15:08 was that both can see better in the dark 15:08 ADOM has a playable race mines too, I forget which 15:08 but dwarves can sense gold in walls 15:09 I don't think there's a major roguelike with elven mines? but that wouldn't make much flavour sense 15:09 droven mines? 15:09 ADOM has mines? hmm 15:09 aosdict: those would be really deep, I suspect 15:09 I'm trying to recall it now but not seeing anything 15:09 however, it has a dwarftown 15:09 which is analogous to NetHack's minetown 15:10 FIQ: I had the idea that gnomes have intrinsic xray radius 3 detection of gold and gems 15:10 but not in any kind of mines 15:10 no mines in ADOM, I just looked it up 15:10 right, then I remember it right 15:10 aosdict: I think monster dwarves can sense gold 15:10 maybe dwarves should have a larger radius but not detect gems? 15:10 so player ones should be able to too 15:12 ASCENDED: noims (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2684642 points, 80188 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/noims/dn36/dumplog/1510491032.dn36.txt 15:13 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 162 points, 169 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 15:13 TROPHY: noims now holds the Highest Scored Ranger 15:13 TROPHY: noims just earned the Double Top 15:13 ...That's a lot of orc captains in Orctown. 15:15 I can see an argument for just marking all the gold on a level as soon as a dwarf enters it 15:15 it'd encourage players to think greedy without actually really changing anything 15:16 obsoleting scrolls of gold detection, I guess, but that's minor 15:16 but even gold in monster inventories? or just free gold? 15:16 xorns can sense monsters with gold in their inventory 15:17 autoadjust is great 15:17 NH4 has a ton of random things like that 15:17 one major interhack feature I will miss once I go back to non-3.6.0 15:18 I was going to say, which variant has that, and what's the UI like? 15:18 NH4 has a very subtle autoadjust that steers items away from dangerous letters 15:18 the UI is "press tab to apply it" :P 15:18 yeah 15:18 but not a blatant autoadjust that would need configuration 15:19 if I were to make the item customization thingy 15:19 I would add a "preferred letter" option 15:21 yes, that would be a good way to do it 15:21 what would be the UI if there already was an item on that letter? 15:21 not sure if I should override it or not 15:22 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! noims accepted the Joust challenge. 15:23 Possible dnethack orctown configuration: 15:24 General shopkeeper and Izchak move shop to mine's end, 15:24 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 436 points, 707 turns, killed by using a magical horn on herself on hdf-eu 15:24 Tool shopkeeper and food shopkeeper are dead, and their shops' inventories are scattered around the level, 15:24 Aligned priest is dead, and the altar is converted to Moloch. 15:25 ...why is Anhur a special case in devnull unique deaths 15:25 (dNethack has a second temple on the neutral branch level, so characters can still buy protection fairly high up in the dungeon) 15:25 ok so I think arc is the best startscum role for this purpose 15:25 can get to minetown faster than everyone else 15:26 for magic lamps 15:26 also, fancy wish menu in interhack 15:26 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2604 points, 2315 turns, killed by a jaguar on hardfought 15:27 ais523: can I reset a RNG in some way? 15:27 I want to be able to re-roll starting inventories while keeping the integrity of everything else 15:27 maybe I should just create a seperate RNG for starting inventory? 15:28 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2841 points, 7061 turns, killed by a rabid rat on altorg 15:29 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 192 points, 162 turns, killed by a dart on hdf-eu 15:32 woo, fountain wish 15:33 FIQ, nice one 15:33 what you gonna get 15:33 sDSM? 15:33 no 15:33 something much better 15:33 Cursed figurine of something nasty? 15:34 FIQ: there's currently no API for resetting an RNG but it'd be easy enough to add one 15:34 ASCENDED: Tariru (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1839708 points, 36895 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1511017344.dn36.txt 15:34 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 173 points, 714 turns, poisoned by a rotten lump of royal jelly on hdf-eu 15:34 ASCENDED: oh6 (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3506958 points, 72142 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/dn36/dumplog/1510503157.dn36.txt 15:34 grayswandir? You are blasted by Grayswandir's power! You die... 15:34 however, creating a separate RNG is probably a better optoin 15:34 also, two simultaneous ascensions? how often does that happen? 15:34 jonadab: no, that's better done with wizard revgeno 15:34 Royal jelly can rot? 15:34 and FIQ somehow managed to die in between, which is a good thing given that it's a unique deaths attempt 15:34 jonadab: that's the cursed message 15:34 Ah. 15:34 ais523: and a new death for once! 15:35 I tried to wish for trice egg earlier 15:35 TROPHY: oh6 now holds the Highest Scored Ranger 15:35 but got a "while turning to stone" screwing everything up 15:35 strangely, Fatty didn't get one in his similar death 15:35 not sure why 15:35 I watched his dumplog 15:35 he did the same thing 15:35 so I don't really get the difference 15:36 3.6.0 while-helpless bug? 15:36 although that might possible be fixed for d/n/t 15:36 while-helpless bug? 15:36 vanilla 3.6.0 produces some really weird death messages when people die while helpless 15:36 So did 3.4.3 15:36 normally with the wrong number of ", while " in the ending 15:36 I did manage to get a while helpless death by sheer accident earlier 15:36 Ah. 15:36 Not like that. 15:36 jonadab: vanilla 3.4.3 adds ", while helpless", unconditionally 15:37 but it didn't count because of the message wording 15:37 ais523: Oh, right, I was thinking of delayed instadeaths. 15:37 although most people on IRC don't know this because NAO had its own code for that 15:37 84 deaths 15:37 whereas in 3.6.0 sometimes you get multiple lines worth of varying ", while" reasons 15:37 5 more until I'm 1st, unless Fatty get some more deaths 15:40 bah, rust monster ruined my shoes 15:40 this is probably the first time I use #untrap seriousl 15:40 y 15:40 so that I can find chest traps 15:40 and then get my HP to 1 15:40 before setting them off 15:41 DIED: jmcunx (Cav-Gno-Mal-Neu), 254 points, 1174 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 15:41 hm 15:41 apparently I haven't die to a shopkeeper yet 15:41 need to sort that out later 15:42 hm, found a bones piles with some potentially good stuff but I have no inventory space :-( 15:44 where are you playing? 15:47 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 15:47 eu.hardfought 15:48 wow there's some awesome loot in there 15:50 =oPC, speed boots, CoMR, =oTC, /oCancel, /olightning, lots of stuff... 15:50 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1686 points, 2833 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow on hardfought 15:51 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 588 points, 1463 turns, killed by a burning book on hdf-eu 15:53 aoei\splat: my bones? 15:53 You read: "deki, killed by a horse". There are many objects here. 15:53 ah 15:53 guess not 15:53 :) 15:53 pretty good wizbones though 15:53 -!- Guest65865 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:55 huh, wiki says uncursed enchant armor should uncurse the armor if it's cursed, but my speed boots are still cursed 16:01 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 305 points, 1100 turns, killed by a sewer rat on altorg 16:02 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:05 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 544 points, 1102 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 16:07 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2408 points, 3402 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 16:10 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 128 points, 731 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 16:12 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 16:13 umm 16:13 hm 16:13 this looks like a potential bug 16:13 that reminds me of a dNetHack bug 16:21 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 978 points, 1355 turns, killed by colliding with the ceiling on hdf-eu 16:21 we're one ascension away from 100 total for the tournament 16:22 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 16:35 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:36 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 210 points, 634 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 16:37 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 153 points, 182 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu 16:37 ASCENDED: jonathanhanes (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 1639304 points, 30115 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dn36/dumplog/1510991183.dn36.txt 16:38 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! aoei completed the Grue challenge. 16:38 finally finished the bloody grue challenge 16:39 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 20 points, 108 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-eu 16:39 TROPHY: jonathanhanes just earned the Double Top 16:43 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Law), 518 points, 589 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt on hdf-eu 16:45 oh 16:46 you need poison resistance for the one I wanted 16:46 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 191 points, 412 turns, killed by contaminated water on hdf-eu 16:46 at least this one was also new 16:46 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 348 points, 2742 turns, killed by a bat on hardfought 16:50 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 16:50 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 16:51 ais523: why is it that sometimes in 3.6 it will suddenly ask you again for a difficult spellbook if you're interrupted, and if you answer "no" and then read it again, it will go through? 16:51 not sure what the bug here is 16:54 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 255 points, 617 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal, while praying on hdf-eu 16:57 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 11 points, 163 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 16:58 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 100 points, 70 turns, killed by a kobold on hdf-eu 17:05 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 210 points, 650 turns, killed by Ms. Y-Fenni, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 17:06 TROPHY: FIQ now holds the Most Unique Deaths 17:13 -!- fatty has joined #hardfought 17:14 hi fatty 17:15 hi 17:15 Hello fatty, Welcome to #hardfought 17:15 it's getting to that point where i know i should go to bed, but I'm just enjoying this run so damn much 17:15 looks like we got a good competition going! 17:15 :) 17:15 would be pretty funny if I YASD 17:15 how does it feel having the 2nd most unique deahts ;) 17:16 i don't care much for it :) 17:17 DIED: aoei (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 227192 points, 4924 turns, splatted 17:18 should be DIED: aoei (Orc-Bar-Fem-Cha), 0 points, splatted to a trivial monster, while not paying attention 17:18 Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha 17:18 but yeah 17:18 oh right 17:18 also I thought Bandit was rogue... 17:20 xl9 Rogue would be a Rogue, then at xl10 graduates to Pilferer and Robber when quest ready 17:20 ah 17:20 you'd think rogues would be the one with a bandit rank 17:20 it would make sense 17:20 too much sense for NetHack 17:21 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 8 turns, choked on a deadly slime mold on hardfought 17:21 soon I'll upgrade to Brigand 17:22 heh, interhack also procs when watching others 17:22 Aoei: Bar Orc Fem Cha St:18/01 Dx:17 Co:18 In:7 Wi:9 Ch:6 S:227 17:22 Dlvl:6 $:4721 HP:88(88) Pw:20(20) AC:-8 Xp:9n938 T:4945 17:25 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 11 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 17:30 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 23 points, 11 turns, choked on an orange on hardfought 17:33 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 12 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hardfought 17:34 TROPHY: fatty now holds the Most Unique Deaths 17:34 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:35 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 16 points, 12 turns, choked on a food ration on hardfought 17:35 FIQ, what was that you were saying? 17:36 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 62 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 17:36 2pfff 17:36 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 8 turns, choked on a tripe ration on hardfought 17:37 ahhh, back in the lead feels nice 17:38 go go fatty 17:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 532 points, 1195 turns, killed by an unrefrigerated sip of juice on hdf-eu 17:42 there, now I don't need to play orcs anymore 17:42 for now 17:46 Aoei the Brigand awwwh yeah 17:46 Im a BRIGAND 17:49 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 397 points, 761 turns, choked on a clove of garlic on hdf-eu 17:49 that's my last choke except for the knife one which is trickier 17:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 8 points, 86 turns, killed by a water elemental, while vomiting on hdf-eu 17:53 tell me about it 17:53 whoops, chat moved on me 17:54 just pretend I never said anything 17:54 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 17:54 jackal corpse was a food ration 17:54 lol 17:55 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 339 points, 596 turns, choked on a food ration on hdf-eu 17:58 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 280 points, 432 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 17:58 damn it, stupid Set gave me Cleaver 17:59 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 39469 points, 13822 turns, killed by a quasit, while praying on hdf-eu 17:59 I have a feeling my blessed rustproof +6 mattock is still better 18:02 -!- Noims has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:06 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:06 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1151 points, 2592 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 18:07 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 18:10 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1009 points, 1271 turns, killed by a rock mole on hdf-eu 18:13 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 5055 points, 3974 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 18:15 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 5 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 18:15 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 18:18 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 88 points, 598 turns, killed by kicking a wall on hdf-eu 18:18 -!- Kontroller\unfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:19 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 100 points, 547 turns, quit while already on Charon's boat on hardfought 18:19 afk slepep 18:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 18:24 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 311 points, 949 turns, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 18:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 18:27 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 212 points, 1026 turns, killed by Mr. Ossipewsk, the shopkeeper on hardfought 18:30 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 103 points, 28 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hardfought 18:39 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 18:40 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! k2 accepted the Joust challenge. 18:41 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 478 points, 1542 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 18:42 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:44 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 18:48 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! k2 completed the Joust challenge. 18:51 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7608 points, 7657 turns, killed by a mumak on altorg 18:51 DIED: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 40 points, 84 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 18:52 DIED: shadowcat (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 55 points, 319 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 18:52 DIED: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 44 points, 85 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 18:53 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1201 points, 1676 turns, killed by wedging into a narrow crevice, while moving through the air on hardfought 18:54 fatty, I see you found a new way to die 18:59 DIED: jonathanhanes (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 823 points, 695 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while helpless on hardfought 19:01 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 327898 points, 34770 turns, drowned in a moat on hardfought 19:07 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! k2 accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 19:10 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:11 DIED: jmcunx (Cav-Gno-Mal-Neu), 302 points, 1186 turns, killed by a gecko on hardfought 19:26 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 19:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2968 points, 887 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hdf-au 20:08 [10fh] KickyMcAssingtn (Kni Hum Mal Law), 13873 points, T:1141, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:18 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 651 points, 757 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-au 20:20 -!- notzmv has left #hardfought 20:21 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:24 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 122 points, 239 turns, killed by an iron ball collision on hardfought 20:25 bug_sniper, which way was that? 20:30 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20:34 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 909 points, 2628 turns, killed by a hill orc on altorg 20:40 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 809 points, 1070 turns, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs on hardfought 20:46 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 919 points, 941 turns, killed by a water moccasin, while praying on hardfought 20:51 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 570 points, 887 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 20:55 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 750 points, 1820 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 21:10 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1334 points, 1869 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 21:15 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 888 points, 2813 turns, killed by a paper golem on altorg 21:22 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 816 points, 1470 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 21:28 faty, wedged yourself in a narrow crevice 21:30 fatty 21:30 that or you justl like levitation 21:42 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1419 points, 2135 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 21:53 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 12395 points, 1414 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hdf-au 21:58 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Law), 654278 points, 40048 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1510973737.dn36.txt 22:03 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 22:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 22:07 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1703 points, 3051 turns, killed by a giant ant on altorg 22:20 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:23 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 22:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 22:24 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1492692 points, 67871 turns, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster on hdf-eu 22:24 !lastgae 22:25 !lastgame 22:25 raisse\splat: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KickyMcAssingtn/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-19%2004%3A08%3A43%2C%20KickyMcAssingtn-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt 22:25 pff 22:25 !lastgame Raise 22:25 raisse\splat: No last game for Raise 22:25 !lastgame Raisse 22:25 raisse\splat: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nhdev/dumplog/1509463788.nhdev.txt 22:25 hm, that's not the one I want 22:27 &lastgame 22:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/dn36/dumplog/1510986764.dn36.txt 22:27 thank you! 22:27 welcome! 22:35 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 22:46 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 22:47 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 22:48 -!- Sluggoman has quit [] 22:50 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1997 points, 3383 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hdf-eu 23:00 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 11148 points, 9277 turns, killed by an air elemental on hardfought 23:07 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:12 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 23:19 DIED: sluggoman (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 403 points, 369 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 23:48 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 184 points, 139 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-eu 23:51 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 765 points, 218 turns, killed by an arrow on hdf-eu